The stun and concussion mechanics should be in Simulation battles ONLY

@joemama-zb9co

Ай бұрын

more like acrade only

I think what should happen, is to do the same thing, as the severe damage "update". Open up a dev server, see if people like the changes or not, and the players can vote whether it's good or not. I'm curious how this change would look like.

@Roolandhun

Ай бұрын

And (forgot to say) people can vote separately, which part do they like and which to they said no. So it would be fair for everyone.

@dadistos4538

Ай бұрын

Does Gaijin model the crewmember as one whole hitbox, where the fragment would do the same damage if it hit the foot OR the head? If so, could they not literally just more specifically model them? One frag to the head is a one hit KO but it might take 4+ to the leg or whatever

@Roolandhun

Ай бұрын

@@dadistos4538 Maybe because they didn't wanna go in that much detail, since it's about tanks. Good question tho.

@tigertank1819

Ай бұрын

@dadistos4538 They maybe planing to add more detailed crew damage models eventually since the Mobile Infinity event last year had the Infantries bodies split into segments with headshots typically being one-hit kills when their helmets were penetrated.

@PvtPartzz

Ай бұрын

And let the pilots play around with fox 3’s again.

Def prefer option 1. For the optics, I think something that can be done for tanks that already lack NVD or thermals is to either prevent them from zooming in fully, and or implement a crack model on the optic that is kind there to get in your way while your trying to aim, but doesn't necessarily prevent the player from retaliating As for crew healing, I think the best way to implement that would be to make the crew replenishment modification not only replace a dead crewmember, but also heal any injured crewmembers, that way it doesn't change players gameplay in any significant ways, while also making that modification useful for vehicles with 2 or less crewmembers by default.

@Patton33

Ай бұрын

I like this for option 1, I think additionally they should remove gunners sights from remote turret vehicles when you destroy the optic, as it’s literally the only way they can aim them

@Lexus-fo3ey

Ай бұрын

Either the crew replenishment heals the crew or u stay heal ur crew like u would replenish ammo

@JJ_JJ200

Ай бұрын

I would love the heal like ammo replenishing, but make it the same timer as replacing a crew member, so you sit still longer instead of just zooming in and out of the caps ​@@Lexus-fo3ey

Everyone balling when they think smoke grenades in the fighting compartment are death traps... until they realise they were stored in wet bins and their main nation drived around with large fuel tanks in their crew compartment for 50 years...

@alex190alex

Ай бұрын

Russia?

@mirekspodmonopolowego9016

Ай бұрын

And sometimes there was ammo in those fuel tanks

@tomfahey2823

Ай бұрын

What does "large fuel tanks in their crew compartment" even mean? Every armoured vehicle has to put their fuel tanks *somewhere* in the vehicle - whether you consider them "inside the crew compartment" seems to be semantics at best. How much armour does there have to be between the fuel and the crew for the tanks to be considered "outside" the crew compartment? 5mm? 10mm? 20mm? When you consider that most IFVs don't even have 20mm of armour protection between the crew and the *outside* of the tank, saying that the fuel tank is "inside" or "outside" the crew compartment seems totally arbitrary to me, especially seeing as any semi-modern HEAT/APFSDS round is going to adjust the layout of the vehicle without much difficulty.

@babalonkie

Ай бұрын

@@tomfahey2823 "What does "large fuel tanks in their crew compartment" even mean?" I wonder what could it mean...!? it must mean... When a 5mm fuel tank ruptures and immediately douses the driver, the floor of the entire crew compartment and the lower ammo with highly flammable liquid with lots of sparks hitting it at the same time... setting everything alight in the tank and cooking off the ammo... turning the barrel into a choo choo train and then the turret into a rocket ship. As opposed to a 20mm+ fuel tank located in/or on the engine compartment, or attached on the sides outside, separated by main armour and flame proof asbestos. (so TWO layers of metal and flame proof material between the fuel and the crew) I love history... not even a god can rewrite it. Especially when you can turn on a telly and see it happening in real time today... Choo Choo.

