I always think I should add a BL touch of some sort on my machines, but then I remember I manually bed level the machines like once every 6 months, if that. I think the glass bed helps.

@Nerlin

3 жыл бұрын

In a way they are over rated. If you do a good manual level, I think the only advantage of Auto Bed Leveling is it usually probes more points and compensates, but only on the 1st layer. I used to auto level before every print, but that is slow and really no need so I stopped doing that.

@timothymusson5040

2 жыл бұрын

They help if your bed is warped. Which glass should not be…

@dbackscott

2 жыл бұрын

@@timothymusson5040 ideally glass doesn’t warp. In practice it does, though. I had a glass bed that started out flat, but took on a slight “taco” warp within a few months. Addition of the BL Touch helped deal with that. I now mostly print to a steel plate with a smooth PEI sheet, and that’s working for me right now. I run the bed probing maybe every ten prints or so.

@Iisakkiik

2 жыл бұрын

@@timothymusson5040 My bed is so warped that even glass doesn't fix it.

@mattportnoyTLV

2 жыл бұрын

Except when it breaks. Which mine did after 2 weeks.

Niiice, you showed the insides and it's just how I understood it from their page: it's got an optical sensor on it, instead of the magnetic one. Love seeing the insides of stuff. Also the M48 was exactly what I was looking for. That's far more accurate than I was expecting (frankly the BL Touch also did surprise me, I thought it wasn't gonna be as high either).

Yes! Finally someone with pictures of the inside and it reveals ... an optical sensor! That alone makes this thing so much better than a BLtouch. No more interference from nearby magnetic items or electromagnetic fields. A lot less tuning required to get it to trigger consistently (because of the Hall sensor in a BL-touch). And the mechanism to deploy the pin seems much more robust - from the movies I saw I guess it needs to be actively deployed, so no more risk of the pin dropping by heavy shaking of the gantry. This looks like a winner to me ... except for the price maybe, but I guess it won't take long for cheap clones to appear and because of the less tricky technology in here, I think those clones will be way better than even an original BL-touch. This might get me away from building my own (servo + opto-sensor) probes ...

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

Everything you said seems pretty accurate to me. The probe does need to be energized to extend so it fails safe (barring mechanical binding of course). As for testing while power cycling, if / when I get wiring to testing on other machines I’ll see about doing that. The price is a fair but more than a standalone BL touch but I’m already seeing these kits for the CR Touch with like $5-6 off coupon codes on Amazon. So seeing them around $40 isn’t far off I’d bet.

@kenopyowo

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally So in your opinion should I get the BL touch or CR touch for my Ender 3 Pro?

@jimsinnovations2737

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenopyowo cr, I just went threw all this lol

@kenopyowo

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsinnovations2737 ah shit i just recently got a bl touch. lets see how this goes. I haven't installed it yet, im printing the hero me gen5 first

@jimsinnovations2737

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenopyowo it's awesome make sure take Off that one z step on bottom

Sir! Very well done! Oh my goodness. No kidding my son and I are 3 weeks deep into our new 3D printing hobby. We have an Ender 3. I Ordered the CR touch and tried to install it yesterday. First step was to watch the two minute Creality install video. LMAO Sir I said to my son “it looks too easy to be true”. First hurdle was an absolute struggle to figure out which dad gum frimware to use. The instructions from a neonates perspective are awful. Figured out the firmware and ran into the wall that is the Z offset. Oh man! I didn’t get too frustrated because I accepted it was beyond me at that point so I walked away for the evening. In my trouble shooting research I actually saw a thread that mentioned the Marlin Z Offset Wizzard but crawling then walking came to mind. I might give that a shot as I patiently await your Z Offset solution. I appreciate your work and I’ll compensate your time through purchases through your sites etc. Shaun

you are honestly a lifesaver for giving us that software i have been searching for days lmao

I originally found you on TT. But i have to admit, this was a very professional and informative video. Honestly, i could see you doing this professionally for a living. Keep up the good work and I'll be waiting for new videos to appear.

