Today, I learned "ts" and "pf" are hard to pronounce for some people.

@professorracc.9780

8 жыл бұрын

+Fidel Squire they're so easy, I never thought people would have a hard time with those either.

@GraveUypo

8 жыл бұрын

well, the "ão" diphthong is easy as fuck to me to pronounce but i've never seen a native english speaker pronounce it correctly. so yeah. i don't even know why i'm saying this since i have no trouble pronouncing either ts or pf. i really don't like pf though.

@professorracc.9780

8 жыл бұрын

***** oh yeah, i'd never put that in a conlang.

@parthiancapitalist2733

5 жыл бұрын

My conlang has pf, ts, kx

@throatychunk

5 жыл бұрын

100th like! I knew giving someone the ability of getting the 300th like would pay off! What I did is get the 299th like so someone else could get the 300th!

"Let's add the bilabial trill," they said. "It's easy to pronounce," they said.

@alanp741

7 жыл бұрын

I know right?!

@Croz89

7 жыл бұрын

Ever tried to imitate a 2-stroke engine when you were younger? It's pretty much that. Force air out of closed lips so they vibrate.

@trec-davidrojasquinonez9145

4 жыл бұрын

I cannot pronounce the bilabial trill

@A.K2.718

4 жыл бұрын

Pf is hard to pronounce they said

@Mr.Nichan

3 жыл бұрын

And yet [ts] is hard?

As a German who grew up with grandparents speaking Hungarian, Polish and Jiddish, and who had Latin in school and learned Italian, French and Spanish for fun, this was quite funny to watch, especially as you dropped the 'pf' and struggled to roll the R 😅

@deadmanomegagaming4061

3 жыл бұрын

i think even the plain old english speakers were a bit confused. bw is not easy, pf and ts is not hard (although i may be aspirating it unintentionally) and technically we have the alveolar trill in some dialects of English although those dialects have sadly fallen out of use. i mean. why would we have a way of describing, which is to roll my r's, it if we didn't have it in English

@beefairy8620

2 жыл бұрын

I gave up on spanish because I couldn’t pronounce half the words correctly since I can’t roll my r’s :(

@TheUnforgiven59

2 жыл бұрын

Yiddish.

@papaicebreakerii8180

2 жыл бұрын

@@beefairy8620 it just takes practice and you need a relaxed mouth to properly pronounce it(which might your issue)

@editname6868

2 жыл бұрын

@@papaicebreakerii8180 yeah it’s actually one of the easiest sound for me to makes

When Xidnaf was talking about how the “ts” sound is hard, he literally used it in “pronounce”.

@terner1234

4 жыл бұрын

צ

@rosiefay7283

4 жыл бұрын

The 'ts' sound, not a [t] followed by a [s].

@stratis5360

4 жыл бұрын

@@terner1234 ץ

@terner1234

4 жыл бұрын

@@stratis5360 שנינו צודקים

@stratis5360

4 жыл бұрын

@@terner1234 אני בקושי מכיר את העברית

No Xidnafs were hurt during the making of this video.

@sven8947

8 жыл бұрын

xD

@Colteor7761

7 жыл бұрын

You sure about that?

@sofijeffrey9797

6 жыл бұрын

One was

@robertruiz2595

5 жыл бұрын

Not physically

@unneccry2222

5 жыл бұрын

you sure?

I'm an Irish teacher (Gaeilge), and also speak many other languages. I've been constructing languages since I was 7 yrs. old (43 years). Most of my life I couldn't even describe to people what I was doing, and if I could, they would think me crazy, so I just kept it to myself. I'm overjoyed to see other people with the same hobby, and interacting with each other.

@amfvideos6810

9 ай бұрын

Go deas, a mhuinteoir

1:44 "at least one unrounded vowel" *highlights the only rounded vowel*

@allisond.46

4 жыл бұрын

Oops.

@probablynotyou9286

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's saying the opposite

@muffinhead2164

3 жыл бұрын

@@probablynotyou9286 nope, the rule is definitely unrounded vowels. there are languages in the world with only unrounded vowels (like alekano which has /e i ɑ ɤ ɯ/)

@probablynotyou9286

3 жыл бұрын

@@muffinhead2164 I meant pointing out what not talking about if that makes sense

@r4d1u58

3 жыл бұрын

@@muffinhead2164 that's a cool inventory I will now use it for my clong

YES after hours of work i finally have my phonetic inventory done!. onto swear words

@VanNessy97

2 жыл бұрын

YES

@donovantownshend8783

2 жыл бұрын

did you put in the grammer?

@tvre0

Жыл бұрын

Pf you. It’s great because nobody can pronounce it

This is it. I've found my people: linguistic nerds!

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+sammy3212321 Welcome to the circle! Those who seek shall find.

@maxshulman-litwin3497

6 жыл бұрын

Yessssss same

@adiginist

6 жыл бұрын

i'm a half-linguistic nerd

@stardustpan

5 жыл бұрын

Me too :D

@user-ex6nx2cl9t

5 жыл бұрын

Me too!

"pf"? Does that even exist in human language?! Xidnaf, my god!. My home town's name starts with a Pf :(

@amberjl6689

4 жыл бұрын

PFFFFFFFFt

@Error403HRD

4 жыл бұрын

@@amberjl6689 i laughed and now i've lost years off my life soan

@allisond.46

4 жыл бұрын

Pftburg?

@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580

4 жыл бұрын

a street where near i live is "pfrimmers chapel"

@-hello6177

4 жыл бұрын

@@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580 pfff rimmers chapel

Everyone remember: Do whatever you want, there is an island tribe that only uses whistles for sounds. go crazy!

>"I'm thinking some of these plosives need to go." > only /p/ /b/ /t/ /d/ /k/ /g/ are on the chart Ohhh no not like this

@sapphoenixthefirebird5063

2 жыл бұрын

One of my conlangs, Arthean, has only 2 plosives; /b/ and /d/. I have reasons for this. /t/ and /p/ lenited into /θ/ and /f/ respectively, while /k/ and /g/ both turned into /h/ (alongside /x/ and /q/).

Come on Xidnaf, stop your whinging we all know you were having a ball

@jaybellsaoi1228

6 жыл бұрын

Truthfully, we all know that you loved it, Xidnaf.

@kieronbrown73

5 жыл бұрын

Don't stop him now

@kieronbrown73

5 жыл бұрын

He's having a ball

@amiruliman5

2 жыл бұрын

@@kieronbrown73 ah the good old queen song

So Xidnaf can pronounce that weird uvular trill but thinks "pf" is hard? pfff

@NeilSonOfNorbert

8 жыл бұрын

+Fummy it is all relative, my French experience makes uvular trill easy.

@Dafisha

8 жыл бұрын

+Fummy haha puns

@valentinmitterbauer4196

8 жыл бұрын

In Austria (and Bavaria) we know this r-trill (from italy) and /pf/ (from german) Bavarian word for priest: Pfoara

@connwonn

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel Nýdrle uvular trills are actually relatively rare and many consider it a difficult sound to produce. it is more commonly realized as a fricative/approximate. alveolar trills are far more common/universal.

