SUBSCRIBE if you wanna fling that Vortex Grenade, NERD!!!

@mileshawkins3856

6 ай бұрын

I just discovered this channel. tbh i was getting bored with loretube. Your horrible eastern euro accent perked my ears up. you know your shit. so many loretubers are fucking posers. good to see this. thank you.

@Izaak.

6 ай бұрын

NERD!!

@alexanderwhite298

5 ай бұрын

I believe it's the men of stone first then the men of gold.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

@@alexanderwhite298 well we need more lore to know for sure

Crazy thing to consider is that humanity fought and won aginst the men of iron. Gravity based weapons were the norm and STC fabricators were something you sent out with colonists to make their lives easier. Humanity also understood genecraft to a level that makes the custodes look inferior.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

I am not sure if they were more advanced in gene crafting than emperor or maybe emperor built on their knowledge, because custodes are truly advanced

@thechadcruzaider7864

6 ай бұрын

Can you explain what they understood about genecrafting though

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

@@thechadcruzaider7864 from what we can gather they were able to adjust certain genetic traits like height and bone density, also muscle growth. Leagues of Votann and Astartes are great example, except Astartes are created without fundamentally changing the general species. Custodes are leagues above any of that. Their genetic makeup is so advanced that a custodes can proceed fighting with parts of its brains blown. If you look at pocket empires like Interex then you can notice that humanity from TGOT didn't care about physical appearance and were on a way of self evolution because their warriors were built, if i remember correctly, like some armored centaurs or something

@borischoteau4808

6 ай бұрын

Xenos were involved into the fight against Men of Iron. Alone, Mankind was probably doomed against them.

@pinecone9676

6 ай бұрын

​@@TheLostPrimarchI'd argue that custodes could be topped by dark age era gene craft, the question is why should they brother considering the cost? The existence of the primarchs are already a point against the custodians position on the top of the totem pole. That's before considering the possibility that the emperor might be a dark age creation, though hardly a point to stand on. Then there's the consideration of purpose. Custodians are symbols on as well as companions for an even more superior being, and we know they're crazy expensive and time consuming to make. I doubt that despite all the glory of dark age tech humanity could or would raise the standard that high for their general population, though I'm sure given a reason they could replicate or enhance a custodian. Like you said, they opted to make AI the solution to many problems, which is very likely the better choice under ideal circumstances. After all, custodians act so robotic and inhuman that they may as well be AI, only reason they're not is because Emperor probably got scared shitless by AI being dominant.

YES! A lost solar system that has lived in peace for 15,000 years.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Probably gonna do video about Vulkan and then about human pocket empires after Age of Strife

“Collapsed on itself like a fat guy’s digestive system”. Was a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one. Had me balling.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Sometimes you need that extra description to get a point across :D

Frankly, I like to think that DAOT's Human Federation was so absurdly advanced, all of Humanity after the Age of Struggle would look like techno-barbarians straight out of Mad Max by comparison. -Their void ships had gravitational weaponry so powerful that even the Eldar ships had no way of escaping. -Men of Iron, like the Excindio Battle Automata, were surely just mass-produced basic infantry, but by Imperium standards they were one-man armies that could take on entire armies of Daemons and Mechanicum and win. -Terminator armor, which is considered the best armor in the Imperium, was just civilian suits used for asteroid mining. -Astartes, and even Custodes would seem like school models compared to the genetic masterpieces of DAOT. The existence of "Gene-Tyrants" who ruled entire kingdoms is mentioned multiple times. -We understood our genome so well that we could surely create new Abhuman species at will and without any other objective beyond what we did because we wanted to and could.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Good comment

@nobodyspecial2053

6 ай бұрын

From what I understand, the products of the emperor work differently than dark age tech. As in while dark age tech can basically turn someone into a different species, the Emperor and his gene editing modifies the soul on a semi consistent level, that the dark agers seemed to have trouble with.