@tomfahey2823

Ай бұрын

@@babalonkie What tank has it's fuel tank located on the *outside* of its main armour? Genuinely curious

Here's a novel idea, a radial menu for prioritizing repairing. Engine, track, breech and vertical is out? Radial up to focus repairing the breach first with an automatic rotation of priorities upon completion. Track and gun is out but you're in the middle of a field and need to get to cover? radial right to focus track first so you can dip faster.

@lokikinch

Ай бұрын

Yeah, one small problem with all of this; It's a good idea, and this is Gaijin Entertainment.

@triparadox.c

Ай бұрын

@@lokikinch Gaijin Suffertainment

@SquareHotShot

Ай бұрын

That's not how it works in wt the repairs repair everything in the compartment but a track is faster to repair than an engine so it repairs first

@williewilson2250

Ай бұрын

It repairs everything separately already

Option 1 since then they will have to module those modules correctly and give us better idea where the composite armour in tanks begins and ends

@jayz7130

Ай бұрын

I heavily agree with this. It's always "oh yeah, trust us theres this much armor here" and never properly shows us.

@chabr1783

Ай бұрын

i would love to see that beacuse i always loved really nicely simulated damage model. Like DCS damage models like for example: when you get hit in the eletronics the whole HUD just shifts of start blinking etc... making it really hard to stay efficient even with this "non critical" damage.

@vernux5299

Ай бұрын

only bad thing with this one, is it will take them 50 years to make it for everything >.

@williamgreenfield9376

Ай бұрын

@@jayz7130 but you trust them to model these modules correctly?

@williewilson2250

Ай бұрын

​@@williamgreenfield9376yes

I like these options, only thing else I wish they would add is ammunition resupply in the spawn zone. Kinda sucks to run out of ammo in a battle and cannot reach a cap safely

I think the gun sight damage are definitely necessary. Tho if even the MG can damage it (which is true irl), it might be too big of a game changer for players. And for the matter of crew damage. I think if after J out there's a chance(depends on situation) your crew can escape back to spawn alive and take another tank(same tank with all the remaining crews and cost a lot fewer sp). It can encourage enemy bail out early just like irl, Making scoring a vehicle kill easier, and also encourage players respawn more instead of leave the game

@Lexus-fo3ey

Ай бұрын

I like the idea of bailing out but it should also give u a free backup because all those Turms and Panzerbatallion players are newbies that dont habe many backups at all so this change wouldnt do anything to help with the 1-death-leaver problem

@cagrkocaslan5783

Ай бұрын

Def not necessary. İts either hard to implement or it would only be very annoying crack at your screen who wants that lol

They should introduce shrapnel ricochet inside the tank, more realistic plus also more damage fixing the solution

@amit2smadar

Ай бұрын

Yes, this!

@linussyren9221

Ай бұрын

They tried that back in the day for CHEATFS, way back before darts were meta, but the community was outraged… and now ppl ask for it again.

@UnknownUsername131

Ай бұрын

@@linussyren9221 I doubt it's the same people asking for it that were outraged. What's your point?

@williewilson2250

Ай бұрын

​@@UnknownUsername131he doesn't have one, people just assume

Only took long enough for a kid to go from kindergarten to senior year for them to do this.

@williewilson2250

Ай бұрын

I was one of those kids except I'm in college now

I think a logical change they can make is if you fire and hit an optic it will knock out that veiw option to you. Example: i hit the gunners optic on a tank the other player can nolonger use gunner scope to fire. If the press shift to change to that veiw they will see black or a blurred damaged veiw. No thermal or nvm and no sight until repaired. Commander sight will be more useful as a backup in this case and if they lose that sight too then they can only veiw and fire in 3rd person which can make longer range shots more difficult. Potentially hitting driver sight could cause the vehicle to drive slower or reduce responds time between your controls and the vehicle responding to them ( simulating commander guiding the blind driver). These can make blinding tactings viable in game.