@valentinmitterbauer4196

8 жыл бұрын

***** The english "r" is actually very uncommon. I don't know any other language containing this sound. I prefer sticking to my rrrrrrrrrrrras! (Which is coincidentally the bavarian word for "intense")

Some tips for your phoneme inventory: 3:02 Adding diphthongs with the shwa might also make it sound interesting. 3:13 Having all voiced plosive is very rare, but having all voiceless plosives is not that uncommon, just take a look at the Polynesian languages. (Na'vi's inventory was also mildly inspired by Polynesian languages). However, having a voicing distinction in fricatives, but not plosives, is extremely unlikely without having voiced plosives as some sort of allophones. 4:00 Not having the glottal stop is also completely fine. 4:52 /ʍ/ is actually a fricative. It is also labio-velar, meaning you can place it in the labial or velar column (or both) instead of placing it outside of the chart. 5:52 You don't need to add the velar fricative: consonant symmetry is a tendency, not a rule. Some phonemes like plosives tend to follow it more than, say, fricatives and especially approximants. And having some asymmetry can definitely make things interesting. Tips for organizations: You can condense your phoneme inventory to just 4 places of articulation: labial, coronal, dorsal, and glottal. This is become some places of articulation like bilabial and labio-dental, or palatal, velar, and uvular never overlap. Also: you might wanna specify that /ɹ/ is an English /ɹ/. Since the way /ɹ/ is pronounced in English is actually sth like a postalveolar approximant, rather than alveolar.

7:18 you could say it's......trrrrrrrragic ok i'm going bye

@krystofv6917

7 жыл бұрын

No don't go puns are very precious and needed

@oz_jones

5 жыл бұрын

bragic, since Oa has a bilabial trill :p

@unneccry2222

5 жыл бұрын

es bueno

@smartart6841

3 жыл бұрын

Dont go

@deadmanomegagaming4061

3 жыл бұрын

im pretty sure the r in tragic isn't an alveolar approsimant but the tr is a voiceless palato-alveolar sibilant affricate

ts... It's like so unbelivably easy... Granted I am a chinese native speaker but...

@OllieWales

8 жыл бұрын

If someone can't make that sound, I would doubt if the person who taught them english was could actually speak it

@lobsterbark

8 жыл бұрын

+tuxcup I am a native english speaker, and I don't have any trouble with it either. I don't have any problems with "pf" in "pferd" either.

@alpujugo

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel Nýdrle here in Colombia we say s, c and z the same

@linka3177

8 жыл бұрын

If you really don't know how to pronounce /ts/ just say "pizza" ^^

@linka3177

8 жыл бұрын

***** But with the affricative /ts/ or separate /t/ and /s/? Dunno, I always pronounce it with the affricate, but I'm not a native English speaker.

Even if a known language doesn't do it, you can still do it in a conlang :P

@colltonrighem

6 жыл бұрын

Ben DuMonde /r̼/ anyone?

@blue9139

5 жыл бұрын

Oh /ouhnhh/ My lenguace... PLEASE stop

@senesterium

5 жыл бұрын

/r̃/

@Ggdivhjkjl

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, though do consider how you might go about teaching people how to say such sounds.

@therealjumin1941

5 жыл бұрын

Collton Righem no i like the (/ɹf/)

In 1984, I created my own conlang, which I eventually named it Galeh Yuvo. It means "To simply be." It pulls from seven different languages because they happen to have different traits that can be found in this language. It has five vowels only, 20 consonants, and one symbol that functions as a vowel retainer and does not have an inherent vowel of its own (its a "21st" consonant with a vowel that comes from the vowel sound before it). First, vowels are arranged first, and then the consonants come next arranged in groups of four letters (five groups) that have one of the five vowel sounds. This is almost like an abjad writing system in that you may see words with no vowel sounds written in it, so you would have to know those consonants' inherent vowel sounds to pronounce the word. BUT, I write it like an abugida writing system with a few differences from Sanskrit. This is a "what you see is what you say language," like Sanskrit minus the sandhi rules. Numerals are also 10 digits, and there is a very systematic way of counting so you do not spend so much time and memory space memorizing them. The digits themselves on paper look like a drawing progression from one number to the next, except for zero, which doesn't look like it has any relation to the other nine numbers, graphically. I have a font on my laptop, so if I need to have a critical password or data sheet here, I just type it up, applying the font to it, and then screen shot it, and don't save the text file. No one would be able to apply an algorithm on the text itself to determine vocabulary origin because the file would be a graphic file and not a text file. AND it is an undocumented language (no instructions have been published online to date). I can post it in a public building's wall, and nobody would be able to read it. The cool thing is, vocabulary can be generated from a few languages using an algorithm to "create" the vocabulary without having to guess how it might sound or whatever might be thrown together. I use the writing system to this day in my check book. This is about as much as I am willing to give out.

@stephanieellison7834

Жыл бұрын

Update. I recently discovered through learning a bit about Telugu in that how words are ended with vowels is similar to what was done in Old Telugu. It used to be that in Old Telugu, all words ended in vowels without exception, as is currently the case in Galeh Yuvo. Today, Telugu currently terminates some words with certain consonants, but Telugu is still a beautiful language to listen to.

Me: "Alveolar trill is nice. I could do that." Artifexian: "I can't pronounce alveolar trills. Let's do bilabial trills instead, it's really easy to pronounce." Me: "Bfff... bvvvv... bwwwww... crap..."

@trec-davidrojasquinonez9145

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

@trec-davidrojasquinonez9145

4 жыл бұрын

but of course i can pronounce the ALVEOAR TRILL. Now it is not fair to make a language that includes a sound that i CANNOT pronounce and EXCLUDE a sound that i CAN pronounce.

@atticus190

3 жыл бұрын

For biabal trills try to imate a engine

@kakahass8845

2 жыл бұрын

Just don't use the muscles on your lips and blow air.

@arlenderkaloussian7560

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god how is that even possible to mess up

My mother tongue has a rolling r and I can't pronounce it. It's called a 'speech defect' but I could speak languages that don't have it just fine, so it's more like a language defect.

@Cyberspine

7 жыл бұрын

James Lolan Finnish

@idk-nm8xr

7 жыл бұрын

i Speak Cave man. Ku ka tak! Dos fui.(Oh My God The fuck) thats what it said.

@shockine

7 жыл бұрын

I pity you. "Perkele" has lots of more power with a rolling r.

@dulledmemory4776

7 жыл бұрын

+James Lolan I'm an English speaker who speaks in RP and can't roll my Rs... so I suppose I'm speaking a new language now!!

@parthiancapitalist2733

7 жыл бұрын

Cyberspine i can trill my r's and make an epiglottal

first!

@joakker8820

8 жыл бұрын

YOU'RE ALIVE

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Xidnaf I tried to get a first on your video but failed miserably! :P

@27danjel

8 жыл бұрын

+Xidnaf Why are you so fat in this video?

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Lavandia Haha...ye but I love the "first" culture. Its a cool quirk unique to youtube. Plus, one must never block a Xidnaf in the wild.

@moth.monster

8 жыл бұрын

+27danjel Hey. Don't be rude.

