The AK hand in the beginning is 100% necessary to understand if you play in non-deep games. The exercises in the SPR section of The Postflop Workbook are great for crafting your strategy in similar pots! www.splitsuit.com/postflop-poker-workbook

@ezequielcarranza4104

2 жыл бұрын

Ty so much for this content this definitely help me out.

@pokerandtravel6946

2 жыл бұрын

Why is shoving with AK a good move with SPR=1? You fold all worst and you don’t induce bluffs. Betting 25%pot is superior and checking too (with no intention to folding in any scenario)

@pandaimpress8726

2 жыл бұрын

​@@pokerandtravel6946 If someone calls a $35 preflop bet into a confirmed 1v1 flop, they probably have mid-to-high pocket pairs. Any pocket pair (except deuces) expects to win showdown ~ 75% of the time against all non-suited overcards on this flop (not considering potential straight and flush draws). If the pre-flop caller puts James on AK of hearts, then their expected odds drop from 3:1 for to 2:1 against.

Love the $1/2 vlogs!! Appreciate you.

@thejollyllama1579

2 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Alan!

@collegefraud1308

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

Thank you James for including hands like that J9o, that aren't really as exciting, but are great value for viewers that are here to learn.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Mikolaj! I'm so glad those kinds of conversations and explorations are helping you =)

@NickGrinicide

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. One thing I hate is watching poker vlogs and every hand is like TT+ and low SPR pots where there’s a jam by the turn or river. I like these hero call spots, and bluff catching spots. Just liking hearing thought process and not always just how much value you can extract with the nuts.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

@@NickGrinicide Thanks Grini!

@codycantrell6079

Жыл бұрын

Came to to say exactly this. Thank you.

loving the content mate. really informative for a low-stakes player like myself. love how you really analyze each hand and go through your thoughts.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Visolate!

Wow, this vid is gold. So much actionable knowledge being shared here. Thx!

Great stuff! Keep doing this, love your vlogs!

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Arthur!

I appreciate the clear and concise vlog. It’s very well done, the sound and graphics are great and I’m learning some key nuggets to polish up my game. Thank you very much.

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Teresa!

Discovered your channel recently and really appreciating your explanations of things. The Vlog is a great learning resource too. Looking forward to getting your books soon :)

Another great video. Also nice to see low stakes live play. As the starting level for casino live play, it's nice to see expert analysis in the trenches.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom!

Love this format. Great video, great info. 👍🏻💪🏻

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Eugene!

Another great video with clear advices! Thx. Greetings from Germany once more.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin!

Thanks bro just found you. Love your teaching style clear way of approaching small stakes!

Great analysis! Love it! Big thx! 🙏

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Wiktor!

Really enjoyed the content. Like you said these are the hand the can make a difference. The J9 hand and the heart flush are perfect examples.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Love this video just what I need to see. Thank you

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Alicia!

This is exactly the thing i was looking for. Detailed vlogs at the stakes im playing with gteat explanations.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Franco! You can catch all of my $1/$2 episodes here btw: www.splitsuit.com/1-2-live-cash-poker-vlog

Hell yeah player! Love the fundamentals and emphasis on position w seemingly speculative hands in regards to the importance to vpip/table image and possibly getting paid w your premiums or good plus ev spots

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

🚀🚀🚀

Great video on actual play. More like this!!!

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

Cheers! For more, check out all of my VLOG episodes here: www.splitsuit.com/1-2-live-cash-poker-vlog

I like you man, your doing great keep it up. I’m happy I subbed, good content✌🏼

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kbutta!

Great content James. I agree with one of the comments below, the apparently boring J9o hands are exactly what we need to see and how to go about playing them - there are more combinations of such hands than sexy AA-QQ.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Stephen - and so true!

Been trying to find this channel for awhile finally found it again!!

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome back 😊

I appreciate your $1-2 vids. I play down in South Florida.

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

The J9o hand I would fold. I can definitely imagine you generate enough folds preflop and c-betting the correct flops that it is slightly profitable when played correctly especially given that you are very unlikely to get 3-bet. However, I would be opening myself up to making very large mistakes on future streets and do not want to enter into situations that will either be slightly +EV or very -EV depending on how well I range my opponents and navigate whatever tough spots that come up. It is something I'd be more likely to do a bit later in the session once I have a bit more information on the limpers.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Totally fair. And if you aren't comfortable postflop yet, stripping hands like this from your isolation range makes sense.

