Big thanks to Max from Tasting History for joining us once again! Check out our last video together on Roman Fast Food restaurants: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qGmF3JJplbisZbQ.html

@dukesilver702

2 жыл бұрын

"Could you make a Hamburger in Ancient Rome?" is the fundamental question that scholars have always been afraid to ask.

@MrChristopherMolloy

2 жыл бұрын

Eggs and chopped-meat equal a meatloaf, not a burger.

@stickthesecond5085

2 жыл бұрын

HAMBURGIR

@MajorJakas

2 жыл бұрын

No thanks at all to "How to Make Everything" for making the original video this morning?

@TannerSwizel

2 жыл бұрын

@@MajorJakas An odd coincidence, sure, but Invicta made this video with custom graphics, a sponsor to sign off on it, and it had a collaboration. You can't just smack together a video like this in 8 hours. Also, Invicta has been on the topic of Roman fast food ever since a fast food stand in Pompeii was unearthed, this is simply a follow up from that.

"I have tried the most fascinating meal today. It is said to be a recipe for ground beef and cheese invented by a barbarian from north of Hadrian's Wall who goes by the name of Macdonald...."

@Alizudo

2 жыл бұрын

It always makes me laugh when I remember that McDonald is a Scottish name. It seems so out of place!

@rahowherox1177

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alizudo well the don part is latin.

@andryuu_2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@rahowherox1177 yeah Donaldo is a medieval Italian name

@BrewPackBuck12

2 жыл бұрын

Ronald Mcdonald

@thabomuso6254

2 жыл бұрын

McDonalds didn't invent the hamburger though. He was great of industrializing food preparation and serving. On the other hand I find McDonald hamburgers untasty. I buy food there when I am in great hurry.

Thank you again for having me on!

@MyHentaiGirlNeko

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha glad you are popping up left and right !

@hndrwn

2 жыл бұрын

Someday, I really hope you will open a historic restaurant. Let them eat history =D

@ImAnEmergency

2 жыл бұрын

THE RISE OF MAX

@TastingHistory

2 жыл бұрын

@@hndrwn this sounds like a lot of work. Can I just maitre d’ and ask people how their meal is? 🤣

@jackcr3937

2 жыл бұрын

@@TastingHistory Hey Max! Is the video of you making the patties going to be released on your channel soon? Or have I missed it and it’s up already?

IMO, it wouldn't be too hard to make a Fillet-o-Fish in Ancient Rome either. Ancient Rome already had bread, fish, frying techniques, cheese and tzatziki.

@boujeecaveman3103

2 жыл бұрын

Ancient McDonald’s Confirmed

@tbishop4961

2 жыл бұрын

Tzatziki absolutely is not tartar sauce. Nobody in their right mind eats tartar sauce by spoonful. I can attest to doing so with tzatziki

@Deridus

2 жыл бұрын

@@tbishop4961 ... I am glad I am not alone in this.

@KentuckyFriedChildren

2 жыл бұрын

@@tbishop4961 Tzatziki gang

@SnozBerryQueen

2 жыл бұрын

@@KentuckyFriedChildren gang gang. That shits good on EVERYTHING!

Since so much of what we now see as "Italian" food has New World ingredients, I think it would be interesting to take a look at how close you could get to a few staples like Spaghetti and Meatballs or Lasagna on the streets of the Mayan Empire.

@20firebird

2 жыл бұрын

see, that makes ME wonder how well you could make them in italy before europeans found the new world...

@ArturoLopez-ly2pn

2 жыл бұрын

Ok now you got me wondering if you can make pasta with corn flour Edit: YOU CAN

@octaviogutierrez9158

2 жыл бұрын

Mayans, Aztecs and Incas created and ate first a lot of global modern meals like Tomatoes, Corn, turkey meat, Potatoes, beans, Chili peppers, Pumpkins ,Chocolate, Tacos, Popcorn, guacamole or Pulque at the same time when they built their stone pyramids and cities.

@Yingyanglord1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArturoLopez-ly2pnAlso instead of marnara there other cheese and fish based sauces

@gertvanderstraaten6352

2 жыл бұрын

@@octaviogutierrez9158 There are beans in Eurasia, just different one. But it's still an impressive list.

"A true Roman hamburger" Well first you're going to need some true Roman bread for true Romans.