"Dental fricatives (a feature found in a single digit percent of all languages) are out." "Wait why?" Smh xidnaf

@user-jr7ww2gf1h

4 жыл бұрын

Kayleigh Lehrman yeah like he’s all scared of normal things like only 3 plosives

@ineednochannelyoutube5384

4 жыл бұрын

They are ubiquitous in all slavic, neopatin and germanic languages, they are in Altayic, Finno Ugroc, Chinese and Japanese, what do you mean found in a single percentage? Maybe you missed a not.

@qwxzy1265

3 жыл бұрын

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 What are you talking about? Only like 4 germanic languages have dental fricatives, and I don't think any of the other languages you mentioned have them. If they do, I doubt they have them as _phonemes_ Edit: I just quickly checked through at least 40% the Wikipedia pages for the languages in the language families you listed. Literally none of them have dental fricatives mentioned even as allophones. I've never even heard of those language families having dental fricatives (except for germanic languages) The only languages on the list I know have dental fricatives are Icelandic, Faroese, Elfdalian, and English, most of which are closely related. Also the Germanic languages in general are highly unique when it comes to phonetics

@qwxzy1265

3 жыл бұрын

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 What are you talking about? Only like 4 germanic languages have dental fricatives, and I don't think any of the other languages you mentioned have them. If they do, I doubt they have them as _phonemes_

@exciton9861

2 жыл бұрын

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Wtf did you mean when you say Japanese and chinese has dental fricatives, they clearly don't have them

8:27 My native language is Polish, wich has /ts/ (typed as 'c' like in Esperanto) and I'm study Japanese. And I know that Poles sadly say tsunami like in English :( They don't know that This is like 'cunami'. 2022 UPDATE: I'm now a fluent Esperanto speaker but I give up learning Japanese. Maybe I try again later.

@bisexualbean2529

4 жыл бұрын

Amadeusz Terczewski Cool! I’m learning Japanese too! Of course, I practically have to, considering my aunt and cousins only speak Japanese and refuse to learn English.

@user-tk2jy8xr8b

4 жыл бұрын

Yay, in Russian it's "цунами" which corresponds to what-would-be-Polish "cunami" btw

@amadeosendiulo2137

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-tk2jy8xr8b Oh, sorry that I answer like 6 month later, dude... I mean Denis-san (Dienis or Denis?) Yeah, Polish language should have it's own transtription of Japanese just like Russian has! They say: "Polish using latin alphopet so it MUST use Hepburn's system! But I know languege wich also uses litin and has it's own transcription for Japanese. I'm writing about the Eperanto! (*Anthem starts playing:* "En la mondon venis nova sento, tra la mondo iras forta voko...") It's like: ch -> ĉ j -> ĝ or ĵ sh -> ŝ ts -> c w -> ŭ y - j And in Polish we distinguish sounds: [ʃ] "sz" (sh/ш) and [ɕ] "ś" or "si" or just "s" in "si" (Japanese "sh') [ʧ] "cz" (ch/ч) and [t͡ɕ] "ć" or "ci" or just "c" in "ci" (ћ/Japanese "ch") [ʤ] "dź" (j/џ) and [ʥ] "dź" or "dzi" or just "dz" in "dzi" (ђ/ Japanese "j") [z̪] "z" (z/з) and [ʣ] "dz" (ѕ or Japanese "z") So hepburn to Polish ortography (with "śi" instead of "si" etc.): ch -> ć j -> dź sh -> ś ts -> c v -> w w -> ł y -> j z -> dz So eg.:「ごちそうさまでした」"Gochisōsamadeshita" "гоцисōсамадесіта", "goĉisōsamaseŝita" would be: "Goćisōsamadeśita" But when write in Polish I do something another: 「ごちそうさまでした」gochisōsamadeshita (czytaj: goćisoosamadeśta) "Czytaj" means "read [as]" Theres suble o instead of ō and shita is śta :)

@user-tk2jy8xr8b

3 жыл бұрын

@@amadeosendiulo2137 Right, czytaj is читай, isn't that cool how Slavic langs are mutually (at least to some degree) intelligible? Too bad we have no letters for [ʑ], [t͡ʂ], [d͡ʐ], [d͡ʑ], [d͡z], [d͡zʲ] and [t͡sʲ], which makes lang asymmetric. I would transcribe your example ごちそうさまでした (\ɡo.tɕi.soː.sa.ma.de.ɕi.ta\) as гочсо-осамадэщта, but система Поливанова (Polivanov system), used in Russian, would give готисоусамадэсита (/ɡo.tʲi.sou.sa.ma.de.cʲi.ta/) which doesn't look adequate to me

@stassmykla8130

3 жыл бұрын

i am polish too niech żyją polacy ale nasz rząd jest do d***

Okay, as a writer, I can say that this is literally one of the most helpful channels I've ever come across. Thank you so much

You should make up a writing system too.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Duffy All in good time. Next step will be grammar.

@KaelGen

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian what is your opinions on french/german/english grammar ? which would you judge to be harder ? and for what reason ? I'm a native french speaker, and I have the most issues with french grammar, German to me is easy enough but the length of words and the case ending stuff is a bit annoying. To me, the easiest language is English, as everything is really intuitive, no need to learn grammar really, just write what sounds best and it's usually right (unless your pronunciation isn't on point, so having an accent ruins the fun here) Great videos, keep doing awesome work, it's really fun to watch :)

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Mickaël Morgen I can't speak french so I won't comment on it's grammar but I find German very difficult. Not so much the compound words but more the gender stuff! Der, die das...drives me mad. English, in this regard, is by far and away the easiest of the bunch.

@KaelGen

8 жыл бұрын

Artifexian for the gender stuff in german I just choose what sounds best, mostly right, the more annoying thing is when writing in English for example but you have your brain switched on German ... and you start writing stuff like Englisch ... sch sch sch SCH EVERYWHERE >:c

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Mickaël Morgen Haha...can't say I've ever had this problem :) Because I've lost most of my German, I can't rely on 'it feels right' my brain has forgotten that feeling. Endlessly frustrating.

0:32 Actually, I'm already working on a conlang made of sounds just what the human mouth can produce as a joke.

2:58 That's Cranky from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic! I actually found these videos while looking for inspiration for an FIM fanfic... I have four distinct cultures I'm working with: PONIES - a fractious and wide-spread race. Ancient languages are based off of Norse (Earth Ponies), Gaelic (Pegasi), and Old French (Unicorns), but "Standard" is a heavily tinkered with English with a lot of loan words. (humans were involved. Nuff said.) GRYPHONS - hearty mountain folk that are very much based on the kingdoms of Germany. Very High-Fantasy-Gothic. CHANGELINGS - heavily inspired by ancient India. Changelings are shapeshifters, so their voiceboxes can make a HUGE variety of sounds. Though they intentionally try to keep their language as simple as possible, for trade if nothing else. (a bit like the video!) THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE - A Pony kingdom stuck in a time loop for 1000 years. Their language is more... horsey. Chuffs, neighs, etc., are used as context clues, vocal punctuation, and verbal shorthand. They never encountered the humans that helped create Standard. - I'm not very far along, but I love the channel so far!

I made up a own language called "Silgne" based on English, which is totally easy, because it's 100% phonetic and has the easy grammar rules of English... I spent over 2 years working on it, and finally it's kinda done :D

@swfreak258

8 жыл бұрын

I would already, if I knew, if anyone would like to learn it xD

@swfreak258

8 жыл бұрын

xD But where?

