➡➡THUNDERLORD & LAMENT COMMENTS➡➡I know that THUNDERLORD is not best-in-slot (Levi's Breath w/Catalyst is BEST, got me my Day 1 CHALLENGE/CONTEST CLEAR) but some folks aren't the best at aiming (& don't have the catalyst) This part is for those people WHO ARE STRUGGLING & Can't Hit Shots. This also goes for LAMENT. ✅Your LEVI's BREATH/LAMENT isn't better if you MISS multiple HITS! 🤣That's the point - EASE OF USE for players who are struggling. ✅Some people can't hit their combos with Lament, & people miss ALOT. F.Guillotine is "MORE CONSISTENT" and easier to Hit Crota, especially if he's moving around a ton. (Thereby, it CAN get you more damage if yous struggle to use Lament) ✅If you can hit your combos, use Lament BUT Do note that unless you stun lock Crota, 5 Laments on Crota make him move QUITE A BIT. Ir Yut is currently 1 Phased with Sleeper, which I think is probably the best combo of Ease of Use and Damage. Levi's Breath/Legend of Acrius/Bait and Switch Weapons can also 1 Phase. Thanks for watching!

@MrLongshotbob

10 ай бұрын

I've heard Hunter's truesight aspect can also help see if there's wizards or shriekers

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

It does! You can use that too, but Radar/Wishender is dummy easy as well, and is class agnostic.@@MrLongshotbob

@lightningblast6438

10 ай бұрын

@@C-yb2mw I do have the Thunderlord catalyst and MMMM is it TASTY! I can't tell you how many big bosses I've melted with that on my Titan.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

@@C-yb2mw Dude, I'm telling you, as someone who has sherpa'd THOUSANDS of people through Raids/Dungeons/Exotic Missions/GMs, Some people Are just NOT GREAT at hitting their shots. Yes, they should be better. Yes, they should be better at aiming. Some people still struggle with it...so the only 2 solutions are "GIT GUD" (which is not the point of this particular piece of content) and "Here's an alternative" It's literally that. Im just waiting for the comments from people who are about to come in and say "requires divinity, I'm out" That's why some folks were mad at the Wicked Implement Exotic Mission.

@andrewmarklowitz2728

10 ай бұрын

hey whats the combo for falling when using it on crota

Number one tip, throw as hard as Mano.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

This is true.

You can blink through the shields with enlightened and not lose enlightened, thus giving an extra expunge for damage

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

I heard about that, but didn’t add it since I didn’t have footage. (I always did Well/Damage.) Excellent call out

FYI for the chest before Ir Yut, you just have to bank the chalice and the door will open for everyone

@Goten3230

10 ай бұрын

@TheManoDestra might want to pin this one for your subscribers, and Sleeper is the best LFG strat DPS

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Yep, I added a video pin at the time mark to make it clearer. :) Some people have just missed the Deposit note I put there. Thank you!

@adamweideman4193

10 ай бұрын

YASSSS was going to comment this x

@AlphaNOmegaX

10 ай бұрын

​@@Goten3230for the witch encounter?

@rudolphbenikiii7565

10 ай бұрын

tried my first run last night. we wiped a few times trying to get this chest, and when we finally made it, it never spawned. Is there a reason why it wouldnt spawn?

The lantern encounter you can have one person go all the way to the top and then rest can play the encounter like normal and won't get hit by any thralls thanks to the person all the way at the top. They just need to stand on a rock or tall spot.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

We tested this / there’s still thrall at the beginning and end, but in the middle it does help!

@jasonhernandez730

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra Thanks for the info

for the stronghold tip, i would still run it on master as it helps with crota shooting teammates just hotswap to pyrogale once damage starts

@JoelHernandez-tz3vk

7 ай бұрын

If I had Pyrogale in the 1st placw.

We got our first clear last night and most of these we incorporated. I suggested on Friday to my group to get everyone enlightened on the spaun side at bridge. It's good to know that's a suggestion from you as well.

the dude in my lfg had such a complicated strat for bridge man. the way you describe is soo much easier now i just need lfg to use this strat lol

Just saw that you were in Castle's guardian games competition, sad to see titans come out last, but you also got screwed over by the grandmaster glitch. Still must have been an amazing experience, keep up the amazing work!❤

As always, great advice

I know from personal experience running the raid with you that those tips make everything ao much easier. Thanks for great info Mano!