@Th3Nigma

2 жыл бұрын

Made in a mass kiln from the Roman government dole.

@TastingHistory

2 жыл бұрын

From the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers perhaps?

@malleableconcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I think you mean trve Roman bread for trve Romans

@pipebomber04

2 жыл бұрын

Only the best from the miller guild

@einsjam

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there 😊😂😊😂😊😊

Now I want some Japanese light novel author to make a book about some chef being isekaied back to Ancient Rome and setting up a hamburger joint.

@westrim

2 жыл бұрын

There is at least one restaurant isekai, structured so that there are doors in a fantasy world/s that all lead to a restaurant in Japan (where most of the foods are western, if sometimes filtered through Japanese culture, like Hamburg steak). It's called Restaurant to Another World.

@Knoloaify

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that, but there is Thermae Romae. Which is about a Roman architect being randomly iskai'd to Japan and thus discovering contemporary Japanese bath culture and implementing some of its elements into Roman baths whenever he's transported back to his world. It's quite funny.

@jacobcantrell82

2 жыл бұрын

@@Knoloaify Yeah Thermae is pretty good. Another great manga set in Rome is Ad Astra which covers the Second Punic War.

@wills.e.e8014

2 жыл бұрын

Izakaya Nobu anyone?

@amey_pathak

2 жыл бұрын

There's one manga called "Nobunaga no Chef' where a modern day chef gets isekai'd into oda nobunaga's time period and becomes his chef. Pretty good read.

The Spanish - especially the Catalans - claim that the Romans DID have a form of "mayo" - look at aïoli. They claim that it was Nero who invented it.

@andryuu_2000

2 жыл бұрын

That's not invented by Nero. It's much older, and it's just a garlic mayo sauce, used in all western Mediterranean shores (Liguria and Catalunya mainly)

@solwen

2 жыл бұрын

The ingredients for mayo have always been very cheap and common in Europe and the Middle East. There is no reason they did not figure out the recipe millenia ago.

@Alguien644

19 күн бұрын

Nah thats not mayo, I'm spanish and yeah it kind of has a bit of similar flavour, but alioli isnt too similar

caesar’s grill would probably get you arrested for defamation, although “fortune flavors the bold” is legendary

"A street preacher in a backwater town of a distant province even made a parable about mustard seeds." Gee, I wonder who that could be?

@ryanbrown4053

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man can't believe I didn't catch that at first lol. Repping my man JC

@SM-zl4zd

2 жыл бұрын

"Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild idea, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was…I forget. But the point is…I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car."

@QuizmasterLaw

2 жыл бұрын

that's just unfair. this parable reveals yeshua's hindu lehre. of course its a mystery lol. he was just some guy who thought EVERYONE is god right, and wrong, and so here we are.

@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuizmasterLaw that’s nowhere near what he taught

@pjthehomelessmage

2 жыл бұрын

@@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822 name checks out. 👍

Let's call this burger Bigus Macus

@Deridus

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Burger Rex just doesn't seem... Roman enough.

@OverseerMoti

2 жыл бұрын

Magnus Macus?

@TRG29338

2 жыл бұрын

I have a good friend in Rome named Bigus Macus...

@Deridus

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRG29338 He has a wife, you know. Incontinentia... Incontinentia Taco.

@cpob2013

2 жыл бұрын

Vopper

Love Tasting History. Y’all should collab more :)

@Carnomus

2 жыл бұрын

Blackscape wyd here

@ekoeko6994

2 жыл бұрын

What's up checkmark

@chancethewrapper3557

2 жыл бұрын

Knew you liked history

@evansenju5986

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't expecting you to be here....

15:54 "Mustard was so common, that a street preacher in a back water town of a distant province even made a parable about the mustard seeds, that we still know of today" - he's is talking about Jesus right?

@andryuu_2000

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@martytu20

2 жыл бұрын

“What good comes out of Nazareth?”

@glasscardproductions4736

2 жыл бұрын

@@martytu20, philosophers, apparently.

@DIEGhostfish

2 жыл бұрын

Took me a few to realize that too.

@kork3519

2 жыл бұрын

@@martytu20 mustard

>ancient romans thought butter was to be enjoyed only by barbarian peoples. My inner harlaus is screaming.

