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@Prophetofthe8thLegion

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly while we can all agree this movie isnt the best I saw a kind of Joker theme in it of it being the story of the sad fall of some one whos down on there luck into madness through fame. Now of course they are not exactly the same. Outcomes. Actions. Execution of the movie. Public opinion. All of these things factor into it. But you cant deny there are some similarities. Does that make this movie good? Hell no. This movie is by far the greatest Mediocre travesty of a Success to come out of Disney in recent years but is it fun? Sure!

@peepeepoopoomyguy7457

3 жыл бұрын

No shit. Disney's first movie had the first female character.

@lowerclassbrats77

3 жыл бұрын

Are all of these live action dumpster fires made because Disney no longer has anyone on payroll with the ability to create traditional animation

@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd

3 жыл бұрын

hey possum, please do thanks killing 1 and 3 {there's no 2, it's explained in 3} words cannot describe how stupid the films where

@andrewbacon7042

3 жыл бұрын

The 12 people who disliked probably kick dogs

Wait... Seriously the Dalmatians pushed Cruella’s mom off a cliff? Parent deaths are a big part of Disney movies and are usually pretty tragic but this is absolutely hilarious.

@jackb.207

3 жыл бұрын

I just hear "Disrespect your surroundings!" Before she gets headbutted of the cliff.

@hassathunter2464

3 жыл бұрын

This. Is. BARK. *kicks*

@okami6399

3 жыл бұрын

@@hassathunter2464 Too bad Sparta and Fus Ro Dah memes aren't popular anymore, I think this shot would have been perfect for that.

@robydee920

3 жыл бұрын

For the love of God,we didn't push anyone from the cliff,let alone Cruella's mom. One of Dalmatians(Dalmatian=a person born and raised on the coast of Croatia called Dalmatia). p.s. I pape i dida bili su Torcida.

@liviwaslost

3 жыл бұрын

@@okami6399 someone is going to do it, anyway.

"Why do you hate the puppies so much?" "Because puppies killed my mom ok?"

@b2superbattledroid977

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds so dumb

@alfiona7951

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna use that everytime someone asks me why I don't like kids.

@thebag2609

3 жыл бұрын

@@alfiona7951 "because kids killed my mom ok?" That legitimately sounds terrifying.

@toils8722

3 жыл бұрын

That was his mistake

@stringentstorm5990

3 жыл бұрын

And she doesn't even hate the puppies in the end.

We're soon going to get a movie of how Jafar was a total badass and was trying to get revenge because his family was killed by a lamp

@Meepo007

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he ain't female so Disney won't do it if they can't gain points from the crazy "feminists"

@tailfin6595

2 жыл бұрын

Ya know in Arab mythology the Djinn are usually evil so this might actually work

@Meepo007

2 жыл бұрын

@@tailfin6595 Well yeah but the thing is Jafar clearly just wanted power, not revenge. It wouldn't add up. Not that Disney cares about things adding up, but yeah. Anyways as I said before they won't bother if they don't get praised for female empowerment or something like that.

@dustinb8781

2 жыл бұрын

@@Meepo007 easy, Jafar is actually a woman but had to impersonate a man in order to progress in the patriarchal Agrabah government to become advisor to the sultan. MONEY PLEASE

@Meepo007

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustinb8781 Well that does seem the route they would take if they could muster up enough thought to think of it.

I hated the fact that they made her style throughout the entire movie “punk goth” when in 101 Dalmatians, she has a more elegant fashion and not this punk persona

@siberianbreaks979

3 жыл бұрын

yeah and it's even more stupid because it's disney, literally one of the biggets corporations using punk as an aesthetic

@Angel-ow1ko

3 жыл бұрын

@@siberianbreaks979 exactly

@mariangela_joaopedro261

3 жыл бұрын

@Dylan Sharp This is supposed to be a prequel to the original movie, not a reimagining

@andrewfink2966

3 жыл бұрын

well disney did greenlight a sequel conspiracy: in the book and movie for 101 dalmatians Cruella was middle-aged. in this movie she looked barely on the brink of 21, therefore the dogs wouldn't be alive when she is middle-aged. barrenness may escape prison and act as Cruella to ruin her, if this is the case then Disney is just playing an age game

@frankie9772

3 жыл бұрын

Also punk is all about rebelling and standing out. It’s like a movement against the system. Cruella BECAME the system and enforced every capitalist goal so punk doesn’t fit.

cruella was an iconic villain who i don’t think we needed a backstory for

@jeanlouis243

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@SaltedMallows

3 жыл бұрын

Says people who were alive during the active viewing years of this franchise.

@ProtoPropski

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she was just... The evil puppy skinner.

@ProtoPropski

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaltedMallows I mean I was born in 1998 that's 22 years that isn't a long time for the live action 101 Dalmations, I use to watch that all the time as a kid.

@Noxim008

3 жыл бұрын

Iconic villain? Eh if you say so.

Oh the irony of making the most capitalist character in disney as a punk icon is hilarious. Cruella was born rich, she liked being rich and only cared for herself. Disney trying to make her the underdog and being punk is just hilarious.

@macabweu7682

3 жыл бұрын

But hey. It is true to life. The prissy rich people are the most understanding of social issues and such. Just ask my college professor

@Breakaway-ic5gj

3 жыл бұрын

@@macabweu7682 Does your Professer skin pups ?

@jlupus8804

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes, as usual: the Champaign socialists pay for capitalist products while pretending to hate it for clout

@bentramer682

3 жыл бұрын

But isn't punk so romantic and trendy and cool, aren't Sid and Nancy like Romeo and Juliet!!!!!!!!!!???

@DrBrightIsBack

3 жыл бұрын

@@macabweu7682 Your college professor should not be in that job if they think rich people understand these issues. You wanna know the people who have the most understanding of social issues? the people affected by said social issues. Edit: I am a clown, a fool, autistic as fuck and unable to get jokes. The comedy has flown over my head like an airplane flies over Seattle. I apologize for my idiocy.

"Let me get this straight; you think Dalmatians Spartan-kicking her mother off a cliff is funny??" "I do. And I'm tired of pretending that it's not"

@YouWillBeHappyOrElse

2 жыл бұрын

"Madness? THIS...IS...SPOTTA!"

@trteeerryfse-wy2ww

4 ай бұрын

I love that Disney is failing so hard. Also hello from 2024. Things get infinitely worse. Fuck hope

They actually went with the "dogs killed her parents angle" I had to run out of the theater and hide in the restroom. I was laughing so hard.

@kellydemando3303

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, the theaters are open?

@ridleylegassy

3 жыл бұрын

@@kellydemando3303 yeah, some theatres are. Look up your area to see

@athenarocks7657

3 жыл бұрын

I was at a drive in and my boyfriend looked at me like I was crazy 'cause I cackled for a straight 3 minutes

@secre.e6870

2 жыл бұрын

@Trey S it's true i was the restroom!!

They actually went with "puppies killed her parents"?

@rocksnrolls

3 жыл бұрын

Ffs...

@MoronicRoc

3 жыл бұрын

The most similar thing to that is Technoblade's backstory on hating orphans, and even then that's played as a joke. This is a real movie.

@theflaminskull5006

3 жыл бұрын

yeah...yeah they did.

@spooderman8064

3 жыл бұрын

Basically trying to set up a backstory that justifies the original puppy skinner character

@timbo20161

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao! “I know let’s make her Batman... but with dogs”

>Explains her dislike for dalamtians >Explains the origin of her name >Explains her hair's origin >Explains her car's origin >Explains her hideout's origin >Explains her henchmen's origin This isn't female Joker, it's female Solo.