@dioandronas6269

8 жыл бұрын

On KZread dummy xD

@the11382

8 жыл бұрын

+atzurblau How is "Silgne" pronounced? /silgne/? also: [sil gne] or [silg ne]?

@swfreak258

8 жыл бұрын

ist [ˈsɪlg nə]

Dude, come on. All of those affricates are super easy. Way easier than a bilabial trill.

@larho9031

5 жыл бұрын

I can't pronounce /B/. *MY LIPS ARE TOO DRY*

@ToddKeck98

4 жыл бұрын

Way easier than most fricatives too

@CompactStar

4 жыл бұрын

Bilabial trill is basically a b plus a rolled r?

@gunarsmiezis9321

4 жыл бұрын

@M Green That would be trilled P not B.

@tldoesntlikebread

4 жыл бұрын

@@gunarsmiezis9321 P is an unvoiced B

6:55 that comparison Xidnaf made is in my eyes rather immature, being that the Icelandic word for butt is "Rass"

@unneccry2222

5 жыл бұрын

xD

@unneccry2222

5 жыл бұрын

in arabic its head

@dollykumo2959

4 жыл бұрын

@@unneccry2222 what ? I'm Arabic and that's not true ...

@tibethatguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@dollykumo2959 That could be something dialectal.

@RazvanMaioru

2 жыл бұрын

In Romanian "ras" means "shaven", or "shaving" as a noun (so shaving cream would be "gel de ras")

As a spanish speaker ... just damn keep pronunciation consistent and pronounce it as its written! it makes things a lot easier

@wintergray1221

2 жыл бұрын

In my high school Spanish class, they didn't tell us about all the allophones, lack of aspirated consonants etc. I was always complimented on my pronunciation. Then I tried talking to an actual Spanish speaker and they informed me how bad my accent was.

@balamstudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@wintergray1221 I imagine. Spanish is very easy to pronounce because of that, probably the easiest romance language in that regard, but grammar...that's a whole different story because it's incredibly precise in conyugations.

@kamota8523

4 ай бұрын

​@@balamstudiosWhy did you mention grammar, if they were talking about their problems with the pronunciation? Also, Spanish is definitely not the easiest Romance language to pronounce, it's probably not even the easiest Ibero-Romance language.

Wow i'm so disappointed that so many people pronounce "Sunami" instead of "Tsunami"

@gunjfur8633

6 жыл бұрын

Ronen Shachar I 100% agree 👌

@msanotorini3278

6 жыл бұрын

Lol in my country If you write the word "Tsunami" People will pronounce it as "Chunami"

@angeldude101

6 жыл бұрын

I'm on the other side of the Pacific from Japan. (ie: Canada.) Tsunami is "Sunami," but my hometown Tsawwassen is "Tawwassen". We're not even consistent with our inaccuracies.

@amj.composer

6 жыл бұрын

Ronen Shachar Thank You! people just keep making fun of me when i ask them to pronounce it differently.

@npc6924

6 жыл бұрын

They should appropriate the つ sound as "tu", because "su" is written す.

apparently Xidnaf has never heard of pizza...

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Visemano I think we both just wanted to get rid of affricates at any cost.

7:45 the uvular trill also is commonly realized as a fricative, and [x] is commonly uvular, so they work together for sound symmetry, being analyzed as [x] and [ɣ] or [χ] and [ʁ] or even [ʀ̥] and [ʀ], which I think is really neat

I've literally learned more about language/lingual sound structure in this 10 minute video than I have than in five years of studying English at school. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. None the less, stupendous video!

@brintabokka1393

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryford2532 Because in the UK, the study of the English Language is called English

xidnaf please make a video on the phonetic inventory, i mean about what the categories mean, how all the letters are pronounced and why sometimes there is no letter for a combination

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Oliver Sasur You should check out the other linguistics videos, they might help you out somewhat. goo.gl/KUng4y

@parthiancapitalist2733

6 жыл бұрын

VELAR TRILL IS POSSIBLE OLL UPLOAD A VIDEO OF ME DOING IT

@holdthatlforluigi

5 жыл бұрын

@@parthiancapitalist2733 you're probs doing a uvular trill

@parthiancapitalist2733

5 жыл бұрын

Hold That L For Luigi I feel it where I make k sounds

@holdthatlforluigi

5 жыл бұрын

Do you know how to say any uvular consonants? If not, it may end up feeling velar despite not being so.

You brought up the point about you not being able to roll you "r"s and I have an idea. There is a myth that Castillian Spanish has a "lisp", because one of the Spanish kings had one, and the nobles joined in, thus making a "lisp" seem aristocratic. Granted, this myth is debunked by a quick google search, but I think that it could be applied to your language, maybe... King Edgar the Magnificent could not roll his "r"s, so the nobles and aristocrats joined in. This is why the posh people of Artifexia do not roll their "r"s, but the peasantry and the people in the far-off land of Xidnafia, generally do. Either that or keep things the way they are, but I thought that may be a case if you were to talk about sound shifts, though that would only need to be brought up of you were to go as far as to talk about making a whole language family, and I undrestand that that is a VERY long way down the road. /Rao/!

@SpadesNoir

8 жыл бұрын

+Tsharli Foster (AdrenalineVan) I'm Spaniard and I don't know anything about a king having a lisp. If americans think we have a lisp, I think that's probably because in standart Spanish (the one they speak at the news) the "z" and "c" are indeed pronounced like the "th" in "thank you".

@adrenalinevan

8 жыл бұрын

Homeworld-Gamers That's what I meant. It's not actually a lisp, but when a "th" sound is made and spelled like a "c" it may sound like one to foreigners, leaving room for jokes. Also, you probably haven't heard of the king because it is a myth.

@universenerdd

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpadesNoir the fuck

@AkaiAzul

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrenalinevan It's funny to me. It sounds like a lisp, but I've also heard Spaniards not have it either. I liken it to the Canadian "eh," where they may not register it but is obvious to an American.

@adrenalinevan

2 жыл бұрын

@@AkaiAzul it's not universal throughout Spain and its also probably just a myth

Ah; having watched this playlist for the fifth time (and this video in particular) I finally have the phonetic inventory for my own language... Just commenting to say thanks for making this subject accessible : ) .

a) both you and Xidnaf are awesome. b) I also am enjoying the brainy comment sections on both channels' vids c) and... misspellings in technical, detailed comments illustrating the tiny differences of spelling/pronunciation are both confusing and fun.

Who the hell can pronounce the bilabial trill??? Even the uvular trill is easier than the bilabial... okay maybe I'm a little biased bc I'm from Germany And why is [pf] so hard? It's just [p] and [f]. Okay us northern Germans don't pronounce /pf/ the way it should be pronounced but we can do it too! And last but not least: trills are awesome (except the bilabial one)! Edit: well, that aged like milk... Why did I ever hate on [ʙ]? I love it and it's seriously easy to produce...

@MCArothin

8 жыл бұрын

+Hammahamann Move your tongue like you are making a motorboat sound and then move your lips like you are pronouncing "Ba"

@parthiancapitalist2733

6 жыл бұрын

Niku pfff

@jzaar7483

6 жыл бұрын

Yay! I can’t pronounce/B/ very easily and i really like /pf/ :3

@levonclark9604

6 жыл бұрын

Ye, I'm not German and haven't ever learnt it, the 'pf' is not very hard, same with the 'ts'

@emv...