Great video. I bought an E3V2 really early on and attempted to put a BLTouch on it right away. Fighting with firmware and not wanting to compile my own, I abandoned it. I struggled with manual bed leveling for too long and some nozzle clogs. Then my E3V2 became a nice dust collector for nearly a year. Anyway, this video inspired me to put a little effort back into getting it up and running. Bought the CRTouch, reverted from a direct drive modification and went back to a stock setup with this ABL sensor. I'm now printing really high quality prints again with ease and loving it. Thanks for the great video!

@TheTurbinator

2 жыл бұрын

Download the Jyers marlin firmware for the E3v2. It's like getting a whole new printer. Makes it seem like a an E3v11.

@TruFilmProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTurbinator Your right! Night and day difference. My Ender 3 V2 prints beautifully now. Jyers really did an outstanding job.

I'm glad to see more competition of bed leveling sensors that aren't just copies of the BL Touch. I went with BL touch to support them though. If I need a sensor on a new printer I'll certainly consider the CR Touch.

This video was filmed really nicely. The lighting, the camera work, the editing, everything looks super professional. Keep up the good work.

Check out the Blog Post about this sensor for more Photos and Testing Details: www.hotrodhippie.com/post/new-creality-cr-touch-abl-vs-bl-touch-sensor-for-3d-printers Link to my GitHub with the Firmware (Ender 3 with 4.2.7 Board ONLY): github.com/MandicReally/CR-Touch-Firmware Also newer versions of the CR Touch exist that come with an SD Card and an "Anti-Rattle" piece on them now.

@victoreliasbenavidesbenavi2962

2 жыл бұрын

works great!!

@joshuamasterson2062

2 жыл бұрын

Does this firmware have the Z offset wizard as well? or nah?

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuamasterson2062 nope, it’s one of the things I criticized Creality for not including. I haven’t tested any newer releases (if there are any).

@mrdaneens

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally Do you still have the software that you used containing the wizard? It would be really helpful to have for a beginner like me.

@augeralexandre8678

2 жыл бұрын

ender 3 pro have a 4.2.2 or 4.2.7?

I just bought this kit for $32. I got a SD card with all the instructions pre installed on it, and setting it up was very easy. All 3 brackets are also included!

@kevinw7319

2 жыл бұрын

Where from?

@zeeshanahmad149

2 жыл бұрын

From Ali express

@nubdefender3331

2 жыл бұрын

amazon

@joosepvorno7938

Жыл бұрын

wich one? BL or CL?

Great video, but I think the firmware story is everything. There's so much in the marlin firmware that makes life easier that Creality could ship if they could be bothered to put in the dev time. The marlin corners wizard, both in probe and non probe varieties is probably the most helpful thing I can think of that's missing, but it's been a while since I used Creality stock firmware. 0.04 accuracy is a full step of your z, you need a well sorted printer to benefit from less than that, and my experience of bl-touch and the better clones is they're mostly within one microstep and variance might be because the true reading is closer or further away from an exact step.

First video coming from TikTok, great production value👍🏼 One of my new favorite printing channels out there. That being said I told myself from the beginning to ‘learn the hard way’ and forget the bl-touch; wanting to master manually leveling the bed before buying one. I felt like I had, so I purchased the CR touch after watching this video and I’m glad I did. First layers are nearly perfect every time and it takes some of the worry out of starting a print and wondering if it’ll survive 😂 only issue I seem to have with mine is the rattle coming from the metal touch probe as it prints, but I’ll live with it for now

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I agree that is the best way to go. A Bed Level sensor is just a "nice to have" that supplements a good manual leveling. Supposedly they have updated the CR-Touch to deal with the rattle. My original one never really had that issue but I have one of the new ones too to see if it happens on the updated design. Just haven't had any time to mess with it yet.

Loved your fabrication content, glad I stumbled on this channel!

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here! Fabrication content will be ramping back up more in the near future too!

I've seen a LOT of 3DP videos. I don't think I've ever seen this subscriber count (1.2k @ time of writing) and this quality of content. I also don't think I've subbed after watching 1 short video from a channel. SUBBED

Loved the video and your testing method, and have the BL and CR Touch and am thinking of installing the CR and giving it a try. There is one additional comment on the differences between the BL and CR which may be a deciding factor for someone using the CR Touch, i.e. it doesn't require a leveling screw. The biggest pain point I've had with the BL Touch is the probe randomly deciding to not drop, and using the adjustment screw is hit-and-miss. Also when cleaning or replacing the probe on the BL Touch the set screw needs to be recalibrated, so not having to worry about the set screw fine tuning is a bonus.