@Alpheamus

3 жыл бұрын

No? It's female Indiana Jones 🤣🤣jk just the dislike for snakes and name origin

@wreathofpalmaria

3 жыл бұрын

if you want cruella's real origins read the book.

@AndrewAce.

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't she have a cat?

@hypatia137

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, the original Cruella is older than Han Solo and also Harley Quinn as many people know. She debuted in 1961 as Disney character. As Dodie Smith's novel character, much earlier, in 1956. Han Solo's debut:1977, Harley Quinn's debut:1992 So, she is more original than those two characters. But Solo and Harley are actually more well-developed and popular. Overall this movie is good, I think. But it has two huge annoying flaws: Firstly, it has too many cliches which are handled by cliché ways. Secondly and most importantly, it does not tell the real reason, real motive, real mad mentality behind her obsession and hate against Dalmatian dogs. Ok, maybe the movie tried to say that Cruella associates dalmatians with her horrific mother and torturing these dogs makes her feel that she actually has her revenge from her mother over and over again. But the movie does not impose this argument neither visually nor psychologically and sentimentally. It is not convincing. As if the movie is afraid of telling her eerie origin story about dalmatians, and actually about all furred animals . But performances of Emma Stone and Emma Thompson are stunning, musics and soundtracks are very good, costumes and visual effects are gorgeous. It is a cool fun movie. It is worth to watch, IMO. And this Cruella seems an alternative version of the original character. A parallel earth in Disney multiverse.

@dylaxiusmccoy

3 жыл бұрын

@@hypatia137 I think you might be confused. I wasn't saying Cruella the character is like Joker or Han Solo, I was saying this movie is like the movie named Solo, as they both have a bad habit of explaining things about their main characters origins in ways that are kind of dumb (Solo being named that because he was on his own and Cruella getting her last name from a car, for example), and is nothing like the movie named Joker, which people on twitter have been comparing it to.

Nothing says “I love strong female characters” like pretending they’ve never existed.

@wrrrryyyy12

3 жыл бұрын

Disney:"Nothing says i love strong female characters like not making them at all anymore and ruining previous ones "

@joshuawilliams4741

3 жыл бұрын

@Dylan Sharp Good

@wrrrryyyy12

3 жыл бұрын

@Dylan Sharp good man we actually want cool females in movies

@satansrose1276

3 жыл бұрын

ah yes clearly if she can walk she's a girlboss. *No,* *what* *do* *you* *mean* *they* *could* *always* *walk?*

It’s like if a Disney writer slammed 10 lines of cocaine, watched Maleficent, threw a dart at a board of female Disney villains and said “I can make it work” Edit: I wonder if people would pay to see that

@satansrose1276

3 жыл бұрын

i'd pay to see that

@legionclown2656

3 жыл бұрын

i'd lay to see that

@yako4123

3 жыл бұрын

i’d pay to see that

@polishedbydana

3 жыл бұрын

I’d pay to see that

@characterizedentertainment1216

3 жыл бұрын

I'd pay to see that

Of course Cruella grew up poor. We can't have rich people grow up to be the villain. Can't have her grow up spoiled by her baroness mother.

@aidanmeacham1999

3 жыл бұрын

A mega corporation can’t say that the rich folks are evil, simple as

@slj3332

3 жыл бұрын

I thought her mother was the maid. Who the Baronesses murdered, when she pushed her off a cliff.

@gregorytu8357

3 жыл бұрын

@@aidanmeacham1999CAN potentially be evil.

@aidanmeacham1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@slj3332 bless you for not finishing the film, you’ve spared yourself.

@jeremyallen492

3 жыл бұрын

@@slj3332 the Baroness' dogs are the ones that pushed her off a cliff

I thought the first movie to have a woman in it was doom: annihilation

@Breakaway-ic5gj

3 жыл бұрын

The first game was Star Wars Battlefront: 2

@SumThingFawful

3 жыл бұрын

Ffs It was captain marvel actually

@szarekhthesilentking7043

3 жыл бұрын

@@SumThingFawful my bad

@brianaguilar8283

3 жыл бұрын

@@SumThingFawful no it was Ghostbusters

@maxtheleopard

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that was Resident Evil

Cruella just seems like the phrase "I'm Quirky." got made into a movie, which just so happened to be tied to a legitimately good brand.

@anglepsycho

3 жыл бұрын

Wait what brand? The reason abortions should be legal and mandatory for human survival?

@puglordofderp5085

3 жыл бұрын

@SmileyPotato & If the person who thought this movie up had been aborted, it would've (probably) never been made.

@voelligbanane844

2 жыл бұрын

@SmileyPotato & sorry but what do you get. what that person just told you doesnt make any sense. how is that connected to any of this

@uc4490

2 жыл бұрын

@@voelligbanane844 the person who made this movie should have never existed is what was said

Disneys next movie: Gaston: A poor boy who grew up in a homophobic household so he was closeted his whole life and as the movie goes on he meets his childhood best friend Lefuu(or whatever his name is) and he falls in love with him but he can’t be with him cos of his homophobic family. Eventually, Belle (who is now black) convinces him to be himself and ask Lufuu be his boyfriend.

@itzmeloneh

3 жыл бұрын

@some random cringe creator honestly tho

@lordfriedrick7911

2 жыл бұрын

There was a 4chan post like this With Gaston faking a macho persona to keep the image, Belle being a girl with Stockholm syndrome and everyone in the village looking at Gaston as the hero And the rest ws the movie finale

@chaosinc.382

2 ай бұрын

The inclusion of (who is now black) made me howl, cause that's exactly how thatd go

@Shady-rl8mk

Ай бұрын

Gaston is a guy, they're not gonna do that any time soon.

Remember when Twisted had a song in it where various Disney Villains showed their side of the story and how they were actually the good guys? And when Cruella showed up, the other villains booed her off stage because she literally just wanted to murder puppies to make a coat? Yeah, that's why this shit doesn't make sense.

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

Twisted? What’s that? And I bet a lot of Disney Villains aren’t really justified either. Like what’s Jafar’s motivation? Did the Sultan execute his family or something? What’s Ursula’s motivation? Did King Trident bully her as a kid? As far as I know, they’re all just evil for the hell of it.

@lukevankleef4245

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 Twisted is a musical by Starkids. It's basically Malificent but with Jafar as the protagonist. The song in question had Gaston, Ursula, Scar and Captain Hook all barge in and share the 'real' story of why they did the things they did, and how the movies supposedly make them out to be the villains. But when Cruella shows up, she basically says she just wanted to have a coat made of puppies, and all the others boo her off the stage. You should give Twisted a watch. It's really good and available for free on KZread.

@theldraspneumonoultramicro405

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 Jafar is just a powerhungry a-hole whos hard for Jasmine's behind and has nothing to "justify" his actions, but Ursula on the other hand do actually in a twisted way have a reason, not a good one, but a reason, and that being the fact that she was banished by Triton from the kingdom due to her actions, she has a whole musical number summing it all up.

@stitchfinger7678

3 жыл бұрын

@@theldraspneumonoultramicro405 She was more than banished...

@veronica-mew

3 жыл бұрын

That's literally all I could think of when I heard this movie announced. I rewatched Twisted just for that song and practically shouted "she's evil!" at the screen. Sidenote: I frickin love Starkid.

The most confusing part is how this film got approved. "Yeah, I wanted to make a prequel about an awful puppy murdering sociopath" Disney "Brilliant! You're funded now play with our millions of dollars!"

@ohyeahisthatwhatyouthink6088

3 жыл бұрын

Its easy, they ran out of ideas years ago when they started these stupid remakes and prequels. I dont know whats so hard about creating new stories.

@TheEnabledDisabled

3 жыл бұрын

@@ohyeahisthatwhatyouthink6088 it requires effort and "risk"

@emeraldnoir7099

3 жыл бұрын

Crappy script: Check Female quota: Check You're hired

@newtdockery9575

3 жыл бұрын

They only refuse toxic male characters.

