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@markaust8982

Жыл бұрын

Sloppy????

If you think it’s sloppy, you’ve clearly never payed attention when listening to any of their albums. There’s an all out chaos to the sound that just works, and it sounds organic, especially on the first two albums. It’s insanity in music form

@austinpage6961

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like any minute shit could go off the rails and I love it 🤘

@prsee5969

10 ай бұрын

Death metal drumming is basically crazy hectic jazz played fast and hard. Any good jazz drummer could make an excellent death metal drummer and vice versa. It’s just the violence knob that needs to be jacked lol

@Hedonite

9 ай бұрын

It is sloppy. And that's why we love him

@grederlaurent

3 ай бұрын

bah non@@Hedonite

@stonytina5177

3 ай бұрын

Some people like it sloppy. And the rest of you should learn to enjoy it too lol

Damn, people saying he's sloppy, I would like to see any of them try to play these songs for 25 years and being able to play them that good.

@chillhopdrumz1862

2 ай бұрын

Whenever someone says that, I just reply with "but the slop is the point.." Its fucking death metal

@Smurfy10285

Ай бұрын

​@chillhopdrumz1862 Just tuned into this comment after randomly hitting play on this video after 3 years.. You're absolutely right.. It's that natural on the scene "slop" that really makes it so good.. The studio version is just editing to make sound as intended but to be able to do these things live is really something else..

@rustynales4597

Ай бұрын

I mean not for George Kolias, Derick Roddy, Or Inferno​@@chillhopdrumz1862

Don't really care if he's "sloppy" here; he earned my respect years ago. He's been playing this fast since before it was even commonplace. It has soul...

@ContaminatedBeef

5 жыл бұрын

For real. None So Vile blew my fucking mind 20 years ago, and got me into extreme metal.

@matdemaz

5 жыл бұрын

Same here! Heard Phobophile on the radio in 2006 and was instantly hooked. I later went and looked up the 1993 demo and Blasphemy Made Flesh, shit was insane, loved how strangely relaxing some of the songs were, like Abigor.

@lifeimitatingdeath3608

4 жыл бұрын

Abigor is THEEE song that got me into Cryptopsy and extreme metal.. Heard it on a compilation demo and was hooked ever since..

@FreshHennessyRecords

3 жыл бұрын

He is the fuckin g.o.a.t.

@MetalNick

3 жыл бұрын

He isn't sloppy though. The album sounds the same. He does slightly offbeat blasts a lot.

I guess no one here in the comments knows of Flo's jazz background. It's so obvious that he's taking a jazz approach to his playing and more importantly the live execution of the songs. To me it's the main reason why he's still an interesting drummer while other speed machine drummers aren't as talked about anymore.

@deanmayberry9713

5 жыл бұрын

This. He's actually improvising a lot of those fills. He's played the song surely millions of times by now and I'm sure he has it memorized. I'm gonna truthfully state that the majority of extreme metal drummers are boring these days. They're robots. You want that? Program a drum machine and it's infallible -- it'll play the same thing every single time perfectly 100% of the time. Jazz and tech death metal (which was clearly highly influenced by jazz) was never about being perfect. I guess now it is, but the fills and improv particularly in a live setting when everyone knows the damn song is what makes drumming INTERESTING even to other drummers. I'm gonna think, "oh shit sick! He just pulled improv!" if I see a drummer do something different live. The singer is allowed to break up the song and shout, "1234" but the drummer can't have those liberties as long as he's still holding it down? That's a bit illogical. A recording where the band is on strict metronome practice and does the same song upwards of thousands of times to get the perfect take is very different. Hell, look at the godfather of prog drumming. The man has the most ridiculous kit ever and completely does improv live which people go crazy for. Flo is a good drummer that's busted his ass and devoted his life to playing the drums, recording, and touring (the world at that). The man can have some fucking fun because frankly he's earned it. Those perfectionist armchair theorists can't play this shit anyways. Constant double bass also gets goddamn boring. It lost the, "oh my God how does anyone do this" a long time ago. A straight 4 gets boring. How many drummers drop their 4 for a fill? A lot do. Extreme metal has brainwashed people to believe that the only way to keep time is via constant double bass which gets really goddamn uninteresting really fast.