For the lantern section, use a vesper of radius warlock. It's insane with arc souls

If you have the relic sword. Don't forget you can still throw grenades such as a healing nade.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely goated if you're a Warlock using the Hive Sword, for sure!

Really helpful tips! Thanks a bunch!

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!!!!

Thanks dude

Great tips

Great Vid! We are doing the bridge enocunter the exact same way you just showed and it works beautifully. Also, we onephased Ir Yut with Thunderlord lmao

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

I KNOW RIGHT! Just dummy easy (NOT best in slot) and you don't have to worry about people missing their shots.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Sleeper Looks good too, but folks just have to hit their shots!

still havent beatne it, but will try this week thanks for the tips

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!!!

Great tips overall. Gonna use quite a few of them in my runs.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Great tips! Thanks

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Bro the way you explain everything.. love bro.. 🔥😍😍🔥🔥🔥😍😍🔥

Leviathans breath does a lot more then thunder lord 😊

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Check pinned comment! I think you missed it!

2nd secret chest all you have to do is deposit chalice before door closes and it stays open. You don’t have to make it to the room.

Pray to the LFG God's you get a good team .. I played with 1new light warlock, dead every 15seconds, 2 players that died to barrier knights

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Hopefully these tips help, come stop by the stream!

For the 2nd encounter (bridge) just grab chalice and enlighten your totem ppl before you build bridge.

I have yet to even to do that Raid for my first time ever 😅 and kings fall as well 😅 lol

Would love to do the deepsight chest but every group I've been in either gets all anteatered ruining it or its in a glitch state where the third encounter can't start.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

oof, sorry to hear that

My group jumped onto the upper balcony during dps for Ir Yut and we decided to have some fun and use whisper and we 1 phased 😂

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Totally! But remember, you're probably more skilled players - YOu can one phase Ir Yut with tons of weapons, but everyone needs to have thumbs, LOL. That's why I posted the pinned comment earlier

for the thrallway, my team just had someone preserve the chalice before the door closed, we didn't have to have someone race to get it. once the chalice was in the ads despawn and the doors opened.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Yep, I could have been clearer on this, so I posted a video at that time marker, and wrote “deposit chalice” as well. It’s a good call out!

The way my team did bridge was we had 2 people each side on the bridge minus the middle that had 1 and we had me tamimg the chalice to everyone so id grab chalice run it over to right aide pass to one guy on right then they get enlightened then they pass it to the other guy on roght then i bring it iver to left and mid and repeat till everyone enlightend then juat continue as normal 😊

0:44 the only problem with not using strongholds is that, crota will have a chance to beam you and or teammates while your trading the buffs (its happened to me so many times, teammates will be shooting him in the back and he will either rush over to me and slam me killing me, or shoot at me which causes me to run off and get shot by an oger a few seconds after they spawn, or a wizard)

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

That's probably because you're just standing there waiting to take buffs, instead of hiding under the Crota-Road, like I said in the video. You should only hop into the light at the moment you need to take. HOWEVER, this is a good case to use Lament - to block damage from Crota.

@yamiliashirosia

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra yeah I go over to it the moment I need to swap it, and like I said, he targets me every time, but I do agree yes lament is good for blocking damage even without the exotic but it can only do so much when your already going to trade it, half HP, and everything attacks you, which has happened xd

1 phased Ir Yut with Xenophage yesterday, it took a few attempts and setup optimisation but Xeno is the way

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Xeno with Titans (Actium) or Warlocks (Rain of Fire) is actually really nice!

@KingSkinny-ww2pl

10 ай бұрын

@TheManoDestra we had 2 well locks using Rain of Fire, a Tether Hunter using Divinity, 2 Strand Warlocks using the grenade fragment to reload and a Solar titan using the super hammer exotic arms. Enlightened 5 people before starting the encounter (grabbing buff through the ceiling) so we had 2 left to use for dps. All using solar surges, loaders, reserves and powerful friends Edit: in hindsight, the Titan should have been on Div so Hunter could dodge reload Xeno

with Divinty, we were able to one phase using Leviathans Breathe with catalyst and sleeper stimulant (on normal)

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

pinned comment.