@jameshoch8519

Ай бұрын

Another thing I'd love to see that will probably never get done is having dismounts for ifvs. These vehicles are designed around supporting an infantry squad after all. If you were able to drop your fire team give them commands to move to a cap point and cap it at a slower rate than a normal vehicle and give automatic scouting abilities to host vehicles only and are able to fire at other dismounted recon teams it could add to game play making ifvs more versatile and give another means for regular tanks to gain sl and rp. Could even give them short range anti tank launchers like the LAW or rpg18 so you can send a team using the map to an area you know a tank is camping at that is out of your means to reach without getting destroyed or to send them to guard flanks that are known areas that tanks sit at early game for spawn camping. There's a lot you can do with that and it would be fun to see were you could go with that. It would also open the door to slot of other vehicles that aren't viable for the game in its current iteration.

@williewilson2250

Ай бұрын

​@@jameshoch8519no

Hi, hope you doing fine thank you for your work, you helped me going throught a lot.

@randomdanishman

Ай бұрын

I hope you are doing better

Best option in my opinion for damage is 1, yah they will have to add new modules, it will take time to do for all tanks, but i think this way would lay foundation for better future of damage model and improving things for future to more advance things.

I definitely prefer the 1st option, but they should prioritize fixing kinetic penetrators. Them messing thise up is the actual root cause of all this. Maybe add internal spall ricochet? Even just spalling from a shell hitting/exiting the opposite armor to where it penetrates (which is a real thing), creating a sort of double cone inside the vehicle.

@Consumpter

Ай бұрын

im hoping with the coming nerf to APHE they will buff all shrapnel so that ww2 german players can stop complaining

I feel like the second stun option will lead to a new Crew Memeber stat akin to like battle experience/hardness or like stun resistantance that you'll have to train up and spend money to ACE

@jayz7130

Ай бұрын

Yeah, gaijin will force us to shove money into whatever they can.

Little off everything would be best like the detailed modules + turret have chance to starts rotating in random direction after gunner is out or the tank have chance to start driving in random direction after driver is out... and the multiple fire souces would be nice too... but yeah i get it its a lot off work :D

They need to make crew health have buffs and debuff due to health status. If they added 2-3 medical kits within the tank, the crew can be healed. I think if they did it to where a yellow crew for example would have slight debuffs on there specific skill sets, like a loader would get it’s reload speed changed or a gunners targeting speed. Idk or they could do it to were the crew members themselves have their own damage model depending on what and where they got hit so like legs, torso, arms, head, etc. Maybe even a bleeding mechanic on the crew where if not treated would cause them to bleed out, and maybe they could add equipment for the crew themselves like better protective gear or something along the means of that. For damaging modules it would be nice to see Gaijin implement it so where destroying optic, gunners optic, commander sight optics would make you not be able to use thermals or maybe a rangefinder, target tracking. Also they did say in the 2024 roadmap they wanted to add realistic optics to tank, so for more modern tank with backup sight it would be cool to see that be added as well. Tanks with a loading system could have the chance to jam or misfire. They could also add battery systems to vehicle where all electronics would not work. Also Gaijin can finally add APUs to tanks that have them so you can use certain systems while your engine is off. Begin able to damage fire control systems, and even fire suppressions systems, then could even add the ability to manually put out the fire with a handheld fire extinguisher. For some response if you have a fire in game you lose the ability to control your tank which shouldn’t happen if it’s an automated fire suppression system not an actual person in the vehicle doing it. Damaged ammo could be discarded or unusable if it’s at a red state so you can have the ability to reduce ammo detonations. Or things like MGs would jam if damaged, to much sustained fire will over heat. Also all this should be transferred to other vehicles as well not just tanks. Planes for sure and maybe ships too.