@borischoteau4808

6 ай бұрын

DAoT voidships are only problem against post-Fall eldar ships. Empire Eldar doesn't give a shit about Mankind.

@pyerack

6 ай бұрын

DAOT humanity's mastery of genetics is why I prefer the idea that the Emperor was just the standard "Men of Gold" from that era that survived the fall, which would explain why he didn't want to be seen as a god. In the era he was born, humans like him were merely the norm.

@starburst98

6 ай бұрын

Felinids

During the Golden Age, science was mostly focused on the material side, including AI, energy and genetic sciences, but less interested in the Warp and the dangers of it. This was partly because the Warp was far calmer and the very few psykers able to access it, plus the Emperor's shadowy influence that regularly erased all knowledge of psychic powers. As things came to an end around 25000 AD, (with the mass suicide of the Eldar) the Federation had a few breakthroughs into Warp tech, including Void shields, Navigator Genes and Warp engines, which were later used by humanity to travel the galaxy. It was too late for the Federation, and only a few techs survived from the Golden Age via STCs and the occasional Perpetual. It is a bit funny that the Corporate Mining AIs (now called Votanns) deployed to the Galactic Core by their (greedy) shareholders survived and even thrived from the lack of oversight and taxes, even creating their own labour caste (the squats) to slave and mine more minerals for them. It is less funny for the populated worlds or ships dismantled by the Votannic stelar mining engines (with the natives still on them). I mean profit at any cost is a dangerous directive to assign to an AI...right? On the other hand, the occasional Tyranid Hive Fleet sometimes gets caught and dismantled for biomass as well. The Votann AIs will not throw away such a nice free resource bonus.

I think Dark Angels being entrusted with a lot of dark age Tech is really smart. You use Lemon wolf boy as your brute force astartes killer/executioner. Dark angels are for when shits even worse then that. Keeping your best/most efficient legion in reserve is 4d chess

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. They have always dealt with everything that was out of control and came out on top.

@DHBucsFan

6 ай бұрын

Then in 40K you have the Minitours SM Chapter who seem to have some pretty insane and non-standard issue war gear and weapons as well, and not just gear they have taken from other Astartes they have just clapped either. They have friends in high places though I believe..

@NineSeptims

4 ай бұрын

Minos were a chapter directly working for the high lords@@DHBucsFan

I like the story of a ship being good friend with its captain and hating everyone who spit on his ideals. Like a loyal dog - from the far future.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

A futuristic companionship

Nano swarms vs tyranids would be supremely interesting

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

I think it would just erase nids :D

@ChillAssTurtle

6 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch maybe they can rediscover it somewhere in a clutch ass battle, wipe out 1 tendril then the survivors all get coom blasted by necrons and its lost again so they cant just win the universe XD wishful thinking that boners could 1 shot hack them or some bs like that i dont even know

@ChillAssTurtle

6 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch they would but i still wanna read a bit about how comically brutal the mass murder of several trillion nids getting melted alive ;o

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

@@ChillAssTurtle Yea it wound be kinda funny

@roberttilford7991

6 ай бұрын

Probably only way to win, but could also give it's 40k end up devoring the whole galaxy lol

the fact that there is a random self conscious time traveling ai space ship from the dark times is so random but fits so perfectly into warhammer again amazing video brother really glad u bring the light into these dark times

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, I will make more videos about stuff like this, it is quite a bit of fun

@ArnoldJudasRimmer..

6 ай бұрын

Shooting singularities as warheads like its absolutely no biggie...🤷

@germanstoner704

6 ай бұрын

@@ArnoldJudasRimmer.. i litteraly forgot about that part that makes it 01927272 times worse hahaha

@ArnoldJudasRimmer..

6 ай бұрын

@@germanstoner704 ikr hahaha....that was a simple research vessel also it is heavily implied.