@Thirdperson820

2 жыл бұрын

We're at war with four other nations. High time to go on a feast.😂

@karl-heinzgrabowski3022

2 жыл бұрын

mfw butter is still the most important part of a sandwich in Germany

@mixermaster10

2 жыл бұрын

@@karl-heinzgrabowski3022 Same here in Estonia. I can't understand how people eat sandwiches without butter, I've seen so many people do that in US and it boggles my mind... like isn't it dry af otherwise

@thecheekychinaman6713

2 жыл бұрын

Romans weren't butterlords

@petrmaly9087

2 жыл бұрын

Screaming "BARBARBARBAR"?

Burger Emperor, soon in every major city's forum.

@Tareltonlives

2 жыл бұрын

Burgures rex

@paw0960

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tareltonlives burger sex 😰

@joebidengaming5525

2 жыл бұрын

@@paw0960 😳

@Sleepy_Cabbage

2 жыл бұрын

"the burgers are better at the roman empire"

A guy named Magnum fumus in caesars chariot-thru: "I'll have two number IX's, a number IX large, a number VI with extra garum, a number VII, a two number XLV's, one with caseus, and a large posca".

@Jamhael1

Жыл бұрын

Sejanus: "Make it two posca."

The grape must sauce that Max talked about for the beef in caul fat could be mixed with vinegar and garum to make a passable ketchup substitute. It meets the flavor requirements of being salty, sour, and sweet.

@chriss780

2 жыл бұрын

try it you madman and tell us if its actually good lol, im curious

This channel has come so far from Total War battles.

@InvictaHistory

2 жыл бұрын

I do miss making battles videos but find the ability to cover subjects beyond military history to be highly liberating

@TheXarus

2 жыл бұрын

@@InvictaHistory I think the culture and the everyday man type of videos are so much more interesting and useful for creating a mental image of Ancient Rome. Everyone does battles but your stuff is the best because you show us stuff no one else does

@jamesmichael5

2 жыл бұрын

Wait this channel has battle vids..how did I miss that🤣🤣

@QuantumHistorian

2 жыл бұрын

@@InvictaHistory There are so many channels that do military history, please stick to your more diverse approach! Military history might be beloved of pop history, but it's only a tiny part of the whole field. Modern historiography has found other things to study that are of much deeper importance to a society than the size of chainmail rings they used.

@QuizmasterLaw

2 жыл бұрын

i came for the "o god, what did we do, how do we stop that, what if it happens again" I DID NOT STAY FOR THE BURNT COWFLESH AND COWS MILK IS A GOD DAMNGED SIN

That was really intersting, but I'm disappointed that we did not see Max making this burger, I've really thought he would when we saw images of "patties" cooking XD

@TastingHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Episode releases next Tuesday :)

@krankarvolund7771

2 жыл бұрын

@@TastingHistory Oh great :D

@williammunoz744

2 жыл бұрын

Max pulling through haha

@john98765333

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry "How to make everything" Did a roman burger recently as well. lol

@yeoldedude7464

2 жыл бұрын

I hope he will make some "ketchup" sauce, and some sort of handmade mayo. Maybe cranberry/rapsberry sauce instead of ketchup?

I really love how thouroughly max is integrating himself in the historical KZread community

11:11 you can hear him breaking up about the lack of tomatoes

As odd as it may sound, mixing garum and other spices in a burger might end up something like a worcestershire sauce flavor.... I would try it.

@ai6896

2 жыл бұрын

Worcestershire sauce tastes good in venison pattys I'm not sure about beef though

@ericbozenhard2773

2 жыл бұрын

@@ai6896 I use it to flavor meat loaf, and it comes out nice. It would definitely depend on what way you wanted that beef to turn out though. Not for every recipe for sure.

@melody3741

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds fucking amazing.

@StonedWandererAZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@ai6896 My dad puts it in our beef patties every so often and they come out tasting good.

@rorykeegan1895

2 жыл бұрын

@@ai6896 Its great in beef patties, once tried never again omitted ...

THIS is what the internet was invented for. Answering the BIG questions!!!!

@matesafranka6110

2 жыл бұрын

You might say this is a... whopper... of a question

This has nice isekai vibes. Something like "That Time When I Reincarnated in Ancient Rome and Started a Burger Shop". It may be the past, but maybe it still counts as an Isekai, since the past is almost like another world.