@chaosinception7982

3 жыл бұрын

He was absolutely never a jazz player. He got away with playing fast and sloppy back in the day. Drummers are more proficient now. He just needs to clean up his playing a technique. This is a classic song. And he is a cool guy.

@sticktrik

2 жыл бұрын

Da fuck you talking about Jazz player?? You should get off the meth, bro!!!

@frelopermanboy7426

Жыл бұрын

exactly where is the jazz influence in this? Lmfao

People talking smack about Flo.Flo has always been somewhat inconsistent.If you listen to None So Vile you' ll probably hear about 4-5 different snare tones.Same goes with the kicks,it's not exactly a 16th note run always,but that is what's refreshing.He plays like an animal,and there were times that people used to appreciate such performances,for example every single work of Emperor,first albums of Dying Fetus,the list is endless.We 've reached an era where everyone is perfect,digitalized as fuck and the soul is squeezed out of the player in exchange to 100% on the grid tight performances.People don't play like that,most of them don't at least in a live situation so why bother ? We,as players and listeners have made perfect average.How to stand out amongst average perfection ? By being real and honest,just like Flo.

@metaldad1967

6 жыл бұрын

pravused 8

@metaldad1967

6 жыл бұрын

pravused Hell man, I don't practice enough to be good at any level so all I can do is just appreciate the skill.

@jamesmiller6217

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. I just saw him live the other night and I love how he just seems to improvise and play in the moment instead of trying to “perfect” his parts. He’s a beast. Great when I saw him in 1999, great again in 2019.

@TheOriginalUberfetus

5 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmiller6217 I saw Cryptopsy in Toronto. Shit was fucking nuts. I love his style, he has such a rocker/all out style of playing I can really appreciate. Really hits his shit good.

@hardcoreallstar

5 жыл бұрын

@Andrew telling flo mournier to perfect his craft lulz

My favorite Cryptopsy song. Incredibly musically composed drum parts!

@LOU-oo9zx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes i agree, my favorite is Benedictine Convulsions

@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy

3 жыл бұрын

Wait until you hear the album "Kingdom of Downfall" by Parricide.

saw Flo live and at a drum clinic, he gave straight-to-the point advice for drummers, quality of POSTURE and BREATHING is crucial for this genre of music

Flo's a legend. His style is chaotic and it's not pretty but it has inspired countless drummers, myself included. He's worthy of praise.

@deshubaboiboi5961

Жыл бұрын

One of the very best

I'm not sure about all the "he's so sloppy" talk cause I aint no pro drummer but he looks and sounds like he's having fun..badass to me

@behindthen0thing

5 жыл бұрын

He's always been sloppy and he knows it too

@alexsartandmusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@behindthen0thing that's really refreshing to hear after listening to Mike Mangini play, he's fucking Superior Drummer 3 in flesh disguise

@behindthen0thing

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexsartandmusic flo told me himself. he's his own worst critic

@jjandjacks7928

3 жыл бұрын

People always criticize drummers that play faster than normal, same thing came and went with Aaron Kitcher and Dave McGraw.

@vizavramoff2284

3 жыл бұрын

@@behindthen0thing и почему же он неряха?

Sing with me! UUURGH! UUURGH! URGH-URGH-UURGH!!

@felixgarstka

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha 😂

@jasperjenkins7729

5 жыл бұрын

Sing?

@felixgarstka

5 жыл бұрын

I'm still laughing 😂😂😂

@galvinatrium

2 жыл бұрын

You've got the text wrong mate...

@dima.jiharev

2 жыл бұрын

@@galvinatrium You don't say!

Flo has always been a free form death metal drummer. His fills are always so much fun to listen to.

@SlyHikari03

11 ай бұрын

For sure

At 2:10 you can see he realized he hasn't put back the snare strainer

@katyungodly

4 жыл бұрын

Oscar Flores wow great catch

@pavelgavenda427

4 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought when he hit the snare for the first time😂

@michaelsemenov4527

4 жыл бұрын

Why has he put it off first?

@JROscarFlores

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsemenov4527 The snare chain vibes like crazy in between songs. Since the snare is mic, drummers put it off.