@jbbandholtz417

3 жыл бұрын

It’s Disney what do you expect. They probably got promoted even after the fail

The film would have been much, much better if the Baroness had been a kind mentor whom Cruella betrayed. Better yet, that Cruella killed her pet Dalmations out of her obsession with fashion and aesthetics over morals. The character I see in this film is not Cruella.

@aaronmorris3065

2 жыл бұрын

That would have made a good movie, not what they set out to do

@viscountrainbows2857

Жыл бұрын

I wanna live in that timeline.

Those Twitter women identifying thinking Cruella is empowering have the same energy as the incels who identifies themselves as Joker Change my mind

@thebreacher3219

3 жыл бұрын

No, you're spittin' bro

@thegrimcritic5494

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit true.

@gameinglad6148

3 жыл бұрын

Spitting pure facts

@aquiledelrosa

3 жыл бұрын

literally it

@nicolasoliveira4903

3 жыл бұрын

The difference is. You can hate incels. Buts its a crime hate feminists.

Someone made a joke on Tumblr that Cruella's prequel movie would feature Dalmatians murdering her parents. As it seems, the internet was gifted with telling the future once again.

@ironreeve9370

3 жыл бұрын

I heard a saying that said something to the effect of "you can't predict stupidity," but it seems the saying is no longer true

@sionenjoyer9746

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@xthepotatowolfx2334

3 жыл бұрын

Apollo gives the internet the gift of prophecy

@schabowy6149

2 жыл бұрын

LMAOOO

@thejonbrownshow8470

2 жыл бұрын

They probably didn't even know, it's just that, it'd make sense if she got traumatized by the Dalmatians if they're going for the prequel thing, and the parents' death scenes are cliché and usually easy to atleast do a adequate job of showing tramua, but yeah this movie sucked at that 😂

PETA have been strangely quiet about this film, lol

@jlupus8804

3 жыл бұрын

“When the world needed him most, he vanished”

@SonofTiamat

3 жыл бұрын

Since when has PETA cared about actual dog abuse though?

@Jamie_Pritchard

3 жыл бұрын

@@SonofTiamat You have a very good point there 🤔

@shawntraub7249

3 жыл бұрын

Remember a few years ago how Peta had a big campaign against Mario? How he is evil because he "skins tanookis for their fur?" (Nevermind that he simply touches a leaf.) Well, Nintendo is a major competitor for Disney, who owns many media outlets and news stations. Of course Disney would want to trash Nintendo's reputation.

@infjelphabasupporter8416

3 жыл бұрын

... Because there is no animal abuse in the movie?

The most unrealistic thing about this movie is the fact that the Baroness was able to train the Dalmatians to do coordinated attacks. Dalmatians are as dumb as bricks. My aunt had one and the dog would repeatedly run into glass doors, get back up and then run into that same door again. Edit: nvm as another commenter pointed out, they’re normally quite smart. Turns out my aunt’s Dalmatian was just kinda stupid.

@matthewzablocki5310

Жыл бұрын

Then she had a dumb one. They are highly trainable and intelligent so im not surprised she got them to do this.

@heilmodrhinnheimski

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewzablocki5310 Huh, looking into it, it seems they are usually intelligent. Guess I misjudged them based on that one dog. Thank you for correcting me.

@draskopopovic9543

Жыл бұрын

​@@matthewzablocki5310bit it still doesnt make much sense when people want a guard dog dalmations arent really a popular choice

@matthewzablocki5310

Жыл бұрын

@@heilmodrhinnheimski its cool. I only know this cause my wife is big on dogs. She makes it her business to teach me everything.

@matthewzablocki5310

Жыл бұрын

@draskopopovic9543 that's what makes it a good choice in a way. You're right, not the typical choice for a guard dog. However, it's kinda like surprise cause a person looking to rob a house wld see a Dalmatian and be like "just a Dalmatian ", till it rip in to them. They wouldn't expect it. I still wldnt get a Dalmatian cause they are not good with kids.

1990: "omg wow! A strong female character!! How unique and groundbreaking!" 2000: "omg wow! A strong female character!! How unique and groundbreaking!" 2010: "omg wow! A strong female character!! How unique and groundbreaking!" 2020: "omg wow! A strong female character!! How unique and groundbreaking!"

@samwse7503

2 жыл бұрын

This comment is pure gold

@NukaCola514

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, people really didn't pretend to give a shit about that until the Twitter feminists started complaining. Movies used to be about telling a good story regardless of the main characters gender

@DrDolan2000

Жыл бұрын

+@@NukaCola514 If only it were still like that. Now it's all about... "THE MESSAGE"

@Shady-rl8mk

Ай бұрын

Can't wait for the era where "strong female characters" become the norm (assuming they aren't already the norm at this point) and everytime someone points out their gender, people will go "Ok, she's a girl. And?"

They should've given Hades his own movie instead of Cruella

@mistermann4163

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think modern Disney has the ability to make a prequel Hades given what Greek mythology has/is.

@Vaerenn

3 жыл бұрын

They won't hire James Woods to come back given his politics.

@jackb.207

3 жыл бұрын

@nikolai 1939 yes but animation is expensive to make

@ZzbrownbarbiezZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackb.207 Disney has enough money to get whatever they want, the animation is expensive excuse won’t work for them

@Keznen

3 жыл бұрын

Ironically, Zeus is actually way worse than Hades in Greek Mythology. Hades is still no saint, though, considering he kidnapped his own niece to force her into marrying him.

But did Disney thank the Chinese government for putting people into interment camps in the credits again?

@SonofTiamat

3 жыл бұрын

They probably gifted some dalmatians to their wet markets

@hassathunter2464

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they thank PETA

@hardromeo436

3 жыл бұрын

No, but they probably cut the gay guy out of the movie for Chinese audiences

@stunningandbrave7475

3 жыл бұрын

Duh! Of course they did. It’s the right thing to do.

@nugget0928

3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna need context in this statement, cause hoo boy.

"Cruella looks 30 years older then Anita." Smoking will do that to you, and she also looks the type who's only food consumption is the olives from martinis

*"It was established in the original 101 Dalmations that Cruella and Anita knew each other from when they were kids in school, and even that kind of didn't make sense, cause Cruella looks like she's like, 30 years older than Anita"* ---------------------------------------------------- The wonders of smoking 24/7

Wasnt Cruella just a crazy lady obsessed with fashion?

@bruceleeds7988

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@OoTZOMMMoO

3 жыл бұрын

To me she still is just that. This movie is retconned in my head

@masterofthelag8414

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, one of many characters that simply didn't need any more attention than they had

@YAH2121

3 жыл бұрын

Simple as

@younghentaii1772

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she was lol

Because Disney owns the Alien franchise, do you think they will make an “empowering” Xenomorph Queen origin story?

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

You think it would be better, or worse than Prometheus?

@nitromenace1424

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 depends on if they used practical effects and if Ridley Scott is high or not

@thewallachianbard6975

3 жыл бұрын

"Yas queen , slay !"taking a literal meaning .

@SpectralLumo

3 жыл бұрын

Bro, I can promise you it won't be as bad as this dumpster fire of a movie if it does happen

@jubaecurry7141

3 жыл бұрын

I WOULD PAY SO MUCH TO SEE THAT HOLY SHIT

The same people saying cruella is the same as joker were the same people calling joker a violent incel movie

They're literally only doing it because she has that half black half white hairstyle that's so popular rn. People on Twitter really gotta act like every Disney cash grab is empowering somehow.

@TheHuskyK9

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t know what you were seeing but Twitter was roasting Cruella just as well

@gamerman7276

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheHuskyK9 Good I'm glad of it.