@asurveillancecamera3392

2 жыл бұрын

What is isekai?

@222cristobal

2 жыл бұрын

@@asurveillancecamera3392 Going to another world. Its an japanese term.

@juanjuri6127

2 жыл бұрын

Try reading Therma Romae, it might be up your alley

@redoctane13

2 жыл бұрын

@@asurveillancecamera3392 Literally "another world", a person ends up in another world/dimension/reality/time and then shenanigans happen, sometimes tragedy, sometimes comedy, other times both. Sometimes it's by some jerk god, others because of truck-kun, usually it's a one-way trip w/ some magical power/powers as a "lol sorry" apology from w/e being caused you to be there.

@machirim2805

2 жыл бұрын

If this was set in the late Republic/early Imperial era, our protagonist would probably join forces with the Guild of Millers in making true roman hamburgers for true romans

7:19 Damn, even the Romans knew about the carcegenic properties of too much meat.

No wonder Diocletian became a cabbage farmer with all this hype about it

@Deridus

2 жыл бұрын

The origin of the screaming "My Cabbages!" Meme. Ave, Diocletian!

@kazemizu

2 жыл бұрын

"My cabbages!!!!"

@alexandragamingronyno2275

2 жыл бұрын

Ow, my cabbages!!!

Me waiting for the last part of avenging Varus Invicta: HAMBURGERS IN ROME?

@YataTheFifteenth

2 жыл бұрын

Priorities amicus. Priorities.

@renkol123

2 жыл бұрын

GIVE ME BACK MY BURGERS!

Wait...there's a book from Roman times entirely about cabbage? I wonder if Diocletian read it when he started growing cabbages on his farm after retiring as emperor in 305.

@goosenuggets9693

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised.

@Sleepy_Cabbage

2 жыл бұрын

Probably a personal favourite of his

German competition: Teutoburger. "Quintililius Varus, give me back my legumes!" Ps: Blessed are the cheesemakers.

@MrHodoAstartes

2 жыл бұрын

Hum. What might go into a Teutoburger? I guess rye bread, as was the way of the tribes. Berries from the thick and dark forests, stewed into a sauce running red as the blood of three legions. Patties from wild boar meat, fattened with the butter so beloved by these barbarii. Decorated with gold flakes cut from the wings of stolen eagles.

@plt927

2 жыл бұрын

Since Hamburg already existed in Roman times, you could still call it a Hamburger :D

@darthplagueis13

2 жыл бұрын

@@plt927 Well, yes but actually no. The name Hamburg (or back then, "Hammaburg") only started being used in the 8th century. The romans only mentioned a place which may or may not have been located in the same spot as modern day Hamburg. They called it Treva. Thus, the proper name for the meal might arguably be Trevanum.

@donttrustnoone3921

2 жыл бұрын

Blessed too, are the Greeks.

@blythesaunders3124

2 жыл бұрын

Blessed are the meek.

Ah yes, answering questions nobody asked but everybody finds interesting

@MajorJakas

2 жыл бұрын

He saw the channel "How to Make Everything" put out this exact same video earlier this morning so he just ripped it off.

@JohnSmith-nh2te

2 жыл бұрын

@@MajorJakas that doesn’t make any sense. So you’re saying he watched his video, then pumped out this script and art in less than a day?

@MajorJakas

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-nh2te easy when you're just ripping off somebody else. I saw the other video this morning, then went and tore up and replaced an entire kitchen floor in about the same time. Don't even sit there and pretend as though this has a huge production value. ALL of the slides for this video could be made in seconds, especially for experienced creators.

@redrevise4668

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MajorJakas Then we shall praised Invicta for the speed of their uploads.

@earthknight60

2 жыл бұрын

Answering a question we already know the answer to and even have recipes detailing: museumcrush.org/the-1500-year-old-recipe-that-shows-how-romans-invented-the-beef-burger/

"Mustard was so common that a street preacher in a backwater town made reference to it's seeds that we still know today" man that took a minute but then my laughter startled my neighbour

"we invited Max Miller from tasting history for this one" You now have my full and undivided attention. I love it when the history channels that I like are working together. Also, good burger I think

"Bread light enough to float in water"... I don't think I've ever seen a bread that sinks. Even including all those weird artisanal brown bricks with random seeds.

