Creeping Attack Against Submarines

Learn about the fascinating Creeping Attack strategy developed by Captain Johnny Walker during World War II. Discover how this anti-submarine measure helped the Royal Navy in their battle against German U-boats. Find out the ingenious method of utilizing two warships to maintain sonar contact and increase the chances of successfully targeting U-boats. Don't miss this captivating video and make sure to subscribe for more fascinating historical content!

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  • @fremenchips
    @fremenchips3 ай бұрын

    Captain Johnny Walker, sounds like a Scotch and Rum cocktail

  • @drmetzler

    @drmetzler

    3 ай бұрын

    You know there is literally a scotch called Johnnie Walker.

  • @TXnine7nine

    @TXnine7nine

    3 ай бұрын

    @@drmetzlerAnd there is a rum called Captain Morgan. That was his whole point.

  • @KingTrouser

    @KingTrouser

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm gonna start calling a rum and whiskey mix "the creeping attack" 😂

  • @camjam8367

    @camjam8367

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KingTrouser😂🤣

  • @jayburn00

    @jayburn00

    3 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing, this guy sounded like the name of a drink.

  • @RoydeanEU
    @RoydeanEU3 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile world of warships: Submarine surfaces or stays at periscope depth firing 6 torpedo's at once point blank sinking the ship hunting it 😅

  • @Russia-bullies

    @Russia-bullies

    3 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile,I’ve decided not to play it for those reasons.

  • @alberto6169

    @alberto6169

    3 ай бұрын

    World of warships has submarines?

  • @RoydeanEU

    @RoydeanEU

    3 ай бұрын

    @@alberto6169 For a while now yes.

  • @patrickbueno3279

    @patrickbueno3279

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@alberto6169yeah since 6+ years if I'm not mistaken

  • @misteryroller9225

    @misteryroller9225

    3 ай бұрын

    Blitz players cant relate

  • @archlab007
    @archlab0073 ай бұрын

    I've had a few bouts of "The Creeping Attack" on several mornings after tangling with Capt. Johnny Walker.

  • @babatundeojerinde

    @babatundeojerinde

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂... hope the hangover wasn't hard? Lol

  • @archlab007

    @archlab007

    3 ай бұрын

    @@babatundeojerinde Unfortunately, it was plural.......& I often felt like the U-Boat

  • @goodanytimej8688

    @goodanytimej8688

    3 ай бұрын

    Beat me to it lol

  • @FNWendigo
    @FNWendigo3 ай бұрын

    You know any man named Johnny Walker is gonna be a expert in his field.

  • @andycockrum1212

    @andycockrum1212

    3 ай бұрын

    There’s a UFC fighter by that name. Funny enough, he’s Brazilian. He’s an expert at chinning people and/or getting chinned himself

  • @todrkdck9805

    @todrkdck9805

    11 күн бұрын

    XDXDXDXDXDXD

  • @ThePhoenix198
    @ThePhoenix1983 ай бұрын

    There’s a statue of Captain Walker in Liverpool dockyards in commemoration of his work and devotion to protecting the Atlantic convoys, most of which docked at Liverpool. Such was his sense of duty that he literally worked himself to death.

  • @mynameisazz

    @mynameisazz

    3 ай бұрын

    YNWA bro

  • @hugostiglitz7373
    @hugostiglitz73733 ай бұрын

    So, the Creeping Attack was just 1 method of attack that he invented. There was also the Red Label, Green Label, the more efficient Black Label, and finally the most deadly Blue Label, that was seldom used because of it's price was very high compared to the others.

  • @renzsilva6990

    @renzsilva6990

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye

    @Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye

    3 ай бұрын

    This just gave me the most pleasant laugh. Thanks.