@leonardolicciardello5864

3 жыл бұрын

He is using triggers so I don't think he even needs them.

Flo has always been a bit sloppy but it adds to the charm of their sound honestly, it adds a human element. No one is perfect, to this day, Flo is still one of the best. He may not have the best technique but god damn does this man slay, I love his drumming style. I feel like if it was perfect then Cryptopsy wouldn't sound the way they sound.

@Bumbaclot213

2 жыл бұрын

No one is perfect live

@RevulsionMusic

2 жыл бұрын

He obviously lacks warm up here

@williamsmith666

Жыл бұрын

I'll take a somewhat sloppy drummer his chops over any modern death metal drummer with a triggered kit connected to a drum machine.

@tylerchapman9234

Жыл бұрын

Is he still with the band Cryptopsy? Bc I heard some of their new shit with a different singer and didn't care for it.

@tylerchapman9234

Жыл бұрын

@@williamsmith666 you can do that? Make the bass pedals and other shit line up with a drum machine?

His drum fills are sick as shit

the beauty of Brutal Death Metal is that it doesnt have to sound perfect. Room for error adds to the brutality.

So refreshing to see metal being played with the energy of a rock drummer!

@user-zd6jp5lk4f

6 жыл бұрын

Poop Da

@ShadowmakeResistance

6 жыл бұрын

maybe by a swing drummer

@ObscureBeast

6 жыл бұрын

More like extreme polka.

Flo proves that you can play brutal death metal but look buff in Crossfit attire.

He may not be so clean but his drumming was an influence so big on my drumming ten years ago, so thank you Flo, still a beast!

@mauricewanink1452

6 жыл бұрын

Iceforgedstormborn . He is one of the tastiest metal drummers in the scene!

@MrWinterblade

6 жыл бұрын

agree

I thought Flo killed it... god forbid he put up an imperfect single take LIVE performance video and not execute like Scott Hull's drum machine.

@jaredfitzgerald6878

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention probably a little tired too.

@Bumbaclot213

Жыл бұрын

Scott Hull of Pd?

Unbelievable well written drums and expertly performed. He has the most lively playing in metal since forever, and is full of personality and endurance.

All these haters nowadays, I just don't understand why. Flo is a great guy that dedicated his life to extreme music and cryptopsy. So what if it isn't perfect. He has got s o u l and is almost a classic. He is one of the guys that inspired all the young people to go play extreme music. If you think you have something to complain about: just go on and sit there and play that kind of shit yourself.

@BluntInnit

5 жыл бұрын

Who hates on Flo? Inferior drummers that use him as an excuse for their incompetence, that haven't been playing with a band for a generation?

@300kike

5 жыл бұрын

Well there are drummers that are better and cleaner. And in a world where everything is on the internet, there are bound to be comparisons. And if this guy is getting hyped for being great, but there are hundreds of other examples of superior drummers, he will be hated on, naturally. This was a sloppy performance. Faster than me on the pedals, but I can probably compete with him on his cleanliness and hand chops.

@mattbell555

4 жыл бұрын

@@300kike do the same song and we will compare.

@300kike

4 жыл бұрын

@@mattbell555 that's the weakest argument ever. I don't have to sing to know a bad singer. I drum, not this genre so I won't try. I'm not saying this guy sucks, but it's dirty and inconsistent and there are thousands who can do it better

@mattbell555

4 жыл бұрын

@@300kike you said yourself that you could compete with him. So do it !

0:34 He's playing that blastbeat so casually

You can just tell he’s played this a million times.

He played this so well. It might look sloppy to some people, but did it seem like they were lost because of his playing? No. He was right on time for every transition. The kick is probably the main thing people feel is wrong. Just because it's not 16th's. I understand where they're coming from because 16th's feel more correct, but music doesn't work like that. Cryptopsy sounds like this and they're so fucking awesome.