@yato-san4465

Ай бұрын

Are you restarted? literally crew health has its effect on how well they do their part in tank... so stop talking when you don´t know even basic shit in game

I think all of these options are terrible, the last one isn't bad but still not great. I feel like the first one is allowing people to take poor shots and still come out on top, by the time you're at top tier it's probably a given where you should shoot other players in order to successfully kill them in one shot. The second one is of the main reasons that world of tanks's player base on NA tanked so badly.

@ssuuss539

Ай бұрын

Irl if a tank gets penned it’s going to be disabled in some way

@gabrielbotha3587

Ай бұрын

@@ssuuss539 I get it and it's honeslty the only viable option out of the three, but in a game where they're now making up values for armor schemes I feel like giving more ways to disable a vehicles without aiming for a certain spot is pretty counter-intuitive.

People are worried about the concussion mechanic meanwhile I'm worried about the extra fires mechanic. Fires are one of the most annoying mechanics in the game it completely resets your repair timer and resets reloading now people want to make fires even more common. Cant want to die because a candy bar wrapper my commander threw in the crew compartment of my Bradley caught on fire and reset my breech repair back to 20 seconds when I was 2 seconds away from finishing

@DreCoss17

Ай бұрын

Yeah, weird to see that bringing more fires into the game is being the popular option lol

@MozzaBurger88

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's a solid NO for me as well.

@williewilson2250

Ай бұрын

They need to add automatic fss

gotta love this shit.. Ofc they go for leopards and abrams why not all those deathtraps called ru tanks ? they should get plenty of info on those coffins..

@Null24

Ай бұрын

Mainly because those tanks have a decent amount of dead space, so if you don't hit the exact spot needed to kill you probably won't. Russian tanks are MUCH smaller and if you pen the tank it's very likely a one shot Also, a way to balance this mainly harming NATO tanks, the autoloader should become a component that can be damaged/destroyed(France and Japan mains in SHAMBLES). This could work by slowing down the autoloader by 20 percent when orange, and 30 or 40 percent when red, with it either entirely breaking down and stopping when black or slowing by anywhere from 60 to 90 percent. (The reason I'm saying when orange and not yellow is that most of the time when things turn yellow they don't really lose effectiveness. Or just implement a 10 percent slowdown in autoloader when yellow)

@jeffmeadows3795

Ай бұрын

Trust me, Russian tanks will be least affected by any potential changes. Wait till a Russian shell bounces off an Abram’s but causes the loader to drop the shell and have to start loading all over again, while Russian auto loaders are untouchable.

@kju520

Ай бұрын

​@@jeffmeadows3795 upside of an autoloader

@Lexus-fo3ey

Ай бұрын

​@@kju520 thats not how autoloaders work when they are getting shot they should stop working or be way less efficient. But Gaijoobles just doesnt see it that way so we have to live with that

@kju520

Ай бұрын

@@Lexus-fo3ey yeah so live with it and stop the tears.

When they say "APC" in this context, as I understand, it stands for "Armored Personnal Carrier" so I think it's not the munition (APCR) they are talking about but the vehicle category instead. I could be wrong about this but this is how I understand it.

@JustinPlaysTV

Ай бұрын

I meant in reference to the shell type and how it usually has zero spall effect, not the vehicle type.

Wooo! Great video

if the stun feature gets added i'm going to lose it

@Collat3ralD4mage

Ай бұрын

Same

@nono-zu6ob

Ай бұрын

And the gun being thrown off target and the crew compartment fires if they add most of the things in this most of the players will probably quite

@ronaldmcreagann6343

Ай бұрын

Imagine autocannons being able to stun lock your crew

@camel2096

Ай бұрын

I will quit the game if they add that i wont even be able to have fun in low tier

@kasperv967

Ай бұрын

Yeah, having stuff thrown around the screen and losing control of the cursor would be infuriating.

This needs to be implemented correctly and delicately. That means they absolutely need to listen to the community and if they want to go through with it, up armor the vehicles that are receiving this “test” mechanic. A whole revamp of armor and modules, and vehicle models

Personally id say yes to the stun and shock thing because it makes more sense although I’m not sure how severe it will affect gameplay.

