This whole thing makes Cronkite sound awesome. How has this “tarnished” his legacy? Seems like it strengthened it.

@markwood3389

Жыл бұрын

Because they’re trying to sell a book.

The title of this video *is the very reason* that people don’t trust modern news sources, man. We’re witnessing it in real time. Cronkite and his contemporaries were newsmen. They dealt in facts, reporting and integrity…to the point where some families considered Cronkite an unofficial member. It was a different time, yes. There were far fewer sources and far fewer people on the air but it’s the overall approach. We’ll never have another Walter Cronkite. The media landscape has just gotten too big. But is it ENTIRELY impossible to return some semblance of dignity and objectivity to news reporting?

Cronkite is a legend. Nobody will remember any of these clowns.

And exactly how is Walter Cronkite's reputation tarnished? That he changed his mind when confronted with the actual facts of a losing war? That he realized that Lyndon Johnson was pushing the war for delusional and political reasons and that he had to go? The part about filming his facial expressions didn't bother me. In the "old days" they only used one camera, so they had to film Cronkite later and edit it into the whole film. They still do it today, it's how they make movies for cripe sakes!

@nlb4697

10 ай бұрын

right not to mention he then says others were doing it too back in the day as fairly common practice,,,, OH AND BY THE WAY CAN YOU BUY MY BOOK I NEED THE MONEY, the contrasts of yesteryear and todays,,, ummm so called journalists

Give me a Cronkite any day over the sordid pretenders of today!

@patricksullivan7140

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. CNN talking about Cronkites legacy being tarnished. Lmao. Boy Howdy this didn't age well.

@gardensofthegods

5 ай бұрын

​@@patricksullivan7140I agree with you and hahaha I really like the way you said boy howdy ... that really tickled me .

Cronkite was and is a legend

Walter Cronkite was a Great 😃👍 Newsman, Nothing Tarshned about him.

The newsman keeps trying to interrupt and push a narrative onto the guy.

@pietertinbergen2840

2 жыл бұрын

Very impolite indeed. I stopped watching. Do another job if you are incapable.

This is rich. Howard Kurtz calls Cronkite “unconscionable” because he filmed some after the fact reaction shots. Meanwhile holier-than-thou high priest of good journalism Howard Kurtz later made his longtime journalistic home at (checks notes) Fox News, that paragon of journalistic ethics, where he regularly carried water for the Murdochs for a hefty paycheck. But yes, wag your finger at the great Walter Cronkite. What a joke!

"Tarnished legacy?" You must be kidding me. The most trusted man in America. I miss him.

This type of editing to an interview is something every single anchor and every network does, so there’s nothing there to tarnish his legacy. There was nothing wrong with this.

@-danR

2 жыл бұрын

They did point out that it was common practice; but with a dying president a lot more... a _lot_ more gravitas and formality was called for. And that would be particularly true for that time. That said, it was far below the threshold of what could be claimed to be a tarnishable moment.

Walter went into Operation Market Garden ( 17 September1944 in an assult glider. The Glider came under intense fire, and as he crawled away the troops started to follow him thinking he was the commander. This is documented in the book " A Bridge Too Far" by Cornelus Ryan who also wrote, " The Longest Day" ( 6 June 1944), and "The Last Battle" ( Battle of Berlin). To tarnish his life at this point? What is the reason? No one is perfect, but one must look at the "body" of work of one's life. Walter was ACES!

@hoosier120

2 жыл бұрын

Well said my friend

@genegarren833

9 ай бұрын

@deagleninjaNo one is perfect. Overall I lived through his years and along with other great reporters of his time, I still respect him!

Quit trying to make drama where there isn’t any.

@brettrobinson2901

2 жыл бұрын

No!!!....if there isn't any drama..and things are too calm & quiet...one must WHIP IT UP!

What a lot of nonsense. That technique of reaction shots filmed separately is one of the oldest and most common techniques in news reporting. It is not "verbotten." It can literally be found in nearly every news report or interview. Don't believe me, check it out for yourself.