@pandarainbow429

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it got popular because of the movie.

@gamerman7276

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandarainbow429 Nah Sia did it first.

@r.j.penfold

2 жыл бұрын

Okay like I get gradient hair dye but not half one color half another.

Glad Disney's "only gay dude" has a three traits that we all have because liking men means I make dresses apparently

@tultsi93

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't Minions movie already have a stereotypical gay guy who's a taylor?

@Holly_Summer_Storm

3 жыл бұрын

@@tultsi93 I think so its a weird stereotype

@BatMan-jd5rc

3 жыл бұрын

Odd how some movies and shows use the stereotypical gay guy. Like they think gay people don't have personalities or something. They have to be extremely flamboyant or a crossdresser of some sort.

@Holly_Summer_Storm

3 жыл бұрын

@@BatMan-jd5rc Gay people are not all generic 90s punch lines although there's still the deadbeat father overworked mom and badly behaved kids trope so maybe its not as bad as it could be

@BatMan-jd5rc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Holly_Summer_Storm Very true indeed.

I love how hard Disney tries to romanticize irredeemable villains while completely misunderstanding why Joker succeeded as it's own antagonist origin story movie. Pretty sure not that many people out there can relate with rich, old women who are pathologically obsessed with flaying puppies because "muh parents were killed by dogs!", like that isn't the most easily generic reason the writers could've came up with to drive the character's motives.

@AsteroSloth

3 жыл бұрын

Again. She doesn’t kills the puppies, not even the grown ass Dalmatians raised by the woman WHO DID killed her ‘mom.’ She actually loves dogs, so much that the friend she has the soonest and still with by the end IS A DOG. It is NOT trying to be a villain story.

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

If you ask me, Joker really sucked because they tried to humanize one of the most inhuman DC villains (and plus the movie was boring too). Joker’s history never mattered, he could be anyone or no one, all that matters is his inhumanity and how it’s all a game to him. It’s like the read Batman The Killing Joke and completely glossed over how Joker was freakin wrong. Plus the Batman series has so many other villains who fit the bill of a tragic villain way better than that. It would’ve worked better with ones like Mr Freeze, Two-Face, The Mad Hatter, or even Egghead. But no, I guess it had to be Joker because make recognition.

@BaronSterling

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsteroSloth Except it literally is. It is the origin story to a villain. A character who is cruel to her underlings and who literally embraces the name "Cruel Devil," and whose story ties directly into the story of the original movie. The original movie where she is the villain. The original movie that, if you retconned her role and actions as the primary villain, would *literally remove any connections to the source material and thus make the entire prequel movie pointless.*

@spimpsmacker6422

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 But that's kind of the point, it's just supposed to serve as an example of how even the most seemingly innocent of men can have their morality and sanity entirely stripped from them by the conditions of modern society. It doesn't justify what he did but it serves as an explanation of how he would eventually stoop that low. Also why can't Joker have his own origin story? He's literally the most iconic villain in the history of superheroes, and you know we've already seen the origins of Batman enough times to count the amount of breathes we took in our lifetimes, so I think it was about time Joker got the spotlight to himself. I don't think it was as spectacular as Taxi Driver (the film it was based on) but I'm glad it introduced newer generations to the genre of dark existential thriller.

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

@@spimpsmacker6422 This sort of backstory just fits better with Batman Villains like Two-Face, The Ventriloquist, Mad Hatter, or Mr Freeze, but not joker. But of course just use the most iconic one to increase viewership.

When I heard "I'm a woman hear me roar" in the first minutes of the movie all hope was lost for me.

I feel like 10 years from now, all the gay stereotypes that are in movies like this are going to age REEEEEEEEEALLY fucking badly. Some day Hollywood will be able to make a gay character without them being a fashion designer who doesn't say the word "fabulous" every 5 minutes. Someday.

@jbain4750

3 жыл бұрын

@@Raya-ir4tm I've not once heard an actual gay person praising the "CW gays" as I've started calling them. Normally the praise comes from straight college age white girls.

@II-jz1zo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Raya-ir4tm this is anecdotal but I haven’t met anyone who is gay who supports it myself included

@YouWillBeHappyOrElse

2 жыл бұрын

@@II-jz1zo I can't wait until you find out that the gay stereotypes are being written by gays. Not all of you act like you.

Her hair being black and white as a child is the cringiest part about this movie for me for some reason

@bluesoda6379

3 жыл бұрын

She...she's an anime character....

@infjelphabasupporter8416

3 жыл бұрын

It's a real condition called poliosis. There are actual children with similar hair, only its really rare.

@drinkdriveundertheinfluence

3 жыл бұрын

@@infjelphabasupporter8416 And doesn't look like this at all. It's still stupid. She couldn't possibly have a dyed hair, no, "sHe MuSt HaVe iT iMmEdiAtElLy sO tHaT oUr StUpId aUdIeNcE cAn ReCoGnIzE hEr!!". And Lex Luthor has also been bald his entire life because he was bald in the comics! Joker should've born with green hair too! What lazy fucking writing.

@mrminecraftcubeable

3 жыл бұрын

@@infjelphabasupporter8416 i had a classmate with that condition but it was just a patch, cruella's is so symetrical and equal it's over the top

@MA3DCH3N

3 жыл бұрын

I know! I always assumed her hair had gone white with age so she dyed some of it to look younger.

Fun fact! Most moths don't actually eat clothes, and those that do never eat them as adults - most adult moths don't even have mouths. Of the few species that do eat clothes, they all do so as larva, before they create their cocoons and enter the Pupa phase. Additionally, sewing the cocoons to the dress damages them, which probably would have killed a lot of these moths before they even came out. Cruella's whole plan to sabatoge the Baroness's dresses isn't just stupid, it's biologically impossible.

@goobermcnoober8140

3 жыл бұрын

Good to see that the mothologists are weighing in on this important matter

@nanno2990

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen the movie and that's a plot point?

@sirapple589

3 жыл бұрын

Nanno Yes it is and it’s as stupid as it sounds.

@tippero1643

3 жыл бұрын

@@nanno2990 Yes. It's stupid and (as mentioned above) biologically impossible.

@tippero1643

3 жыл бұрын

@@goobermcnoober8140 The technical term is lepidopterist, but mothologist sounds better.

The fact they put a tumblerite wig on a baby and didn't die from laughter from the absurdity of it is all you need to know of the cognitive abilities of the producers of the movie

@spencerstevens2175

2 жыл бұрын

Its not about making a good film its about checking boxes. These people are one dimensional.

Why on earth did they depict Cruella as having an impoverished childhood...the original character is like a stereotype of somebody born into a very privileged life..

Joker was a serial killer/mass murderer. In his movie, we were meant to feel bad for him but still condemn the actions he did. Like yeah he was a nice guy at the start but he got pushed to become a monster. We’re not supposed to look up to him, but rather fear becoming like him or creating people like him through our actions towards others. Cruella was a puppy skinner who seems like a bad apple from the start with a really shitty backstory. However the movie tries to make us feel bad because Dalmatians killed her mom (lmao). And now morons are saying this is an “empowering movie”. She goes on to try and murder goddamn puppies but yet we’re supposed to look up to her? Words cannot describe how dumb that is.

@GellertTV

3 жыл бұрын

Again, The Baroness killed her mother, and Estella doesn't hate the Dalmatians for now I like the movie but she's starting to become a jerk to the two henchmen and she's still a criminal, we're not supposed to look up to her it's just an origin story !!