I really like the placement of the port on top. The metal probe is interesting and I like the general look.

This is a pretty high quality video, you should have more than 739 subscribers.

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I'm plugging away at making more content, hopefully the subscribers catch out.

@prakesh2904

2 жыл бұрын

Well he is close to doubling that number now!

hey! i was your 1K! Dope, i enjoy using your nuke and keg barrel design!

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for carrying us over the line! And glad you like the designs. 👌🏻👍🏻

Salut de France ! Thank you very much for your very accurate video for the installation of the CR Touch on a 3V1 Ender in 4.2.7. The provision of the firmware in 1.1.2 helped me well because the official on the website of Creality is a horror. Thanks again a lot, my old and faithful Ender 3 wonderfully walking!

Nice video bro. Fast, Short and direct. Keep the same way to teach. Thanks.

I bought the CR touch because of this video! Works great after I worked through the nightmare that was the z offset. The directions were..... not good. You should do a video on calibrating it:-) I'm excited for the ender 3 v2 display to be natively supported by Marlin. Might get to use that magically Z Offset Wizard you speak of.

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

I started working on a Z Offset video today after quite a few folks asking.

@firestormjr1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally video released?

@MysteryDuels

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally video released?

@roccofilippi1418

2 жыл бұрын

Link to the video? Please. My S1 will be in Thursday. I'm starting from nothing. Lol. Can't find anyone local that does this yet.

@socaljzx

Жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally Any update on this release of the video?

So glad i discovered your Chanel

I give up on using a feeler gauge or paper. Doing it for nearly four years, enough is enough. Time for ABL thank you for the most useful and above all helpful tutorial.

Thanks for all the detail. The part about “z axis offset” really helped me. I didn’t know what this meant. I installed my CR Touch and got usable firmware that works with my touchscreen on my Ender 3 but I had almost no success with it, I suspect because I didn’t do the z axis offset. I’ll retry my CR Touch with this info.

Just purchased in 2023 kit is the same... same issues I am having issues seeing up firmware and offset! Thanks for this review

Firstly thank you for confirming that it's a straight swap with the BL. Something that amuses me is how many install videos feed the big end into the board and mention the difficulty, but when I installed the BL I ran the small end out the other way and it was easy

Well the CR Touch has two things I like about it that I didn't like about the original: the flimsy probe is gone and it doesn't look god awful anymore. The flickering led inside the white chassis just really looked out of place on any of my 3D printers/

@ianboard544

Жыл бұрын

I didn't like the lights because I have a camera with octoprint and it just lights up the whole frame - very distracting.

Best video totally sold me on it I am putting it on a Promega creality core-z I'm working on

gettin one soon because of this review

This is how a review should be done!

Thank you for this excellent breakdown. I just replaced my original Ender 3 V1.1.4 board with a V4.2.7 and am working on setting up a CR Touch for the first time. As of Sept. 2022, it appears that the "2020-04-25" BLTouch Merlin firmware is still the most current copy. My only big complaint about Creality is exactly as you described. Their instructions and repositories are a complete mess. Every new Creality accessory I buy sends me to a different URL that is usually a dead link or entirely foreign (Chinese) page. I am very thankful for channels like this one that understand how to communicate information targeted toward the consumer/hobbyist instead of engineers/professionals. Even though I'll be done with this project today, I'd still like to request a video on tuning Z-Offsets in this scenario as you mentioned. It would be extremely helpful to people like me who don't tend to mess around in the controls/firmware very often because of how much niche and conflicting information is out there. I think people will be making these upgrades on the Ender 3 series for many years to come and your presentation style for this would be incredibly helpful and appreciated! Thanks again for your effort and sharing your wisdom with the rest of us!

man i really like the tunnel u have in yo ears :D interesting position ngl als great vid, i have my ender 3 pro for 3 yrs now and barely used it after a while, currently im getting back into and getting some upgrades. even tho i probably wont get autoleveling since my printer is still almost full stock, i have alot of other stuff to upgrade :D

Great video. Definitely worth a sub :)

Quality work here.

good video. seems a very fair comparison and rating. First time viewer of your channel. I have a BL Touch on an Ender 3 Pro that seems to be flaky every now and again. just stopping during a pre-print check and definitely stopping infrequently when doing a full bed level. Seems to have been fixed by putting a zip tie around the BL Touch just above the connector holding the cable to the body. seems like it might be a bad connection when the hot end is moving around and the cable would move. Thinking about replacing, and may do a CR Touch instead of another BL touch.