6 жыл бұрын

Niku Hallo

Aaaaaah a artiflexian-xidnaf collan!

@noamtashma2859

8 жыл бұрын

*an

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Noam Tashma The best of conlangs!

@notoriouswhitemoth

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian I certainly enjoyed this - great collab! Personally, I'm partial to palatals; I imagine a lot of language nerds have some specific articulation they like to nerd out over ^^;;

@parthiancapitalist2733

7 жыл бұрын

Noam Tashma well apron was pronounced napron, but when people said a napron, they thought they were saying an apron. So a nartifexian maybe.

@larho9031

5 жыл бұрын

collab*

This is one of the coolest vids I've watched in a while. Learned way too much.

Just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I've been on a binge of them lately and it's inspired me to start work on my own (I do have fantasy races but no languages to go with them :p).

Definitely the nerdiest thing I've seen in a while

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Felicia Follum Can't argue with that it's nerd^100 up here.

@carsonscheer3557

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian a googol nerd!

@FeliciaFollum

8 жыл бұрын

:)

@apopheniacMCMLXXXIX

8 жыл бұрын

+Felicia Follum Two of my favorite channels doing a collab? Sign me up!

I loved this video! I lost it at "teet" instead of "teeth"! Probably because my family's form Dublin, but we're Southside, and not using th is more North? But my uncle's do... I don't know, but I really really enjoyed this video, love you and Xidnaf!

SO, as someone who lives in a very multi-lingual country, I can pronounce all of the letters on this list after just one or two tries. Rolling my Rs, that voiceless vealer fricative sound symbolised as x, the ts sound, the pf sound. Actually, the only language sounds I CAN'T replicate easily, aren't on this particular type of list! I guess I kind of assumed everyone could pronounce these, but now that I know I'm special, I am most chuffed.

it's so refreshing to hear a non-imperative "if you think i earned it, hit the subscribe button"

English speakers don't pronounce "ts" ???????????? - leT'S go - the tesTS are hard - it geTS cold - place your beTS - saturated faTS - I love caTS - iT'S weird - thaT'S not cool - I read KaTE'S blog - human righTS - lighTS off - loTS of videos - she texTS him everyday - United StaTES of America - he beaTS his opponenTS - the greatest hiTS of the 80's ...

@mr.parabola5051

6 жыл бұрын

They do, just generally not at the beginning of words.

@wug6175

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Parabola Tsar

@AngelValis

5 жыл бұрын

English speakers usually pronounce that ts as a z... same as Czar.

@soton4010

5 жыл бұрын

Most of those examples are consonants clusters not affricates. A good example of the ts affricate is in pizza. My dialects and the General Avery American dialect pronounce the first syllables ending in the ts affricate.

@sebastiansimon7557

5 жыл бұрын

What about “Za” as in kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5-ElKhwm7rUZ6Q.html ?

This is one of my favorite things ever! Also, if you want to include just one more sound, the welsh "ll" sound is lovely. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_and_alveolar_lateral_fricatives

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Leslie Colton I like that sound...but it just doesn't fit with my idea of what this language will be. Perhaps my next language could be a lateral heavy language.

I recently got back into trying to make a conlang, and by complete coincidence picked out almost the exact same vowel inventory as this, but with *u* rather than *o*

Why am I watching language videos ??? I don't understand anything what they're talking about, but i can't stop watching them!!

Honestly, as an English speaker, I was able to pronounce "ts" and "pf" when I first saw them, and it took me a while to realize things like "ch" or "j" were even affricates. I almost get not being able to roll your r's, but "pf" is like the easiest thing in the world. Also, I think I do a glottal stop not only between vowels but also at the start of words that ought to begin with vowels, to the extent that I have to add a faint "h" to *not* have a glottal stop. Is that weird?

It only make sense to include schwa if the language is stress timed, mind. A syllable timed language will tend to lack lack a schwa in its vowel inventory.

Wow I speak German and exactly the moment the other guy asked „Does any language even have pf“ I thought of the German word Pferd even before you mentioned it! This was really weird. Also here other examples Pflaume(plum), Pflanze(plant), Pfiff(whistle), Pfeife(pipe) and Pfand(deposit)

@WhizzKid2012

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking of pflanze

I was waiting for a conversation in this language but oh well. Nice work

Two of my favourite youtubers that deal with linguistics working together? This is like a dream come true! Lovely video guys, great job!

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Mickeal Van Der Haar Cheers, buddy. Glad you enjoyed. :)

Sounds fascinating. Although I've never created a language in this way so I'll certainly have to watch this space.

this is so cool!!!! I'm so glad these videos exist- I hope my worldbuilding gets better from now on xD

When you are a male german conlanger: *CONLANGERMAN*

@scptime1188

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh

Okay, I've gotten pretty far with my language! I've finished the sounds, alphabet, and grammar. Now I'm working on the words. Luckily, while I was doing the grammar, I came up with some of the words, like teba, which means "table" and pronounced with a bilabial trill at the B because my language lacks the voiced plosive /b/, so the trill is a substitute. I'm ready!

This is what I came up with for my language. Vowels: a, i, u, o Diphthongs: ai, au, ao, ia, iu, io, ua, ui, uo, oa, oi, ou Consonants: m, n, ŋ, p, t, k, ʔ, f, v, θ, ð, s, z, ʒ, x, ɹ, j, ʙ, r, ʀ, l Non-Pulmonic: ʘ, ǂ, ǁ Affricates: t͜s, p͡s, k͜θ I'm afraid I did to much adding and not enough subtracting, but maybe it's just a really primitive language.

@LeoL274

8 жыл бұрын

+Zaylon Ballard Nice clicks

@humanmusic6409

8 жыл бұрын

+DarkNES Yeah. I wanted it to sound exotic. Also, I tried to make them match with the consonants.

@grabern

6 жыл бұрын

Vowels - Monophthongs: e o a ɒ ə ɜ ɪ i ʊ u Diphthongs: ɪə ʊə eɪ ɒɪ oʊ aʊ Consonants - Plosives: pʰ p tʰ t ʈʰ ʈ cʰ c kʰ k ʔ Fricatives: ɸ β s z ʂ ʐ ç ʝ x ɣ Nasals: m n ɳ ɲ ŋ Approximants: β̞ ɹ ɻ j ɰ Phonotactics - 1. (C)(C)(C)V(C)(C) 2. Onset and Coda - All consonants 3. Nucleus - All vowels 4. Onset - Fricative + Plosive/Nasal + Approximant 5. Coda - (Obstruent + Sonorant) or (Fricative + Plosive) There, it's a bit formulaic and English-friendly but I'm happy with it.

@parthiancapitalist2733

6 жыл бұрын

Zaylon Ballard, idk why r and R would coexist

I’m an opera singer and voice teacher, and I miiiiiight be writing an article and lecture-recital about ‘u’.

I love who you collab with Xidnaf

Don't you worry - I'm a native speaker of Polish but I'm unable to pronounce the alveolar-trilly 'R' as well ;___; I loove this video!