@g.k.4710

3 жыл бұрын

@@GellertTV yeah... A Comically tone dead and ridiculous one

@boianko

3 жыл бұрын

Unlike Joker she isn't crazy either. She's just a horrible person that only cares about herself. Her mom dying doesn't really have anything to do with her actions in the original 101 Dalmatians and certainly doesn't excuse them, yet we are supposed to somehow sympathize with her for it.

@GellertTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@boianko She *is* a little bit mad but even as Cruella she's a jerk to the two bandits, we are meant to sympathize with Estella until she "died"

@g.k.4710

3 жыл бұрын

@@GellertTV Why even bother? She wins, she inherits her mom's fortune and no longer has anything to fear. She doesn't even die the the original movie, she just gets her car wrecked and slightly less money than usual. She's not a character that's going to die due to her hubris, this doesn't set up for that.

Her name is literally "Cruel and evil" or "Cruel Devil" and people are saying she's an empowering female character. What in the world...

@scottgaultney

3 жыл бұрын

Her given name is a feminine version of Cruel, and her surname is Devil. She has puppies kidnapped to murder and skin so she can make the skins into a coat. A strong and empowering female character!

@JohnDoe-qz5pj

3 жыл бұрын

The world is a retarded circus.

@SlimSamari

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-qz5pj It's been that way for years and the sad thing is people are continuing to get dumber over the years.

@donwhiteley3293

3 жыл бұрын

SJWs ARE evil. Are you really surprised they keep trying to turn evil people and characters into heroes?

@shamrockgaming9505

3 жыл бұрын

@@donwhiteley3293 I wouldnt say that disney is sjws i would say they are money hungry and stupid like they made that one evil lady movie it did good so they do it again and its still bad

Why does Cruella's fake mom look like the perfect Anita lmao

I love your blunt "I'm a possum, and I find garbage." intro. Short, sweet, and to the point.

Cruella was such a wonderful villain. Completely self centered and focused on instant self gratification. She wanted something. She would step over corpses.

@imsirnootnoot

3 жыл бұрын

Expect there trying to make her a good person the just misunderstood. But your not wrong my boy

@hardromeo436

3 жыл бұрын

@@imsirnootnoot I think the character of Cruella is misunderstood. By Disney.

@imsirnootnoot

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardromeo436 aye my boy I agree

@liviwaslost

3 жыл бұрын

@@imsirnootnoot you can only make so many,villains seem like they are misunderstood. Cruella just isn't a villain that is misunderstood. She is a greedy capitalist that wanted to skin a bunch of puppies for her gain. That's not misunderstood. I can think of many people and companies that do similar things, one example is Disney.

@autobotstarscream765

3 жыл бұрын

Tasty, tasty puppy corpses...is Cruella being repackaged as a heroine in another doomed-to-fail attempt at attracting a hot new overseas audience? 🇨🇳

Questions that will never be answered: What's inside a blackhole? Why does disney keep making bad remakes? Why did the goblin turn on the stove?

@Breakaway-ic5gj

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't there nothing in a Blackhole ?

@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312

3 жыл бұрын

1. Dunno 2. People watch them so they make money off of it 3. Because he wanted to cook some roast beef

@andrewbacon7042

3 жыл бұрын

1 an infinitely dense mass made of everything is has consumed 2 because they don't bother to look at what people actually want and just make stuff for the sake of getting attention 3 so he could cook his brain and forget this terrible movie

@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbacon7042 why would they bother looking at what people want? If people stopped watching their garbage remakes they’d stop making them because they wouldn’t be making money

@andrewbacon7042

3 жыл бұрын

@@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312 good point

"Hi, I'm Possum and I find garbage" *Waits for can open sound* *No can opening sound....*

"I'm a possum, I find trash" instant sub lol

@Huxley_Day

3 жыл бұрын

You made a smart choice.

Bro. I swear to you I thought the whole "Dalmatians killed my parents!" Thing was a joke...

@GellertTV

3 жыл бұрын

But of course, it's The Baroness that killed her, not the Dalmatians. She never hated the dogs for that in the movie

@nykerianash1590

3 жыл бұрын

@@GellertTV Still doesn’t matter the Dalmatians still played a very stupid part and some how didn’t kills itself in the process. They also used the wrong breed up of dog if they wanted such aggression. But here’s the most important part if this doesn’t make her hate Dalmatians than the whole scene was completely pointless (and that’s so much worse). Because it means the writers just didn’t care.

@GellertTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@nykerianash1590 Oh no no no, Dalmatians can be very aggressive if threatened and even more since her owner called them I don't even think she should hate the Dalmatians until she becomes obsessed with the (101) little puppies And it does serve a purpose to the story, that whole time she blamed herself for the death of her mother because she also got chased by them and thinks she lead them to her. And of course the plot twist, The Baroness did, she wants revenge and the movie continues

@ammagon4519

3 жыл бұрын

@@GellertTV god I love Disney twist villains...

@GellertTV

3 жыл бұрын

@Jethus: the forgotten brother of jesus Then tell me what's wrong with it instead of saying nonsense

We need a strong female character to make a "woke" movie, what have you got? What if we chose the lady who tried to kidnap puppies to skin them for fancy clothes?

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

Next thing you’ll know, they’ll do it again for the crazed tentacle witch who made a Faustian deal with an undersea king’s daughter, just so she could use her in a plan to steal his item of power and rule the ocean.

@callmechad9056

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 She'll be a lesbian entrepreneur

@thegooserr12

3 жыл бұрын

@@callmechad9056 and is also black and a vegan

@snipeuminusthesniper

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 To be fair, i honestly think an ursala movie would be good, mean out of most the evil females they have in their cast Ursala is the one you could most work with, the rest were just pure evil hurdles, at least Ursala was just out for revenege to a degree, not like i want to be most beautiful or eternally young

@raylenn4444

3 жыл бұрын

ursula was canonically a wirch who made fair & honest deals.... ariel wasn't forced by ursula to accept her terms, she could have said no at any point before sealing the deal. and she didn't . she consented to it. so yeah, not evil as you'd assume on that part. on the other hand, she's out for revenge agaisnt triton for persecuting her & banishing her away. let's not forget that triton's the same selfish dick who banished amusement, fun & music from his kingdom solely because "muh wife dead & music reminds me of wife",so yeah, triton'd quite the tyrannical asshole to evryone. in that sense, ursula is justified to retaliate against him.... so a movie aboit her could work. unlike cruella's movie.

okay, so i have this crazy idea for a new disney movie right, so theres this austrian guy, he was a soldier in world war one and got a bit fucked up with a mustard gas attacks, then he dedicates his life to the passion of painting, but the evil guys keep saying he sucks, and then he is in the gutter sad and depresend and he finaly snaps and decides to take his revenge on the critics and the entirety of europe, i think they would love this story.

@JoseJimenez-vc7we

3 жыл бұрын

Yes0-0

@queenofnarnia1011

3 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference!

@fataliecatalie899

2 жыл бұрын

Heh. Hehehehehehe

@a-10thunderboltll26

2 жыл бұрын

When Hlhe sees a very funny Charlie Chaplin film he thinks"hmm what a nice stache.I should do it

@ianduarte1992

2 жыл бұрын

@@a-10thunderboltll26 he puts the mustache and does a little bit of trolling

Even as a female these kinds of films just piss me off. They potray that the only way a woman can be strong is to be superior over men. Disney itself created a film with a strong female protagonist:"Cinderella" that really showed that even after loosing both of her parents and being abused,neglected,worked up by her step family FULL OF WOMEN, she was positive,contend and hopefull. That was an actuall portrayal of a strong character. Nowadays no one needs to slap it to the audience's face that:'Oh incase you forgot she is a "strong" female character' But rather let the audience figure that out on their own.

@ibegtheepardon4950

Ай бұрын

People actually complain about Cinderella because she was "saved by a man."