Great video, Thanks!

Hey, very nice in depth review, you helped me decide to get a CR Touch instead of a BL Touch! Just one question, my CR Touch has a rattle, vibration noise, when my printer moves the print assembly in the X axis. I tracked it down to the actual probe metal tip, if I just touch it stops rattling against the plastic body. Have you had any level of rattling noise on your tests?

Pre production? I got mine a couple of weeks before this video from Amazon for a few bucks cheaper than the bl touch ($34). I fed the lead through the loom from the pcb side, it’s easy. I downloaded and installed the Jyers firmware and totally recommend it. Good review!

@JayzStudio

2 жыл бұрын

What did you put it on ender3?

Nice! I like the BLTouch much better than the EZABL. I was going to replace my EZABL on my other Ender 3 with another BLTouch, and with your tests, I know I have a better option. I'm basically choosing for the better look more than better accuracy.

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

I like that physical probes stow away further from the print. I worry about curling parts with the PINDA sensor on my Prusa machine. I’ve had a few bridging sections get messed up on the Prusa and I think that’s why (though I didn’t witness it).

I’m running tiny machines firmware with my cr10s with the bl touch. If I went with the cr touch would I need to flash with the creality firmware or is it plug and play once one or the other is already in place?

thanks, i got a couple old a8 plus's i'm about to retrofit and think this would be a good addition to the design

Very nice video, an informative and comprehensive comparison. Sub'd the moment I saw your Vegan Power tshirt too ;) Keep up the great work bro

You should probably have shared the standard deviation for the m48, the average is good, but a repeatability once of 0 and once of 0.002 would average out to 0.001.

So I have a CR-10 v2 and had a horrible time with leveling. I purchased a BL touch and thought the instructions were horrid and never attached it. Ultimately this killed my desire to print. This was probably 2 years ago. I got the bug again but instead bought a CR-6 se with auto bed leveling and this has been a night and day difference. After seeing this, I will probably purchase a CR Touch and try to resurrect my CR 10 v2. Thank you!

Old versions of bltouch used to come with metal probe. But they moved to plastic as the metal in the probe would expand and measure longer in heated situations

@noway8233

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 3dtouch, the oin looks like metal, but its not, well its plastic with a metal cover...i think thats its was yuo saw

Getting the CR touch today. I’ll let you know. I’m also adding it to my Creality Direct Drive on my Ender 3 v2 .

just found your channel, gotta say, I like your style. Good focus on detail, but kept it moving. Looking forward to seeing your other videos. how do you make those bed visualizations? For years I've been looking at the raw data like matrix code & my bed a 22" round, so its a lot a data

I opted for the CR Touch mostly because of the probe sturdiness and I liked the look. I found it difficult to install the cable and had to take it off my 3d printer in order to plug the cable in. Also, on the cable I received the blue and red wires were swapped though luckily they were swapped on both ends so it did not affect the operation. It works well though the mesh is not centered on the build plate. Probably because after I installed the Micro Swiss Direct drive, the nozzle homes off the build plate now.

My BL Touch just bent its pin for the second time and is now failing. Thanks for your video I'm getting the CR-Touch now.

This is awesome Other then my bad experiences with BLTouch (pain in my ass lol) this looks really nice and I may just have to try it out. Specially with this whole Z Offset Wizard. That's the entire reason I ditched the bltouch, dang offset got so annoying to change anytime something was even remotely changed, bumped or anything lol.

I bought a cheap knock off BL touch and kept having issues with it dropping the probe when the nozzle went to do the prime at the edge. So I bought a genuine BL touch and it did the same thing. When I updated Cura the problem went away. Neither ABL sensors have any issues now. I don't know about accuracy, but the $24 cheaper works just fine.