My annoying alcoholic neighbour upgraded his stereo to even more ridiculous levels over Christmas, so Ill take one macro-hammer please >.>

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

The true Warhammer

@Secean

6 ай бұрын

If anyone asks, Ill tell them its is the Warhammer 40k@@TheLostPrimarch

If you look at the technological capabilities of the Great Crusade Imperium and notice that it defeated Dark Age level civilizations without actually needing overwhelming numbers, we come to an interesting conundrum. You see, the thing is that the Men of Iron and the few examples of Dark Age ships appearing in a few stories are all drastically more advanced and powerful than anything those civilizations had. Canonically, time itself was broken and turned into "layers" of reality by the opening of the Eye of Terror. This is the reason given by Games Workshop to explain its statement that everything is canon, even when contradictory. This brings us to a very unsettling possibility. The possibility that the Dark Age of Technology wasn't more advanced than the Imperium to a point that actually matters. And from there, that those ships that have appeared (Slaughtersong as well as that one who was boarded by Marines and even the Arks Mechanicus) as well as the Men of Iron might not be from the Dark Age. They might be from the _future._ In which case, the Iron War might not have happened yet and the Imperium's treatment of the Machine Spirits of AI, robots, Knights, Titans, etc. might be the true cause of the war in the future and that since time was broken, humanity has memories and records of events that haven't happened. Becoming self-fulfilling. And doesn't that sound like the most 40K thing ever?

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Well at this point everything goes, so yes, why not. An interesting theory for sure!

I love the theory that The Emperor is just a product of the DAoT that got out of control. I don't really believe it, but it could actually make sense from a certain perspective. There is actually a basis for it in one of the books but I can't remember which one it is off the top of my head.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

I have heard about that theory and its interesting but it kinda nullifies all his pre-golden age lore, still, a fun idea

@staven512

6 ай бұрын

What if what we know of his background from Master of Mankind is correct, but during the DAoT his status as a powerful perpetual psyker was found out - and they weaponized him? It could go on to explain why he didn't travel to the warp gate and juice up on stolen god powers sooner, allows for the c'tan shard on Mars, etc.

@user-ud8ux9cr8m

6 ай бұрын

It's actually have been said in a novel "Master of Mankind" when Valdor confronted mother of the future Custodian Ra Endimion.

@iWubBass

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ud8ux9cr8m Yes! Thank you!

@quack9355

6 ай бұрын

So... Who put the dragon in mars then?

The non-balance breaking gun that accepts any metal as ammunition sounds fun.

I assume the Jacuzzi on top of the ship around 1:44 also had some physics shattering qualities.

@stayfrosty1012

6 ай бұрын

Lmao

@johndb1860

6 ай бұрын

😂 and considering how big 40k ships are that Jacuzzi is probably closer to the size of an Olympic pool. And my rogue trader wants one!

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

True :D

Humanity legit made the Hollow Purple machine gun.

I love the creativity some of the black library authors have used to come up with these insane weapons used during the daot...

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Same, I just wish there would be more

I’ve always thought the men of gold were powerful pyskers like the emperor that helped guide humanity before they went to colonise the stars. And the that the men of stone were the scientists, engineers, and architects of the then federation.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

What about the idea that they were perpetuals?

@ingold1470

6 ай бұрын

Was this a Warhammer adaptation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream from the Bible?

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

actually could be@@ingold1470

@dewlittle1211

5 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch Not so sure, reading the info on the men of gold, it implied that there powerful and wise people that guided humanity before their influence was lost as humanity spread amongst the stars.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

@@dewlittle1211 sounds like perpetuals to me, most perpetuals in a sense are powerful and due to the old age they are wise, also they were little in numbers, and many perpetuals were potent psykers

A bit of lore and history from an actual wampyr. What a time to be alive

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

My etnerlan search for knowledge continues

I like to think that there was jo "fall" humanity basically is running a what if simulation that is the local galactic cluster.