Nice video Justin! Some of these new mechanics seem interesting but I wish they would work on their existing mechanics that are flawed rather than implementing new ones.

What about more capture points and being able to spawn from capture points?

As a not so new player that came back to actually dive deep finally into war thunder. I find cool how the include the community in these choices.

i like that RB is "realistic" and adding more realism only enhances that gameplay. if you want arcade like gameplay you have standard battle or if its really your thing .... world of tanks also, the idea that a calibre thats too small to pen a bigger tanks can ring its bell long enough to get to safety is a good thing

There should be a heal mechanics for ground. Air and helicopters get to repair fully. If you are pushing the caps you should be rewarded better.

I really hope the ”crew healing” mechanic only applies to the wounded ones and not the ones that are fully killed.

M1128 reload speed (7.5s instead of 6s) and is missing spal liner when gaijin ;(

@HoLdThiS_Lz

Ай бұрын

I have the wolf pack & its infuriating that chained wheels doesn't add anything towards traction, instead its only a cosmetic like what!?

Since they've made T-80 and T-72 tanks easier to blow up with 'improved damage,' why not make the Abama tanks unable to reload while driving fast or if they stop suddenly, causing the crew member to die with a shell in hand? Additionally, receiving any damage should slow down the reload speed, except for T-80 and similar tanks that have an auto-reload feature. Let's make the game more realistic.

My take on healing was and remains : if you go out of your way to sit on a cap point for like 20 sec without moving, the crew replenishment should not be a single crew member but a full fresh crew coming to relieve of duty the current one. You get that one extra crew per spawn, you have to plan for it but you get a fully fresh one. No healing in the background (like, Johnny over there has its leg shredded by shrapnel from the armor spalling, no medkit is gonna fix that... And I know it's a game but that's way too World of Tankish). Your crew is hurt : that's too bad. But you get that one opportunity for a fully fresh one. And yes : FPE should replenish the same as everything else (ammo, smoke, hard-kill, ...) Basically you make it to a cap point. You survive there long enough. You're fully restocked and get ONE fresh crew per tank.

they literally said m1 and leopards will get the feature first, making soviets op just like how m1 leopards dont have spall liners like how soviet tanks have an extra unmodeled spall liner which is a cheat modifier that reduces spalling amount up to %100 on some tanks like how their era provides 200mm kinetic protection + 50 before reacting total of 250 kinetic protection soviet tanks are already biased op, cannot be pened from front, adding concussion will make any chance of fighting back

@thunderball1398

Ай бұрын

When they are going introduce it, it will be broken because gajin

just use heat. idk. i only use sabot when im playing britian or fighting vics wirh kontact5/relict. only times i use sabot.

For light tanks, just fix the damage model as apcbc should shrapnel if fuse sensitivity is reached yet 90% of the time it doesn’t fuse just going through…. No new mechanism needed, just fix the current broken mechanism.

If you havent played the alphajet yet as cas, you absolutely need to. 4 500lbers and 76 snebs, ccip, great flight performance. Only problem is france 8.7 ground is kinda dookie.

First shot advantage should be promoted. On the US side of things, seeing my dart pen but do no real damage and maybe kill one crew is annoying, yet most other people can one shot me hilariously often. If I'm getting the first shot off due to positioning, something the Abrams the relies on, that should be a death sentence to most tanks I shoot at. Allowing the first shooter the follow-up shot would promote strategic gameplay.

I'm glad they're looking at new ways to give even more depth to the game. I'm all for new game innovation. Just praying they get it right.

We need regenerative steering more than this.

My favorite is definitely the 2nd option. I'm worried the first option will furthermore introduce imbalance to vehicles when Gaijin selectively choose sekret document to increase/decrease certain vehicles efficiency by adding internal modules . 3rd is gonna be terrible when every shot you take, you just take DoT damage with no way to stop it. 2nd option will introduce a new mechanic which solving the problem, being immersive. Getting the first shot off should always give you the advantage imo.