@dirkroos1146

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank did it with K9o and got toasted haha... maybe the wrong players, board texture, etc. gonna try again for sure.. and yes, sometimes I limp these hands. you watched me. :)

Could watch this for hours

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

www.splitsuit.com/1-2-live-cash-poker-vlog Enjoy!

Question: on the ATs hand, if the 3h was 3s what are your thoughts on a chech/raise shove?

5:18 Kind of a light bulb moment for me. I do try to play more aggressively on the button in live cash games, but not to this level. I've even folded hands as good as QTo or A8o facing multiple limpers because I worry about getting called by them if I raise and having to play multiway. Sizing up is a great solution.

Real world problems for the rec like me Your explanations for plays are always interesting and informative and easy to make part of your game

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Bart!

nice vid..clean easy to understand and follow..can see why you shoved on the first vid with AK o.............thought the same

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Chimp!

I’ve played at OC a few times. There’s good info here that’s very specific to this game. Very passive play lots of limping / fit or fold rake is a whopping $6 + $2 buy-in capped at $200 (most buy for less) …so many would consider the game unbeatable. The 2/5 NL game has capped but-in of $800, with mostly ABC play. PLO has been the preferred game for me to to play at Orange City…players like to gamboooool :)

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. I've heard mixed results about the PLO - is the game always good in your experience? Is it mostly regs circling 1-2 soft spots? Or do even the regs make massive blunders regularly?

Great video …. Currently playing 1/2 and looking to move up .. doing pretty well in 1/2 ,,, I would say I’m a winning player but 9nly play recreationally …. But I like your video ….

damn thats crazy I was just there yesterday at orange city, do you go there often and play 1/2?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I try to play every week, but it's more like every other given my current schedule.

Thanks for the vid. The first hand with AK...if flop comes J86 and v checks to you do you still c bet?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. And yes, I jam that flop too

Good job.thx

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Those might be the grungiest looking casino chips I've ever seen.

I literally haven't played live since covid. Local casinos have only recently started poker again. But, from memory, I just feel like there aren't enough folds by limpers preflop to aggressively go after blinds/limpers. The reversed implied odds make it unprofitable taking rag hands to the flop (I find).

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Sizing can be a huge factor here, and most players tend to isolate for too small of a price ime.

Your effort is appreciated

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James!

I like the raise with J9 if you have respect and get lots of folds and probably don’t a get 3 bet on the blinds…

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Nicely said Carlos!

Hey James, I’m a 1/2 player so thank you for the 1/2 vids.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Maxwell!

''If you're behind suck out, if you're ahead...hold.'' I've heard the advice that you should focus on one aspect of your game at a time to really master it. I think that's going to be my next focus, if I can get down I can see how it would improve my winrate immeasurably.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Please let me know if you end up mastering it!

Re J9o, it feels like there are better hands to iso with, especially if the table (as you mentioned) has a lot of short stacks that might decide to just shove w/ a wide range. If we're doing this w/ J9o, then we are likely making this play with a LOT of hands. I would rather iso here w/ A9o, KTo, K2s, etc, where we also have some blockers and can hit top pair hands IP that might be able to get to showdown if called. I get this is purely exploitative and we're banking on folds, but it seems like we can find hands that also flop better to help add equity to the play.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, if the question is "would I rather have J9o or something stronger?" the answer is pretty simple 😜

@RoyceReece

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank Hrmm. You could say the same thing while using 92o. Even utg.

J9o definitely is a raise, so question is what size to use. Three principles: raise smaller with short stacks, since you can get all-in without big over-bets, raise larger as button or SB to give worse odds to BB, and don't correlate raise size to hand strength, since its easily exploitable. I'm fine with big raise in small games, where players want to preserve their chips or they'd be playing bigger. Also early in game, when no one is losing a lot, they'll fold too often. I think its terrible in big games, where players 3B aggressively.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

3bettors change the ENTIRE equation, for sure =)

Hand #1 (from the perspective of the original raiser on a stack of roughly $100) First: I don't have AK. With a short stack, I just jam pre flop. Same goes for JJ+ But what about other hands? Should i even have a calling range or should I just jam or fold pre? If I do have a calling range, what is it? Assuming I called, how should I react to this jam from my opponent on a flop that does not hit his (or my) range much if at all. It seems like snap calling 99 here is going to be a losing play to tight 3-betting ranges, but very profitable against wide 3 betting ranges, yet knowing someone's 3betting range can be really tough unless they have already show a propensity to 3bet wide.