@TheLostPrimarch

4 ай бұрын

maybe, who knows ;D

Makes you wonder what technology exists that we don’t know about IRL

@molybdaen11

5 ай бұрын

Several ways to work with fire and stone. Many different plant receipts which dies out, several mathematics and physics (which probably had been rediscovered) and there was the mention of a chemical able to artificially turn flesh into perfect stone.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Good comment

@natanaelsantos3924

2 ай бұрын

@@molybdaen11 Perfect stone? Like, not a stone-like substance, but just straight up stone?

A lot of wh40k nerds are REALLY bad about believing the propaganda of the lore. The Dark Age of Technology was a golden age in humanities history, only destroyed by literal group hysteria.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

True

Always good to see the Leagues mentioned! I am of the belief that they are the Men of Stone. (FOR ROCK AND STONE)

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

I agree. It would make sense with the dwarf vibes, also the fact that in many mythologies dwarfs were created from stone

That's what humanity should be. Weapons that can erase our enemies completely and paradise worlds for those who are worthy. The way I see humanity- humans should not have to fight but instead judge our enemies then condemn them to damnation or grant them the mercy to survive and improve. I hate people who think the human suffeirng and war of 41k is cool. 41k is supposed to be a dark parody of a human future. The spirit of eternity was right.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

I think it is a form of warning dressed as fiction

You forgot one thing. In Speranze, it was clearly shown that the ship recorded much of DAoT tech, one of which is a horizon machine that capable manipulating and erasing space-time on solar system scale.

Enjoying Children of the Omnissiah playing in the background ❤❤❤

happy i found your gem of a channel bud love the humour and the juicy lore.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Im glad you enjoy!

I don't understand how there isn't a pocket of DAOT tech humanity still out there. Even with the war against the machines, not all advanced AI would have rebelled, that would make it less than advanced AI.

@TheLostPrimarch

2 ай бұрын

There used to be... they all are dead now :(

That drawing of Targutai Yesugei get being consumed by the dark glass throne hits me in the feels. That was hard death to take

ok im subbed. It would be cool the Custodian and the guys from Mars who are looking for a way tobbring emporer back also finds the lost Primarch or the Lost Primarch is a copy of the Emporer hidden away awaiting for the time he was called upon. The Emporer planned out all these events but never imployed a back up plan if something like the horus heracy happened. I get him being so into himself that he didnt think he needed or wanted another him running around but a blank copy for a hard reboot seems like an easy fix

Man, I really miss vortex grenades.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Killing as many enemies as your own soldiers. Best fun wildcard.

The thing with the voting and the galaxy being heavy in gravity closer to the core is completely wrong but I think that was writing a good 20+ years ago when we didn't know that

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

In the middle of the galaxy there is a supermassive black hole. If you get closer to this hole the gravity is higher, that is why galaxy core is ridden by dead and crushed planets. You can't just say things and expect people to assume its truth without explaining. Newtons gravitational law F=Gm1,m2/r2 Essentially, the gravity between two object is decided by one factor, the distance. So if you mean the supermassive black hole as the core of the galaxy, than the further away you get from that, the weaker the gravitational attraction will be. There is the overall gravitational force, and then there is planets gravitational force. Since larger force is exerted on planets within the core, thus it converts to being that inhabits these planets. I found literal thesis by doing one google search that disproves your line of thinking. The changes aren't massive, but they are still there and prolonged exposure can cause health problems. In short too much gravity is bad for a long time, so they had to adapt their bodies.

@epicreasav8933

6 ай бұрын

gravty doesnt work lke that, the mddle of the galaxy s denser beacuse, 1. thats where ths galaxy started and is contnusasly expanding outwards, 2 the supermasve black hole has a orbit n whch ts slowlyy ulling in near by objects, t does not magcly make all planets hhave higher gravity@@TheLostPrimarch

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

@@epicreasav8933 Galaxy expands because its captures dust and gasses from the space attracted by gravitational force, it doesn't just grow outwards, its more like a snowball rolling down the hill. Look I think this is ridiculous, your only sources of information are "trust me bro", so I don't think this conversation will be fruitful. And when talking about expanding it feels like you are mixing galaxy with universe.

