I love that a Saiyan “invasion” is just two of them showing up 😂

@night1952

Жыл бұрын

For them sending a baby alone is considered an invasion.

@ericiglesias4313

Жыл бұрын

​@night1952 that's how you know your race is OP

@stephenlaw1910

Жыл бұрын

Anyone of them could conquered a planet, which they have done before, takes 3 days at most

@danielhall1226

Жыл бұрын

Saiyan infants conquer planets. Lol. And those are the low born saiyans

@ktwn6702

Жыл бұрын

think of it this way. 2 of them showing up is equal to 29%-33% of the entire race showing up! (depending on if you count movie Saiyans)

The worst part about all of this: Even if Vegeta was defeated, a certain Emperor would be very intrigued by whatever managed to kill his Saiyan soldiers…

@spooderderg4077

Жыл бұрын

I mean. The avengers would have probably given him a better death than what his lord Frieza did to him. As they say, like a bitch.

@scorchinorphan1687

Жыл бұрын

@@spooderderg4077 With no super sand legend or Kakacarrotcake, Frieza gonna make them have to pee sitting down

@Sleepy_Apocalypse

Жыл бұрын

@@spooderderg4077 Man's went out fighting against a dude who he knew he stood absolutely 0 chance against and was enslaved by for basically his entire life. How is that going out like a bitch? That's like calling some skinny dude who weighs 130 pounds and has the balls to square up with Mike Tyson a bitch when he gets knocked out.

@quishaanmcneal1462

Жыл бұрын

yeah cuz frieza and his army mopping the whole mcu

@Gumbino

11 ай бұрын

Frieza would literally not care lol

Nappa: "Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?!" Vegeta: "It's... 1006, kick his ass, Nappa"

@oni-tenshi8734

15 күн бұрын

I was looking for the DBZA reference

@MrMooagi977

13 күн бұрын

​@@oni-tenshi8734 I had the scouter upside-down

@NarutoUzumaki-hn1iu

8 күн бұрын

​​@@MrMooagi977 "It's over 9000!!!"

@MRJ.Jostar

6 күн бұрын

Fun fact in Japanese version it was 8000

@CHRISBYCREAM897

5 күн бұрын

1 broly would annihilate this planet

It went from "Could the Avengers stop the Saiyans?" To "Could The Avengers Survive The Saiyans?"

@Hijazi44

15 күн бұрын

More like survive Nappa

@hadriandwyer2191

14 күн бұрын

Raditz? Yes. Nappa, maybe, but Vegeta? Nope. No way. Not. A. Chance.

@charlesloftin8768

13 күн бұрын

Might as well narrow it down to either Thor and hulk.

@streptococo4735

12 күн бұрын

​@@charlesloftin8768This version of Hulk and Thor would NEVER. The simple fact that Hulk got OMEGA NERFED becoming a buff Redditor is lame as fuck, he also got beat by Thanos and The Hulk buster, HULK HAS NEVER LOST TO THE HULK BUSTER, you can only contain the Hulk, not beat him. And this version of Thor is probably one of his weakest. Nappa alone could easily beat both.

@TheRealZombieWizard

10 күн бұрын

@@streptococo4735 World-Breaker Hulk could probably take on Nappa with ease by himself.

At first I thought they could hold their own but I forgot how OP early vegeta was…..

@powerjolt7215

Жыл бұрын

Bro literally could erase Earth which is insane and his durability exceeds his raw power.

@ryleeevans6211

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention how ruthless og vegeta was. He prolly killed nappa again too. I wanna see a marvel vs frieza aka frieza army vs thanos army

@IloveStarr

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryleeevans6211yeah ngl, Thanos can only hope the gauntlet wipes out Frieza in the dusting, otherwise Frieza would just 1 shot all of Endgame put together

@ryleeevans6211

Жыл бұрын

@@IloveStarr still i wanna see the ginyu force throw down and maybe get a cool body swap in

@chakrafuji458

Жыл бұрын

The earth is db is 2x bigger than the regular earth in marvel

Anybody else remember how effortlessly Nappa turned a city into a glass floor? Or how at that point they could just destroy planets? The MCU avengers are no where near that. By the time Nappa and Vegeta show up, blowing up the moon isn't a big deal.