We struggled on bridge for a good hour maybe two and then we tried the all enlighten Strat and it was I think 2 tries

My team is almost done. We just have two encounters left. We just got really tired cus It was 3 hourd in and 2am. But we even made a discord. I've never been with a more dedicated Lfg team honestly.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

I hope these tips help you out! Get that Week 1 Clear!!!

Actually the thrallway, you dont have to run for the door, simply have chalice and bank it, that stops the door

Melt Ir Yut in one phase using a Briars Contempt with surounded :D

So unlike D1 you don't have to rush to get someone into the secret chest room after bridge all you have to do is dunk the chalice before it fully closes then it will open back up .

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Correct! I didn’t word it perfectly, but posted a pinned vid to show y’all how to do it

For stronghold, just use it during ad clear and then swap it to Pyrogale for DPS phase. It's one click. Syntho-bonk hammer titan should also swap to pyrogale for DPS phase (if they aren't doing hammer stun).

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

You lose out on damage on the swap. I think a ton of you are forgetting that everyone knows that Hotswapping is now a basic function that everyone does. But that wasn't the point... The point is that the strat is UNNECESSARY. There's 0 reason to use it. We did the tractor method on CONTEST CHALLENGE, and basically 2 phased Crota then. Now it's a One-Phase, as long as everyone has their poop in a group. One way to not have your stuff together is to waste time switching from unnecessary strongholds, when you should just be doing damage. Also, talk to console folks about how long it might take to switch gear out. (Even to load into some console menus takes an inordinate amount of time) Lament, there is a case for, since you can swap out the Chalice and block Crota, the only point I was making there is that you can be more consistent with your F Guillotine shots if you are bad at Lament.

@Lancelot.R

10 ай бұрын

You don't swap during damage phase. you swap right before. Plenty of time as people are grouping up. Just because something works for your group doesn't mean it will just work for others. I have friends who get melted by Crota and need the crutch. Switching exotic arm pieces is easier than finding good friends. @@TheManoDestra

My fireteam was stuck on the FIRST ENCOUNTER for 2 hours the day after contest mode ended LOL

I’ve taught multiple groups that way of doing Bridge. Makes is crazy easy!! The rest of the tips are all things I have been doing. Should have included grabbing the chalice before Ir Yut to get 5 people enlightened before the encounter starts.

@helpfulhow-tos

10 ай бұрын

Excuse me run that second part by me?

@anonymoose219

10 ай бұрын

​@helpfulhow-tos you can grab the chalice that's upstairs in the locked room through the ceiling of the spawn area, if you move just close enough to pick it up but don't trigger the encounter you can give enlighten to 5 people then kill the last guy to put the chalice back and it doesn't cost a res

@helpfulhow-tos

10 ай бұрын

@anonymoose219 wow that's nuts thanks

@AlphaNOmegaX

10 ай бұрын

​@@anonymoose219it kept glitching out for our team using that strategy later in the encounter when trying to get witches

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

I didn't necessarily want to include that, in case if Bungie decides to patch it. But, that is a good tip!

Save one boomer night ready to kill and no adds spawn down below of you’re struggling. We did that on contest mode, made it considerably less hectic.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Interesting. We did our Contest Challenge clear and just always killed boomers on the right. Dummy Easy!

So for the bridge thing once we swap off the chalice, we go straight to one of the other plates instead of speeding up the bridge?

Lament does substantially more damage than falling guillotine you just have to do the damage cycle in a very specific way. Also heavy attack from mid air it has more aggressive tracking.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Again, I think a LOT of commenters here are missing the point and conflating EASY with BEST --- In my multiple challenge clears on Crota, we used Lament, basically for the survivability, but we found with as much as he moved around, that Lament tracking was HIGHLY inconsistent. For players who are not super experienced, using Falling Guillotine or other swords is EASIER (notice I didn't say BEST) to use. It's literally hack and slash. Heavy Attack. Just making sure you get the context, thanks for watching!

@axffxa3792

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra totally makes more sense!