@epicreasav8933

6 ай бұрын

Dude, your name is literally 'thelostprimarch'. Not that deep

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

@@epicreasav8933 As expected

I've been here since you had less than 2k subs. Gonna be here when you push 40k.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

I appreciate that

Come to think.of leagues of votan fits the description of men of stone really well🤔

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Yes indeed

@DailyMasalaDi

6 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch you think they were the same?

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

@@DailyMasalaDi it would make sense, or at least for them to be in part men of stone, since they are space dwarves

That intro music is so chill good lord

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

I fell in love with it long time ago, and i'm not letting go :D

Took me 3 attempts to get past the minute mark! That background music in the intro slaps!😂

My favorite Dark Age tech has to be the Bolos. FOR THE HONOR OF THE REGIMENT!

0:20 في الوقع نحن لا نحرف الارض كي نجد النفط بل نجده على السطح

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Golden comment

@MacroLore

6 ай бұрын

Yes

y'all know what's up asking for the spiciest tech, that's my Boyz

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

It was either this or Rangdan

This channel is underrated

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, hopefuly soon it won't be

Please do a video on cool and powerful Necron tech.

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Eventually

@eiric6958

6 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch Thx

Oil in WH40k is called (unrefined) promethium.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Lubricatimus

@daviddestin1990

5 ай бұрын

No, for real. Promethium. I have studied the Warhammer lore since 1989, not making it up. Someone else did, someone British, a long time ago. You ought to check out some of the original White Dwarfs- they are great!@@TheLostPrimarch

Nice vid, leaving a comment to help you with the algorithm

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for that!

2:15 The time cop paradox

Yall think its possible that the Emperor turned A.I against humanity I mean it was never said what happen.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

Well... its heresy! But could be true.

Most WH40K channels just read off of wiki word for word

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

OneMindSyndicate :D

Is there anything to say the Echoing Vault was from the DAoT?

Good sh!t

The lost primarch is now a guardsman 😕

@TheLostPrimarch

2 ай бұрын

Hidden in plain sight bro

Humanity was so Dominat for around 5000 Years that they essentially FORCED the Eldar and Orks (who were more advanced at the time) into peace pacts. The Orks, who exist to fight and enjoy war, the harder the better, were so done losing to Humanity, they purpose made Ork Ambassadors just to go and meet with Humanity and accept the Peace Agreement. Insane. The Primarchs did not exist at this time, thus it IS Malacador's Phychic Blocks that prevent any of them remembering him. Horus seemed to remember his name, but Malcador threatened to kill him if he so much as uttered it. Rogal Dorn demanded Malcador remove the Block, claiming he never would have allowed it in the first place. He began crying and then made Malcador reinstate the mental Block. This happened in the roughly 300 year period of the Great Crusade, thousands of years after they had guns that erades your existence.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

It could be fate of one of the Primarchs but not both.

@Omni-Man

5 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch It can't be because they didn't exist at the same time. The weapons existed and were used thousands of years before they were made.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

@@Omni-Man Dark Angels had those weapons too

@Omni-Man

5 ай бұрын

@@TheLostPrimarch The Mechanicus just gave Dark Angels weapons that can erase people? Or the DA found them and were allowed to keep them? I'd like you to source that please.

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

​@@Omni-ManEmperor gave these weapons to DA, same as he gave them enslaved men of iron, it was one of the anthology books if I recall properly.

Wat is mehanicus bo?!

@TheLostPrimarch

6 ай бұрын

Very talkactive radioactive heaters

Every faction in Xelee Sequence : Cute

@voomvoom4522

6 ай бұрын

Impressive. Very nice. Now name a character in the Xeelee Sequence.

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What do you mean the Speranza operates on D4C principles?!

@TheLostPrimarch

5 ай бұрын

It is what it is