you can also consider going to a 3D program that's not like pulling a bowling ball through your ears. A real 3D app like C4D, or maya. Like they don't slow to piss and back. Sorry but blender is only for people that like mediocrity.

@ravindrahere501

Жыл бұрын

Just one question, can we all have a look at your work?? I sincerely hope that its not mediocre. Artstation link will work for us.

@Psihosenser

Жыл бұрын

Don't know about maya, but c4d still crawls my nightmares with its way of handeling foliage. You also have to use proxies there, the same way you have to do here, or else everything is even more sluggish than here

@TheDragonfang134

Жыл бұрын

Or people like me who can't afford a pricey ass subscription fee'd program that would cost you an arm and a leg JUST to use it. Blender might not be the best program compared to what you brought up, but at least it's free!

@polynormal4038

Жыл бұрын

It really depends on what you want to do, some people have several programs, they might use c4d for scene arrangement and another program for modeling. But really I don't care what you think since you're ignoring an amazing open source free program that is better at some things then many commercial apps. Can any program be the best at everything?

@Intercepto

Жыл бұрын

All 3D software behave the same with this amount of polys in the viewport, even if instanced.

3 minutes in and this got to be the best video in blender I've seen this year.

Great stuff! If Convex Hull still produces too much geometry one can always choose for Bounding Box instead of CH.

@nickstuff2957

Жыл бұрын

thanks

@polynormal4038

Жыл бұрын

I ended up using bounding box because I hadn't thought of convex hull. Always something to learn with blender3d

@lucian6172

Жыл бұрын

You can use a triangle instead of a bounding box. See which one is faster.

@afjer

10 ай бұрын

Or a billboard of the tree.

Thank you so much. I saw this video a while ago when it premiered and right now I'm working on a project that was giving me hell because of the polycount. This technique came to the rescue.

By far the best tutorial that I have seen in a long time. Very easy to follow. Thnk you for this!

This is such an INSANE workflow, thanks!!

Probably the best video with Geo nodes i ever seen, thx alot!

Amazing tutorial, quick explanation, this was one of the best tutorials i have ever watched!

Im really putting my focus to creating 3D scenes and 2D renders and this is such a gem for simple tips I need to look out for!! You covered so much all the way around in such a simple and complete task you set out to make!!

I really like this approach more than the outlines of collection instances since this shows the geometry. Thank you very much for sharing!

Nicely done and very useful. Thank you.

Wonderful tutorial, very well explained!

Great tutorial, very clear, nicely paced and to the point.

That is acctually really useful. I never thought of using gemetry nodes for that

Awesome tutorial, ill definitely be using this on my next project

Fantastic technique! Thank you for the tutorial! 🧠💥

Okay this was something that I needed, thank-you so much for this tutorial ❤ you earned a sub!

This is the best free software Ive seen. Respect.

great explained, I appreciate your patience in explaining step by step, especially on geometry node ... nice ...

Thank you for the trees very much appreciate you putting a download link.

Great resource! Thanks for sharing.

Nice workflow, thank you. A small suggestion: i'd love for tutorials on geometry nodes to have a fullscreen pic of the node setup linked in the description or added and timestamped in the video.

OMG! This is soooo helpful! Thanks a lot for this amazing tutorial

Helps a lot to understand geometry nodes

Awesome! I really enjoyed your vid thanks for sharing.

good channel with amazing stuff, I'm with you now 😀

Great work. I will try this out

That's pretty darn smart! Thanx 4 sharing! :)

Great explanation!

very very good! i really enjoyed and wowd at the same time because i am used to work with proxies from 3ds max but now i have a better solution for that in blender!

Best workflow ever, I use the same for many projects 💡🧠🤟🤟😉

You saved stress to people, thank you!

Great tutorial!

Great information, thank you!

This is awesome. Thank you.

Extremely helpful, thank you

Man this is quality video!

Super helpful, thank you!

Thank you. Great explanation.

bro thank u very much i can not explain how happy i am thank you

That is so simple, yet so smart, I'm ashamed I haven't thought of this 😅

Great video, keep it up

Thanks from heart.really helpful

Thanks, learned a lot from this

For organizational purposes, the top of my outliner has an IMPORTS collection, which consists of collections of imported curves (say, different floors and ceilings), helper geometry, and a __DUMMY VERT which is just a single vert I can use to store materials for easy access, or geometry node groups. Followed by collections for SOURCES (used for instances) and CAMERAS and so on. In this case where I'd want to re-use the same setup, I'd put the convex hull and switch stuff into a node group I then make accessible in the __DUMMY VERT object. Maybe I want to examine how things look in the viewport, I just select this object and enter its node group and toggle the switch from inside. Maybe you set the trees to non selectable, now you still have access to this control without any additional hazzle. I do the same thing for material nodes, where I put adjustable global controls in the world shader for easy access. The variables you want global control over, say the switch in this case, you don't want to expose/promote.