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Maru Mar Super! Glad you enjoyed. :)

@mccssecondaccount6901

5 жыл бұрын

Plenty of us can't say R, huh

@unneccry2222

5 жыл бұрын

are you able to pronuonce the wierd B?

This was rad. Are we going to continue working on this language? For example, creating a writing system or words and grammar?

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+SeaBiscuit Yes, I will continue to grow this language through these video and in doing so show people how to conlang.

@mephostopheles3752

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian WOOOOOH! Cool. I'm super pumped.

@chaosPneumatic

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian Just subscribed so I can see where this will go in future updates! I've been trying my hand at making conlangs for a few years now but haven't been able to get beyond the phonology stage (plus a rough outline of grammar without actually "plugging it in" so to speak). Hopefully this channel will help give me some guidance. Funny thing, one of my languages has the same vowel system that your's has right now! I'm always nervous when someone gets the same ideas as me because I don't want to seem like I'm stealing anything lol

YEA! I absolutely love that the ship had the number 1729. It is a personal favorite of mine. I think 420 might be my favorite integer, but not for any if the drug or birthday reasons. 420 is the smallest number divisible by all the natural numbers:. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, & 7. Remove divisibility by 7 and we drop to 60. We got divisibility by 6 for free from 2 and 3. So the next such distinct number down, the smallest natural number divisible by 1, 2, 3, & 4 is 12. I love that easy divisibility is built into our system for denoting time.

This video basically consists of Edgar bossing Xidnaf around and Xidnaf going along with everything. :P

Ah, the uvular trill... I never liked that sound, even though it's featured in my mother tongue. Weird, eh? That was a very useful video; "how to choose sounds for a conlang?" is a question that's always bothered me, and probably other conlanger-wannabes as well.

@Happydancer9

8 жыл бұрын

+Ysgramornorris I have to ask what your mother tongue is?

@ysgramornorris2452

8 жыл бұрын

ArchaïqueDoes Mapping French, parisian dialect.

@Treviisolion

8 жыл бұрын

+Ysgramornorris From what I've seen, generally you don't want to spend too much time on it, the time spent during this video is probably all you want to spend unless you want to create a phonological history.

@ysgramornorris2452

8 жыл бұрын

+Trevyn Case It's not really a matter of time. I often find myself unable to decide what sounds I want, and how I "should" go about choosing sounds. How do you go from "I want my language to sound roughly like this" to "I'll plug this and that phoneme in" is the real problem.

@Mercure250

8 жыл бұрын

+Ysgramornorris Personnellement, je le prononce plus comme une fricative, et non comme une roulée. (Autrement dit, je prononce mes r [ʁ] et non [ʀ])

My two favourite language nerds in one video! Nothing could be better at this point

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Nikolaj Lepka Glad you enjoyed, good sir.

@NikolajLepka

8 жыл бұрын

Artifexian I always do, kind sir

@mohammedjalloh7658

8 жыл бұрын

Like tell me about it

Apparently, affricates are insanely easy for me to pronounce. Maybe it's because I've spent a LONG time practicing the "tl" from Aztec. I also LOVE the "ts" from German, it's one of my favorite sounds! I can't roll my "R's" though, which really annoys me. I can flip them like no other. I LOVE learning how to pronounce other languages. I did it in chior growing up all the time.

@krystofv6917

7 жыл бұрын

Then take a look on some Slavic langauges, [ts] is so important we decided that 'c' will not stand for [k] or [s] but for [ts], but tough luck if you can't roll your r's, there isn't a Slavic langauge that doesn't have rolled r

@callmeswivelhips8229

7 жыл бұрын

I want to learn how to roll my "r's" so badly. Ever since seeing "That 70's Show" episode, I've always wanted to have someone roll their r's in my mouth while kissing my to see if it would help me learn how to do it...

@krystofv6917

7 жыл бұрын

This is the most stupid idea ever yet there's so much thought in it how did you manage to do that 😂😂😂😂

@callmeswivelhips8229

7 жыл бұрын

I'm referring to the "That's 70's Show" episode. That's the recurring joke of the episode, I just forget which one. So it wasn't my idea.

@krystofv6917

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't say it's your idea, what were the people who write that show even thinking

neighbors: sleeping me at 3 am: hmm these sounds are neat let me pronounce them like 50 times

So you're the "zid-naf" kind of guy.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+frickermints Ye, I'm on team "zid-naf"

@carsonscheer3557

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian ksid-naf FTW!

@welp4576

6 жыл бұрын

I’m a ksidnaf person

@joeyuzwa891

5 жыл бұрын

I'm on the "kheed-naf" team

@larho9031

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's /zɜd.naf/.

Huh... makes me want to go back and make a conlang for a story I'm writing, instead of just pointing out "they're using a different language". Might make naming things more consistent.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+109Rage I fully endorse this plan! You don't even need to build a full on language just a naming language.

@109Rage

8 жыл бұрын

Artifexian What would that entail? Deciding on sounds, and I'm guessing words, but not really sure beyond that. I imagine I wouldn't need too much of a grammar or anything.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+109Rage Ye, so a naming language would require a phonology and (some) words but little to no grammar. Basically, you'd develop the language to the point where you can name things on a world map but not beyond that.

@109Rage

8 жыл бұрын

Artifexian Interesting. Guess I'll look at things I've already named in my world, maybe try to build the phonology from that (and/or retcon some of the names) and go from there.

So, I’m an absolute beginner at conlangs (and also very dyslexic). And I now absolutely bugger all about language. I would really like to get into it and develop my own, but while these videos are absolutely excellent, I’m really struggling with keeping up with all of these terms and symbols for sounds and stuff, and i just feel like… everyone already knows what it all means/refers to and I don’t 🙃 I sorta feels like when, you’re trying to teach your grandma how do click on something on a computer, but she doesn’t even know what the mouse is? Only it’s me. I’m grandma. Do you have any videos or recommended resources that go over the absolute basics of wth everything is, like terms etc? 😅

@boredishfish2717

Жыл бұрын

Artifexian has a conlang playlist that goes over all the terminology and stuff before getting to this point. U should check it out :p

@IceFlower22

7 ай бұрын

Same. Ik starting with choosing your language's sounds is the way to go, but the terms are honestly just,, a struggle. (you worded it really well already, so i just copied your phrasing, lol). Tho i'll take a look at the playlist @boredishfish2717 reccomended.

Fun video! When I was a teenager my little sister taught me how to roll my Rs. She had me walk around all day saying "ada" (sounded like "uh-DUH") over and over. Started on a Friday and by Sunday afternoon, the D in the middle there started motorboating into "uh-DRRRRRRAH" and suddenly I was trilling my Rs. I have recommended it to anyone I meet who can't trill their Rs ever since.

Conlanging is such fun! I've been working on my language for in excess of a year now and it's so addictive. (I'm all about the inter-vowel glottal stop, by the way!) I can't stop tweaking the grammar to be more and more systematic. I'm thinking of creating another, more exotic language with clicks and trills being the dominant sounds.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+WanderingRandomer Very cool! I do love those trills :)

@wanderingrandomer

8 жыл бұрын

+Artifexian Yeah, they're pretty sweet! I loved the Alveolar Trill so much that I went to the trouble of teaching myself to do it! Good news: it's not terrible hard to learn. I look me a few days to go from producing gurgling sounds to a proper rolled 'r'.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+WanderingRandomer Ye, see I've tried to teach myself how to pronounce a rolled r. I understand what I need to do to make the sound, but my food hole just won't make it happen for me. And, boy, have I tried! :(

am i the only one that wants to hear their language spoken just to see what they actually did?