  • @30pranaypawar17

    @30pranaypawar17

    3 ай бұрын

    I dont get it. Spare me some braining and pls do explain... 😳

  • @Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye

    @Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye

    3 ай бұрын

    @@30pranaypawar17 The man's name is Johnny Walker. Johnnie Walker is also the name of a popular brand of whisky. Red Label, Black Label, and, I believe, Gold Label are some of the drinks they sell.

  • @30pranaypawar17

    @30pranaypawar17

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye 🤣🤣👍

  • @archlab007
    @archlab0073 ай бұрын

    While Capt. Johnny Walker was quite effective, Capt. Morgan is far more insidious.

  • @MarekUtd

    @MarekUtd

    2 ай бұрын

    When you see Captain Morgan you rum.

  • @thedarkerarchery3553

    @thedarkerarchery3553

    Ай бұрын

    Neither of the 2 had anything on Sailor Jerry...

  • @dsmith2568
    @dsmith25683 ай бұрын

    God damn Johnny walker, he’s attacked me too

  • @cc0767
    @cc07673 ай бұрын

    I know its very morbid but I find the early ww2 and interwar period so fascinating, because technology we knew was getting used but wasnt quite there yet, so you had to be really crafty to use it. Same with dreadnought era Battleships. Yeah fully rotating turrets are superior but mixing the utility of turrets with the satisfaction of a good old broadside just hits the spot.

  • @russellmz

    @russellmz

    3 ай бұрын

    devastator torpedo bomber : advanced carrier plane, faster than fighters when it first flew. WWII, flying deathtrap.

  • @PR0XYL1NK

    @PR0XYL1NK

    2 ай бұрын

    hot, not morbid

  • @pretzelbomb6105

    @pretzelbomb6105

    Ай бұрын

    I think the 1890's was about the last time a military was physically capable of keeping up with technology. Once 1900 came and went, no one had any idea what they were doing and if you accidentally did something right it was obsolete within 5 years. Which is a longwinded way of saying that the World Wars and Interwar Period produced some of the most nonsensical killing machines ever devised.

  • @doogleticker5183

    @doogleticker5183

    24 күн бұрын

    @@pretzelbomb6105 - True, but the inverse is also valid from all sides of the War.

  • @doogleticker5183

    @doogleticker5183

    24 күн бұрын

    It is not morbid to want to or come to, understand real history. It is vital that people remember. Props to you for your interest. Cheers.

  • @abrahamdozer6273
    @abrahamdozer62733 ай бұрын

    Johnny Walker had separate hunter/killer units composed of destroyers that were there specifically to engage U-Boats. Convoy escorts were meant to escort ships, not to engage U-boats but to drrive them off. Sinking submarines was mission #2 (picking up survuivors was #3 or less). Walker put faster, more powerfful groups of Destroyers to work specifically hunting the enemy.

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    Also part of balance of battle changing. At this stage there were enough allied ships to hunt submarines

  • @abrahamdozer6273

    @abrahamdozer6273

    3 ай бұрын

    @@knoll9812 It was long range air power that reaaly turned the tide.

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    @@abrahamdozer6273 agree a large part of winning the battle. Whole range of areas where the allies got on top. Escort ships, faster ships, air cover, radar, tactics etc

  • @dylandettorre6583
    @dylandettorre65833 ай бұрын

    Highly recommend ‘Walker R.N.’ Fantastic book about Johnnie Walkers life and career in the RAN and the way his tactics and strategy effectively bolstered a convoy’s chances against U-Boat penetration and attacks

  • @ironstarofmordian7098
    @ironstarofmordian70983 ай бұрын

    Being named Johnny Walker is just too bad ass. 😂

  • @cgilleybsw
    @cgilleybsw3 ай бұрын

    Read the book - this captain was a legend. He was completely merciless.

  • @PR0XYL1NK

    @PR0XYL1NK

    2 ай бұрын

    so many bodies

  • @IsAcRafT
    @IsAcRafT3 ай бұрын

    So that's how you feel when you drink "EL BLUE LABEL DE JOHNNY WALKER". "Es un Elisir" indeed 🗿

  • @snidecommenter7117
    @snidecommenter71173 ай бұрын

    Also, the hedgehog was like a shotgun blast. You only need to get close.