This is what you call realistic. Not all drummers are drum machines. I always loved this because its raw, its what death metal was founded on. Not the most FLAWLESS drumming, but incredibly difficult none the less and impressive. Side note, i've always kinda hated cryptopsy's vocals. It definitely grew on me but still is a lil rough lol

this entire album is classic 🤘🏻

@jonniefast

2 жыл бұрын

anyone hating on the drums in the comments is simply jealous wishing they had even 1% of the skill

That fill at 2:25 it's exquisite

@dl719

4 жыл бұрын

it made me coom

@chusmaestro

4 ай бұрын

I was going to write the same, what a tasty drum fill!

Can you imagine being at family get togethers trying to explain to your cousins who all work in offices that you're the singer in Cryptopsy?

@rottendrums

4 жыл бұрын

yes i can, i met the singer at heavy montreal 2019 and its a super sweet guy.

@jermyhopkisn9654

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, you could just say you're the vocalist in a metal band and most regular people could understand that.

@wes1hoskins

4 жыл бұрын

@@jermyhopkisn9654 well Soundgarden sounds rather sweet compared to Cryptopsy. But that's still easier than Dying Fetus

@wes1hoskins

4 жыл бұрын

"Oh you may have heard our song called Slit Your Guts"

The most versatile metal drummer that I know! Flo your so brutal!!!

I saw them play their album None So Vile during its 20th anniversary world tour in Little Devil in Tilburg. Effing awesome!

Damn! I can't decide if that is a athletic musician or a musical athlete... no matter what, that performance was incredible.

Slit Your Guts was one of my jams back in high school. Good shit

no matter how "sloppy" flo is playing, this man is a huge influence on many other death metal drummers, the drumming on none so vile is absolutely out of this world, just like the album as a whole

I actually like that he doesn't sound like a drum machine :)

Perfect. Timeless. Glad to see it can break down music to the AAL crowd as well as metal is supposed to break down what you assume is supposed to be correct. Hold my metronome lads

Sickest drummer ever, makes it look effortless

Flo might not be the cleanest drummer ever, but I think his creativity in extreme metal makes him stand out. He's made a lot of creative drumming parts to riffs that most would just straight up do some lame double kick backbeat or blasting.

I love this dude. Fucking unreal. He's old and still got it.

He is one of the best drummer on earth. with less equipment, he can create such a harmonic fill in music

Flo pours blood and sweat into his playing and that ordered chaos approach is a blast to watch/listen to

Favorite drummer

I love it👍👍👍👍👍👍

i love this song

Man this song has some amazing lyrics............so deep

hey flo! i have an autograph of you from a gig in germany (alarm club in zwickau) more than 14 jears ago 😎 you're a beast 🤘 thank you for the music... 🍻

If my bands don't have vocalists that sound like primordial beasts, I am not interested. But, man, I fucking love this band, Flo Mounier is a huge inspiration for my drumming and just my absolute hero

That vocals 😂

@Zaynewest

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, I was so excited to see the drum can for this song, and then the vocals kicked in...

@colinboschma

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zaynewest it are dope af vocals tho

@rapturexiii844

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the new guy isnt cutting it 😂 There are plenty of fire deathcore vocalists that shit on bro im sorry

@bultronlagore4932

3 жыл бұрын

@@rapturexiii844 if you knew anything about this band and the song being played you’d understand why he sounds like that. Cryptopsy’ old vocalist sounded like that. If you listen to Cryptopsy’s newer albums the vocals he does are his own which don’t sound like this. Either way this is Death Metal which has DM vocals and if you don’t like it then don’t listen to it kid.

@rapturexiii844

3 жыл бұрын

@@bultronlagore4932 first off im not a kid im a grown ass man. Second off I am just not a fan of the high screams and fry screaming if that applies here. Lord wurm never did that kind shit right? He mainly did gutturals and growls. Correct me if i am wrong and i will sit tf down. I was a little ignorant with what i said. Its just that times are changing. And bro has been doing the same shit for years at this point. I stopped listening to cryptopsy after worship your demons. I thought that album was fantastic

I like how his playing manages to upset some people. I'm a bigger fan now.

Asombroso, que nunca muera el metal!!!

The man behind it all (literally)

Wait a second, why didn't he turn his snares on?

@mars_over

6 жыл бұрын

2:10 better late than never haha

@1retaliation1

6 жыл бұрын

metalforever12345 lol...good catch

@ShreddedShredder0

6 жыл бұрын

What does it mean to "turn on" a snare? Trigger?