I had no idea about anything you said but I still enjoyed it

2019: making4fun 2020:I'm making this world just In case original one heads out

OMG I was just whishing you upload this video. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+Izzo Mapping No probs. Much more to come in the future. Stay tuned.

I'm new to conlanging, but it seems interesting and I want to give it a try! Here's the phonetic inventory I came up with for my unnamed conlang. If someone would review it, that would be amazing! Vowels: /a/, /e/, /i/, /o/, /u/, /y/ Diphthongs: /ai/, /aʊ/, /ia/, /ie/, /io/, /iy/, /oi/ Consonants: Nasals: /m/, /n/ Plosives: /p/, /b/, /t, /d/, /k/, /g/, /ʔ/ Fricatives: /f/, /v/, (I might switch those with /ɸ/ and /β/), /θ/, /s/, /z/, /ʃ/, /ʒ/, /ʁ/, /h/ Approximants: /j/, /w/ Flaps: /ɾ/ (I love this sound) Trills: None, but watching this makes me want to add /B/ and maybe /r/. Thoughts? Laterals: /l/ (Is this too similar to /ɾ/?) Affricates: /tʃ/ Thanks for reading my comment! ^_^

@b.p8947

8 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Late Your conlang idea's phonology seems interesting. May I suggest using a retroflex or alveolar approximant instead over the alveolar flap? It keeps it a bit different from the lateral if you're worried about it sounding too similar. But other than that, everything seems pretty much in order! Good luck with the conlang! :)

@malfruemulo

8 жыл бұрын

+Brett Pittman I like the idea of the approximant, but I just love that flap! If anything I'll probably drop the lateral. Any thoughts on the bilabial fricatives?

@aarpug2080

8 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Late Quite an interesting phonology. If you want to add a trill, may I suggest the bilabial trill or retroflex trill? They give your language a unique sound. Also, would it be okay if you take a look at my constructed language? It is not a solid phonology, and is subject to change. Vowels: /a/, /e/, /ɪ/, /o/, /u/, /a:/, /e:/, /ɪ:/, /o:/, /u:/, /a::/, /e::/, /ɪ::/, /o::/, /u::/ (written as a, e, i, o, u, y, á, é, í, ó, ú, â, ê, î, ô, û (/e:/ is also written as ) Diphthongs: /aɪ̯/, /e͡ɪ/, /u͡ɪ/, /a͡ʊ/, /o͡e/ Consonants: Nasals: /m/, /n̪ˠ/ (hard), /nʲ/ (soft), /n/, /ŋ/ Plosives: /p/, /b/, /t̪ˠ/ (hard), /d̪ˠ/ (hard), /tʲ/ (soft), /dʲ/ (soft), /t/, /d/, /k/ Fricatives: /f/, /v/, /θ/, /ð/, /s/, /ʃ/, /x/, /h/ Taps: /ɾˠ/ (hard), /ɾʲ/ (soft), /ɾ/ Approximants: /l/, /j/, /w/ Notes: and have merged into /ɪ/, where y used to be /y/. is always unmarked. The laterals /l̪ˠ/ and /lʲ/ have been lost (though I am considering bringing them back). If you could review it, that would be great!

@malfruemulo

8 жыл бұрын

+Aar Pug Well, I'm certainly not the best person to ask, because I have absolutely no experience in linguistics, but I'll do my best! What's the difference between /t̪ˠ/, /tʲ/, and /t/? I know that the bracket thing makes it dental, but what do the little /j/ and /ɣ/ do? I'm assuming the colons indicate vowel length. That's a cool idea. It seems strange to me that you have/k/ but not /g/. That said, my conlang has /θ/ and not /ð/, so it'll probably work. I like that flap! Once again, not sure about the diacritics, but any conlang with /ɾ/ is an instawin in my book! Sorry I can't do a better job, but maybe someone with more experience will come along and look at this too. :)

@aarpug2080

8 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Late +Matthew Late +Matthew Late +Matthew Late Thanks for the review! The hard consonants indicate velarization, the soft ones indicate labialization, and the plain ones are standard IPA. Also, there is a /g/, I forgot to write it though :(. Also, a small sample, the numerals from one to twelve: man tûn nîn canar lepan enués otep toloc netev ceic ceicman ceictûn If you want to talk more, tell me :)

That "woohoo" at the end by Xidnaf was super cute.

2:53 the tension to laugh is so real😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😶😑☺😊😀😁😂😄😅😆😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