I recently purchased and installed and they did update the kit. I still had an issue with the firmware that i downloaded from the site. After loading sd card my screen was blank. I ended up trying the firmware that came on the sd card they sent and after trying a couple the ender 3 pro version load and flashed properly. I ran some mobility tests and was found i had a loose wire on one of the stepper motors. In the process of troubleshooting that i tried the other firmwares i download and they loaded and flashed properly after that. I’m not sure what i did wrong but it’ll seems to be working now. So far I’m really liking the CR Touch. I wish i had found this video before i attempted the install though!

Thank you sir for this. Question for you, are you using Repetier Host, OctoPrint, or something else while running these tests and bed leveling?

Good shit. I was about to go crazy and break shit. You saved me a lot emotions. I got to print a lot of things.

I bought an ender 3 s1 from microcenter as my first printer because there was a deal and was only $200, it comes stock with a CRtouch and i love it, i manually tram then run abl, with PVA glue i get a nice flat first layer every time

Still somewhat confusing for this noob. I will be getting this , along with the 4.2.7 board and V2 Display to update my Ender 3 PRO in a big way. I get the install and even the firmware upgrade to enable the touch sensor. What I don't see a lot of info on is how to set up the height of the probe relative to the nozzle and what other changes are needed to get this to work. YOu touched on one I had not heard but it makes sense - I wont need the Z switch any longer as the CR Touch will take care of this. Thank you for a great video.

Creality has a newer updated firmware on there site now for the cr touch. It seems to be a more up to date version of Marlin with way more features. I tried cfw but it didn't let me adjust the z offset at all. The only issue I have with creality's firmware is that I can't adjust the z offset with baby stepping.

@Bubu567

Жыл бұрын

If you plug into the printer, you can send a specific z-offset, if you need something in between. I have never needed more resolution myself. The gcode is M851. So if you need a z-probe offset of -2.521 you send 'M851 Z-2.521'

Follow you on TikTok and love your work.

i got this a little bit ago! must say installation is pretty easy (at least from what ive done) i have a 1.1.4 board on my ender 3 (it came with it sadly), its 8 bit and does not have the pins needed i have a 1.2.7 board coming in the mail and it has the port good build quality

11:17 The visualizations require a known 100% accurate control to be of actual value against each other. Otherwise you would have conflicting images w/ no real understanding of which is correct. However, the accuracy values, and those images you've shown basically say the 2 are within margin of error of each other.

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

The point of including the visualizations was that in the absence of a known good value, all we could do is compare the readings between the two to see if they were reading similarly. The visualizations show they are. As you noted, I did provide more data than JUST the visualizations though. Yes they are arguably just margin of error from one another, that was largely my point here. I wasn't trying to tell folks "BL TOUCH IS NOT ACCURATE!" just show whether Creality's offering is comparable. Many people automatically assumed the CR Touch was a cheap knock-off off the BL Touch that would not be as good. I set out to see if that was accurate and found it was not. This isn't meant to be a scientific study of the effectiveness of a Probe Type bed level sensor, just a comparison of two against each other. Arguably in this instance the BL Touch IS the "Control" as it is the most widely adopted Touch Type probe on the market.

Just subscribed, now you are at 908, only 92 left to go.

Please test the BLtouch while turning hotend and bed heating on and off. I've had that significantly influence 3D-touch results, I think because of the current spikes causing EM pulses throwing off the Hall sensor. The original BLtouch might be "tuned" to better avoid this, but gimme an optical sensor over a Hall sensor any day ...

@Alex-kr7zr

2 жыл бұрын

Is there more data on this topic?

Awesome video! Can you link me to the stl for the bottom left covers. I haven't been able to find a decent that fits good. tks!

Thank you, one question solved in this video. I have another question - Can I attach v2 motherboard inside the older CR 10S pro?

Was a little ironic that you said how confusing their website was to find the firmware, added that you had a link to the one file that worked for you...but ended up just linking to their confusing website anyway. Other than that, it was a pretty neat video.

Really enjoy your videos bit off topic Do u have tpu profiles for ender3v2 that you use ? Tks for listening.