@SonsOfLorgar

2 жыл бұрын

Then you haven't encountered flour spiked with powdered chalk or limestone...

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar Ah yes, the White Cliffs of Dover Burger.

@paulohagan3309

2 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar Just shows you the delicacies we've missed since the introduction of food standards and safety ....

@dynamicworlds1

2 жыл бұрын

Just goes to show you how light and fluffy modern baked goods are that it was something to take note of.

@plt927

2 жыл бұрын

My first baking attempts wouldn't float 😂 German Pumpernickel would also sink

* steps out of time portal into a Roman street * "Boy do I have a business proposition for you!"

@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN

2 жыл бұрын

You mean: “Puerum enim habeo negoti propositionis pro vobis est”

@Maydaypayday7

2 жыл бұрын

@@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN unless it’s 476 Rome

If Invicta has time travel machine, he would be a very successful businessman in history

@Dan_Kanerva

Жыл бұрын

if we could back-travel with the knowledge of today... we would become Gazillionares... which is why i think people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are time travelers

About the patty binding being made with bread crumbs and milk: we still do it like that in Spain, I'm sure other mediterranean countries do it as well. It's not that is not done like that today, it's just that you don't do it like that in the US. Same thing with the bun, we don't toast it in butter, neither oil generally. Rather we tend to like it plainly. Hope that helps

Do Pulled Pork.. As pork was incredibly common in Rome, you wouldn't disrupt the timeline

The grillers guild, True Roman hamburgers for true romans.

One recipe I personally would like to see recreated in a Roman fashion would be Bao or pork buns similar to those in the Pixar Animation of the same name. It's one of my personal favorite recipes and I feel like the Romans would have easily had most if not all of the ingredients necessary for that

In research a few years ago I read about Roman street vendors with a variety of meat cuts from which the customer could choose which would be ground up. Also at this point nuts and other spices could be ground with it. This was made into a patty that would be cooked on a piece of slate with a fire under it. After being cooked, it would be put into a sliced piece of bread and wrapped in paper. I do not have the citation, however.

Seeing max again put a smile on my face. Such a good guy

@TastingHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Awwww, you're makin' me blush.

@PauaP

2 жыл бұрын

Oh shiz fam, max just replied. Sweeeet.

Please tell me Cato’s shop sold something called the Salted Porcius.

@OverseerMoti

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't it Salted Sus? (This is *not* a ref to a "certain game")

@HiHi-lh3ps

2 жыл бұрын

@@OverseerMoti when the imposter is crucified by Tit *sus* for overusing a meme

@l.pietrobon3925

2 жыл бұрын

@@OverseerMoti AMONGST

I am screaming at the "you need eggs to keep a burger together" line. Slaps of someone who has never made a burger in their life.

@AlienFromBeyond

2 жыл бұрын

Same, absolutely horrible and turned me off from the video and channel quickly quite frankly.

@spaceface124

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlienFromBeyond Then unfortunately you missed the note around 10:23 which acknowledges that the Romans themselves didn't use eggs as a binder. They preferred breadcrumbs.

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

2 жыл бұрын

@@spaceface124 you don't need either.

@Trieh

2 жыл бұрын

Y'all burger purists need to touch grass, it ain't that deep.

@user-ze7sj4qy6q

2 жыл бұрын

i was looking for this comment lmfao. i mean i guess u Could put it in, i guess, but "have to" is pretty fucking strong lol

"Burgers," hell! Based on this list of ingredients, I might have had better luck digging a barbecue pit and slowly cooking up some quasi-Texas-style brisket or pork: covered only in salt and pepper, with a vinegar-based dipping sauce at most. I just need to find the right kind of wood . . . and some way to wake myself up WAY early to start smoking!

@cmyk8964

2 жыл бұрын

Garum can be mixed with simmered vegetables and fruit and turned into barbecue sauce!

I know this goes without saying but thank you so much for making these videos about every-day life. It’s a much more interesting topic than the endless discussions about military tactics and politics that most self-proclaimed history buffs engage in

@seronymus

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone should know history well, and it's a shame that the field is stereotyped and relegated to memorizing names and dates primarily of battles. It's far more important, crucial even, to understand cultures of the past in their wholesale, their saints and heroes, how they lived and worshiped and ate and died..sigh.