For the made-up language that I'm trying to design, for a people that managed to "thrive" amidst a war-torn environment where time and clear communication were of the essence, I've set a few goals: - The words would need to be pronounceable with as few syllables as possible, so that sentences could be spoken within as little time as possible. Ideally, most words could be pronounced with but a single syllable. Thus, I'm willing to enlarge the language's alphabet in order to accommodate a wider variety of vowels and consonants, as well as the addition of more exotic things, like trills (lots of them!), glottal stops, vowel tones (like what Mandarin Chinese uses), and even click consonants. - The words would need to be easily audible, even in a noisy environment, and/or among the hard-of-hearing. Thus, there'd be no distinction between voiced and voiceless consonants like "d" and "t", "g" and "k", "ch" and "j", "f" and "v", and "s" and "z" to name a few. There may also be no distinction between nasal sounds like "m" and "n" even! Also, the amount of vowels, consonants, and tones would need to be kept very distinct, so caught-cot dilemmas would need to be avoided. - The spelling of words would need to be strictly accurate in terms of pronunciation, so as to be easy to learn. So, a phonetic writing system could suffice, which could be either an alphabet or an abugida (although given the importance of tone, and how commonly syllables within a word would be structured, I'm leaning more towards an abugida). - An alternate logographic writing system could be developed to provide a common basis of cross-linguistic understanding, even if they have different words for the same thing, such as "trash" and "garbage". (See Blissymbols as an example of this.) Here's what I'd like to use in my own made-up language: - 10 vowels with their own letters, specifically "a" as in "flan", "ah" as in "flat", "au" as in "frond" (try saying it in a deeper French accent to avoid the caught-cot dilemma), "eh" as in "fed", "ee" as in "feet", "ih" as in "fit", "uh" as in "fun", "o" as in "phone", "oo" as in "foot", and "u" as in "flu". - Diphthongs and triphthongs galore! Of course, none of them would be written with their own letters, but would be made from a permutation of the 10 vowels, resulting in such diphthongs as "ae" as in "blade", "eeah" as in "fiat", and "eeau" as in "yaw", as well as such triphthongs as "eeaho" as in "meow", or "oae" as in "sway". - 5 tones for the vowels: a flat tone, a rising tone, a falling tone, a rising then falling tone, and a falling then rising tone. - As for the consonants, as I mentioned before, I'd like for the language to make no distinction between voiced and voiceless consonants, so "p" and "b" would be used interchangeably, and would use the same letter. The same would go with "d" and "t", both versions of "th" (as in "thin" and "this"), "g" and "k", "s" and "z", "sh" and "zh", "ch" and "j", and "f" and "v". There would also be no distinction between "m" and "n", or "q" and "k", and consonants such as "w" as in "won", or "y" as in "yes" can be done away with since they sound so similar to "o" as in "phone", and "ee" as in "feet" respectively. The "l" and "r" sounds would remain unchanged. - With regards to the addition of more exotic consonants, the "kh" sound, as in "loch", is a given, as would be the addition of a plosive glottal to separate vowel sounds, though it could be used interchangeably with a "h" sound. There would also be an alveolar lateral fricative "sth" sound added in, which would sound like a combination of the "sh" and "th" sounds. Perhaps most unusual would be the addition of about 8 non-pulmonic consonants, specifically a kissing sound, a lip-smacking sound (as in expressing an eagerness to eat), a popping sound, a raspberry sound, and 4 different clicking sounds (ranging from the "tsk tsk" sound to the "clop clop" sound). - Trills galore! In addition to the "bb" and "rr" trills, there could be "tt", "thth", "kk", "ss", "shsh", "chch", "ff", "khkh", "sthsth", "hh", and "ll" sounds. Like with the diphthongs and triphthongs, they wouldn't have their own letters, but would instead be expressed in writing by having two of the same untrilled letter together. Sadly, I didn't think that you could possibly trill with nasal stops like "m" or "n", so they were omitted as well. The resulting phonetic alphabet would not be an alphabet at all, but rather, would be an abugida, that would have 10 vowels with 5 tones; 14 pulmonic consonants, each with a trilling variant (except for the "m"/"n" sound); and 8 non-pulmonic consonants, for a total of just 32 letters in the alphabet. However, from those 10 vowels could come up to 90 diphthongs, and up to 810 triphthongs! Multiply all of the monophthongs, diphthongs, and triphthongs by the 5 tones, and you get 4550! In this particular abugida, each syllable would begin with a consonant (either a non-pulmonic consonant, non-trilled pulmonic consonant, or trilled pulmonic consonant), have up to 3 vowels chained after that syllable, and end with another consonant, with a line or wave crossing over the syllable in order to determine that syllable's tone. When combined with any of the 35 possible consonants (the aforementioned 14 pulmonic consonants, 13 of which may or may not be trilled, plus the 8 non-pulmonic consonants) that would appear before and after the vowels, and you could get up to 5,573,750 possible single-syllable words! And I didn't even need to distinguish between voiced and unvoiced consonants! I doubt that any modern-day language would even need that many different words in their vocabulary, but perhaps, like with Spanish, nouns, verbs, adjectives, and adverbs could be altered in some fashion? I might also be able to do away with the tones, to get a language that can be better spoken in whispers, while still possibly having a single-syllable word for just about anything conceivable.

@ineednochannelyoutube5384

4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations. You have just created Hungarian.

@masicbemester

2 жыл бұрын

can you please provide IPA for the sounds?

A conlanging youtube series - I couldn't be more happy

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+antstik99 Super! Be sure to subscribe. I'd love to have you on board the good ship Artifexian.

@antstik99

8 жыл бұрын

I sure did. I'm really curious to see how will this language turn out to sound.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+antstik99 As am I. I've no idea what direction it will go in but, hopefully, it'll be a good one!

I'm goin' thru de playlists an' I coul'n't stop laughin' here. Aye'd love it if yoo two did more collabs tugeva. Heck, dey don' ev'n need t' be on-a serious topic!

CRANKY DOODLE DONKEY AND PINKIE PIE JUMPSCARE? Seriously, this really helped me sort out my vowels. I just wasn't expecting a character from MLP while I'm working on a language inspired by that world lol

P, T, K, are the coolest sounds. UNVOICED PLOSIVES FOR THE WIN

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+CerealKillerOats Seconded!

@creamofthecrop4339

8 жыл бұрын

Artifexian haha hey thanks for replying! I love your videos!

@psvmjohn

5 жыл бұрын

I'm somewhat of a pharngeal plosive guy myself

Sillyto delete the affricate series because /pf/ is so “difficult”, but the argument is particularly ridiculous for /ts/. [ts] is way more common than people consider, just check the frequency in English of the word pizza in food related contexts for people age < 40 or, well, anything in -t in the plural. If anything, only a mild adjustment and practice session would be required to get someone to pronounce it easily in onsets as they're already produced V_#, and V_V.

@ryuko4478

6 жыл бұрын

in the case of V_V they are in different syllables /mit.su.bi.ʃi/

@Afon705

4 жыл бұрын

@3:36 [ˈpi.tsɐ] or [ˈpit.sɐ]

so, I started a conlang and decided to just use 97% of the English Phonetic Alphabet because I thought it would be easier for me. I also didn't know how the IPA worked so that didn't help. And I designed 90% the writing system for it already and I'm thinking I should do a mass rework. I think I'll keep the non-alphabetical symbols like the possessive symbol and the questioning symbol which are both said as actual (monosyllabic) words. I'm glad I found your channel Artifexian.

I'm extremely minimal and just made my language a set of ways you are to arrange words. Now that I think about it it's more of a code

of course it's /tsunami/! how else would you say it?

@LvLupXD

8 жыл бұрын

Sunami

@puolki

8 жыл бұрын

shoe-nami

@ARP2wefightforyou

8 жыл бұрын

LvLupXD Okay. I think that my speaking Hebrew (which has a _ts_ africate, צ,) makes it easier for me to say \ts\.

@msanotorini3278

6 жыл бұрын

Chunami

@sofijeffrey9797

6 жыл бұрын

[t͡su.na.mi] maybe?

KZread: Lets recomended this everywhere

This is such an exciting video for those into languages!!

Im so glad I found this channel

Alveolar approximants are very interesting! Also, is the bilabial trill really that easy? I find that I have to kinda "co-articulate" it with my tongue between my teeth, which I don't think is correct.

@Artifexian

8 жыл бұрын

+rzeka I think so. It's that brrrr sound babies make when they flap their lips together. Or the sound we make to imitate tractor engines. Or (kinda) the way we flap our lips together when we are exhausted - you know for you deeply inhaled. When producing the bilabial trill the tongue should not be in between the teeth. It should be lying in a relaxed neutral position in the mouth.

@rzeka

8 жыл бұрын

Artifexian I thought so. I can make the sound in isolation, but in the middle of a word it just comes out as a bilabial fricative, unless I stick my tongue between my teeth. I guess I'll just practice more.

First of all, I'm glad /χɪd.nɐv/ led me to this channel! Worldbuilding is kinda my thing. Second, this video just makes me want to make educational-style videos about my own conlangs.

@parthiancapitalist2733

5 жыл бұрын

Wayland The Bat what's your native language?

@larho9031

5 жыл бұрын

Is it /zɜd.naf/?

@Afon705

4 жыл бұрын

@@larho9031 No, it's [ˈʃid̪.nɐf]

Before I even knew what the /pf/ sound was, I had it in this Pleboynian-Kidonian (my conlang) word, "Aphfir". Ironically, it's in one of the less German sounding phrases.

Love that Xidnaf appearance