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky63213 ай бұрын

    Creeping attack is the hangover

  • @SimpleTon294
    @SimpleTon2943 ай бұрын

    Warship uses Creeping Attack! It is super effective!

  • @ordenax
    @ordenax3 ай бұрын

    That is smart tactic, given the technologicql constraints.

  • @frosty3693

    @frosty3693

    3 ай бұрын

    The target would have to be deep, so you have time to get away before the charges went off. Shallow settings cold go off under you or too close to the propellers. The attacking ship wold loose contact as the prop noise would blank out the return. Thaks one reason modern ASW ships, adn subs, have towed array systems.

  • @SuperCatacata

    @SuperCatacata

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@frosty3693old subs were so damn slow underwater that it really wasn't easy for them to "get away"

  • @octane781
    @octane78111 күн бұрын

    "Why don't you just throw the depth charge off the bow as a mortar?" Johnnie Walker: :O

  • @TeddyBear-ii4yc
    @TeddyBear-ii4yc3 ай бұрын

    The time issue solved by the (above) ahead throwing weapons wasn't the 'loss of contact' per se, it was the system of using depth charges. To depth charge a sub a warship used to have to sail along it's course and drop the DCs beyond it so they'd sink and the sub would hopefully sail into the exploding pattern. The deeper the sub, the longer the DCs would take to sink to that depth. This is why in the old films you see the sub capt. order a big course correction as the ship passed over. The other part of the attack system, asdic, was shown above. ASDIC was a fixed beam* aimed at an angle forwards & down and as the ship passed over the sub they'd lose contact. This is when the sub would jink. *As the war progressed newer asdic sets would appear with changable beams, etc. But it was the asdic loss of contact & the period it took for the DCs to descend.

  • @whyalwaysme2522
    @whyalwaysme25223 ай бұрын

    El Juanito Caminante Great Scotch, No rules, only depth charges.

  • @beanspud88
    @beanspud883 ай бұрын

    As a point, we always had the hedgehog in use.. they just didnt realise its worth until later. Many captains tried to have them removed and on inspections it was common to find them unmaintained. This is from captains logs at the time available for anyone to read up on fyi.

  • @neurofiedyamato8763
    @neurofiedyamato87633 ай бұрын

    I have my doubts about the other DD being entirely stationary. It would take a lot of time to get those turbines spinning and the ship up to any sort of speed afterwards. Especially if this failed, it would be a vulnerable target for the submarine. The sub might bot be stationary either butbiust running at very low RPM to stay hidden. But if its getting pinfed, they'd know. Besides the sub would be using diesel or electric at a lower tonnage, much easier to get up to speed than 1000 ton DD using oil fired steam boilers and turbines. I haven't found much sources going in deoth about this except a short wikipedia artlce with similar descriptions as this video and it only cites to books but no specific in line citations. Anyways, IDK how accurate all this is. To me it would make more sense for the other DDs to just move slower rather than completely stopping.

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    I think the description is simplified. The actual technique was very complicated. The overall concept is correct. One scanning and one attacking

  • @FreeFallingAir
    @FreeFallingAir3 ай бұрын

    Freaking legendary badassery of a name. Those WW2 destroyers we're really something else

  • @quickattackfilms7923
    @quickattackfilms7923Ай бұрын

    The idea of being inside a submarine getting hit with bombs is terrifying.

  • @jjinglenuts
    @jjinglenuts3 ай бұрын

    You can understand Johnny Walker and make this system a creeping walker.

  • @charlespittsjr604
    @charlespittsjr60423 күн бұрын

    What a name. Good wiskey .