There's a difference between calling $20 OOP vs. a tough pro and vs. another 1-2 player. I think the J9o button raise could be an overlimp. I guess as every other situation it depends on your opponents.

Would you check fold river with the last QJo if all your draws miss, even for only 25?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I would check-behind if V checked to me, yes

Hey James, the poker room I play at has 1/2 with a 500 max buy in. I don't have a huge bankroll, about 5k. And I can't really supplement it if I bust at this point in time. I know you're supposed to buy in for the max, but then I won't have enough buy-ins to be comfortable with my bankroll. Most people buy in at this game for 200-300 buy there's usually a couple people that buy in for the max. Should I just buy in for 200 and try to play my best 100bb poker?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

For sure Craig. There's nothing wrong with buying in for 100bb if that's what your bankroll and strategy best support!

Nice session

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom!

One huge problem with 1-2/1-3 is the rake. So many pots wind up being $100 or less, which usually means a 6%-15% rake, give or take. I am certain that our play should change in that environment. My guess is that we defend a lot fewer blinds. Even a hand like 76s or A4 Offsuit seems like a fold from the BB to a button raise to $10. Note that raises to less than $10 seem to be exceedingly rare in these games (at least the ones I play). Can you please elaborate in a video that discusses correct play in a high rake environment.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

You have the right idea - a little tighter preflop (especially when preflop raise sizes are 5bb+)

These small pots are truly the bread and butter of making money at 1/2. Making $7 - $14 every orbit uncontested adds up. We all hope for a reasonably soft field, decent table position and smart 3-bets.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Nicely said!

Great video, personally I play 1/3, $100 min, biggest stack size max, out of central Texas (Austin/San Antonio area), stack sizes tend to vary on action and players here tend to be a bit more of a gambling mentality and more likely to give you said action. The second hand you showed, J9 off w/ button position, I would opt to just limp there, where theres maybe 2-3 players behind that have already limped, and only SB and BB are left to act, why would that be a mistake?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The issue with limping behind there is that you have a hand that does far better leveraging FE than trying to dance around postflop in a massive SPR pot. Think about the types of boards where you want to make a big pot with J9o in a 4-5 way pot and how vulnerable you typically end up being...

@DeadsVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank Ah I see, that makes sense. Thank you for the explaination!

Joined redchip with blackfriday deal, been doing the CORE course, and I highly recommend it!

Liking because of the scarying look at the J9o 😧

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

lol Toni!

@toniweigl9783

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank the content is also Not too bad 👌

A7, I prefer a check to the preflop aggressor. Donking could make sense against one or two others but, at 1/2 especiallyC You’ll almost never get it through on such a coordinated board and when you get called (notice I didn’t say if but when) you’re out of position which puts you in a bad spot if check it and they decide to fire big. And considering the PFR has all over pairs in range and those never fold to a single barrel I think it’s even less ideal a spot to donk. I’d rather try and take the free card

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I care a lot about if villain would raise the overpairs on the flop since I'm certainly not expecting them to fold to a single flop bet

@justiceseeker2nd963

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank true, some might raise there, but some might call also to evaluate a turn card and see what you do, since if you donk into me, I know there is a possibility you flopped a set or two pair with a suited connector, so just because they call doesn’t mean it’s all clear

on the A&7 hand had MP player checked instead of betting $50 would uu have checked back or fired off a bet???

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

I was OOP in that hand, so I couldn't have fired the turn if they checked behind?

Where do I find a 1/2 table where the average preflop bet is $7? In Austin, $1/2 preflop is 15 to 25.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

At least one place you can find it is in Orange City, FL 😄

Hi do U ever play live tournaments? I play at Borgata and its 20k starting. 100 100 + bb ante 1st level then 20 min levels. It seems like once U get to level 6 its just, all in/fold. Do U know if this is how majority of tourneys are?

