Creeping Attack Against Submarines
Learn about the fascinating Creeping Attack strategy developed by Captain Johnny Walker during World War II. Discover how this anti-submarine measure helped the Royal Navy in their battle against German U-boats. Find out the ingenious method of utilizing two warships to maintain sonar contact and increase the chances of successfully targeting U-boats. Don't miss this captivating video and make sure to subscribe for more fascinating historical content!
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Captain Johnny Walker, sounds like a Scotch and Rum cocktail
@drmetzler
3 ай бұрын
You know there is literally a scotch called Johnnie Walker.
@TXnine7nine
3 ай бұрын
@@drmetzlerAnd there is a rum called Captain Morgan. That was his whole point.
@KingTrouser
3 ай бұрын
I'm gonna start calling a rum and whiskey mix "the creeping attack" 😂
@camjam8367
3 ай бұрын
@@KingTrouser😂🤣
@jayburn00
3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, this guy sounded like the name of a drink.
Meanwhile world of warships: Submarine surfaces or stays at periscope depth firing 6 torpedo's at once point blank sinking the ship hunting it 😅
@Russia-bullies
3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile,I’ve decided not to play it for those reasons.
@alberto6169
3 ай бұрын
World of warships has submarines?
@RoydeanEU
3 ай бұрын
@@alberto6169 For a while now yes.
@patrickbueno3279
3 ай бұрын
@@alberto6169yeah since 6+ years if I'm not mistaken
@misteryroller9225
3 ай бұрын
Blitz players cant relate
I've had a few bouts of "The Creeping Attack" on several mornings after tangling with Capt. Johnny Walker.
@babatundeojerinde
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂... hope the hangover wasn't hard? Lol
@archlab007
3 ай бұрын
@@babatundeojerinde Unfortunately, it was plural.......& I often felt like the U-Boat
@goodanytimej8688
3 ай бұрын
Beat me to it lol
You know any man named Johnny Walker is gonna be a expert in his field.
@andycockrum1212
3 ай бұрын
There’s a UFC fighter by that name. Funny enough, he’s Brazilian. He’s an expert at chinning people and/or getting chinned himself
@todrkdck9805
11 күн бұрын
XDXDXDXDXDXD
There’s a statue of Captain Walker in Liverpool dockyards in commemoration of his work and devotion to protecting the Atlantic convoys, most of which docked at Liverpool. Such was his sense of duty that he literally worked himself to death.
@mynameisazz
3 ай бұрын
YNWA bro
So, the Creeping Attack was just 1 method of attack that he invented. There was also the Red Label, Green Label, the more efficient Black Label, and finally the most deadly Blue Label, that was seldom used because of it's price was very high compared to the others.
@renzsilva6990
3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye
3 ай бұрын
This just gave me the most pleasant laugh. Thanks.
@30pranaypawar17
3 ай бұрын
I dont get it. Spare me some braining and pls do explain... 😳
@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye
3 ай бұрын
@@30pranaypawar17 The man's name is Johnny Walker. Johnnie Walker is also the name of a popular brand of whisky. Red Label, Black Label, and, I believe, Gold Label are some of the drinks they sell.
@30pranaypawar17
3 ай бұрын
@@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye 🤣🤣👍
While Capt. Johnny Walker was quite effective, Capt. Morgan is far more insidious.
@MarekUtd
2 ай бұрын
When you see Captain Morgan you rum.
@thedarkerarchery3553
Ай бұрын
Neither of the 2 had anything on Sailor Jerry...
God damn Johnny walker, he’s attacked me too
I know its very morbid but I find the early ww2 and interwar period so fascinating, because technology we knew was getting used but wasnt quite there yet, so you had to be really crafty to use it. Same with dreadnought era Battleships. Yeah fully rotating turrets are superior but mixing the utility of turrets with the satisfaction of a good old broadside just hits the spot.
@russellmz
3 ай бұрын
devastator torpedo bomber : advanced carrier plane, faster than fighters when it first flew. WWII, flying deathtrap.
@PR0XYL1NK
2 ай бұрын
hot, not morbid
@pretzelbomb6105
Ай бұрын
I think the 1890's was about the last time a military was physically capable of keeping up with technology. Once 1900 came and went, no one had any idea what they were doing and if you accidentally did something right it was obsolete within 5 years. Which is a longwinded way of saying that the World Wars and Interwar Period produced some of the most nonsensical killing machines ever devised.
@doogleticker5183
24 күн бұрын
@@pretzelbomb6105 - True, but the inverse is also valid from all sides of the War.
@doogleticker5183
24 күн бұрын
It is not morbid to want to or come to, understand real history. It is vital that people remember. Props to you for your interest. Cheers.
Johnny Walker had separate hunter/killer units composed of destroyers that were there specifically to engage U-Boats. Convoy escorts were meant to escort ships, not to engage U-boats but to drrive them off. Sinking submarines was mission #2 (picking up survuivors was #3 or less). Walker put faster, more powerfful groups of Destroyers to work specifically hunting the enemy.