@Maestrohbill

5 жыл бұрын

60 Minutes has done this for years.

@thecardsaysmoops

5 жыл бұрын

Reaction shots or 're-asks' have been a staple of news reporting since TV news reporting began. I know. I did it for 40 years.

@-danR

2 жыл бұрын

I'm familiar with them, and they did point it out as a practice, but I think the point here--and it was alluded to--was that it was inappropriate in the _level_ of incongruent choice of reaction shots with respect to a dying former president. It was not your standard interview. 10 days later LBJ was dead.

I grew up with Walter Cronkite on TV and you said you can't do this anymore. That's because nobody at CNN comes near what Walter Cronkite brought to news reporting. Not the crap and stupidity of just arguing about other news agencies or other people and trying to give your opinion. Most people dont want your opinion. how about just report the news. You mostly dont know how but you do know how to spew jung out of you mouth

Cronkite was honest about the tet offensive (where US was seen to have no control all across the 50 top cities in vietnam) when politicians and generals were lying about it and termed it a “victory”. In fact all the confidence anericans has been falsely given from 1962-68. You cannot understand opposition to vietnam war unless you ubderstand tet and how it laid bare the false propaganda the politcians and generals had spread in order to justify getting 1/2million troops bogged down there. All at one moment we realized the poloticians had been lying to us, as cronkite and all thinking Americans could clearly see that tet was an incredible humiliation of thr American “experts” by the vietcong and nva.

@GilmerJohn

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Tet-68 was a victory. It essentially destroyed the VC. After that, the military burden was carried by the NVA. It permitted the "Vietnamization" of the war which would have succeeded had not the Congress pulled the plug with the encouragement of "Uncle Walter."

CNN, I know this is many years since this video was posted. But the subject is Douglas Brinkley, not David Brinkley.

@thecardsaysmoops

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I actually was interested in this video because I couldn't believe DAVID Brinkley would talk ill of Cronkite. I can't believe CNN hasn't corrected this error in seven years.

@brianarbenz7206

4 жыл бұрын

8 years later, and CNN still hasn't corrected such a grievous error! They certainly shouldn't be the most trusted!

@brettrobinson2901

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianarbenz7206 CNN will get IT right eventually....TRUST 'EM!

@gardensofthegods

5 ай бұрын

Well I have to wonder if he's actually related to David Brinkley somehow ... I'm certain I'm not the only one who has wandered about this . I guess I'll have to try to look it up sometime

There's an editor mistake that says *"David"* Brinkley and not Douglas Brinkley. *Not sure if it's possible to go to the KZread Studio for you guys to fix that tiny problem.*

10 year anniversary of CNN's typo (that still hasn't been corrected) of this being David Brinkley and not his son Douglas Brinkley. This is CNN. In Walter Cronkite's voice: And that's the way it is July 16, 2022.

@frankprovasek5394

4 ай бұрын

Douglas Brinkley is not related to David Brinkley

Hes a legend in news broadcast history❤

Walter Cronkite was without a doubt the all time greatest and absolutely best in the business and there has never been nor will there ever be anyone better than the legendary Water Cronkite!!!!

Screw cnn for trying to tarnish this man's reputation. At least he had soem class, unlike this anchor

That's because the people trusted him unlike today , with your one sided news networks who favor and pick there own presidential candidate .

1. I just finished the book. It does not tarnish his legacy. It's honest and doesn't whitewash him or do any kind of hero worship. It shows that he was human and fallible, but overall, I came away with a very favorable view of Watler. 2. "David Brinkley talks with Howard Kurtz". 11 years later, and CNN has not corrected this. The author is Douglas Brinkley, no relation to David that I can tell. CNN has only tarnished themself here.

Every reporter or journalist is going to have people that don’t like their positions on certain topics or how they handled certain people etc… and that’s the way it is.

@gardensofthegods

5 ай бұрын

I really like how you added Cronkite's own words at the end .

Propaganda? That's you're middle name. Another character assassin who waits until the dead can't defend themselves.