@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@seronymus Precisely. I don't sit here thinking about politics or wars every day. The thing that concerns me is being able to pay the bills and have fun with my friends and loved ones. I imagine the exact same thing was true of the past. I don't think the average Roman sat around discussing military strategy and the Roman Emperors constantly, he was probably also more concerned with being able to pay his rent and provide for his family.

Mate, I love these videos, about the lives of regular people. And food is such an important part of that! Even speculative videos like this are cool, since it's limited to the ingredients and techniques of the period.

Yes, thoroughly enjoyed it! Very interesting, looking forward to the next post!

Hey, idk where you've heard that but you DO NOT put eggs in burger patties. That's what you put in a meatball. Love your channel btw

@Darryl_Francis

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidenc02 it's a very popular myth amongst food normies, a lot of people taint the patties with egg, breadcrumbs, onion, mustard (yes, I've experienced this), and add the seasonings into the mix before forming the patty - it's madness.

@mrrodgers0

2 жыл бұрын

This is certainly true of a modern burger, but in this case, without refrigeration to help the fat keep its structural integrity during grinding and storage, egg mixed in and the caul fat wrap are probably necessary.

@Trieh

2 жыл бұрын

You know you can put whatever you want in a burger, right?

@conorcarolan6238

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trieh I mean, I'm a professional chef with a formal culinary training and over a decade of experience. You don't put egg in the meat. It changes the texture to that of a meatball. You can put whatever you want in a burger, true. But that doesn't mean you should. Burgers patties are just meat. Ideally, 75-80% lean beef. It doesn't need egg to hold it together. Just a hard sear and it'll be fine on its own. You then put whatever you want ON TOP.

@Trieh

2 жыл бұрын

@@conorcarolan6238 Nice degrees my dude, try mixing it up sometime, have fun with it.

Finally, someone asking THE REAL questions!

It's so strange, I've been watching this channel for years, but I just found Max Miller a couple of weeks ago, and now he's here. I love when KZread sometimes reminds me how small the world can be.

Okay new fav channel found. Love this so much!

The happy Romans eating happy lil Roman cheeseburgers at the end is so wholesome it makes me hapy,

Me: waiting for the video on the conclusion of Germanicus campaigns against arminius **Invicta: Did Roman's have Hamburgers?**

Finally asking the real questions.

Max is back! Woo hoo! You two teaming up is the BEST

Love seeing more Max Miller!

There's a condiment called "mushroom ketchup", which is similar to tomato ketchup, but uses mushrooms in place of tomatoes. They wouldn't have been making it 2000 years ago, but there's no reason they couldn't have, in terms of ingredients and preparation technique, just nobody thought of it.

@dashofsalt4359

2 жыл бұрын

I believe strawberry was used after that, which has been driving me nuts since I found out..

@MrHodoAstartes

2 жыл бұрын

Well, the whole ketchup idea comes from Indonesian soy sauce, so calling it that goes right out the window. But a savory mushroom sauce of some description seems likely to have existed. Maybe like a relish with garum.

@LeoStaley

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't like how he concluded against using mushrooms. There may not have been quality control, but if you sell mushrooms, your life (economically and physically) depends on you being able to discern between types of mushrooms. Furthermore, the Mediterranean is home to fewer dangerous mushroom species than America is, and they tend to be less dangerous.

@redoctane13

2 жыл бұрын

@@dashofsalt4359 o_o

@qdaniele97

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoStaley Moreover, even today the vast majority of mushrooms consumed in europe (and certainly the most prised ones) are naturally grown and hand picked from forests (good luck trying to grow "porcini" in an artificial controlled environiment).

The mayo (aeoli!) can be as simple as whole eggs, oil, salt and vinegar, with some elbow grease. I love a burger with it.

@gerard8203

2 жыл бұрын

Aioli is with garlic too

@jansenart0

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerard8203 Can be. It's a fancy name for mayo with no real distinction (I did the research on it a few years back).

@gerard8203

2 жыл бұрын

@@jansenart0 no offense. It literally means "garlic and oil" in catalan "all" and "oli". Aioli (or Alloli) without garlic is not aioli

@jansenart0

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerard8203 The origin of the word is disputed.

@gerard8203

2 жыл бұрын

@@jansenart0 yes the origin of mayonnaise is disputed. But "aioli" is what it means and that's simply garlic and oil. There's no way to deny that, you just can't

Yesss another collaboration between Invicta and Tasting History, awesome stuff guys!