Can Disney stop trying to make all villains redeemable. Its just laughable at this point. Let the evil characters be evil for fucks sake.

@Jormyyy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm usually pro villain in most forms of media and even I can't side with Cruella.

@RiylanCorma

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta work in the inversion somehow... Almost like there's an agenda...

@AutumnWind92

3 жыл бұрын

@@tacitgamingfanREAL DaMaGeD

@Lrdnqustr

3 жыл бұрын

@@tacitgamingfanREAL “HiTlEr’S nOt EvIl, jUsT MiSuNdErStOoD!” I swear one day this will happen.

@mastermind4499

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lrdnqustr I honestly fear it will pretty damn soon

The “good looking dress burns up to reveal an eye catching sexy dress” trope is getting kinda tiring. We get it, you’ve seen hunger games

@omandeesamaratunge6003

3 жыл бұрын

I saw in a fashion account in insta that this fire dress trick is actually real. It was used before in a fashion show and they have used a special fabric for it. I can't remember the brand or the details of it but it was definitely inspired from that trick

Weirdly enough, if this was a story about a random woman with a dream for fashion, the movie wouldnt be so bad. But Disney just had to pick Cruella, the psycho puppy murderer

Hades, the god of the underworld is a more redeemable villain than cruella

@starscream8989

3 жыл бұрын

ffs her name is Cruella De Vil, she was a literal villain, how is that redeemable?

@brunnokamei9623

3 жыл бұрын

In Greek mythology, Hades isn't even evil for starters. He just have a shitty job.

@lazarus1540

3 жыл бұрын

@@brunnokamei9623 and in Hercules he's just the best character

@OsnosisBones

3 жыл бұрын

@@brunnokamei9623 Yeah, honestly Hades is probably one of the gods who's most respectful of humans. Has one of the more stable relationships with his wife too (ironic, since many interpretations have him trick her into being stuck in the underworld most the year with him as a way to explain changing seasons). Hell, the role Hades has in the disney version of the movie if anything just kinda has Hades take the place of Hera, since it was Zues' wife who had the murder boner for yet another kid born from a woman other than her. Honestly, someone like Ursula funny enough would have probably worked better as a redeemable female villain in general if they're so dead set on it. Her actions when you actually look at it isn't anywhere near as horrid as other villains, you can kinda get why she hates the king, and like Hades she's not even the villain in the original story the disney version is based on. But you know, using villains who are conceivably easy to redeem requires basic thought so-.

@herossoup6027

3 жыл бұрын

As everyone else has said, the original Hades himself was arguably one of the most respectable gods. He didn’t even antagonize the mortals for no reason! The guy simply loved his wife and took care of his three headed dog, while running his crappy job

First it's "Singing killed my grandma," and now it's "Dogs killed my parents." lol

@ZoeThomson00

2 жыл бұрын

I had to look that up and I was NOT dissapointed lmfao

He didn't lie, he really finds trash and shows it to us. Ew! 🤢

@Joseph_Stalin1940

3 жыл бұрын

You should arrest the people who made the movie they're "Criminal scum"!

@AsteroSloth

3 жыл бұрын

Usually, I’d say possum was fair with his points. But he REALLY ignored the good parts. It’s a pretty good movie actually.

@baalgargaming6587

3 жыл бұрын

I bet you did too, until you took an arrow to the knee!

@vyrenvygolo2429

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsteroSloth Its a good movie if you are high on cocaine.

@Jack_Woods

3 жыл бұрын

I know, never before have I been this disgusted when being shown a bad film I can smell this film it's so bad

Dalmatians killing her mom is the exact same as “because singing killed my grandma!”

“omg she skins puppies, such a strong woman!”

Next on the Disney list of bankrupt ideas: - Ursula: A plus sized, trans female empowered octopus story - Governor Ratcliffe: Purple Man Bad! -Gaston: It’s toxic masculinity, but shirtless (ur welcome ladies)

@OleksiyAntonkin

3 жыл бұрын

Purple Man heheh

@malachiflournoy9387

3 жыл бұрын

Ursula was based on a drag Queen, so it’s not too much of a stretch.

@monkeybro162

3 жыл бұрын

Melissa McCarthy will portay Ursula in the new little mermaid

@pepearown4968

3 жыл бұрын

For Gaston, will he be eating 4-5 dozen eggs per morning?

@epicgamerevang4502

3 жыл бұрын

Slippery slope

So it's _Cruella: the Retconning_ *Oh great...*

@putinpunhere

3 жыл бұрын

The retcon to surpass all retcons!

@kylebooface6359

3 жыл бұрын

I thought you said _the Reckoning_ for a split second

@bataton7733

3 жыл бұрын

I mean... Let's get real. All Disney's live action shit are Retcons. All of them.

@paulgirtu2463

3 жыл бұрын

electric boogaloo

No, they didn't use "dog killed parent" There is no freaking way

"that dalmatian skin coat is literal perfection". "it will be, when it fits a woman".

"I guess at somepoint in life, Anita decided to change her race or something." Why did I laugh so hard?

@johnbacon4997

3 жыл бұрын

What is it with Hollywood changing white characters to black? If they changed black panther or Luke cage to white to pander to white audiences it would be insulting not empowering.

@superstarthomas

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnbacon4997 They can't even make them accurate for the sake of their diversity BS. Instead of Anita that could of been any other black kid that just decided to befriend Cruella. It would make more since, Not to mention since Cruella is way older then Anita in the original film. God they do some stupid shit, heck I could make a better movie.

@liviwaslost

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnbacon4997 they should have just made a new character.

@SlimSamari

3 жыл бұрын

@@liviwaslost Their too lazy to do that.

@liviwaslost

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlimSamari indeed

"We need to make a film that appeals to the female demographic. So it needs to star a violent abusive psychopath! Thats empowering"

@athenarocks7657

3 жыл бұрын

@A Zee The story was absolute crap, but I've got to hand it to the costume designer. Those looks were amazing. It was a major factor in why I didn't stop watching half way through

@hallowedchromee310

3 жыл бұрын

@@athenarocks7657 besides that it didn’t even make much sense for guys to bully her?? They purely did that for their ‘women empowering’ reasons lmao. When it would’ve been a lot more sensical to have girls picking on her if they went that route. A lot of shit in that movie really didn’t add up tbh

@aidentoons

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with the rest of it but you didn't need to say the psychopath part. Stop demonizing the mentally ill and just hold people accountable, sociopaths and psychopaths suffer enough from chronic boredom. By generalizing a whole group of disabled people you're not being good in any way, you are silencing the victims of abuse that have ASPD and it's disgusting. Even if you were abused by someone with ASPD and not just diagnosing them because of how they were then it still doesn't mean all of them are like that, would you say that people with depression and PTSD are all abusers? because that's equally shitty and stupid, people were abused by people with those disorders and ASPD but they don't go on saying all of them are like that, there's also psychopaths and sociopaths that are abused by neurotypicals, simple as that. You can still have compassion without empathy, and lacking empathy does NOT mean lacking morality. Ted Bundy might have had ASPD but that doesn't mean murderers can't be neurotypicals too, and that victims can't have ASPD. By saying that all psychopaths are like that, you're being extremely ableist and offensive. You could have used the word murderer or something but psychopathy is a disorder, not an adjective.

@djdragondrawer9339

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidentoons Lmfao, this sperg out was the funniest shit I've ever read. You're screwing around right? Lol, "extremely ableist and offensive"

@flannelfan433

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidentoons you sound like twitter

Once the movie said “I am woman hear me roar” I just couldn’t!!!!

@dragonslayer7724

Жыл бұрын

to me it was more like "I am woman hear me make absolutely no sound at all"

I liked the movie, I’m confused how anyone found this shit empowering though. It’s not like it had a good message.