@funw3d538

Жыл бұрын

@gottagowork Please create a short video showing all this in action. I get it, but better to SEE.

@gottagowork

Жыл бұрын

@@funw3d538 It's not so much to see or create a video about. I'm not a video/tutorial creator, and that approach says "...this is how you..." too much. The takeaway is trying to stay organized in a way that makes sense for what you do. It will pay off when projects grow in complexity. How I organize my outliner may not even be relevant to anybody else's line of work, or others use it even smarter than myself. A studio might even have guidelines on this.

Literally Thank you so much

Thank you! So helpfull 💚💚💚

Awesome, thank you for teaching! Guess I'm gonna have to test it out for myself, but I'm curious what the render time on an image like that is. With optimized settings, is it comparable to a detailed portrait render or whole other level (with all those little tree details)?

Gained a subscriber. Excellend tutorial Hayden.

Thank you it works with me

ITS REALLY WORKED LOL THANK YOU DUDE

omg dude i love this, big thanks and kiss

Beautiful! Just wondering how you did the underwater for the final render? I followed the water tutorial but it doesn't look good without a sea floor/bottom.

very nice

I wonder if there is a way to tell if the renderer is Cycles or not, so that the wireframe, solid, and preview viewport types and viewport overlay use the convex hull, while the actual ray tracer uses instanced geometry, which is much faster to render in ray traced render engines with a BVH like Cycles than it is to do in raster engines. This would allow basically emulating that trick where one shows all the particles but disables the viewport overlay to get good performance while seeing the whole scene, while not requiring that the viewport overlay is disabled entirely.

thanks!

well it is ok to make this in instance collection?

Love this tutorial! This method is brilliant and I am looking forward to trying it soon. I had a question on the particle placement. You ran a node to make it split by height, which makes complete sense for the scene, is it possible instead to use a map, like a black and white map of some sort, to tell it where to and not to place the new trees? I know I could probably do it with weights, but I am going to use this on an architectural render, and want to use a processed aerial image to tell blender to put trees where there are actually trees.

@HaydenGray

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That should work using the image texture node luminance to drive the density of the distribute points on faces node.

@BrianOlsonPhotogent

Жыл бұрын

@@HaydenGray I solved my issue! In case anyone wants to know how to do this without driving the actual density, this page shows you how to do it: blender.stackexchange.com/questions/247312/using-an-image-node-as-point-distribute-density-in-geometry-nodes Essentially, you delete points after generation and before instancing, using your created image to drive the deletion. Be sure to set your uv map on your image node. To learn how to do that, this video: blender.stackexchange.com/questions/247312/using-an-image-node-as-point-distribute-density-in-geometry-nodes between 0:46 and 1:10 will explain how that works right now. Original Rep[ly: Thanks for the suggestion, I have spent the day working on this, and have run into two issues. First, I can't find any node that will let me use Luminance. So I am unsure how to implement that. The second issue is that using a texture to drive density (instead of selection on the Instance node) cranks the density of the trees up so high that blender crashes. I've tried tweaking the image, but noting seems to get the density down to an acceptable level. For the geometry I am using, I have added a multiplier to the density, making it 1*.0001, just to get the density down to a level that does not kill blender all on its own.

Hi, this is a great tutorial. For some reason in Blender 4.0.2 when I add the boolean (aka: "Set Proxy") to the group input it's using a checkbox to turn on/off rather than having the ability to increase/decrease using the arrows in your example. Is there a way for me to use the increase/decrease using the arrows like yours? Thanks for your time.

Wow,, thanks

Note: You need to enable the *Copy Attributes* add-in to copy the Geometry Nodes.

How do you make your water go from greenish to blue? followed your other tutorial and end up with a almost all dark blue water

hey i want to ask, i use bagapie for this method, although the viewport is fast but the play in time line is still slow.

does this also work with procedual trees that is made by nodes? i cant seem to make it work

How you scattered the rock in edge of the surface i try to do that but i can't 😢 did you do video that

Extraordinario

couldn't you just create instances instead and put all trees in a collection so you can click one button to hide them and work on your scene in render mode if you must until you want to see them all rendered? Even then they are all just data copies and not separate objects so maybe that could speed up the viewport. ? I don't know. Basically you are just turning the trees off, essentially to a blob so why not just hide them all? anyway, don't pay me any attention. I only started trying to learn 2 weeks back. thanks for the example of how to populate trees and still see where they are w/o killing your viewport.

