Thank you Oldstuff620! Again of broadcast quality!

Thanks Oldstuff. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this.

I remember this episode! Poor Inga Hauser rest in peace beautiful angel! At 18 she literally just turned into an adult Still unsolved!💔😢

@pattymelt-go3fv

3 ай бұрын

I wish Crime watch wouldn't talk about the anonymous calls they receive. They are anonymous for a reason. They can figure out a way to refer to any anonymous calls they receive, without being so blatant. In some cases it would be easy for the killer to figure out who made the call. It discourages people from making anonymous calls, in my opinion. I'm surprised with the plate # of the lorry and DNA, that this murder is still unsolved? And if the witness who took down the plate number was worried? It's strange there is no description or photo fit of the person who worried them?

@jonathannixon8652

2 ай бұрын

It's truly heartbreaking 😢 †

@clioflano421

Ай бұрын

​@@pattymelt-go3fvIn Ireland (in rape cases) they (the courts) have stopped releasing victim impact statements to the media cos you can figure out who the victim is. You are spot on bout the 'anon' phone calls.

Gads, the terrible background music they started to add in these later episodes is pure cringe and I think insulting to the victims.

@pattymelt-go3fv

3 ай бұрын

Here-here

@Maz-zb9uf

3 ай бұрын

What

Thank you Oldstuff 🤗

2005 was probably the last year the show was well produced, 1984-1994 was the best produced era, Sue and Nick were a perfect team, calm, measured, understated, the reconstructions were packed with key details and never graphic or gratuitous. 1995-2005 was still okay, getting a bit more gimmicky but nothing like the horror of the 2007/8-2015 with the grandstanding presenting, tacky reconstructions and Rav's most wanted comedy auditions. The 2016-17 just seemed to be zero budget, presenting from a car park, they started to tone down the reconstructions a bit and did them more sensitively but still it was too late by them, damage already done.

@chrismanners9091

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, like lots of things, the original is the best. But the fast moving format after that was good too, with lots of cases covered. But agree that we're getting close to the limit with this episode.

@markdunstan8277

3 ай бұрын

Definitely agree with you I think all the presenters have been good But Nick and Sue definitely had fantastic chemistry The worst series was the last with Jeremy Vine when the BBC changed the format

@jonathannixon8652

2 ай бұрын

Why not see the positive view, like several cases have been solved during the time period you didn't like. †

@chrismanners9091

2 ай бұрын

@@jonathannixon8652Fair point.

Brilliant thanks oldstuff. Poor Inga. The tip about the lorry is correct. Locals know exactly who has done it and police know too. Not enough evidence to arrest apparently. Poor girl was assaulted and murdered within HOURS of arriving in NI.

@michealhand1001

3 ай бұрын

Surely the must have DNA evidence to link him to the murder?

The first story ain’t surprising at all, Turkish people seem to always use weapons in gangs, They never seem to fight like men

That photo is wonderfully clear

Thanks 🙏

There he is....too make my Saturday Evening again 😂.. Cheers mate!

First reconstruction “I don’t know what they were saying, but I know it was very cheeky”.. HOW sir HOW.. This made me so angry, sometimes, things go better when you just mind your business, not like it was his dad pub.. Well I hope they learnt a lesson or two from that evening moving forward, too just MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS, especially when THEY sang HAPPPY BIRTHDAY sooo loud to his mum, the irony 🥴

@rizzodar

3 ай бұрын

Exactly these mouthy fools bought it upon themselves for being cocky to the snooker players , they were minding their own business playing their game till this hero intervened and told them to keep to voices down , when he had the biggest mouth singing happy birthday WHAT A KNOB.!!!

@pattymelt-go3fv

3 ай бұрын

Honestly you weren't there and neither was I. I do understand your point about "minding one's business". But let me ask....do you think it's "normal" to attempt to ki*l 2 people over words said in a pub? No matter who was "wrong" or "right"? Whether the men from the birthday party were minding their own business or not... Why didn't the men playing snooker JOIN IN and sing happy birthday to the mother? Maybe they did? IDK? It IS a tradition in many, many countries. When people have a birthday in a bar or restaurant....EVERYONE in the establishment joins in. Secondly...is there an excuse to bring a knife and a bat and your friends, from across the street, to a fistfight? The 2 men celebrating mom's birthday didn't seem to be slashing and wielding bats or calling for reinforcements? And the snooker players were getting kicked out of the pub for smoking cannabis anyway..... So did they blame the 2 guys who asked them to pipe down for that? Where the 2 brothers helping the publican enforce his rules? Again, so what if they were? It's not normal to react with de*dly force... To almost ki*l 2 people who asked you, rightly OR WRONGLY, to quiet down? They thought that was rude..but so what if it was rude? If you feel someone is being rude to you....use your words. You DON'T st*b and beat 2 men half to de*th over words. Doing that, in my opinion makes them a violent people with anger management issues, who need to be locked up for everyone's protection. Because the next time someone says something THEY don't like..... They think it's TOTALLY OK to mob them with weapons. Does ANYONE want to live around people who use hom**idal violence because they feel insulted at the pub?