The only "newsman" in this video who's going to leave a tarnished legacy is Howard Kurtz.

ok so you're saying Cronkite had amassed a huge following during the years of big time news coming to age and the rules weren't totally clear about reporting stories, but Cronkite was passionate about America and told the truth about how disgusting VNM war really was as was pretty much the whole country,,, OH AND BY THE WAY I'M WRITING A BOOK ABOUT CRONKITE SO I GOTTA MAKE SOME PARTS REALLY SENSATIONAL, SO DON'T FORGET TO BUY MY BOOK OK I REALLY NEED THE MONEY

Always considered him a talking head rather than a journalist

Sure now that Cronkite is dead this comes out It's messed up

@brettrobinson2901

2 жыл бұрын

@SCW So?

Speaking of unethical: CLICKBAIT HEADLINE. This is such a minor thing I’m surprised Brinkley even mentioned it. Brinkley’s father, with Chet Huntley, were Cronkite’s direct competitors for a decade. Maybe the younger Brinkley is a tad biased.

1:02 "big Johnson" Lol!😂😂😂

Wrong..Cronkite had much more professional integrity and neutrality than any anchor today..period

I accidentally stumbled onto CNN because they are gossiping about MR. CRONKITE.

neither of you could tie Walter's shoes. what a complete waste of bandwidth this was.

So true. Fortunately, CNN is a great example of journalistic ethics having nothing to do with being morally compelled to do the right thing. The last thing journalism needs is someone in journalism not to support a war and to, in fact, say it can't be won. Why, that would be almost as bad as supporting universal healthcare simply because it is the right thing to do. No, journalistic objectivity requires not reporting anything that the sponsors don't want discussed, because, at the end of the day, they are the bosses.

@mangokane11

Жыл бұрын

I feel your sarcasm and disappointment thoroughly. I like that your reviewing history of msm. I don't know at what depth. But whatever the depth, it's more than most. I appreciate you!

@timward3116

Жыл бұрын

@@mangokane11 Hi Bryson. Thank you very much for recognizing the sarcasm and not thinking I actually support the mainstream news people nowadays. I had to be very careful with my wording to ensure that my comment wasn't shadow banned. Sigh. I am amazed (though not surprised) at the weight the mainstream media gives to some relatively small issues and its total avoidance (or misreporting) of major ones. It truly is as though they live in a different country or on a different planet. This is not the country I grew up in, even though the we've always had plenty of problems.

@mangokane11

Жыл бұрын

@@timward3116 I grew up in the 80's... blissfully ignorant until I TURNED 40 YEARS OLD! A fact I'm embarrassed but honest about. I blame myself at the same time acknowledging how my arrogant ignorance was something I learned and grew up with. I understand now that we as citizens of the United States of America are responsible for the current status of our country and responsible for changing it for the better. All of government has been infiltrated and manipulated to weaken the power of the people. It very concerning...

@timward3116

Жыл бұрын

@@mangokane11 You are WAY too hard on yourself, though. You likely could not have done anything, anyway. Democracy was always a shell game here. The window of opportunity was locked before, but it is now bricked up completely. Voters in Alaska (pop. 600,000) have about 80 times the voting power of a voter in California (pop. 40,000,000) in Senate elections. Small states rule, and their politicians easily bought. By design, the Electoral College is similarly unbalanced. The bar is set so high for independent candidate petition signatures that independents are completely ruled out unless they are billionaires. And the parties work together to ensure there are no challenges from non-wealthy independents. Even at the Democratic Party has super delegates chosen by party leadership to ensure that the "correct" presidential candidate is nominated. If popular legislation accidentally gets a majority of votes, there is always the fillibuster. That's why it doesn't matter what party actually wins. Each party is correct on 50% of the issues and wrong on the other 50%, thus forcing us to always vote against our own interests. Only the incorrect positions ever get implemented. Even amendments to the Constitution require the politicians' approval, so we can't fix the Constitution to reform the system that benefit THEM, not us. And only a small number of corporations determine what what we see/hear/read. Even our phones can listen to normal conversations and transmit to government agencies. It's too late to do anything now. This ship is going down.