What truely matters is the way modules of all kinds recieve damage. . . A single piece of shrapnel tickled the tippy tippy tip of your engine? Dead motor

Results are out from the survey: most people said no to the concussion but we're getting everything else

Common wheres crew slot drag/swap?

justin plz test YAK-141

dang it

I'd like to see optic damage matter, electrical systems damage and hydraulic damage, that all makes perfect sense to me. The stun effects, no. Maybe add it for more realistic purposes in Sim mode and test it out there.

And yet today I was hit in the barrel and one singular fragmentation caused my entire crew to be knocked out.

Something that always bothered me with the game is the fact that when your in a electric turret drive Tank and your gunner is injured the turret rotation speed is lowered , makes absolutly no sense i agree with it when it comes to manually driven turrets but electric ones ? No get rid of it , also if they want to make shells do more damage , 1. Stop the fact that when your shell is going through a crew member he eats all of the spalling (And also crew members should only get injured by either spalling or fire and not be able to survive when directly it with something bigger then a 20mm , looking at you enemy crew members that can take a direct impact 40mm AP Shell and survive) , 2. For the Love of God Fix Volumetric it's a nightmare , imma tell you a little story that happened to me to prove my point : I was playing a 11.7 game on Japan it was the end of the game we crushed the enemy team to their spawn and a guy decided to spawn a panther , I SWEAR i shot him 3 times in a row in the mantlet with the Leclerc Best Shell and it did NOTHING!! It simply ate it , had to resolve myself to shoot him in the upper front plate... And 3. Just make all solid shot E.I : APFSDS/APCBC/APCR etc.. do more spalling , 30mm APHE does more damage than top tier APFSDS...

Damage models are Something that gajin has to fix but that's just the top of the iceberg

stun effect gonna make auto cannon vehicle even more broken

Imagine shooting the hydraulic drive for the gamemakers to forget there's a manual back up......maybe just slow it down quite a bit instead?

Welp, that's more reason for me to stick to air and grind out the Russian air tree with my MiG-23ML and just stop trying to spade my SEP/unlock my SEPv2 Might as well also implement concussion when vehicles take strong, non-penetrating hits if they're going to do this.

If the stun thing is in the game i will stop war thunder i cant even have fun even in low tier

I just want my BTR-82

im still waiting for a glass crack effect when your main gunsight is broken (blackened) so deter your vision a bit and one of the most requested heli damage model, ive seen heli's being opened and those things are filled with electronics to the brim, if those get hit something should be disabled at least seriously im tired of heli's especially KAs survive a close proxy from a gigantic SAM and still functions normally and offs half of your team before your next missile do a "hit" again personally stun effect is nice but pls not the random aiming deviation (just stun me that's more than enough)

having concussing effect for the camera in the game would sound kind of cool... this might also help be a reason for gajin to add the Chinese laser dazzling system on the ztz99s

what nobody really realizes yet is that when the updates the damage model for Challenger 2 they already implemented this some of these changes; specifically the turret drive changes and uhh, they kinda need some refining: the horizontal turret drive sticks out through the spall liner in the left turret cheek, meaning you don't even have to fully pen the turret to disable the horizontal anymore. To clarify: I'm a huge fan of the more realistic changes, the good and the bad they may bring, but I understand that everyone is not me and for a lot of people the realism does not out way the fact that it's a nerf to MBT's. Leo 2 and Abrams be warned o~0 Edit: I don't like the stun mechanics though and the sparks just seem really childish.

Module damage? Bradely booley YAS. Ironically though added modules will have the most impact on light armor, and especially on roomier ones like the PUMA or Class 3(P). But hey, T-90 turret go BRRRRR.

i think the crew should heal only in caps

I kind of like the stun idea, but not it moving the aim randomly. That sounds dumb, especially on vehicles with slow manual drives.