@noex100

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is how most tournaments are. The only ones where you will have some stack depth later on are in the WSOP, WPT, etc.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I don't play many MTTs, but yes, that's pretty common structure

@thejollyllama1579

2 жыл бұрын

@@noex100 I was watching The Lodge in Texas tournament on YT. Starting stack 40k 1st level 100-100. And 30 min levels. I like this structure, people were actually playing poker and not just coin flipping w all in/fold every hand

@noex100

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejollyllama1579 Tournaments like these exist but they're rare. Most of them allow for about an hour of real poker and then its all-in or fold the rest of the way.

Many More 1/2 games please.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

There are some more coming!

Is the J9o close to the weakest hand you'd consider raising with in that situation? How low would you have planned to go?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

It's nearing the bottom without more info, yes

Honestly I might start using J9o on the button. I definitely need to stop limping hands though.

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

Removing some limps is usually quite helpful!

I always wonder at what point do you say it's ok to fold even tho I'm getting 10 to 1 on my money. Especially when I'm in the blinds. It gets me in trouble often

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Brent. This video should explain it a bit: redchippoker.com/complete-small-blind-in-live-poker/

So my local 1/3 game plays way different - it’s at MGM National Harbor in Maryland. It has a Max buy in of 500 and the normal raise is 12 to 25. I am on a tear for the last 2 weeks and I am up 3500 in 5 sessions of 2-6 hours (average is 4 hours). It’s a bunch of tourists and retirees. How much should you change up your open amount based on the table and the local game. Watching others play on KZread, my local game plays more like a 2/5 game. So should I still try and do the 3x open or just play the normal for the table/ local customs.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of my answer would depend on "how is the game likely to react to a 3x open?" If you don't know, then it's likely worth an experiment =)

@RB-jf5ww

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank some times three bet to 45-65. But usually it’s me doing the 3 bet. Usually when other people 3b It is with aces or kings. I have seen a few with AK and Q s and Js but barely ever and a small group of people that do.

If you’re gonna get kinda out of line I would do it with J9s or J10o. And I thought the more limpers in the pot the tighter we should be

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I isolate differently vs. 2 limpers than 3+, but it's really about how each limper is likely to react vs. a "normal" and a "large" iso size =)

With J9 of spades, why did you choose not to double barrel on the turn seeing as you can still deny some equity and rep your range etc?

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think I can get Ax to fold to the triple. Repping range works best when villain cares, and will act accordingly, to what you rep 😁

i have seen people folding 1 big blind on the turn in similar spots I am telling you small stakes are insane. 24:34

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

That would be absolutely insane, lol

"you feel like a goofball."

Nice that you analyze the first spot as if its the only way to play it...

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

You're more than welcome to propose a more profitable line instead of making snarky/empty comments

@MCFoultier

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank I'd bet smaller and call a shove. I actually think checking and calling any bet ott unimproved with A high is also a viable option. As you mentioned yourself, you wont get better to fold, and you likely wont get called by worse except flush draws, so I really dont understand the reasoning behind shoving. You are just protecting your equity against hands which already draw pretty slim (suited broadways, A high etc) You're not folding anyway at this stack depth, at least give him the chance to do something stupid. The guy looks terrible already by calling a 3bet with his stack size, give him some rope.

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

That's a much better analysis, nice job! Protecting your equity and grabbing $80 outright is a pretty great result compared to betting small ($15?) and giving villain a great price even with smaller equity chunks imo - especially if you might ever make a turn mistake if they call your flop bet and jam into you on the turn...

@MCFoultier

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank I said I'd call any turns unimproved with A high

I don't understand the flop shove at all. It gets worse hands to fold, and pocket pairs to snap call. I think the fold is only good if you aren't comfortable calling a turn or river shove.

About "shallow table"(?) before hand 2: Isn't it better or even best to be the chip leader?!? Is it about the (annoying?) buy-ins and top-offs at less than table-max? - If so, I totally agree. (1. "str": not "shtr"; 2. "xtr"=>"kstr"="k"+"str"(see: 1): not "kshtr"...)

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Poker is about effective stacks. Having 2,000bb when everyone else has 50bb still means you are playing a 50bb strategy. And I'm not sure what the last part of your comment is communicating =(

@OrenLikes

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank I see. Thanks. Second part: pronunciation - not that I'm great at it myself... I like languages, and mis-pronunciation erks me... :) Would have written in private message if I knew how...