  • @christophergraves5687
    @christophergraves5687Ай бұрын

    Beautifully simple/brilliant perfect. As an infantry man, this is like a specialized pincher movement

  • @MauriceLeviejr
    @MauriceLeviejr3 ай бұрын

    Captain walker lost his son in war. He wanted REVENGE

  • @dohnjoe9211

    @dohnjoe9211

    3 ай бұрын

    Take your revenge, oh-oh, oh-oh

  • @diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754
    @diegoviniciomejiaquesada47543 ай бұрын

    Jhonny Walker, Keep Sailing.

  • @adammcd9424
    @adammcd9424Ай бұрын

    Johnny Walker is a good drop

  • @tnecniv1952
    @tnecniv19522 ай бұрын

    His periscope in his mouth is a nice touch

  • @side-fish
    @side-fish2 ай бұрын

    Creepwalking, Johnny Walker.

  • @qwe095
    @qwe0952 ай бұрын

    Fantastic short. I was actually looking into anti-submarine tactics during WW2 after listening to stories of Japanese Uboat captains. No wonder they lost so many submarine so suddenly.

  • @johnvalencia7488
    @johnvalencia74883 ай бұрын

    Oh that Johnny was a smart bloke.

  • @edastro7707
    @edastro77073 ай бұрын

    I love this channel.

  • @RoboticDragon
    @RoboticDragon3 ай бұрын

    Cool never heard of this before.

  • @wadesharp11
    @wadesharp11Ай бұрын

    They named a bourbon after him in memory. Johnny Walker. Nah jokes😂

  • @thedarkerarchery3553
    @thedarkerarchery3553Ай бұрын

    When I buy Johnny Walker I drink like a sailor... it's so smooth it hits me later and I'm neutralized, which is the real creeping attack... 🤣

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome20232 ай бұрын

    I have yet to Wake Up wishing I had drank Johnny Walker the night before !

  • @JKinder313
    @JKinder3133 ай бұрын

    As soon as I heard "the hedgehog" and "squid" I instantly got C&C: Red Alert vibes. They should be seriously considered as units in any RA4 reboot. 😭😭

  • @knuckledragger2412
    @knuckledragger24122 ай бұрын

    Could you imagine being inside a sub taking fire from depth charges? Terrifying no doubt

  • @jmatt781
    @jmatt7813 ай бұрын

    Man, the fear and claustrophobia of being on a sub that's getting outsmarted and hammered by depth charges back then....

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    At the end of the war 80% death rate on leaving on a mission.

  • @willfungusman8666
    @willfungusman86663 ай бұрын

    Uhuh and what did Captain Morgan come up with?

  • @constantinvasiliev2065
    @constantinvasiliev20653 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Very interesting

  • @00Snake77
    @00Snake773 ай бұрын

    They showed this tactic in the movie Greyhound

  • @Jthuma
    @Jthuma2 ай бұрын

    Axle folley invented the banana in the tailpipe move.

  • @TheSirrandal
    @TheSirrandal12 күн бұрын

    Ironically it was the USS England that set records sinking Japanese subs using a Hedgehog.

  • @DaveSoCal
    @DaveSoCal3 ай бұрын

    Read the book, great innovative captain

  • @MadSpectro7
    @MadSpectro73 ай бұрын

    Interesting thing is that I used to play war on the sea and basically came up with the same tactic for hunting subs in the campaign.

  • @clemsondriver9214

    @clemsondriver9214

    3 ай бұрын

    I played "Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter" and came up with that tactic there too. I was always annoyed at losing contact and having to reacquire so i told one of my AI escort teammates to come nearby and keep tracking the enemy sub with their sonar so that it was a lot easier/faster to reacquire.

  • @Jacmac1
    @Jacmac12 ай бұрын

    The Hedgehog was the downfall of Uboats. That system was a death sentence to any Uboat detected.

  • @user-fv8bo2ek2b
    @user-fv8bo2ek2bАй бұрын

    The second corvette which kept sonar contact was not stationary. That would have been suicidal.