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
Also part of balance of battle changing. At this stage there were enough allied ships to hunt submarines
@abrahamdozer6273
3 ай бұрын
@@knoll9812 It was long range air power that reaaly turned the tide.
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
@@abrahamdozer6273 agree a large part of winning the battle. Whole range of areas where the allies got on top. Escort ships, faster ships, air cover, radar, tactics etc
Highly recommend ‘Walker R.N.’ Fantastic book about Johnnie Walkers life and career in the RAN and the way his tactics and strategy effectively bolstered a convoy’s chances against U-Boat penetration and attacks
Being named Johnny Walker is just too bad ass. 😂
Read the book - this captain was a legend. He was completely merciless.
@PR0XYL1NK
2 ай бұрын
so many bodies
So that's how you feel when you drink "EL BLUE LABEL DE JOHNNY WALKER". "Es un Elisir" indeed 🗿
Also, the hedgehog was like a shotgun blast. You only need to get close.
Creeping attack is the hangover
Warship uses Creeping Attack! It is super effective!
That is smart tactic, given the technologicql constraints.
@frosty3693
3 ай бұрын
The target would have to be deep, so you have time to get away before the charges went off. Shallow settings cold go off under you or too close to the propellers. The attacking ship wold loose contact as the prop noise would blank out the return. Thaks one reason modern ASW ships, adn subs, have towed array systems.
@SuperCatacata
3 ай бұрын
@@frosty3693old subs were so damn slow underwater that it really wasn't easy for them to "get away"
"Why don't you just throw the depth charge off the bow as a mortar?" Johnnie Walker: :O
The time issue solved by the (above) ahead throwing weapons wasn't the 'loss of contact' per se, it was the system of using depth charges. To depth charge a sub a warship used to have to sail along it's course and drop the DCs beyond it so they'd sink and the sub would hopefully sail into the exploding pattern. The deeper the sub, the longer the DCs would take to sink to that depth. This is why in the old films you see the sub capt. order a big course correction as the ship passed over. The other part of the attack system, asdic, was shown above. ASDIC was a fixed beam* aimed at an angle forwards & down and as the ship passed over the sub they'd lose contact. This is when the sub would jink. *As the war progressed newer asdic sets would appear with changable beams, etc. But it was the asdic loss of contact & the period it took for the DCs to descend.
El Juanito Caminante Great Scotch, No rules, only depth charges.
As a point, we always had the hedgehog in use.. they just didnt realise its worth until later. Many captains tried to have them removed and on inspections it was common to find them unmaintained. This is from captains logs at the time available for anyone to read up on fyi.
I have my doubts about the other DD being entirely stationary. It would take a lot of time to get those turbines spinning and the ship up to any sort of speed afterwards. Especially if this failed, it would be a vulnerable target for the submarine. The sub might bot be stationary either butbiust running at very low RPM to stay hidden. But if its getting pinfed, they'd know. Besides the sub would be using diesel or electric at a lower tonnage, much easier to get up to speed than 1000 ton DD using oil fired steam boilers and turbines. I haven't found much sources going in deoth about this except a short wikipedia artlce with similar descriptions as this video and it only cites to books but no specific in line citations. Anyways, IDK how accurate all this is. To me it would make more sense for the other DDs to just move slower rather than completely stopping.
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
I think the description is simplified. The actual technique was very complicated. The overall concept is correct. One scanning and one attacking
Freaking legendary badassery of a name. Those WW2 destroyers we're really something else
The idea of being inside a submarine getting hit with bombs is terrifying.
You can understand Johnny Walker and make this system a creeping walker.
What a name. Good wiskey .
Beautifully simple/brilliant perfect. As an infantry man, this is like a specialized pincher movement
Captain walker lost his son in war. He wanted REVENGE
@dohnjoe9211
3 ай бұрын
Take your revenge, oh-oh, oh-oh
Jhonny Walker, Keep Sailing.
Johnny Walker is a good drop
His periscope in his mouth is a nice touch
Creepwalking, Johnny Walker.
Fantastic short. I was actually looking into anti-submarine tactics during WW2 after listening to stories of Japanese Uboat captains. No wonder they lost so many submarine so suddenly.
Oh that Johnny was a smart bloke.
I love this channel.
Cool never heard of this before.
They named a bourbon after him in memory. Johnny Walker. Nah jokes😂
When I buy Johnny Walker I drink like a sailor... it's so smooth it hits me later and I'm neutralized, which is the real creeping attack... 🤣
I have yet to Wake Up wishing I had drank Johnny Walker the night before !
As soon as I heard "the hedgehog" and "squid" I instantly got C&C: Red Alert vibes. They should be seriously considered as units in any RA4 reboot. 😭😭
Could you imagine being inside a sub taking fire from depth charges? Terrifying no doubt
Man, the fear and claustrophobia of being on a sub that's getting outsmarted and hammered by depth charges back then....
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
At the end of the war 80% death rate on leaving on a mission.
Uhuh and what did Captain Morgan come up with?