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

@@axffxa3792 Awesome, glad to hear

@maxd2_

10 ай бұрын

​@@TheManoDestraCapping to 60 fps gives consistent sword tracking

@blufferoniandcheese3628

10 ай бұрын

well i mean, if you combo correctly with guillotine and have 2x lucent blade, you only need 10 light attacks for max damage and then every heavy attack costs 1 ammo

We got the 1 phase normal ir yut using divinity x thunderlord/retrofit with 3 surge mods lol

There seems to be a weird interaction that can happen with Ir Yut and 5 thunderlords. My team would get her well past her health gate with a few seconds remaining, but we would wipe anyways. This happened many times during contest and it only happened with thunderlord, not sure what was causing it.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Will have to check that out!

Risk runner and feedback gauntlets for arc titans was easy mode on contest in the lanterns. Might be a bit overkill for normal mode though?? 🤷‍♂️

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

It is but this video is for anyone struggling in normal. These are supposed to be easy strats, not best in slot strats that seems to be a thing that a lot of people are missing in the comments. It’s turn off brain mode, and just survive.

Invis heart shadow with Catalyst basically negates the slow buff in the abyss

What i do as stronghold titan is before we break his shield i swap to pryogale

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

ou can do that, but it's a waste of DPS

Hopefully more people watch tips like these I joined an LFG group that wanted to eager edge through the abyss and they yelled at three people that joined and said “ we can’t babysit you guys through the mechanics” I found another group that wasn’t so dumb and beat the raid in about 54 mins for my second clear

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Glad the tips helped!

@spymaster1

10 ай бұрын

Dear god don’t. I’m sorry. Some are helpful but if I meet lfgs using thunderlord on ir yut I’m leaving lol

If u wanna do better in it yut, get briars contempt with recon surrounded, it’s hands down the best damage I saw through multiple groups on day 1, way better than even thunder lord and arguably easier to use

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

That's not really a tip that makes sense - This is really for people who are struggling to raid, and may not have time to do multiple. There are good options right out of the box, like Sleeper/Levi's Breath. Thunderlord is literally just for folks who really struggle with hitting shots. That's all

@ThriveOnEgo_

10 ай бұрын

rewind rounds is better since you dont need to reload

@megatallica100

10 ай бұрын

@@ThriveOnEgo_ I don’t usually reload either, my super at the end of the recon clip usually fills enough for the rest of the phase, so it would be yeah if that were an issue

@megatallica100

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra briars doubles your examples

@megatallica100

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra this is literally the only use for this gun in the entire game, I get why people wouldn’t want it, all I’m saying is you wanna be at top of damage by up to double the next highest, get this gun.

Lament still would be a better option considering it heals you

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Now that contest is over, (and also that most people put a well down) generally you don't need that healing. F. Guillotine is easier to use, but if you can hit your shots, totally use Lament.

@dvb8637

10 ай бұрын

Yep plus that is does way way more damage then fallen guillotine. I love his tips but he was wrong on that part. Lament is the way better option.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

DId you read my last comment? I think you missed it@@dvb8637

I made the mistake of using Eager Edge in that encounter. Lol. Also, for the Crota encounter, another spot you can use to hide is where you can put the chalice to Preserve it.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

LOL happened to some in our group as well. Thanks for watching!

@RedJackz

10 ай бұрын

Another place is literally the rock formation on the right and left sides of the main platform between the towers where the boomers are. Nothing in melee can hit you and when you're ready to go up, just jump up.

I will always use Lament against Crota cause of the fact that it doesn’t devour my ammo so fast as Guillotine and it still do crazy dmg, combined with a good dmg super I do about 6mio dmg against him

@blufferoniandcheese3628

10 ай бұрын

if you're having ammo issues with guillotine, you aren't using it right. equip 2 lucent blade armor mods, then use this combo: 5x light attacks, heavy, 5x light attacks, heavy until ammo is gone. with lucent blades and whirlwind blade, your heavy will do maximum damage and cost 1 ammo per use

@potatoeradicator803

10 ай бұрын

​@@blufferoniandcheese3628heavy attacks do not consume 1 ammo anymore

@__NORO__

10 ай бұрын

@@blufferoniandcheese3628 a heavy attack cost around 6 ammo as far as I remember, they nerfed guillotine a few years ago, 5x lights and 1x heavy is 11 ammo so this combo works around 6 times, every time I one phased Crota with Guillotine I didn’t have any ammo for this weapon in his final stand but with Lament I got easily 10-20 ammo left

@MetroidPurples

10 ай бұрын

6 million with a damage super for 2 phases is not that good lol. I did 6.6 in 2 phases no damage super lmao

@__NORO__

10 ай бұрын

@@MetroidPurples we one phased him and it was more then 6mio dmg I just said ,,round about”

Hey, Mano, are there any swords that can sub out for Falling Guillotine? Like Thin Precipice or Hero of Ages?