  • @comcastjohn
    @comcastjohn3 ай бұрын

    Absolute genius. RIP sir!

  • @ArchonShon
    @ArchonShon3 ай бұрын

    This is me in War On The Sea.

  • @denyel5214
    @denyel52143 ай бұрын

    I had als some loss of contacts after a night out with captain Jonny Walker.

  • @marcopagot4445
    @marcopagot44452 ай бұрын

    Being a player of aces of the deep and watching allied tactics means I'm weirdly interested in a topic i shouldn't be interested of

  • @Dusty7460
    @Dusty74603 ай бұрын

    where can I watch the full documentary ?

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott58432 ай бұрын

    The hedgehog system did need careful use. One US ship had the knack. Most did not and stopped their mortars too far away missing the submarine.

  • @Limubi1
    @Limubi111 сағат бұрын

    Hedgehogs were so effective!!

  • @Yojimbonh
    @YojimbonhАй бұрын

    Those poor guys...on both sides.

  • @n16161
    @n161613 ай бұрын

    Can’t think of a scarier way to die than “drowning inside submarine that is hit with depth charge.”

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    Bayonets are scary

  • @WhoThisMonkey
    @WhoThisMonkey3 ай бұрын

    I knew nothing about this prior to the video, but as the problem was first highlighted, I thought "why dont they throw the depth charges over the front instead?" Seemed like an obvious solution to me. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @thinkordie7292
    @thinkordie72923 ай бұрын

    A Naval suckered punch 🥊

  • @markpaul-ym5wg
    @markpaul-ym5wg3 ай бұрын

    Thank you.I always wondered how that works.

  • @AugmentedGravity
    @AugmentedGravity3 ай бұрын

    Cpt Johnny Walker?? Is he the one the whiskey is named after?

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    The whiskey is named after him.

  • @knoll9812

    @knoll9812

    3 ай бұрын

    😮

  • @rdleahey
    @rdleahey2 ай бұрын

    I just can’t get my head around this: not knowing anything, I would guess that depth charges would be the more effective weapon because, unlike the hedgehog, it does not have to make physical contact. A depth charge could explode many feet away from a sub and take the sub out.

  • @sweetsunnyvibes
    @sweetsunnyvibes3 ай бұрын

    Wouldn't the U-Boot also depend on hearing, other than sonar alone though? There is no such thing as "creeping up" with rotor blades

  • @vladyMarcusLL
    @vladyMarcusLL3 ай бұрын

    So he invented the Johnny Walker whiskey 🥃 😅

  • @kiereluurs1243
    @kiereluurs12433 ай бұрын

    How so, this 'loss of contact'? And how so 'Stationary', if the U-boot moves?

  • @adrianrivera8425
    @adrianrivera84252 ай бұрын

    Poor boys. Under water. Out sonared

  • @Bad_Wolf788
    @Bad_Wolf788Ай бұрын

    Legend has he came up with the idea after a heavy night of drinking scotch.

  • @st0rmrider
    @st0rmrider3 ай бұрын

    It would be better if the attack was called Whiskers

  • @brucelownhole
    @brucelownhole3 ай бұрын

    Hedgehogs are lovely though.

  • @zacsayer1818
    @zacsayer18183 ай бұрын

    Rule Britannia!

  • @texasforever7887

    @texasforever7887

    3 ай бұрын

    Pax Americana

  • @jeffreyestahl
    @jeffreyestahl3 ай бұрын

    This is the approach I use in games involving submarines. I don't rush to depth charge them unless it's an emergency. I always make sure to achieve contact with at least 2 DD/DEs first. Then they can take turns dropping as well, increasing the intensity of ASW.

  • @cloroxbleach9222

    @cloroxbleach9222

    3 ай бұрын

    Man what game are you playing

  • @jeffreyestahl

    @jeffreyestahl

    3 ай бұрын

    @@cloroxbleach9222 "War on the Sea" specifically, but "Submarine Hunter" or "Destroyer" and other DD based games suffice too.