@norcoriders99

6 жыл бұрын

there's a "switch" if you will on a snare drum that brings the snare wires to touch the bottom head, which is what makes a snare a snare, otherwise its more or less just a piccolo tom. you can see in most of the video that the snare lever is open.

@ShadowmakeResistance

6 жыл бұрын

e porcamadonn......

Excellent 🎼🇫🇷🎼🤘

Legend!

The Elvin Jones of the extreme metal. He don't need be clean, he's soul and power.

Flo isn't sloppy, he's original, unlike those guava drummers today who don't have substantiality. Plus he's been in the business for a long time and still manages to record different drum lines on each album, the guy is a legend!

Hes just rockin out like its nothin I would be sweating struggling to get through this song. Flo's badass.

Un verdadero especialista en la batería de metal extremo.

Im a guitarist but Flo is my favorite drummer

Fuckin awesome dude!!

my God....how the fuck can this be enjoyable on any level!??

None of these other guys would be here without Flo. Still the most creative

What a beast!!!!!!!

I've been at this gig :)

God the bass gets me every time

BEAST

The best

awesome

that is a beautiful snare sound at the beginning

holy fkn shit this is really good

Vive le Québec et vive Cryptosy !!!

fffukkin intense! droppin a stick at that tempo would be certain death!!

Beast

Wow...😀😘😘😘👍👍👍

damn they invited me to this show when i saw them at the airport!

Master.

This awesome man is something so unique as a death metal drummer with swing and old fashioned feeling, that’s why he is one of the top drummers of all time. Cozy Powell and Bill Ward still reigns supreme at the top of the Metal Mountain, but give him time maybe they will be joined by a Canadian.

Великолепно !

Flo is a drummaster!

Man , that is killer ! I don't care about the sloppiness , but it was awesome !

Damn! Wow

Man I was there and they sounded TIGHT AF

Now that's feel!!

2:03 BEST FUCKING PART!!! I ALWAYS GET GOOSE BUMPS

🥁🥁🥁❤❤❤🤘

There's a difference between a loose feel and sloppiness. This is not sloppiness.

Brutal 😈

This guy is a legend!!!what are we talking about lol

Sick

I expect more from Flo.

musically, this group has a lot of talent. vocal question, I've never understood the choices they have made so far. what is on c is that the voice of this vocalist is simply anything! euuuh euuuuhh euuuuuh leuuuuu leuuuuu heuuuuuu ...

Man, this band used to be so great. Saw em right before lord worm left, now this...

GOD OF DRUMS !!!!

Now I haven’t seen any negative comments on this vid, but there’s no chance that there’s anything wrong with this mans drumming. The writing in cryptopsy and the notation for his fills are insane, not to mention all ghost notes this man pulls off. Allot better than any Chelsea grin, white chapel “ death ( soft ) core “ drummers out there, with their “ brutal “ break downs and what not. Allot more rhythm changes in cryptopsy not everyone can keep up with. This mans one of the greatest drummers alive and you’re just gonna have to live with that

Good drummer☺️!!! Can someone tell me why he uses trigger on snare? Thanks

@gustru2078

6 жыл бұрын

My guess is it's to help play louder at high speeds

@directosmetal4771

6 жыл бұрын

Simon Lussier thanks !! 😉

i dont think he is that sloppy really, cryptopsy is organized chaos, it really is. This "sloppiness" is probably at least partically intentional. Listen to their records the drumming is all the place and wild. It fits the music perfectly.

Speed, technical ability, creativity and endurance. Perfect metal drummer.

Man, that kit looks far to flimsy to take that kind of beating. I kept waiting for something to break, and though nothing broke I did see him adjusting snare spring tension in the middle of a blast beat. Inhuman! Respect to Flo. More respect for the drums for holding together

Flo is has been creative and consistent with his style. As a musician, I didn't even notice he was "sloppy", tf are you people bitching about.

Sloppy well he does play with a loose jazz feel and let’s be honest he is the reason extreme metal drumming is where it’s at today he influenced everyone and he is on of the originators