Thanks. Very interesting
They showed this tactic in the movie Greyhound
Axle folley invented the banana in the tailpipe move.
Ironically it was the USS England that set records sinking Japanese subs using a Hedgehog.
Read the book, great innovative captain
Interesting thing is that I used to play war on the sea and basically came up with the same tactic for hunting subs in the campaign.
@clemsondriver9214
3 ай бұрын
I played "Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter" and came up with that tactic there too. I was always annoyed at losing contact and having to reacquire so i told one of my AI escort teammates to come nearby and keep tracking the enemy sub with their sonar so that it was a lot easier/faster to reacquire.
The Hedgehog was the downfall of Uboats. That system was a death sentence to any Uboat detected.
The second corvette which kept sonar contact was not stationary. That would have been suicidal.
Absolute genius. RIP sir!
This is me in War On The Sea.
I had als some loss of contacts after a night out with captain Jonny Walker.
Being a player of aces of the deep and watching allied tactics means I'm weirdly interested in a topic i shouldn't be interested of
where can I watch the full documentary ?
The hedgehog system did need careful use. One US ship had the knack. Most did not and stopped their mortars too far away missing the submarine.
Hedgehogs were so effective!!
Those poor guys...on both sides.
Can’t think of a scarier way to die than “drowning inside submarine that is hit with depth charge.”
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
Bayonets are scary
I knew nothing about this prior to the video, but as the problem was first highlighted, I thought "why dont they throw the depth charges over the front instead?" Seemed like an obvious solution to me. 🤷🏼♂️
A Naval suckered punch 🥊
Thank you.I always wondered how that works.
Cpt Johnny Walker?? Is he the one the whiskey is named after?
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
The whiskey is named after him.
@knoll9812
3 ай бұрын
😮
I just can’t get my head around this: not knowing anything, I would guess that depth charges would be the more effective weapon because, unlike the hedgehog, it does not have to make physical contact. A depth charge could explode many feet away from a sub and take the sub out.
Wouldn't the U-Boot also depend on hearing, other than sonar alone though? There is no such thing as "creeping up" with rotor blades
So he invented the Johnny Walker whiskey 🥃 😅
How so, this 'loss of contact'? And how so 'Stationary', if the U-boot moves?
Poor boys. Under water. Out sonared
Legend has he came up with the idea after a heavy night of drinking scotch.
It would be better if the attack was called Whiskers
Hedgehogs are lovely though.
Rule Britannia!
@texasforever7887
3 ай бұрын
Pax Americana
This is the approach I use in games involving submarines. I don't rush to depth charge them unless it's an emergency. I always make sure to achieve contact with at least 2 DD/DEs first. Then they can take turns dropping as well, increasing the intensity of ASW.
@cloroxbleach9222
3 ай бұрын
Man what game are you playing
@jeffreyestahl
3 ай бұрын
@@cloroxbleach9222 "War on the Sea" specifically, but "Submarine Hunter" or "Destroyer" and other DD based games suffice too.
@randomlycasual4941
3 ай бұрын
I love how good war on the seas submarine combat is. It’s a shame that most people don’t do asw only sub and complain asw is broken
@shipsability
3 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyestahl Have you tried silent hunter 3? (with mods) I recommend it if you want to try being the submrine.
Curls my toes…. Can’t imagine being in either…🌹🌹🌹🌹
I wonder at the intellect of some of these people who write these comments !
I stumbled upon this tactic by sheer luck in world on the sea.
If this was a German Kreisgmarine tactic, the comments would be filled with opinions that would all end with ".....if they'd developed this sooner, then WW2 might very turned out very different"
The creeping attack is the hung over from last night drinking with Johnny Walker, damn empty bottle !
I thought Johnny Walker sells alcohol
Johnny walker second harvest
It's like you had a baret with no scope and binoculars you can only use 1 in 1 time
Ahh, it's the Wingman 😂
Good whiskey, good tactics
"Clever girl"
Hold my whisky lads😅😅😅
Greyhound just as good;-)
Bi-Static ranging.
It's Captain Morgan!😮 Johnny Walker is whiskey! 🤓😎✌🏻
@ianmacfarlane1241
3 ай бұрын
*Whisky. Johnny Walker, being Scottish brand uses this spelling. Irish and American brands use the "whiskey" spelling. Whisky comes from the Gaelic term Uisge Beatha.
Sounds great in theory, but it's assuming the enemy will stay perfectly in one spot and waiting for you to drop the charges on them and won't fire back. Good luck trying this in real combat.
@twat9192
Ай бұрын
Do you know how boats move?
then there was the " Creep Attack" . Used by SImp dudes in Bars while trying to pick up 304's
It's destroyers, hunting in packs basically
How many unexploded hedgehogs are on the bottom ?
Johnny Walker his real name??? And his enemy is Captain Morgan???
The scotch guy???
Is ot required for navey personnel to smoke a pipe?
I'd rather go over the top than be a sub officer.
Can't imagine the terror in a u boot under barrage..
Interesting