Please consider showing a few more marginal preflop folds - maybe highlight 3 or 4 at the end. Especially when it's folded to you preflop. Thanks

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t let people know how I fold preflop!!! 😂

Lots of "preflop policing" on the Q9o hand, but critics, ask yourself this: would you be saying this if SplitSuit had won that hand? My guess is no...why? Because there are no comments (maybe 1) about his 3-bet preflop with 86o, which he won. Certainly no one can find a chart advocating 3-betting 86o preflop, can they? So what this means is that Q9 preflop criticism is essentially results-oriented thinking...I don't have a strong opinion one way or another on Q9; I just think that preflop hand selection can be over-emphasized.

what happened to those chips :) ? seems like they had a rough time :D

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

VERY rough lol

@gratler

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank :D

"If you're behind, suck out" is an area of my game I really need to improve on...

@ThePokerBank

11 ай бұрын

It's an advanced strategy that requires years of focused training - but it's worth it 🤣

Great vlog! if you say you’re not going to complain when something good happens one more time I’ll show up at ur house at night. Thanks.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Why not just show up during the day? We could have a BBQ.

5:21

why do you call a $35 from a $10 a 3-bet, not a 3.5 ? thanks for the vlogs !

QJ hand you missed a couple points too, never bluff a dry side pot, since you still have to beat the all in player and give away free info to your opponents that ‘hey, I like to bluff’. Also, don’t bluff against a player who is committed, which that guy definitely was if he called off all but 25 in that spot and the pit was so large already

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Nice additions!

Why is shoving with AK a good move with SPR=1?

@davidwalsh8673

2 жыл бұрын

Same question. Seems like you didn't get enough value out of your AK there.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Have you worked any math on these spots? If not, I highly suggest it, especially looking at how often common ranges from V will end up folding their entire equity share.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

How are you defining "value" there? Is picking up an $80 pot uncontested a good chunk of the time not valuable? Is checking the flop and folding to a turn bet on a brick valuable?

@pokerandtravel6946

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank Value must be maximised. Shoving allows villain to make the least mistakes possible, thus not maximising value. 25%pot or check to induce (while never folding to any bet) are superior lines IMO.

@pokerandtravel6946

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank V has 3 or 6 outs. We don’t need to deny much equity. Also V possibly has negative implied odds and definitely has zero folding equity. So why isn’t a 25-33% bet a better line?

J9 suited should be a check back on the flop. You’re basically turning your hand into a bluff in a spot where no better hand folds to a single barrel, so why bet then? Unless you really think villain has 78 of clubs and you want to charge them I prefer to check and play for showdown value unless I improve, or perhaps run a multi street bluff to fold out AX if you feel frisky; but then again at 1/2 they might just call anyways so I don’t see it as being worth it

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I may do a complete HH breakdown on this one since it's one of those "commonly interesting" spots imo.

@justiceseeker2nd963

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank I’d say go for it. Want to see more analysis

If you are looking for a coach. Look no further. He is that good!

@ThePokerBank

9 ай бұрын

Thank you Paul!

Hey James! I live in Orange City, let me know if you wanna meet up and play a 1-2 NL sesh!

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Ryan! If I organized a meetup game (likely $1/$2 or $1/$3), would you have any interest in playing?

@ryang0789

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank yeah man, absolutely!

I didn’t make the vlog….. 😔 maybe that’s a good thing though 😂

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

This wasn't the session we played together =)

imagine the 3bet being only 7.5 blinds.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Which spot was that?

silly is A OK if the chips get sholved in your direction!!!

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed!

I find playing garbage is slippery slope….

i limp

Wondering where the logic comes from when you say that the average hourly for a winning player is 10 dollars an hour playing 1/2 live and the top end being 20. those seem like very odd averages, how would you even estimate that without a fairly big sample size of winning 200nl players. I feel like basing your spots on information like that at a table youve just sat down at can't be great. Thoughts? Just to add to this comment, I dont dislike the play with j9. I'm just wary of the reasoning in that regard. Everything else makes sense.