@binlondon9685

2 ай бұрын

I agree, however using violence with weapons is dispicable.

Good luck with the rest today I love your work so very proud to

Thanks oldstuff 😊

Inga hauser still unsolved

@BlytheWorld1972

3 ай бұрын

So very very sad poor girl she was also up in Scotland too rip angel .

@kevinroberts5653

3 ай бұрын

​@@BlytheWorld1972 Inga Jëdwärd Of Sarah hardIn

@pattymelt-go3fv

3 ай бұрын

It's so very strange to me! Firstly, the MOP was worried enough to take down the number plate of the lorry Inga got into, ON THE FERRY when it docked in Ireland. This person MUST have seen the drivers face to become worried... so why no e-fit OR description of the driver? Was the number plate ever traced to a company? 2. DNA...please try using familial DNA to solve this murder case for Inga and her family. 3. I never understood why Crimewatch UK said that she had only been dead a few days when her body was found in Bally Patrick forest? Inga was obviously killed within 24 hours of her arrival in Ireland, She was in constant contact with her family and always writing in her journal...she wouldn't have just gone dark. So WHY did Crimewatch UK state otherwise?

I recognise that actress who features in the one in the chippy it is Laura Norton who plays Kerry Wyatt in Emmerdale I instantly recognised her voice

I was in London just crossed the road where bus went up 😢

That poor girl. Did the police catch up with those scumbags who worked in the take away in County Durham?

@zuluzray3638

3 ай бұрын

I looked it up I believe they did

@pattymelt-go3fv

3 ай бұрын

@@zuluzray3638 Thanks. This was almost 20 years ago now. This lady was SO lucky to survive! I hope she's doing well. Imagine being so ENTITLED...warped and disrespectful? He sabotaged her life, his life, the 2 employees and all their families lives. What did he tell his mother?

48:43 Eric Akinniranye case A witness said 'I saw a man with a hood over his head getting out of a car. He had a gun and fired three bullets into the body of the man and fired one shot into the air. Two buses stopped right in front of it. The passengers were shocked.'. The police also said that they thought his murder had been part of an ongoing battle between drug dealers. It was thought that his killers had been tipped off that he was due to visit the area and that they had been waiting and looking out for him. They said that they had found CCTV evidence that indicated that they had been looking for him and that it was set up.

Bus stop attack victim named Irma Dragoshi.

I don’t get the reconstruction with kym aka nookie did she die then? Why did they not show any pics of what she looked like… Weird case

@hihowareyouthen

3 ай бұрын

When they said that she didn't finish making the call, I thought she'd died...but then later they said she was seriously injured. So, I assume she survived 🙏 Maybe that's why they didn't show her pic - for privacy, etc. You're right though, it was a confusing reconstruction 🤔

@maxine4898

3 ай бұрын

And why did her partner run away when he found her instead of ringing the ambulance 🤔

@toonburg111

3 ай бұрын

He said money found in the house could have been motive for the killing

@denzel9086

3 ай бұрын

Very strange and also the music in parts towards the end of the reconstruction just seemed odd. Hopefully the case was solved? RIP to her.

@lynnsnowdon49

3 ай бұрын

She died unfortunately. I've found the article related and posted in separate thread.

The Bus stop attack was committed by Levi Bellfield. It's interesting that Colin Sutton is on. Does that mean they'd linked it with the other Bellfield crimes, or did Colin get the cases like these generally? I guess it's the latter because much more would have been made of the link. I've read both Colin's books, but can't remember the details. Does anybody know?

@DonerKetty

3 ай бұрын

Yes. He says in the episode he’s linking this attack to that of Amelie Delagrange, a Bellfield victim.

@lw3646

3 ай бұрын

He's in a piece Sky News did on Maddeline McCann.

@chrismanners9091

3 ай бұрын

@@DonerKetty Whoops! Thanks for putting me right. I was probably too busy typing this out when he said it.

@DonerKetty

3 ай бұрын

@@chrismanners9091 Do you know if this attack was later confirmed to be carried out by Bellfield then? Or just assumed?

@chrismanners9091

3 ай бұрын

@@DonerKetty I thought he'd been convicted, but now I look he charged and the jury failed to reach a verdict.

He read the reg wrong on the red astra

14:56 Naughty Nick butting in 🤣

as a tourist stay with several people it happens so often

9p for stamps in 1988 😢

@jamesobrien1440

Ай бұрын

It was probably only a tiny bit more for a drink in the pub. And petrol too.

Was the last reconstruction necessary? All they had to do was show the wanted picture and say they haven't been seen for 3 months.

@LALakersNornIron

3 ай бұрын

I understand what you mean but I think they wanted to convey the seriousness of the offence he was wanted for, in an effort that if someone did know where he was it would make it easier to let police know.