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY - you can still use lament, it's just not easy/consistent all the time. Bequest is a good choice as well with Relentless Strikes! (Deep Stone Crypt Sword)

@SupermanNew52

10 ай бұрын

Two other vortex frames. You can craft Death's Razor if you're on Warlock and there's also Razor's Edge, the Iron Banner sword. I'd go with crafting Thin Precipice or Death's Razor for the enhanced perks.

I bait him with strongholds, and hotswap to pyrogale during dps.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Not everyone has that option, and switching to loadouts can lessen damage. Especially for console players. It’s a big oof for them to switch like that

damn, should've given an epilepsy warning for the thunderlord + div cut. i felt like i was going blind LOL

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

DIdn't even think about it, but Imma bout to do some DPS/One Phase Videos, so that's a good idea, actually!

Thank you!

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Linears with triple tap and firing line will knock her health to 3/4 with well and cuirass titans

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Sleepers will 1 Phase, as will Levi's Breath :)

A titan with burning hammer ( or whatever the name is) can stunlock crots after shield is broken. Just use heavy from the super.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

This is true, but then you're missing out on damage from that person using their super, INSTEAD of DPS.

1:42 u just need to put the baf on pedestal before the door to the secret chest closes

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

YES! Check the pinned video at the timestamp - I didn't include that in my script. Thank you.

So what’s wrong with strongholds? I keep his agro on me the whole encounter with strongholds ( so the other 5 do the chalice mechanic without Crota ever going near them or shooting them) and the moment my team goes to take him down I switch to the new burning Maul gloves. No downtime or loss of DPS

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

It's a waste of time. Can just hit with Tractor, and distract, and instant DPS. I'd invite you to rewatch it, just to see how optimized it is!

@MrMaherle

10 ай бұрын

I’m more speaking of the whole part of the fight prior to breaking his shield. You commented saying that if he is on the road and you are on the stairs he won’t shoot, but why restrict your team to always being on the stairs (assuming Crota isn’t directly infront of them) when you can just take 3 seconds to swap to a damage exotic. Same as how teams used HOIL then swapped to cuirass for dps, an encounter exotic then a dps exotic the tried and true formula of destiny 2 😂

@MrMaherle

10 ай бұрын

My only argument is that you point out stronghold is bad because it’s not a damage exotic but people have been doing that for years and just swap during dps. Crota makes it even easier cause the dps only starts after shield break which gives time to exotic swap while your team breaks the shield

@caveman2480

10 ай бұрын

​@TheManoDestra I invite you to rewatch your own video. You talk about cheese spots to hide from crota and the boomers but hey you don't need those at all if he isn't in the fight. Strongholds also allow crota to be baited away from the exchange zones up top. I think that no strongholds is just an elitist BS take my guy. There is not a siglngle loss of dps in that encounter especially if you are going to 2 phase him anyway. And for a guy that's going to suggest thunderlord for the Witch you have no place to talk about dps loss.

theres a bug out right now that guarantees an essence of the oversoul per clear of ir yut would you do a video on it?

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

This is not true. We did multiple runs of the raid tonight and it was still RnG

Crota's road? Missed opportunity to say Croad.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Stop it. LOL

@Midnyte_Rage

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra You can't make me! lol

I always use falling guillotine in

Does any of the d1 tricks still work

thunderlord is a terrible choice for Ir yut. Since there is a divinity bubble, you can use any much better weapons such as ALL linear FR. The best weapon that I tried was Leviathan's breath (with catalyst). Easy 1 phase in 20 seconds.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Check the pinned comment, I think you missed it in your haste to post a comment.

Ir yut gets baked by pretty much everything. She’s very weak so saying thunderlord gets a 2 phase is expected. Rockets 1 phase if u hit shots and use a tractor instead of div and have god roll rockets

Question: after you get a weapon drop is it possible to buy the same weapon at the end for spoils and then turn it into a red border weapon?