  • @randomlycasual4941

    @randomlycasual4941

    3 ай бұрын

    I love how good war on the seas submarine combat is. It’s a shame that most people don’t do asw only sub and complain asw is broken

  • @shipsability

    @shipsability

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jeffreyestahl Have you tried silent hunter 3? (with mods) I recommend it if you want to try being the submrine.

  • @tigertiger1699
    @tigertiger16993 ай бұрын

    Curls my toes…. Can’t imagine being in either…🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete123 ай бұрын

    I wonder at the intellect of some of these people who write these comments !

  • @himijendrix7900
    @himijendrix79003 ай бұрын

    I stumbled upon this tactic by sheer luck in world on the sea.

  • @dumptrump3788
    @dumptrump37882 ай бұрын

    If this was a German Kreisgmarine tactic, the comments would be filled with opinions that would all end with ".....if they'd developed this sooner, then WW2 might very turned out very different"

  • @Andrew-zw9fi
    @Andrew-zw9fi3 ай бұрын

    The creeping attack is the hung over from last night drinking with Johnny Walker, damn empty bottle !

  • @SG003
    @SG0033 ай бұрын

    I thought Johnny Walker sells alcohol

  • @ducklinglibrary7941
    @ducklinglibrary794118 күн бұрын

    Johnny walker second harvest

  • @marvelinofirmansyah1452
    @marvelinofirmansyah145223 күн бұрын

    It's like you had a baret with no scope and binoculars you can only use 1 in 1 time

  • @AHEUTUBE
    @AHEUTUBE3 ай бұрын

    Ahh, it's the Wingman 😂

  • @elvato667
    @elvato6673 ай бұрын

    Good whiskey, good tactics

  • @WalletWorrier
    @WalletWorrier2 ай бұрын

    "Clever girl"

  • @biyahenibryan3051
    @biyahenibryan30513 ай бұрын

    Hold my whisky lads😅😅😅

  • @annedejong1040
    @annedejong10402 ай бұрын

    Greyhound just as good;-)

  • @fastattacktough688i6
    @fastattacktough688i63 ай бұрын

    Bi-Static ranging.

  • @paulsarnik8506
    @paulsarnik85063 ай бұрын

    It's Captain Morgan!😮 Johnny Walker is whiskey! 🤓😎✌🏻

  • @ianmacfarlane1241

    @ianmacfarlane1241

    3 ай бұрын

    *Whisky. Johnny Walker, being Scottish brand uses this spelling. Irish and American brands use the "whiskey" spelling. Whisky comes from the Gaelic term Uisge Beatha.

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong76552 ай бұрын

    Sounds great in theory, but it's assuming the enemy will stay perfectly in one spot and waiting for you to drop the charges on them and won't fire back. Good luck trying this in real combat.

  • @twat9192

    @twat9192

    Ай бұрын

    Do you know how boats move?

  • @stevenphillips3466
    @stevenphillips34662 ай бұрын

    then there was the " Creep Attack" . Used by SImp dudes in Bars while trying to pick up 304's

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin3 ай бұрын

    It's destroyers, hunting in packs basically

  • @timothyparker4896
    @timothyparker48963 ай бұрын

    How many unexploded hedgehogs are on the bottom ?

  • @mryfw
    @mryfw3 ай бұрын

    Johnny Walker his real name??? And his enemy is Captain Morgan???

  • @natedorney7032
    @natedorney70322 ай бұрын

    The scotch guy???

  • @tssteelx
    @tssteelx3 ай бұрын

    Is ot required for navey personnel to smoke a pipe?

  • @TheGodParticle
    @TheGodParticle2 ай бұрын

    I'd rather go over the top than be a sub officer.

  • @Calidore1
    @Calidore13 ай бұрын

    Can't imagine the terror in a u boot under barrage..

  • @nootypenguino
    @nootypenguino2 ай бұрын

    Interesting