Now this is an amazing crossover episode. Love both these channels so much.

Just you wait, Invicta is gonna create a fast food chain serving Roman food!

"from a beautiful white loaf to grainy hard tack" My brain: *insert Max hard tack cutaway gag* XD

It's awesome that you collaborated with Max again. Love both your channels 💜

I love the look on Caesar's face on the Caesar's grill sighn. It's as if he's daring you to come in to the grill, with a hint of a grin, cause he knows you will.

"I wonder at those who think about their body's food, but do not think about their soul's food. They keep away disturbing food from their belly, but fill up their hearts with destructive subjects.“ - Hasan ibn Ali

@QuizmasterLaw

2 жыл бұрын

that's unfair. everyone must eat. not everyone even has the chance to think about anything other than that. see 1.

@vertigq5126

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuizmasterLaw But “man cannot love on bread alone.” God gives us purpose in life, if your only purpose was to toil away for food each day, why not just give up and die? Everyone must search their hearts and know the truth: Christ is our salvation, the only way to God our Creator!

@404Dannyboy

2 жыл бұрын

@@vertigq5126 If your only purpose in life is a likely fictive and certainly unproven sky daddy then that is a problem. Life has plenty of meaning without religious faith.

@SonsOfLorgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@vertigq5126 you need a psychiatrist...

@piotrgrzelak2613

2 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar why would he need a fraud specializing in selling drugs

They did had ketchup, it just wasn't tomato ketchup.

@torianholt2752

2 жыл бұрын

True...the original catsup/ketchup was made from mushrooms.

@sarkedev

2 жыл бұрын

Catosup

@MegaTang1234

2 жыл бұрын

Garum?

@SonsOfLorgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@MegaTang1234 no. Go stand in the corner ;)

@NightBlado

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to comment this, good job!

Romans had a sandwitch that we sorta still eat in Italy and other Mediterranean countries to this day Also 4:49 that's the most based and southern-italian-pilled thing I've ever heard: usually northern Italy cuisine is more Celtic and Nordic influenced (hence the local languages like Lombardo, Genovese, Piemontese and so on for each North region are really close to French) thus making them use more butter than the rest of Italy. Below Emilia Romagna olive oil is the main seasoning in most dishes, the more you go to the south (Sicily, Calabria, Puglia) the more oil you will find.

Love the direction this channel is taking

Finding well produced, clever and informative, along with speculative and inquisitive content such as this makes muddling through some of the trite and self-aggrandizing drivel that clutters KZread worthwhile. I already know how to match my lip colour with my well organized DIY bohemian spa bathroom, so finding something that entices thought, engenders hypothesis, and adds to my historical knowledge is just soooo satisfying. Thank you! PS I should have mentioned that in addition to all of the above this channel is also just plain old FUN and darned entertaining!

You'll get the burger but it won't come with ketchup, tomatoes, or a side of Gaelic Fries.

@MrRourk

2 жыл бұрын

But we could have goat cheese

@MrRourk

2 жыл бұрын

Mushrooms we could have those

@rosiehawtrey

2 жыл бұрын

At least no one mentioned "freedom fries" - the person who came up with that little gem is due a dose of rectal implement, hold the olive oil...

@RikoJAmado

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRourk I would love to taste the “Greatest of All Time” cheese! See if it lives up to its claim!

@RikoJAmado

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosiehawtrey I know right? Eh he heh heh.....* quickly searches to delete that exact comment made in previous video about Fast Food in ancient Rome*

This is probably my favourite series on KZread now. I hope it delves deep into other periods and cultures, like knowing how and what all these individuals humans over the history of mankind ate feels like something special.. Kinda a peak into that transcending individual yet collective human experience

I honestly prefer these kind of "how they did it" everyday lives over wars and armies

The next video on making a Roman Pizza ( aside from the ancient focaccia :3 )

I just need to say that the origins of Mayonaise are spanish and not french, specifically its from an island in the Balearics called Mahón (thats where the name comes from)

@solwen

2 жыл бұрын

The name mayonnaise comes from "moyeunnaise" ("moyeu" being the old French word for "egg yolk"). But the ingredients being so common, i'm sure it was, like beer, discovered independently by many people in the world.