WOW! Finally, a creator who knows 3D printing AND video production! I have watched so many channels with good content, but terrible audio and/or video. A certain channel for 3D printing has a huge number of pattern supporters, but uses the on camera mic. I have a Geeetech A20M and a 3D Touch that works, ok. I'm thinking about buying the Ender 3-s because I have so many issues with getting my A20M to work, and that printer comes with the CR touch installed.

I had nothing but trouble from my BL Touch. I am an engineer. I watched every video out there. It just kept sticking. I should have sent it back, but I am stubborn. I watched this video. Bought the CR Touch. It has worked flawlessly for weeks now. I probably got a bad BL Touch so I am not saying don't buy one. But I value my time and the CR Touch has been perfect.

Can you put the firmware they sent you back in the description? The current firmware on their website doesn't work for me. I can't go below 0 on Z offset.

Hi, I have the CR Touch and I'm finding that the test squares at the back are showing signs that they are a little too far away from the bed. However all other squares around the bed are perfect, when looking through a magnifier. Any suggestions welcome.

Found your video most helpful. I have just bought myself a CR Touch for my Ender 3. When I went to download the firmware I was completely lost and ended up reaching out to Creality for help. The file they sent me is for Marlin 1.1.2 2020-04-25. My mainboard is 4.2.2. Although it does operate the CR I am having a lot of problems with setting up the Z offset. It certainly does not contain the auto wizard you mention. So I was wondering if you could recommend a different file to download? One of the issues I have is after doing the bed leveling, the screen shows an error saying "Err To Far away" or something along those lines. So Im guessing that it is setting the z height to high as anything I try to print, the first layer doesnot stick to the board. I was hoping to figure out how to get the wizard you mentioned see if it helps with more accuracy. Thanks for the video.

Hi just watched your video very good info. I am just wondering can it be used on the CR-X model ? Also do you have a video on how to use it. Thanks

Great video Alan, Is there a way to apply the print bed map back so the first print layer is optimised?

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

A properly configured firmware should automatically do that if you run a G29 command before each print. The instructions with the CR Touch tell you to set that up in your slicer. Or if you don’t want to run a level every single print (I recommend it tho) you can run a M420 S1 command to used the last saved mesh data. Then you’d have to manually run the Level procedure from time to time to update that.

So I had the same issue with the CR touch install process with the provided instructions. MY board is the 4.2.2, is there a recommended firmware to use for this?

Nice test on both devices. However, I'm missing an important (IMHO) test. Heat resistance. BLtouch melts on heated chambers. It'd be fine to check if the CRTouch has better heat resistance in those situations. ;-)

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely would be interesting to see the results. None of my machines run chambers so not something I’ll be testing anytime soon. Maybe eventually I can find a good situation to test that. 👌🏻

My BL Touch just stopped working... this review came at a good time. Insted of ordering a new probe, i'll just upgrade the gizmo. Hoping this one has a longer life than just a few months.

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

I hope it works well for you. The one thing I can't factor into reviews like this is Long Term testing. Just not enough time for that to be realistic while still getting a review out in a timely manner. The ONLY issue I've had so far was it didn't work on my Elegoo Neptune 2 at all. However that system is... funky even with the BL Touch (I'll discuss it in a dedicated video soon). So who knows what was up there.

HI MandicReally nice comparison, love the fact you opened it up, on a side note have you shared the e3d mount for the replicator anywhere ? :)

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I haven’t released that design yet as I haven’t completed my build. I don’t release designs until I’m satisfied they are ready. I will absolutely do so when I’m ready. I really need to build that machine and get it running, so sooner than later I hope. I’ll definitely post videos and announce when it is released. 👌🏻

@haroutiounarakelian2520

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally cool will keep a lookout :)