@mangokane11

Жыл бұрын

@@timward3116 thank you. Yes I am too hard on myself I suppose. I have to say, I'm thrilled with your over-all comprehension of politics and our government as it is today Every point you have made is the same as my own. Ive always lived in Hawaii. I would approach discussions, debates , and arguments with one basic problem with the electoral college. My vote should not be worth more than any individual persons vote regardless if where they live. We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal. Just not our votes. That approach is largely ineffectual. Lol. Look I haven't come across anyone who is honest about the reality we all live in until now. My appreciation and gratitude of your comprehension is more Than I can explain. I agree with your assessment... the point of no return has passed us by. The arrogant ignorance in this country is endemic and the only way to change this country for the betterment of our children's futures is the responsibility of each individual citizen. Uniting as one voice against our common enemy. Our government. I only say all that because I'm a gluten for punishment! I have no hopes for this ever happening. We are responsible for what it ss become. I try my best to understand many things and never dismiss perspectives. I have analyzed the pledge of allegiance and had gotten strong pushback from my conclusion of it. This definitely has played its part in our imprinted patriotism and and arrogant ignorance. The methodology is the problem not the pledge of allegiance in and of itself. Such as common core is. It's the methodology. At 5 years old I had no comprehension of allegiance or what it is to pledge my allegiance. Anyways excuse me. I'm just glad to come across another sane analytically enept person who can intelligently come to real conclusions. Uncomfortable and upsetting as they are!

It's Douglas Brinkley, not David. Would be great to edit this.

clinton news network isnt worth a drop of walters urin.

Very quaint by the "jounalistic standards" of 2023. Sounds more like Cronkite was a prophet of future American advocate media.

Cronkite pro vietnam war WW2 pro Federal government pro space age

How does he have tarnished legacy CNN everyone on both sides liked him.

Brinkley is a good writer… but this is a joke. And one doesn’t have to be “quite a liberal” to say or have said bad things about Nixon

Funny how cnn is talking about not getting involved

I watched Cronkite every night and for some reason trusted him. Now I know better, Question every thing.

@johnscanlon2598

2 жыл бұрын

And here you are watching CNN you fool

@mikeoveli1028

Жыл бұрын

Why do you know better?

@nlb4697

10 ай бұрын

but not question the moron writing a book years later, hmmm uh oh we got mess over here, john crapped himself once he realized his hypocrisy

i am trying to see the relevancy of revisiting Cronkite ...but i like finding out when a fake is a fake...there are many kinds of liberals...and i am one of them but i don't think that Cronkite and i belong to the same kind of liberal...he never denounced the Vietnam war for what it was...a waste of our resources, human or otherwise.

@TheNomadicview

6 жыл бұрын

I never thought of him as a liberal. I thought of him as a new reporter. Compared to Dan Rather during the Reagan years, Cronkite was definitely middle of the road to conservative.

4:46 isnt that why things are so shitty the 24/7 news cycle

I'm calling bull****.

2:00 journalism is still about propaganda :/

Wow, what a scoop! 🙄

What the fuck? Is this from his own son? Of course stuff like this happens, that's the news, but for his own son to come on tv and try to tarnish a historic legacy is reprehensible.

@frankprovasek5394

4 ай бұрын

@@sodoffbaldrick3038 Douglas Brinkley is not related to David Brinkley, which should have been mentioned

CNN is only slightly better than FOX.

@Brinkaskfavor

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly after this, they are the same, maybe cnn is even worse

Lol clickbait title

he said big johnson interview............

@kevinfitzgerald1010

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, a Beavis and Butthead moment.

Is this David Brinkley's son?

@adamredfield

5 жыл бұрын

Jody Tubb, No. Another historian, Alan Brinkley, is David Brinkley's son.

@thecardsaysmoops

5 жыл бұрын

No. No relation.

Disgusting slander.

RON PAUL 2012

@anonymousq9434

5 жыл бұрын

iwillspyonyou RONNIE PAUL HAHAHS WHAT A JOKE

@CrazyNormie3457

4 жыл бұрын

Ron Paul? Ok Boomer.

@alfx5432

4 жыл бұрын

That whimp.

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