I'm really digging these cross over/collaboration episodes. Both you guys and Tasting history did a great job in both your videos. Thanks you both so much for the great content!

I'm here because of Max!!!! Also, great video Invicta :) I thoroughly enjoyed it!

As long as it has normal or flatbread instead of those horrible buns I'm fine. It may even be soaked with garum PS Fun fact: first ketchup and direct ancestor to ketchup (and weshesheshe sauce) was something very similar to garum. With no tomatoes!

@Sk0lzky

2 жыл бұрын

@Fat Freddy's Cat aye that was it I think. Rotten fish and mushroom and vinegran and mushroom varieties, idk which one was first

Is this a collab with HTME, or just a REALLY strange coincidence?

@harrisondimm7384

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing lol

@Callmecel

2 жыл бұрын

Strange coincidence - great minds just think alike sometimes!

@jasepoag8930

2 жыл бұрын

@@Callmecel funny, I thought it was some kind of "let's all make Roman burgers collab" for historical themed channels.

@Callmecel

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasepoag8930 That woulda been neat!

@Raptorclaw62

2 жыл бұрын

It's just burger day today 😎🍔

Cool history idea, cool collaboration!! Please continue as a series guys !

I normally don’t comment on videos, but I’ve really enjoyed the content this channel provides! Educational and intriguing content that helps me prepare for my time travel! Thanks!

Fun fact: In the east of Spain, caul fat is still used to wrap minced meat in local traditional dishes, like the figatell in València

Thank so much ever since I saw a kid in king Arthur's court all I've ever wanted was to go bavk in time and open up the first McCaesar's!

Fantastic video and topic!!

Cool, I had lots of fun watching this. Good job

Strangely close to HTME's Ancient hamburger video released just a few hours ago, weird coincidence.

@Th3Nigma

2 жыл бұрын

Today's lesson is EAT MORE BURGERS. Jk.... unless?

@shorewall

2 жыл бұрын

Invicta is pioneering the ancient fast food craze. :D

@SimuLord

2 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this as I'm eating some McDonald's I had delivered at 3 AM. Let's see the Romans pull THAT one off! ...I wonder if the Internet's influenced my food choices tonight...

10:15 In France it's called crépine, and we make crépinettes with it, that are prettymuch what you did, a flatten sausage, in a veil of coal fat, that you cook. The fat melts, and it's really really good! It can also be used for roasts, pâtés and terrines.

very happy to see Max in this video. i'm a huge fan

Love these collaborations among channels...

"What do you say about making money on banking?" "What do you say about making money on murder?" Bankers. Getting shit for the last 2000 years. XD

@nunoalvarespereira87

2 жыл бұрын

Based

Now *this* actually asks real Questions!

This needs a series

Love seeing videos like these where the animation rises to the level of the fantastic narration. Keep up the good work!

ahh yes, another dose of “a questions i never asked but i want to know their answers”

i love this type of content please make a series of videos like this, would really like to see one about pizza, even if I know it would be a sad no tomato sauce pizza.

Love the cross over this was awesome I hope to see more like this 🤘

I'd like to see you make some Carthaginian salted Pork. Extra Salty pls.

You do not need eggs (or anything but beef and salt) to make a good burger. Source: I make excellent burgers.

@Direxit

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Also grinding meat in a mortar and pestle would destroy the texture, it would be better to cut it fine with a knife like Steak Tartare and then work it by hand a little until it binds.

@TommyGuy1111

2 жыл бұрын

@The Big Kiwi Yeah, that's the point. It stops being tender and becomes chewy. At that point you're not making a burger, you're making sausage.

@anguishedcarpet

2 жыл бұрын

@@Direxit just because some beef ground more than you prefer doing it it at home, it doesn't immediately cease being hamburger lmfao

@e_da_g2161

2 жыл бұрын

actually, only beef salt does something with the proteins and makes the meat less tender

@Darryl_Francis

2 жыл бұрын

Truth!

Yes Max Miller again! I’m here for him!!

As soon as I saw this I thought this be a perfect subject for Tasting History. To think you got Max along.

Lmaooooo I literally got a bunch of ground beef yesterday night, then prepped coals for tonight this morning when I got up before work. I got home and checked my upload feed and you uploaded a burger video great timing but I forgot my Garum xD