I am pretty grumpy about this purchase, from the CREALITY website, the ENDER 3-v2 with the 4.2.2 board and the CR-TOUCH sensor, and put it together, had fun doing that, and printed out the PDF instructions and for the HOW-TO slicer software and put all that into a 3 ring binder and one step at a time, finally get to turn the power on..... 90 hours later (no joke) going down a rabbit hole of common problems that folks have as I trouble shoot the many problems my unit has from the factory, shorted out cables, which torched the drivers of the motherboard, the powersupply has a fluttering output of 19vDC to 36vDC with a 2 ms dropout approx every 20 ms when I hook this piece of junk up to the oscilloscope, the Z-axis is intermittent due to poorly constructed cable. I can go on and on about how depressing this whole thing has been. yet, I am at a stand still as I am now expected to wait on an email from CREALITY, which I did get, but it was first needing to confirm that I did buy a machine from them, "proof of purchase" which is fine, but now I wait... I was reading a few REDDIT post, and folks there were saying, it may take months before they reply back, just hoping you will go away... That breaks my heart. as I was super excited for this and didn't mind spending the additional $80 to $100 USD buying it through the CREALITY website, in hopes that would mean I am getting an untampered with new unit, vs. some of the issues I have had with AMAZON resellers and affiliates, which sent out NEW but ended up being used, LOL... Nah, my experiece with this has been exceptionally irritating.

The ender 3 pro I picked up last month also had a 'sorta silent' 4.2.2 board. I think most on the shelf still have this board.

Is there any chance you could compile the firmware for the 4.2.2 board? I have had nothing but trouble with any of the creality releases and tried doing it myself with 0 luck as well. TIA!

So it works with the Merlin wizard or do I have to use the creality one? And if so then good but how do I upload the Merlin program onto the printer itself because that is something I need to know as I haven’t done this at all. Also can I just change the code to enable the settings in merlin by just clicking it and so on? I’m not great with code

Great vid! My very small gripe with the BL touch is how much noise the metal rod makes when moving around. I also couldn't properly update my firmware for two weeks. Small suggestion for the video: at 9:00 there is a lot going on and I think burring out the background further would help tell the pictures and text apart. Great content and camera work!

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the constructive input. After I was all done this edit I kind of felt that same way but was too beat to go back. Now that I see someone else feels that way I will bear it in mind. 👌🏻

great video. with my ender 3 the correction works the wrong way round. do you have a solution for that? that would be great

i have the ender 3 v2 and i tried to get the CR touch to work for over 10 hours to no avail. i have the 4.2.2 board and thought i had the right firmware but i still havnt gotten it to work.

Does this only work with Creality-provided firmware and boards, or can we use it with BL-Touch enabled Marlin firmware on an SKR Mini E3 v2?

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

Despite them being entirely different sensors the Firmware views them the same way. So yes you can use it with a BTT Board and just configure Marlin as if it was a BL Touch. That is how I compiled my own firmware for the 4.2.2 board. I haven't installed it on my machine with the SKR Mini E3 in it, but the Firmware should not care at all and the port wiring is the same.

@PtR-ec1wz

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally that means that you can simply replace the bl-touch with the cr touch? too lazy to open up my printer now. and i do want to replace my bl touch as the stick got warped due to a non sticking print...

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

@@PtR-ec1wz you should be able to, yes. I’ve done it a couple times. On my Elegoo Neptune 2 it didn’t work, for no reason I can discern. But everywhere else I’ve tried it’s been fine. (Creality and BTT boards.

Mad good content for the amount of subscribers you have mate. I've stumbled upon a gem of a channel. (vegang as well, fuck yea)

I've ran an Ender 3v2 and now a CR10v3 with the BL and CR touches and I haven't ever seen the benefits of either. Am I wrong in thinking it should act as a compensation for a warped bed? For example, I've got a Snapmaker Original and there's no way to level the bed itself, but you go through and adjust the four corners. Granted, the bed is a 4" square, but you adjust the corners and the machine compensates for any high or low spots on the bed... Am I wrong in thinking the BL and CR's should do the same, essentially? Or am I doing something wrong? Cause it's super frustrating when you've got a warped bed and no way to print anything outside of the middle few inches of a 12" build plate.

Been nervous to add ABL to my e3... Maybe I'll give this one a go.

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

I can't give any long term reliability testing yet obviously but like I said, I'm leaving it on the Ender 3. May pick another one up for another project.

@HardcoreSlot

3 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally most definitely gonna stay tuned. Found you on tictok, love your stuff!

I like my CR Touch. However, my PiCam is mounted the the box covering the gantry stepper motor and the CR Touch is big enough that it hits the PiCam bracket before the limit switch... that was the only problem I had. I just relocated the camera. Haven't had any issues with the CR Touch.