@ekw555

2 жыл бұрын

first, I am curious if you think that is "too high" or "too low"? or are you wondering if he just pulled it out of . . . . thin air? I think it goes like this: he is estimating 25 hands an hour. so, winning $10/hr "equates" (well, estimates) to $40 per 100 hands, or in online terms 20BB/100 (if I have not screwed up the math, lol) that would be an astronomical win rate online, but the players in the live pool are much weaker, so it is not an unreasonable base line for a winning player. the math for $20/hr is the same, of course, just double the rate. The interesting thing is, it would be nearly impossible to assemble a sample size to prove this out. I'd think most of the "good winning players" move out of the (live) 200NL pool as quickly as possible. 😃 his references about the new table was "suggesting" that it would be hard to make the win rate of an "average winner" if most of the players at the table are playing 50BB. if everyone is playing short, it's even harder to make money. you can't take the money from them unless they put it on the table.

@noex100

2 жыл бұрын

Most pros agree that 10BB's/hour is generally the highest you can reasonably win in a game in the long run, so $20/hour would be the consensus opinion in that regard. Obviously that's a soft limit and it's possible to win more than 10 BB's/hour but it's quite rare even among professionals.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

ekw555's comment is solid. And I've also discussed winrates/results with grinders I trust to develop a baseline for "avg winner" and "top-side winner" numbers.

"crushing medium sized pots at 1/2" thats for sure no clickbait

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I won pretty much all of the reviewed hands. The pots were mostly medium in size. And the session was at $1/$2. Which part of the title is clickbait?

Are you a winning player?

Yeah, your pot odds Calc is wrong. At 17:35 you said your getting "7 to 1". Your not. Your getting 8 to 1. There's 175 in the pot, and the bet is 25. If you call, you would have bet 25 to win 200. 8 to 1.

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

You are mixing up ratios. I am, indeed, getting 7:1 on a call in that spot. But if we want to get the "equity requirement", then we do the 25/200 (or 1/(7+1)) process. You add the call into the 'reward' part of the equation, but not into the raw pot odds ratio

@rokuronzoni6274

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePokerBank thanks for responding. So I finally looked up the definition of "pot odds" and yes, you are correct based on that definition. However, I don't understand the point of the calculation. Including one's call as part of the pot makes more sense to me. For example, 100 in the pot, opponent bets 100, what's the percentage of times you win to "break even". It'd be 1/3. Though, by definition the pot odds says 1/2. I don't bother with such terms, pot odds, equity, etc. I'm thinking of the plays from a probability/ game theory view point.

@ThePokerBank

Жыл бұрын

@@rokuronzoni6274 some people work in ratios and others work better by fast-tracking to the percentage like you did. Either way works so long as it gets us to the correct answer =)

Hey why not "eff" around a bit with J9 on the button when you get to punish a couple limpers. If things go sideways you can always just toss it. There's no emotional investment or feeling of entitlement to win with this junk. It's not like you sat around waiting 220 hand just to wake up with J9. And you're on the button. The button is like the last class of the day on the last day of school before summer... who cares, anything goes. The sizing kind of challenges me though. You're going 8x +1bb for each limper. That feels so "HULK SMASH" to me, but then I'm kind of a wimpy little guppy by nature so I just have to realize what feels super aggressive to me is just standard for people who know what the hell they're doing.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

lol, nicely said.

@josearzola0824

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve found with the lack of preflop fold equity I flat on the button and just outplay villains… flatting keeps my range wider than 3 betting… I’ve profited a lot more this way until another shark comes in and I do have to adjust and three bet wider myself

Sorry don't like that last hand, even 4 handed. I understand the raise was small, but calling here w/that hand is calling with any 2 cards. What was your plan to win that hand? Flop huge (so unlikely) or hope villains are total idiots (this was the case). Tho maybe you recognized villains well.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have taken the postflop line that I did if I didn't recognize who BTN was in advance 😁

Hand #2: 2 limpers, shouldn't you bet (3+2)*BB=10? Betting $20 is more than aggressive, borderline bully...

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

Would $10 likely get everyone to fold, or create a 4way pot? What is the goal with J9o here? Why is being a bully in a poker hand bad?

@OrenLikes

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ThePokerBank I get bullies all-in on nothing when I have good cards, and would have won - unless I call... ok, so you played aggressive++ and not bully... :)

too much jabber

Man live 1/2 players are not that good. I play online micros and they are tougher than these players. I’d say 75% of online players are at least decent.

@ThePokerBank

2 жыл бұрын

That's probably far too high, but remember that nobody drives to a casino/card room with intentions of folding 😄