@athenarocks7657

3 жыл бұрын

I was just there for the iconic looks. It would have been a perfectly passable plot if it wasn't about Cruella, not great not terrible. Making an unfit backstory for an iconic character was just asking for trouble.

@secre.e6870

2 жыл бұрын

I like the movie too, i kinda of disagree with some stuff he said, like about she painted her hair but later shows she has a wig, like her hair obviously grow since she was a child when she dyed her hair, and probably got tired later of painting her hair over and over again so just used a wig

I am surprised how with SpongeBob getting unnecessary spin-offs. That they didn’t give Plankton a dark origin movie similar to Joker with Joaquin Phoenix.

@DrMatrix1231

3 жыл бұрын

DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS

@Ilikebugs2464

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrMatrix1231 that would be hilarious

@TheParanormalist0601

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, I would love to see that story.

@Canadiansamurai

3 жыл бұрын

We already got an episode that went into his backstory

@callumsparrow4379

3 жыл бұрын

To be completely honest though, a mature Mr. Krabs spin-off centring around his time in the war that left him depressed would be quite interesting.

Cruella De Vil, Cruella De Vil If this movie doesn't confuse you, no Disney live action remake will

@DioDeezBrando

3 жыл бұрын

It's literally in the fuckin name

@CybersoxK.T

3 жыл бұрын

This is some bullshit This is some bullshit. Disney clearly took more than one hit. They tried to make a puppy killer redeemable. This is inconsolable

@DumbMonsta

3 жыл бұрын

@@DioDeezBrando what is in the name?

@onlyoddity

3 жыл бұрын

*cough* Mulan

@chibidark321

3 жыл бұрын

@@DumbMonsta Her name is Cruella De Vil, aka Cruel Devil

Me: “How can Disney humanize Cruella, an evil woman that literally wants to skin puppies for fur coats?” Friend: “Puppies killed her mother by pushing her off a cliff” Me: *”That’s* what they went with??” 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I love how everyone is so caught up on boy vs girls when it comes to this movie that nobody talks about Anita wearing black face for the entire duration. lol

"This movie smells like glue and crayons" is not only a perfect review of the film, but it also informs us of the diet of the writers.

@talltroll7092

2 жыл бұрын

... they were Marines?

@austinreed7343

2 жыл бұрын

Presumably, the glue is from various Dumbo characters.

@trolla5125

2 жыл бұрын

@@talltroll7092 I think marines only eat crayons though

Disney announcing their first gay character for the umph-teenth time: Hey I've seen this one! *what do you mean you've seen it? It's brand new*

@countyfacts6920

2 жыл бұрын

We don't know for sure that character is gay. It's ridiculous to think that if you act a certain way, you're gay,, or if you're gay, you have to act a certain way. However, it may be more historically accurate for the time period--I'm not an expert on this.

@Ratchet2431

2 жыл бұрын

@@countyfacts6920 Mad Men handles it much better.

@loganfox946

2 жыл бұрын

@@countyfacts6920 nah they choose a random character and say hes gay even if it makes no sense

I like the idea that feminists identify with one of the most hateable Disney villains.

Holy shit, this is a dumpster fire.

Cruellas mum looks more like Anita then the actual Anita in the film

@gravemind883

3 жыл бұрын

Fuckin hell glad I'm not the only one who thought that

@hardromeo436

3 жыл бұрын

Wonder if she was originally cast as Anita but then some scumbag Disney producer was like, "No! We needs more o' dat diversity! Go get me a *black!* "

@gravemind883

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardromeo436 they did that with Tris in The Witcher show the bastards. The actress who plays her isn't *bad* its just unfortunate they didn't keep her normal looks.

@pippidraws7710

3 жыл бұрын

Was jist about to say that i was super confused. Idk why they felt the need to cast a black girl as Anita like being white inst a bad thing... Characters are allowed to be white disney. Feels like they are just rrying to be woke lets make this white character black... Instead of just making a new black character black washing / whitewashing isnt okay for any race to do to eachother Disney youre not doing anything by doing this

@roserose109

3 жыл бұрын

bruh... and Anita in the animation was sort of red headed. once again, they fucking replace a red-head with a black person

Not every character needs an origin story damnit

@haveanotherpinacolada

3 жыл бұрын

The finances demand it. That's it.

@PlayersPurity

3 жыл бұрын

I will like Cruella less if they decide to make this film canon-

@viscountrainbows2857

Жыл бұрын

Farmer With Shotgun: A Dragon Ball Story

@DrDolan2000

Жыл бұрын

I usually prefer if they don't. Especially when it comes to villains. I don't want to know Cruella's backstory; I don't want to learn Maleficent's origins. I want to hate them with a burning passion!

"Men criticize women for calling Cruella a girl boss, yet they like homelander". Really, homelander is fucked up in the head, he has the "im more powerful than you so im the boss of you" type vibe. Cruella had a parent who cared about her. Homelander had no parents, just doctors, and that's why homelander is so obsessed with his image to the public. Cruella isn't comparable to homelander.

@dragonslayer7724

Жыл бұрын

that's kinda what I said in another comment homelander actually has an understandable backstory as to why he is and then you just have this goofy ahh dalmation murderer who does it because it murdered their mom

they even did the "wayne is your father" thing but with "the baroness is you real mother" ? my god

I read a comment about Cruella where the dalmations killed her mom or whatever and I didn't actually believe it until I watched this video. Holy shit

@dresean3725

3 жыл бұрын

I nearly spit up my drink when he said that. I couldn't believe it either

@thewallachianbard6975

3 жыл бұрын

I read the part where the bad guy is actually her real mom, and the parachute dress. I thought it was a joke ...

@GellertTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@dresean3725 But she doesn't hate them because of that, it's The Baroness who killed her mother !

@DumbMonsta

3 жыл бұрын

Why is that bad? Also the dogs where command by the owner to killed her so its not like they killed her because they are bad bad dogs

There's more plot holes in this story than any of my head canons....

@mastermind4499

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you wear cannons on your head

@guiltyxiphos1204

3 жыл бұрын

@@mastermind4499 no, it's basically a fan-fiction but inside your head.

@mastermind4499

3 жыл бұрын

@@guiltyxiphos1204 oh. Cool. I have loads of these actually. Thanks, I'm stealing that term

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine how those people defending this movie like Possum showed at the beginning, are thinking of the most nonsensical way to defend those plot holes. And claiming that you just didn’t understand or are biased or something if you don’t accept their “explanations.”

@guiltyxiphos1204

3 жыл бұрын

@@ablosch2452 I'm sorry but I don't seem to understand you...

I'm gonna say it right now, this movie ruined my childhood.

Crazy that they made the dogs evil killers and the dog killer a sad misunderstood hero

@yoshibeara3446

3 жыл бұрын

Ya dogs don't have morals but people do

I wonder if Cruella unnecessarily turns on the stove just to show how evil she is.

@steffanshurkin1123

3 жыл бұрын

Why did Cruella turn on the stove?

@hoodedman6579

3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of that one clip of some DC animated show where Lex Luthor doesn't wash his hands after going to the bathroom because he's evil.

@kazineverwind5267

3 жыл бұрын

I bet she leaves the sink running.

@sorakh4119

3 жыл бұрын

She’s the type of person to not wash her hands after using the bathroom.

@majickman

3 жыл бұрын

@@sorakh4119 She lifts the seat up when she's done

Bad person: does bad thing Movie: that’s okay because they have [insert bad thing here] happen to them! Good person: does bad thing to bad person Movie: no! You are just as bad as bad person! You can’t do that!

@Mikalent

3 жыл бұрын

If the movie industry was being honest by their own logic as laid out in this movie, our favorite Austrian Painter turned mustached country leader should be an empowering hero because he was beaten by his Drunk farther constantly and beat down by society as a whole because he had a funny accent growing up.