@lw3646

3 ай бұрын

Probably, it seemed unnecessary to me, the reconstructions were usually about getting a name for a suspect. By doing that reconstruction half her town is going to know who she is now, or if they change some key details then the reconstruction itself becomes largely redundant. ​@@LALakersNornIron

The one in the Photo Call , £156 Million and ONLY gets 6 year Jail , he would serve 4 at the most , not a bad exchange rate is it ??

It’s nearly nineteen years since the 7/7 bombings may all those rest in peace Xx 😢😢

Until this episode, this is the list of Crimewatch UK episodes that are currently"missing from KZread" ● Thu December 10 1992 ● Thu October 11 2001 (the first twenty-four minutes are missing) ● Wed March 6 2002 ● Thu June 26 2003 ● Thu November 20 2003 (the last few minutes are missing) ● Wed December 17 2003 (the first few minutes are missing) ● Wed April 28 2004 ● Wed April 13 2005 (PARTIALLY ON KZread)

Rav’s haircut screams the early-mid naughties so much the boybands Blue, A1 & 5ive are currently suing him for plagiarism

Like someone else said, it does make you wonder why people would become so enraged and aggressive because of somebody telling them to keep their voice down!! Goodness me. I get angry with the way others behave, and people annoy me every minute of the day, but I would never physically hurt anyone. Just let it go. Walk away from it, not worth dying for.

@braxriverboys

Ай бұрын

Stupid stupid ridiculous comment

haven't we got any British criminals ?

@paulconaty4108

3 ай бұрын

Levi Bellfield in this one

@chrismanners9091

3 ай бұрын

@@paulconaty4108 I think he counts!

@kirstm.2215

3 ай бұрын

No they all came over and stole our jobs even the criminals have been made redundant now 😂😂😂

@johnniethepom7545

3 ай бұрын

Some of them emigrated because they didn't like the way the UK was going !

The bloke who killed inga probly dead now

The hit and run involing the Range Rover has been solved but the criminal escaped justice Was featured on Crimewatch solved

Hi how are you doing today help the family and friends and the police

Don't really understand what happened in the first reconstruction. The victims seem to have followed the gang outside when they got ejected from the pub - clearly not condoning what happened, but why would they do that?

@earth0128

3 ай бұрын

I think they were trying to help the landlord but went wrong quick, it's frightening how many people carry weapons 😮

@zeexox4998

3 ай бұрын

That’s why it’s always best to mind your business and keep out. It’s not worth getting involved putting yourself in danger as you never know what people are like

@chrisjohn4605

3 ай бұрын

yeah, they clearly had words with them previously and then got involved when they were chucked out the pub, not that they deserved what happened but they've left a little out of that story.

@xperia1ii755

3 ай бұрын

The bloke obviously got tanked up and became lairy.

@jackmatthew1880

3 ай бұрын

@@zeexox4998 Supporting a landlord is not a bad thing. Landlords often have to face these situations alone.

44:33 Kerry from Emmerdale?

@ryanohara476

3 ай бұрын

Yes Laura Norton born 19 June 1983 in Hazlerigg Tyne and Wear so she is either 22 or 21 years old. Depending on when in June or July the reconstruction was filmed.

@ianbousfield1962

3 ай бұрын

I remember seeing this reconstruction at the time. I'm sure they later caught the rapist.His workmates at his new job grassed him up

Eric was done by the turks

DRUGS .

England now is finished

@sher6897

3 ай бұрын

?

@Maz-zb9uf

3 ай бұрын

Yeah English are not violent

@binlondon9685

2 ай бұрын

So is the rest of the world.

@dshe8637

Ай бұрын

​@@Maz-zb9uf😂

And they said society was safer under labour. 😂

@denzel9086

3 ай бұрын

I'm from North West London and was born in 1998 and grew up in the 2000s/early 2010's, I can say without doubt it was far more dangerous back then than it is now. The media brainwash on crime nowadays is complete BS.

@chrismanners9091

3 ай бұрын

Murder rate was higher than now, but lower than it was under John Major.

@sher6897

3 ай бұрын

@@denzel9086I guess Sadiq Khan isn’t too bad after all

@johnniethepom7545

3 ай бұрын

​@denzel9086 , you were 2 years in2000 , you have😢got a clue m8 . I worked in London for ten years from 1988 . It's completely crazy now , knifing each other because of Facebook disrespect . London has descended into a third world environment .

@lw3646

3 ай бұрын

I remember it as a time of chavs, asbos, happy slapping, terrorism, but that was all on the fringes, the economy was great during the Tony Blair era and people were enjoying life.

Albo

Di Sheila ! Is one fine looking 👀 honey

Turks on tour 🫣😳🥶

An Asian man folding up a young girl above a take away in northern England?! 😮

Common thread through a lot of these SMH

@dshe8637

Ай бұрын

Male violence

48:04 RIP Tipsie