@tibnex5122

Ай бұрын

I fell like it'd be better after the stun that gunners range is slightly off when they fire and 1 sec delay to reloading

The concussion mechanic would alleviate the pet peeve of mine, that is, if you can pen your target from the front, it's better to pen it from the front than side. Because it will yield way more post pen damage. And when you hit the side, and you miss or don't destroy crewman or module, it feels like shit. Yes, this applies mostly to stuff like AP or APDS, with no filler, but imagine how much better the finless rounds, like M329 and its ilk, would be. I votes yes on everything.

I like all ideas lol

Man I swear that I was just talking to a buddy about if your sight gets shot you shouldn’t be able to see the sniper sight or something I think war thunder is listening

if they implement this in a schit way it willl be salt the snail pt.2

So glad to see two of three having been voted against. They’re all terrible but at least two won’t be coming. No stun effects, no extra fire. Unfortunately, people are still voting for a nerf to M1’s and Leopards which is disappointing.

I feel like some of the changes will have more of an adverse impact on NATO tanks, particularly the Leopard IIs. I tend to get a lot of scenarios where my penetrating shot just passes through a Leopard II without causing major damage, and they proceed to turn their turret an one shot me. I personally would welcome the change, I would also go to suggest that a wounded loader should have a slower reload rate, and perhaps after firing multiple shots will tire out the loader and also slow the reload rate. They are humans after all, they shouldn't be consistently pumping out rounds at exactly the same rate. At the moment human loaders are almost entirely superior to auto-loaders IMO, since they literally extend the health of your tank; for example Leopard IIs often take multiple shots to kill.

Need a severe damage style for tanks destroyed 3/5 crewmembers of a tank but some other guy shot him once and i got an assist i did most of the work i lost my wager because of that

First things first: model additional ways to disable NATO vehicles :) Shocking. Why would they change M1 and Leopard first I wonder?

Personally I find a lot of these type of changes generally come with a ton of incredibly annoying bugs and add a lot of irritating moments.

It’ll be awesome if light tanks could lay down tank mines. lol.

Again adding things players never asked for

Crew stun is a huge no, I can already tell.

@touchgrass7834

Ай бұрын

They can add it to Sim for all I care. That should just stay out of RB.

@tibnex5122

Ай бұрын

Honestly been experiencing something like this in RB where I take a hit, engine, fuel, or, radiator damage but untouched crew and turret control and I just can't control my tank until I repair the parts.

@touchgrass7834

Ай бұрын

@@tibnex5122 for me the gunner dies way after I got hit. So if my engine goes out bcs of the same shot, I will star repairing my engine and AFTER that the gunner stubbs his toe and bites the dust. Nothing is burning and it just adds to the time I'm sitting there without gunner.

@andrewruss5824

Ай бұрын

@@tibnex5122 halt the repair?

@tibnex5122

Ай бұрын

@andreruss5824 I tried that, still the same issue

I'm not sure I support any of these changes without an armor rework. A common complaint is that passed a certain point it does not feel like you're in a tank. Maybe reduce how weak a weakspot is. Right now, the only real measure of higher tier tank's survivability is crew placement, which won't matter with the changes. It turns the game into even more of a twitch shooter, whoever can flick first, wins. Unpopular opinion, maybe the guns across the board are too accurate. I doubt the Abrams, for example, would have ever made it into service if every shot, 100% of the time, went through Warthunder's massive weakspot. so there must be a reason why it's still being used if the weakspot is "realistic". My only thought is that in the real world that weakspot is much less likely to be hit. If you're going to make somethings defense realistic, the only true balance is also making a tanks offense realistic. EDIT: I'm also confused about the push to make shrapneling shells effective against light tanks. If there's not enough armor to cause shrapnel, then there's not enough armor to cause shrapnel. To my knowledge, every tank has access to a light vehicle's counter in the form of HE.