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, NO. They must be a unique drop

@CJSTRO12

10 ай бұрын

Yes you can with the harmonizers from the season pass. But with raid weapons you also have to spend 15 spoils

Question on the bridge, In order to hold the bridge from the away side 3 sword bearers need to be killed correct? Or how were you able to have only 3 people in the away side (the chalice guy, and 2 swords)?

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

NO, you just need people on the away side to hold plates on THAT side. It has NOTHING to do with Swords/Chalice. (So one on center plate, 2 on the annihalitor totems) That's all that's required to build the bridge without dying.

@andresflorespineda6286

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra ill try it then because I attempted to do that yesterday and but the totems on the home side were still active, maybe our timinh was wrong, thanks!

@decimator1991

10 ай бұрын

@@andresflorespineda6286 That means someone was still standing on the center plate of the home side, just have to get off of it.

@andresflorespineda6286

10 ай бұрын

@@decimator1991 ohhhhhh there we go thanks for the clarification

Yay

Haven't used swords much yet - I have lament but prefer other exotics - what is the ideal roll for FG?

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Relentless strikes and Whirlwind, however if you can hit your combo with laments, it IS still better. The problem is that some people are not great at hitting their combos.

That zero second Oversoul thing happened on my first clear and let me tell you it was a roller-coaster of emotions.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Us too LOL, thanks for watching!

So if some one had the div on and every one else had Thunder lords 🤔 could that kill her even faster

A better weapon to use on Ir Yut: Leviathan's Breath (and Sleeper Simulant) both can one phase her

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Negative, Levi's was good ONLY if you have the catalyst, and many DONT(used it on Challenge Clear on Day 1) After seeing Thunderlord? YIKES, so much easier. If I was doing a 3-man, I'd definitely use Levi's. But so many people struggle to use bows, it's just so much easier to T-Lord. And it one phases.... on CONTEST. I basically posted the rationale for this in the pinned comment. I'll try sleeper, but with the nerfs to Linears, it might be the only choice. Will test and get back to you.

@Isaac.cariani

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestrasleeper didn't get the nerfs which is why it's still pretty good

@Noodles-The-Hunter-Vanguard

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestraThunderlord is good on him and Crota or just the wizard?

@fatmilf1498

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestrawhat’s negative? Both can one phase that’s indisputable

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

@@Noodles-The-Hunter-Vanguard It's EASY (not best) on Ir Yut, Crota should be swords for DPS. Lament is great but is INCONSISTENT for inexperienced players. F. Guillotine is easy mode.

Is there a way to keep Banner of War active if you are a Swordsman? I try to keep it up as much as possible trying to save it for Crota but it keeping going away even when my teammates try to help keep it up. I guess the adds in the middle don't really help either since we clear them all in order to keep ourselves safe

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

That’s really why I have anyone who is running Banner of war take care of the boomers, or maybe a stray wizard that is out. You only really need it or to get healing in case if he doesn’t get down right away.

You can one phase ir yut pretty well.

I kinda miss special weapons being viable for damage during the anarchy meta.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

I actually use a Vorpal Cartesian that rips. I LOVE IT

One tip I’d recommend for Crota, before DPS, have everyone group up where the rally banner is. Crota will come towards you and it puts DPS far enough from the respawning boomers.

@Kealoras

10 ай бұрын

Except if he’s on the plate sometimes he’ll float and mess up lament combos or push people into a wall and kill them

@garrettdollar

10 ай бұрын

@@Kealoras I’ve only done 6 clears as of Tuesday, but I haven’t seen that happen. I’ve killed him 5 times near the rally flag. I have seen boomers nuke the whole group when doing DPS by the oversoul a bunch.

@Kealoras

10 ай бұрын

@@garrettdollar as of Wednesday I have 18 clears so I don’t think we can compare experience

@garrettdollar

10 ай бұрын

Congrats on your 18 clears@@Kealoras! I will continue to get my easy LFG clears DPS'ing on the plates away from boomers. Take care then, bye bye now.