@aintiwrong5201

11 ай бұрын

Master roshi who was in his prime had the max power level of 200 and he destroeyd the moon with a kamehameha wave, even if we highball the avengers they have no chance

@JakubRycek-oe8me

11 ай бұрын

@@aintiwrong5201 that was old roshi who had power lvl of 130 hoever as seen with goku (raditz fight) kamehameha can output more than double of your power lvl so roshi might have charged that blast to have power lvl of 300+ but still nappa had power lvl of 4000 and vegeta 18k if sayians showed up on marvel earth that would be one side massacre

@JoshuaOdionson

11 ай бұрын

@aintiwrong5201 When he charged up to his Max/Full power he had a power level of something akin to 1500, I think. But it left him pretty gassed.

@astroman0500

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, but DB and DBZ power scaling has always been MASSIVELY inconsistent and it's hard to compare it to anything else. The moon is something like one third of the size of earth and still it requires absurd amounts of force to blow it up like Piccolo and Master Roshi did in the earlier parts of DB/DBZ. They destroy the moon like it's no problem (and as if the moon can just reform without causing any mass scale imbalances on the planet) and then the big Frieza feat was to destroy Namek, Piccolo's home planet at the peak of his power. And he still had to charge his energy for a while to be able to destroy it. Personally, I don't consider any of the moon busting feats cannon at that stage of the series and only when characters reached Frieza/SS1 Goku levels of power can they be said to actually destroy planets or moons. If they did in the past it was just Toriyama being funny.

@GaldenX

11 ай бұрын

@@astroman0500 You can't just say something's canon just because you don't agree with it lol. There's ton of statements and feats to prove characters could destroy planets before SS1 and Final Form Freiza appeared.

Remember when Ultron built a doomsday trigger to level an entire city? Nappa did that with just two fingers and he is only a fraction as strong as Vegeta, who can obliterate a planet with similar ease.

@allfenom

16 күн бұрын

I was looking for this comment.

@Lumina-sd1en

16 күн бұрын

You do realize by destroying the planet vegeta would die however Thor would survive😂

@Lumina-sd1en

16 күн бұрын

@@KingGoji-m1r3Are you stupid? Saiyans can't breathe in space.

@jador9641

16 күн бұрын

@@Lumina-sd1en Welp, i doubt he would still survive if he's the one who's gonna take on his face like a true porno star the Earth Splitting Galick Gun that will destroy the planet 💀

@sgt.doughnut5918

15 күн бұрын

​@KingGoji-m1r3 vegeta needs air to breathe. But like when he destroyed the bug planet he'd just do it from his pod.

“Radditz would lose…because if he didn’t the video would be over.”

@BlueCrow89

8 сағат бұрын

😂😂😂

Let’s not forget vegetas durability in the sayain saga was crazy. Taking kamehameha from a kaioken x 4 goku and a spirit bomb and still standing.

@lune5289

Жыл бұрын

Yes bby

@Jake-cm9jj

Жыл бұрын

and let's not forget that Thor bodied a pulsar from a neutron star which is far more energy than the Sun puts out and that killed Cooler in his final form.

@KingOfThePiratesOfTheHill

Жыл бұрын

Can we just mention we are putting the peak of the Avengers against a "beginner" level Vegeta

@fkwithfriezaday

Жыл бұрын

vegeta and friezas durability is frightening

@MagillanicaLouM

Жыл бұрын

@@Jake-cm9jj If you mean that forge scene, I wouldn't say he bodied that. He was practically dead after. Impressive he lasted a few seconds but it wasn't a breeze for him at all. And I mean Master Roshi and early Piccolo are out here blowing up moons FROM EARTH, not even going up into space for it, That Thor feat isn't looking as unreachable.

Its incredible because even Raditz who is incredibly weak in the DB-verse would be an actual serious and powerfull threat that could easily wipe out most avengers.

@TyshaggyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Well, he *WAS* a threat in his first appearance.

