Crypto, Memes, and Politics with Li Jin
Li Jin joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez. Li is the co-founder of Variant Fund and a prolific writer. This episode dives deep into crypto, web3, memecoins, and the attention economy thesis. They cover the direction of techno-capitalism and its impact on politics, decentralization, and the cultural differences between American and European value systems. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: netsuite.com/zen - now through April 15th NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Adding Ukraine to NATO
(01:30) Peace in Ukraine?
(05:16) On the Attention Economy
(10:16) Meme Coins and Attention Valuation
(14:23) Sponsor: NetSuite | Squad
(17:38) Meme Coins Continued
(23:51) Marxism
(33:05) Exploring the Power Structure and Social Tensions
(34:10) The Managerial Elite and Bourgeoisie Capitalism
(36:12) Perspectives on Europe and Innovation
(44:16) Crypto's Role in Society: Egalitarian or Hierarchical?
(57:35) Attention Economy and Memetics
(59:28) Wrap
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20 minutes in and this feels so disconnected from reality.
One of the most fascinating and refreshing crypto convos I’ve heard. So glad to find your channel and subscribe this morning.
Thank you for calling out Erik for the terrible camera 😂 been racking my brain at how a tech guy starting a tech podcast+video company can have such a bad camera setup.
@iga279
Ай бұрын
that's his style
It's Article 5.
I'm going to call it again. This time is even more present as a topic. You have to read Alexander Bard's books like "The Netocrats" or "Digital Libido". The guy has wrote about this transition to the attention economy in 2000. He called it first Informationalism and evolved into Attentionalism as the death of Capitalism. In the Netocrats he made a proper Marxist type of class analysis of the future society that goes digital
I think we should discuss cheesecake factory more
ad is too long dude
@InkaHacker
2 ай бұрын
It's more an Ad than a pod at this point
Meltem Demirors would add some great commentary on this topic! Would love to see her on the pod soon.
@therecyclingguy256
2 ай бұрын
People that produce nothing....push paper and lies
At least in the US case its not automatic that you declare war. Congress can still decide
I have a crush on one of these 4. Not gonna say who
@hectorjelly
2 ай бұрын
Everyone knows it's Antonio
@navy_tk
2 ай бұрын
@@hectorjellynice try Antonio
@tuckerbugeater
2 ай бұрын
@@navy_tk simp
Dan, you should inform yourself about 1. what innovation is 2. what the actual measures are and then 3. compare the numbers Europe vs US. Btw also look at how much of the US innovation stems from the SV in percentage of GDP and in relation to the invested money. Might be humbling but helps for truth seeking. Cheers from Europe ;)
I also agree that the best thing about Memecoins is that they are useless.
A billion micro-hierarchies, working to make the world a more egalitarian place.
@1ntrcnnctr608
Ай бұрын
aahhhh im abstracctinnggggg, making everything more inefficient 🙃
@wantstocomment7092
Ай бұрын
@@1ntrcnnctr608 look at my markets dawg; I'm going to luxury gay space automated communism.
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@1ntrcnnctr608
Ай бұрын
here u have 10 points. u get 10 more points, if u share it w one of ur internet community members.
This was one of the worst MoZ episodes in a while.
as a mark of your sanity I certainly hope that all of you guys didn't get vaccinated;
Possibly the worst episode. I'm sure these guys are intelligent and successful, hard to tell that from this though.