@AsteroSloth

3 жыл бұрын

Doing ‘bad’ things to ‘bad’ people still makes you a bad person. Wanting justice is one thing, but wishing bad on bad people just puts you on the same pool.

@motherofpea4rll

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsteroSloth not saying it doesn’t but it’s weird how the bad person is justified but the good person is deeply and morally wrong. Also, I get the vibe this is going to turn into a debate about existential crisis and it’s not black and white; but that’s not what I want to do

@ablosch2452

3 жыл бұрын

It would be like saying Dio Brando isn’t a villain, and saying it was okay for him to become a murderous Stand User all because in his childhood bad things happened to him like him being raised by drunk parents who regularly beat him.

@maximumrisk2004

3 жыл бұрын

There is context to consider! The same action may be understood different ways depending on what made them do it. Killing just for the giggles? Killer! Killing in self defense? Victim. Either way they killed someone. In this Context it makes it at least more understandable that Cruella might have a grudge with especially Dalmatians, but as constantly shown by the Movie itself. Cruella fucking loves Animals in this Version.

Imagine remaking Mr. Burns into a good guy to own 'mUh WoMeNz'.

Ah yes animal cruelty so empowering, gO oFf GirLbOSs 🤪👊

6:00 that’s what’s great about Stephen King’s Carrie, everybody picked on her, boys and girls alike, but especially girls. That story told it like it is

@astarteswillum5259

3 жыл бұрын

Girls can be even worse than boys sometimes. To them, it's not enough to just bully you. They have to assert their dominance by completely trashing your reputation. Usually through use of the internet.

@digitalfantasies4570

3 жыл бұрын

Okay the comment above me is cringe, I have met several guys who do the exact same thing, when you do stuff like saying girls can be worse and you group a entire gender into "them" then it just seems wrong. You literally said "They have to assert their dominance". I'm presuming some girl had done that to you or a friend in the past but legit your comment goes directly against the original comment which is the fact that both guys and girls can be terrible people and that ANYONE can be bad and that grouping a certain gender as worse is wrong. And no saying "sometimes" at the start of your comment doesnt get rid of you basically saying girls act worse.

@Q-TebGamesNL

3 жыл бұрын

@@digitalfantasies4570 tbh from what I've seen, girl are often worse than boys, mostly because they can do it so much more subtly and unnoticed, compared to boys. I don't know how they do it, but they seem to get away with bullying much easier than boys. Not that it should be a contest of who bullies better, both girls and boys should just stop, but I'm just saying that I've only ever found out about girls bullying other students once the victim came out about it or something happened to the victim, while I, for example, saw a boy pull off another boy's shoe and backpack and throw them away on the playground, _literally yesterday_ They had no subtlety whatsoever. Yet, I've never seen a girl bully with my own eyes.

@613harbinger316

3 жыл бұрын

@@digitalfantasies4570 Actually, yes. Saying "sometimes" in the comment DOES get rid of the meaning that girls act worse all the time. Your opinion that it doesn't has no basis in the sentence's meaning outside of your desire to support your own argument. Therefore it's your comment that is cringe.

@dresean3725

3 жыл бұрын

@@digitalfantasies4570 This doesn't state it as a fact, but I've met quite a bit of girls over my lifetime and when this topic is brought up literally all of them have said girls can be far more cruel. It makes sense, too. Girls are typically more emotional. They know how to fuck with someone's emotions far more than the typical guy and jealousy is also a huge driving force. Guys don't get jealous of girls, but girls definitely get jealous of other girls. This doesn't mean guys are better than girls, it's just girls are arguably smarter when it comes to their own sex

"Cruella looks like she's 30 years older than Anita." Cruella also clearly smokes six packs a day. Smoking prematurely ages you, so that's not as strange as you think.

@b2superbattledroid977

3 жыл бұрын

Also probably went through more stress

@WillsonT011

3 жыл бұрын

@remy Anita also looks White but as you see in the movie She's black🤣🤣🤣

@loganfox946

2 жыл бұрын

@@WillsonT011 maybe she did a michael jackson

@fregneti

2 жыл бұрын

@@loganfox946 reverse Micheal Jackson

@fleuttre4510

2 жыл бұрын

@@fregneti no micheal jakson as u know scoring to this logic she was first black the. White

"Deville... I like it" has the same energy as that one awful Fantastic 4 movie, where they get the name the exact same way

@Mate_Antal_Zoltan

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I never liked that the Human Torch was this dumb himbo jock with little to no character development

I was so mad when they revealed that: 1. She was BORN with white and black hair! I always liked the idea that she CHOSE to paint it that way to stand out you know? 2. She has a dog herself...... WHY?! it's not like the dog is so important to the story (except the 'stealing necklace scene' but they could've replaced Buddy with Wink). And then it makes even less sense, because I don't see a dogowner wanting to skin puppier. 3. That Jasper and Horace are her friends. In this movie she also HAD to apoligise for being a bitch, because they wouldn't help anymore otherwise. So why would they just take it from her in 101 dalmations?? 4. That she delivered the puppies around. Not neccecary because Perdita and Pongo are then related, but because that the scene in 101 dalmations that Cruella had to discover that newborn puppies don't have spots doesn't make sense then. (and that scene is dumb anyway). There are more things that frustrated me, but that they didn't really think about making a prequal that would make sense or that fits the 101 dalmations movie is the most frustrating to me.

cruella: steals and skins dalmatians for pretty much no reason people born without brains: "omg so empowering for women!" so is joker an empowering men movie? edit: I hate having a popular comment edit again: please stop replying

@randomguy-randomness

3 жыл бұрын

Y e s

@Roccosfilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ruskah0307 nvm I'm tired and I got tetanus shots

@AmberCommentsThings

3 жыл бұрын

Disney: *Blue screen* "yOU wErEn't sUppOsEd tO dO thAt"

@kabalanstef9636

3 жыл бұрын

The joker is a complex caracter and the one in joker is an anty hero, not a hero.

@Binks182

3 жыл бұрын

Na because muh patriarchy

It would have made more sense for Cruella to die at the end of the film.

@1rbdt

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, if they're gonna give continuity the middle finger they might as well go all the way.

@montajedelespectador

3 жыл бұрын

Its a prequel origen new universe film cant dead

How can you possibly make Cruella a sympathetic villain? Her name is CRUELLA DE VIL! Her name literally has the words cruel, evil, and devil in it!

"bad writing is ruining the quality of our suffering" - Tom Waits

Adding Anita to the ever expanding list of redheads raceswapped by Hollywood.

@timeforamunch2616

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly feel bad for redheads. Never thought I'd say that.

@joshuafischer684

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, the casting agent is dyslexic. The script called for a "ginger".

@sleepykitty8918

2 жыл бұрын

It's getting ridiculous. Stupid racist dyslexia -_-

“The first ever film to have a woman in it!” Yep that’s about all that people will think of with films like this. “It has a woman so that makes it automatically good!”

@DaRealKing303

3 жыл бұрын

Shits been going on for literally decades with almost all media. Its ridiculous!

@imnotpayingchildsupport4506

3 жыл бұрын

Why do people act like Cruella is the first movie to have a women in it when we had Ellen Ripley as the main character in the Alien movies

@MrSw7ndel

3 жыл бұрын

@@imnotpayingchildsupport4506 for the same reason everyone forgot about Wesley Snipes being in blade. Woke is only about money and an agenda. It has nothing to do with reality.

@SonofTiamat

3 жыл бұрын

When simply having a va ina is a character trait

@imnotpayingchildsupport4506

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSw7ndel Oh ok then thanks for the information then

"idk how to drive" *hotwires a car*