@Kealoras

10 ай бұрын

@@garrettdollar lmao what a clown 😂

If you use Lament correctly, it does more damage than Falling Guillotine.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Yes, but that wasn't the point, check the pinned comment.

grand overture is better than thunderlord, it just requires people to know how to activate alternative fire on a gun

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Haven't tried overture - BUT - the point is to make a tip for people who are struggling - If they struggle with hitting shots, then activating alternative fire might be tricky too. Sleeper is pretty nice though, NGL

The best dps sword is crown splitter for titans. If you jump for the first heavy slam you can do a second heavy attack right after. Does way more damage than either lament or guillotine.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Gonna try a Full Titan Run Tomorrow for a Simple One phase! (Plus PyroGALE) Should be fun!

The reason I think Lament is still the go-to with Crota is: it provides moderate survivability with melee hits. It’s a quest exotic, so there’s no reason not to have it. Falling Guillotine hasn’t been in the game as a drop for over two years now, so not everyone is going to have one-let alone a decent roll. Not everyone bought one from Banshee. Outside of that, I’m sure Guillotine has the ease of use argument. I just think with a little practice anyone can casually drop 5 million damage on Crota with basic Lament work.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

That's exactly the point - Again, like a few people on the video, there's a conflation of the word "BEST" with "EASY" Lament is tricky for some people to use and actually HIT Crota. Yes, it provides more Damage, but ONLY IF YOU HIT IT. The Ease of Use Argument is the exact reason for this video. It's not "18 BEST TIPS" It's "18 EASY TIPS" For Day One Contest Challenge? Totally used Lament.... but I've been using Lament since Beyond Light for Solo Flawless activities. Some, might not be so good. However, Lament is great out of the box, and it's still a good choice. Lament is just way more consistent. That's all. Thanks for watching, and appreciate you dropping a comment.

@thebygoneking

10 ай бұрын

My biggest point isn’t laments use, it’s accessibility. Everyone has/can have lament in short time. Not everyone can get Guillotine.

@thatguybgreen

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestradid a run where 4 of us were using Lament and 2 guys were using the conditional + guillotine combo and they out damaged us by 1-2 million

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

@@thatguybgreen you’re still missing the point - it’s ease of use. Hell, bequest single hits can generally take out crota in 1 phase - but that’s not the point - it’s about what is easier to use/more consistent. On my day 1 challenge/contest clears, we totally used lament - but we all know how to hit our shots. It’s specifically designed for folks who were struggling after contest was over.

@thatguybgreen

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra think you gotta read again. I was agreeing with your point. “OUR” laments were out damaged by people using Guillotine.

The whole point of stronghold is keeping Crota busy so he doesn't snipe people. Super great strat.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

The whole point is that you don't need it. He can't attack you if you're on the stairs and he's on the road. You're missing out on damage/debuff/distraction. It's Goated. Stronghold is not really great

@RedJackz

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra I understand that concept but can't you just swap the item when it's damage phase? When talking about initiating the damage phase, it's usually the swordbearer player that goes in first anyways.

@mikeydubs_tv

10 ай бұрын

giving LFG too much credit. when more people learn maybe!

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

@@mikeydubs_tv We pulled 4 people from LFG, and did Contest and Challenge Mode on Day 1. It's just a mixed bag. Sometimes, people are great, sometimes, they need help.

@blufferoniandcheese3628

10 ай бұрын

during contest mode, crota was a problem. i did it again last night, and tanked a wizard and crota for like 3 seconds without dying. if you have 10 resil, he genuinely isn't a problem

Sleepy or leviathans breathe both with cat. Easy one phase on ir yut.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Pinned comment.

Me, an avid sword enjoyer, when youtubers finally start picking up in them for endgame content (this will cause bungie to ruin my exotic) 😢

Still can't get a team to do it with

1:45 i had problems cause all the big youtubers forgot to mention you can bank the chalice .... it pissed me off, THATT NONE OF THEM SHOWED WHERE TO PUT IT. fallout showed tho, cause hes a real G. but not datto.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

I have it in the pinned video. Yeah you need to deposit the chalice. But if you're running through, you shouldn't be depositing anyway.