I am running a Creality CR-X printer and it has a BL-Touch currently installed on it the main board is the creality v2.1.1 and due to mishap I had I am replacing that board with a Creality v2.2 board since the BL-Touch was operating fine, do you think the CR -Touch will work it can be mounted in the same location which is on the right side of the hotend and I still will have to get the correct firmware and because of what you mentioned I am a little leary I really like the aspect of the metal probe instead of the plastic one. In subsequent Bed levelings I get a difference that I feel falls out side of the range so am looking for a better way or product

OK, I"m pretty new. I mean I have printed some pretty complicated car parts I designed in Fusion 360, but I am still really new to 3D printing... SO, you mentioned being able to factor in bed warp (after you did some probe test with some software..h ahhah I said I was new)... Do you have a video explaining how this is done AND is there an auto bed leveler for the CR10-5S ? As my parts are too large to print on any other printer and I have a CR10-5S ???

Hey, great video. Could you tell me how you can get that warped-bed map at 10:58? Ive been looking for a way to see what my bed distortion is. Is this a software on the PC?

@MandicReally

2 жыл бұрын

You have to use a combination of some type of "Console" printer control (Such as via Pronterface or OctoPrint) and web programs that produce the map. I think there is an OctoPrint plugin as well that can do it within the OctoPrint platform. This is the one I used in this video: lokspace.eu/3d-printer-auto-bed-leveling-mesh-visualizer/

@JJones-gw9vy

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally Thank you for the reply. I'm checking it out as we speak.

Currently in the process of installing a bl on my ender 3v2 and the firmware isn’t working. I have the 4.2.2 board with out the adapter. Any recommendations?

@MandicReally

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by “Firmware isn’t working”? Does it not have Auto Bed Leveling features in the firmware? Firmware went to black screen and won’t boot? The sensor isn’t functioning properly? Sorry I need more info to be of any help.

So, which Marlin firmware for a CR Touch and a 4.2.2 board? Link? I'll even take the Creality firmware for the CR Touch to start. Thank you!

@noway8233

2 жыл бұрын

Alway use the last Marlin , just download, change it to yuor own options , compile(vs code),and run

Thanks for your helpful input, you helped me make the decision between the two. Considering that I have an authentic borosilicate glass bed that wouldn't be worth breaking because of a non replaceable metal probe on the CL touch. I went with the BL Touch 3.1

Thanks for the vid, i was installing it and I need to see how it operates, as I was seeing it as place higher than my hotend, meaning it would have smacked into the bed catastrophically... But of course it lowers it print to sense much like bl touch, do it's a none issue... I use the jyers firmware, and I had a bltouch installed there before, until I froze it and broke with done clue, because I sprayed way to liberally

Where is the info on setting the Z axis? Thanks. Great video

WoW what a Cool guy !!! I now also have a CRTouch and would like to include it in Marlin. Currently I have the Ender3pro with Silentboard 4.2.7 and Marlin in version 2.0.9.2 ... Unfortunately I can't find anyone who can help me. Very clear videos that describe this, there are unfortunately not yet. Could you give me there possibly, tips on how I approach the whole? Is the firmware here on your link exactly what I need ? It would be nicer if you could make a video where exactly the things are set in Marlin. Thanks for your great video !

Thanks for this video. I also would like Creality to update their firmware more often. Why is it so hard to find a version of their firmware that has both the filament runout sensor and the auto-bed leveling? Sigh.

@MysteryDuels

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have one?

@michaellindborg1510

2 жыл бұрын

Go for Jyers, so much better than stock.

@Phelps3D

2 жыл бұрын

@@MysteryDuels I have both parts of hardware. Still looking for firmware that has both active in it. Not confident in compiling my own.

@paulmyfinger

2 жыл бұрын

im still struggling to find a firmware that isnt 180 out. most annoying

@michaellindborg1510

2 жыл бұрын

I was also hesitant to compile my own version of Jyers but it turned out to be really simple. Just edit two files with the desired options and press a button to compile. Super easy. Check out Brians video for step by step: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paNkqMh_hqjTmdo.html