I choose number 4, no changes

If they test this shit like they test all their updates we can savely say the game will be unplayable for a couple of weeks. Gajin tends to overcomplicate mechanics without finishing implementing or fixing the old ones.

lol i thought that was just rng bs. i doubt they will fix this. this is most likely just server issues that every game has. u shoot something that should do damage and it doesnt.

Crew stun gives me WoT PTSD, hard no on that

I think the fire change might be good. The amount of times my shot just sets someone on fire but they are still perfectly operational and then 1 shot me is insane

Whole of russian light tank bias finna be gone if the they do the 1st

@triparadox.c

Ай бұрын

Whole ammo carousel chance to detonate down to 5%. Easy fix

the vote percentages on the poll give me some hope for now

Maus players are going to be having seizures.

@zay8113

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Sep v3 when

@zay8113

Ай бұрын

bro its just gonna be the same just slower for the "additional armor"

These changes especially the stun related ones are terrible, i like how the game is right regarding these changes. I DO NOT want warthunder to become more simulator themed. I agree with other comments gaijin needs to fix current issues within the game and not contiually add new features.

I aint ready to get flashbanged by enemy tanks. My eyes hurt from 7 years of playing Counter strike

If done right this could be really good BUT it’s gaijin

Gaijin will do anything just not to balance the game. Anything to create appearance of hard work.

I like the idea of the second way it does add that extra bit of immersion gameplay and of course realistic shock from a shell penetration. I just like the first way better. Plus it gives even more detailed models of our favorite vehicles.

Healing ground crew is going to be another pay to win crew mechanic

If more modules are being added then I want fucking autoloaders modeled they take up literally half the tanks internal volume and should be rendered useless with damn near every single penetrating shot especially that Russian garbage

Stopped playin wot because of the stun effect just to get it in war thunder lmao.

Besides the crew healing mechanic which is an awesome one the other ones suggested are absolute crap and will make the game worse so I hope people better get their stuff together and vote no on them, this game can be quite a pain in the butt as is and the last we all need is for it to get even worse.

Or perhaps the community could grow an extra braincell and learn to aim or just load a few HE rounds for light vehicles???

@Dwagonier_XAceX101

Ай бұрын

It's a community vote. The popular decisions win. "Just load HE" yeah tanks have armor, trying to kill a leopard 2a7, strv122, Leclerc with the perfect ufp armor vs HE, challenger 2s good damn luck. Sure you are going to aim at a miniscule optic on the roof with HE before that tank fires an apfsds 1600-1800m/s

@spray916

Ай бұрын

@@Dwagonier_XAceX101 Light vehicles moron. I specified. You can also HE every top tier MBT in the game.

@spray916

Ай бұрын

@@Dwagonier_XAceX101 You didn't pass the reading comprehension test. You're exactly the demographic I was speaking about

@Wingman-xz7kl

Ай бұрын

@@spray916having an HE shell preloaded isn’t exactly viable. The first shot you fire on a light vehicle will almost always be APFSDS. That’s the issue

i'd agree with more fire on the condition that we can replenish extinguisher on caps, new modules will be a nightmare for repair time you can already have repair times exceeding a minute, if they add more modules are we gonna spend 2 minutes repairing ? and imagine, 2 minutes without a breech or tube... might as well leave the match people voting yes to add more modules are brain damaged individuals. my answers were 1. no 2. no 3. no 4. yes

Please add the auto loading mechanism for tanks without a manual loader so we can damage the part

You DONT WANT stun mechanics, any former WOT vet will tell you the same

Remember when gaijin promised to us a rp bonus to research new nations? Because gaijin clearly have forgot about it

@Dwagonier_XAceX101

Ай бұрын

💀 say your me, i have every nation done on one account but isreal. The amount of free xp boost I'd get is astronomical. Which means gaijin doesn't want to give anybody that. Yeah it's probably forgotten about

Whaaat?

If they add the stun thing game gets deleted

@number7red619

Ай бұрын

Yes. Yes, couldn't say it better.