@xainulabideen1169

8 ай бұрын

I thought it was something gonna be like low polly from the far view and switched to detailed when camera gets closer, just like it happens in games for the optimization..

@user-ug6hh4qg3n

3 ай бұрын

additionaly, adding a camera culling system to the tree geonodes would help performance as trees outside of the camera view are removed/ prevented from instancing

Is Viewport not working when I go to rendered mode, still shows the convex hull.

So what resources do you use to create the trees themselves?

can you use this in Evee too ? I havn't really used geometry nodes that much

thanks

but how to show full original mesh in cycles interactive...that is big question

What are your computer specifications...pc mac or lappy

I was thinking this would be about how to render those huge environments so it doesn't take you weeks for a single frame ;-)

Object just disappears when I switch node to Convex hull. Why is this happening?

Does this directly mean the tree model loads once, but then translated hundreds of times via random positions? So useful method.

why cant they just make a "tick box" for the switch node group input? So it's not 0/1? Its already built in in the node...

And here's my next question. How to make it faster render performance in "final render", not just in the viewport?

Ok... And how to override the method vertex paint?

Are you using a Mac? What kind, your performance is good.

Where is the first scene from?

Technically these are not actual proxies: the original geometry is always loaded into memory with these method. Blender has not an actual proxy system unfortunately. Anyway this is the way to handle these scenes.

@HaydenGray

Жыл бұрын

You’re correct, technically this is an LOD system that changes LOD at render time but in this case, it works very similarly.

Is it works like Gscatter ?

How can I get that HDRI you have? its really smooth and looks cool

@mbk5043

Жыл бұрын

It's the Nishita Sky Texture, you can have it inside blender in the world properties

how did you make it lighter colour around the edges/shoreline and show depth in the water? at 10:23

@HaydenGray

Жыл бұрын

That’s a volumetric effect. Since the water is not just a plane and instead is a solid, it allows the light to scatter and have the appearance of depth

This is an awesome technique but i wanna ask you one question "will this technique decrease my render time?"

@HaydenGray

Жыл бұрын

It won’t decrease your render times but it will help you add complex geometry while keeping Blender running well.

just choose bounds from properties,maybe assign a short cut so u can change to the original on the go

im no blender wizard but instead of a convex hull you could probably swap it out with a billboard in the viewport

bro. i need to know how to implement this with SCATTER 5!!!

Did you just turn Blender into Clarisse?

I laughed to hard as I share your pain with foliage :)

"You have a huge scene, it's all wonderul and then you add the foliage..." At that point I knew I was at the right place.

Hi. I made a huge scene and the render alaways crash. If I use this method, it will render? Thankyou.

@Newemka

Жыл бұрын

This technic is only to keep the viewport performances high, you may want to try frustum culling (kzread.info/dash/bejne/faOAqJtygKmydrA.html) and level of detail (aka LOD) technics

@dariuscatinas31

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Is actually what I need. I never heard about LOD!

@dariuscatinas31

Жыл бұрын

LOD

its a pain to select each tree one by one and clicking enable. Real scenes have more than 3 trees. I'd leave that boolean value inside GN, without declaring it as GN input value, so i can convert all the Tress to proxies in GN itself by a single click on boolean node.

when doing the first part and pressing the switch my tree disappears and is not seen in the rendering edit: fixed it already, great video, thanks

finally found

Wow

That thing is called viewport proxy, not render proxy. Render proxy only loads in the render engine of a raytracer, they are already prepared for that an load fast. The are not part of the scene, except a place holder. Not exist currently in Blender.

I dont have Greater Than node ?

@HaydenGray

Жыл бұрын

The actual node is the “Compare Node” with the “Greater Than” option selected.

@avatr7109

Жыл бұрын

@@HaydenGray Holy shiet, Yes! Thank you, now my potato PC can handle large environments _But what PC would you reccomend?_

@canyongoat2096

Жыл бұрын

@@avatr7109 For Blender it's enough to have Ryzen Threadripper with Nvidia Rtx 3090 ti

@enigmawstudios4130

Жыл бұрын

@@canyongoat2096 you don't need a 3090 ti lol. I ran Blender with a 1080 back in the day. You're limited in terms of extreme complexities but if you're starting off a 3060 will do you just fine. If you're thinking about getting into more serious creations you will want to max out power and capabilities where you wallet can handle it.

It works well, but here it’s where blender shows its limits.