My team 1 phased ir yut- 5 thunders 1 div

Thunderlord is easy and consistent for ir yut true. But if your team is feeling it and are absolute gamers both acrius or izi rocket swaps with one or two damage supers is a solid one phase. But I dont hate thunderlord either if you dont have anything else

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Sleeper actually looks to be the play. I appreciate you understanding the context of your vid. A lot of folks conflate EASY with BEST. We did Levi’s breath on challenge contest for sure

Leviathans breath is a much better weapon for Ir Yut

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Sleeper is better, check the pinned comment LOL

Bruhh i got over 7million damage in 2 damages phases with lament+2 surge mods+3 of them sword mods

I understand the point of guillotine over lament cause it is EASIER, but I’d still recommend lament cause crota still destroys wells and can kill fairly easy without a form of healing plus when you are frequently using lament you’ll eventually teach yourself how to use it in a more efficient way then guillotine

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

We basically one phased him using a combination of Laments and FGs. There's something about multiple laments that causes him to "bounce" and cause some tracking issues. I wonder if using 1 or 2 FGs can keep him on the ground easier. Again, the point is EASE OF USE, that's why the video is named "EASY TIPS" instead of BEST IN SLOT TIPS. It's for people who haven't already figured out and are struggling to get it done.

@GunisBowman

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra you just need a burning maul titan spamming heavy attack, that stun locks him in place until the super is up. I think it’s also fair to use a guillotine with witherhoard cause that probably will do more damage however only one person can benefit from that so you can’t have multiple people using it. And I get that you said EASY over BEST, I acknowledged that in my comment. But sometimes if you want that easier one phase you have to use the best in slot weapon in which case I advised that a player should use lament over guillotine and practice with it

@GunisBowman

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra and also having a stronghold titan is still good not because it keeps him in the typical spot you’d see for damage but because it makes it much easier for the other 5 players passing around the relic and taking out the majors. But I do agree with the tractor user jumping off the side to grab crotas attention so the sword bearers can get easy hits

@GunisBowman

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra other then that there are some great tips

Like I keep telling Bungie they need to add multi-player to Raids like they have for nightfall and other stuff 😂

For Ir Yut, use Leviathan's Breath especially with catty. It is literally a free one phase with Div

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Check the pinned comment please!

@fatmilf1498

10 ай бұрын

Yup, levi breath w/catalyst is easy one phase

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

​@@fatmilf1498 it is, check the pinned comment. I think a lot of you are conflating EASY with BEST. They are 2 separate things. The goal of this is to show players WHO ARE STRUGGLING with what they should do. T-Lord has a much lower skill requirement than Levi's Breath. That's the point.

@fatmilf1498

10 ай бұрын

@@TheManoDestra 2 phasing is objectively harder than 1 phasing. And it’s really hard to miss leviathian’s breath on a div bubble

Aztecross Intro

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

His is a 3D animation, with much much different colors. Mine is “warp speed” animation. We both got ours done through GetReckt around the same time! I’m glad you think it’s up with his though :)

I've been hitting 7 million damage easily with lament

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

oh yeah, me too! Used it on Day 1 Contest and CHALLENGE Clears - Again, it's more about HITTING YOUR SHOTS - Some people just struggle with the combo on Lament, and so to be able to spin-to-win (F. Guillotine) is easier. It also seems that you can keep him on the ground better if you have a a few on F. Guillotine and the rest on Lament, it keeps him from moving around a ton. (Better than the stun lock titan super option)

Nobody listens to me about my falling guillotine

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Its fine as long as everyone can hit their combos. If they can't then the loss of damage is on them! If they can hit it, then more power to them!

did u now you can switch gountlets from strongholds to pyrogale

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Yes, but you lose lots of damage time, and it’s a giant waste of time to do it. If you play on Console, which a vast majority of the population of Destiny 2 players do, sometimes switching between different pieces of gear, and loading up the menu, can take a while. And you don’t even need to do it. If it wasn’t needed on contest, and it wasn’t needed on challenge either.

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

@@KurtisRupnow Except, you're missing out on a HUGE amount of damage. LOL It is a 2 phase, but again, some people struggle. The idea is to make it as easy as possible. Why do you want to do something that is objectively worse, as a strat, that puts your team in more danger, and gets your less damage? It really doesn't make sense. Just simple - Tractor Cannon, boom. Done.

Instead of using thunderlord for ir yut just use leviathans breath, easy one phase

@TheManoDestra

10 ай бұрын

Check the pinned comment.