@johnnymoreno5065

Жыл бұрын

Just most of them tbh. Thor and Hulk and Captain America plus Xmen might give him trouble

@Sesio0

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnymoreno5065cap would be weaker than kid goku

@eyeballtreehouse111

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnnymoreno5065nappa one shotting almost every last X-Men member. Unfortunately. Even Dark Phoenix not walking away from a punch from Nappa

@edenromanov

Жыл бұрын

​@@eyeballtreehouse111yeah only Omega level mutants and above would stand a chance, several Alpha level mutants might be able to bring down Raditz but against Nappa and Vegeta they'd definitely need an Omega at the very least.

The avengers would have trouble against the original red ribbon army.

@eddyram4932

10 күн бұрын

Yamcha would solo the MCU Avengers except for Thor, I do believe Thor has the potential to tank several energy attacks.

@Perthro77

9 күн бұрын

​@@eddyram4932 i believe that the top avengers could destroy the earthlings, if its Dr Strange, hulk, scarlet witch, thor and captain marvel i can see them destroy at least tenshinhan chiaotzu krilin and yamcha... But that would be the end as noone could hope to touch piccolo, as he has some of the strongest ki blasts and the highest recovery of the Z warriors... Also he can become a giant and stretch his arms and with his strenght he could easily stop hulk and thor

@eddyram4932

9 күн бұрын

@@Perthro77 anyone who cannot move faster than light and survive a planet shattering hit will get rushed and die in one punch. So that eliminates most of the avengers, of the people you list maybe Thor and Captain Marvel can survive those, Dr. Strange is only human even with all his magic, he cannot move faster than light so if he doesn’t see the hit coming he cannot react and protect himself, same goes for Scarlet Witch. By the early Dragon Ball episodes people like Krilin, Tien and Yamcha were already moving faster than light since normal people would not see them move at all.

@Lif3OfAMV

Күн бұрын

@@Perthro77brother ur trippin, krillen and tien were in the tournament of power😂 maybe saiyan saga krillen would get wiped, but krillen after being blown up and revived? solo’s the mcu with such ease it’s laughable, yall be sleeping on that mf but bro is easily the strongest human ever, bro could tear hulks arms off and beat his ass with them, same with thanos, even big ass galactic big ass getting pieced up by ToP krillen, dbz power scaling is on a completely different level

@steveweidig5373

6 сағат бұрын

Considering how they trashed the remnants of Hydra in Age of Ultron, I'd say only Blue; Silver, Black and Tao Pai Pai would be any real obstacles. Cap alone would probably mop the floor with the red ribbon mooks like he did with the Hydra mooks in First Avenger.

That was pretty much exactly how I imagined it'd go. Most people don't even realize just how strong DB characters really are.

@Perthro77

9 күн бұрын

I think most people know that. Its just that most times some media inflates the strenght of their characters, so it seems like some shows are at the same level of strenght as DB

@masterroshi1015

3 күн бұрын

And now... after the Tournament of Power, Moro, Granolah, Super Heros?

@kaistemino

10 сағат бұрын

@@masterroshi1015 ??? tf is you on

I really love the idea of someone doing a typical marvel one liner only to immediately lose an arm to nappa. Kinda makes you think about how generous marvel villains can be with not crippling the heroes

@miyahdon7057

Жыл бұрын

true, like if Captain America says "I can do this all day" and Nappa blasts his arm off.

@joshuaware818

Жыл бұрын

Dude it's MCU not Marvel Comics , if it was the Comics Wanda can one shot all of them especially if you pissed her off and their isn't anything they could do about it because they'll be mentally too messed up and physically . And unlike other Alien races saiyans pride typically gets them killed . Bearus or Whis even stated that if the saiyans worked together they'll undoubtedly reach much higher feats but oh well . The Entire Avengers wouldn't be necessary if we're talking about Comic versions since Wanda can kill them .

@chunchunmaru935

Жыл бұрын

​@@joshuaware818if we're talking manga versions Xeno Vegeta wips the floor with wanda💀

@johnman8398

Жыл бұрын

Lol dbz villains act the same way, frieza tried to flex on goku by using one arm and cell once attaining perfection decided to hold a tournament for fun.

@lordaragon901

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuaware818bro brought up comic versions of the avengers as if there’s no manga versions of DBZ characters, Vegeta easily stomps strongest comic versions of all of the powerhouses, that includes Iron God, World Breaker Hulk, Rune King Thor, Darkhold Strange and Darkhold Scarlet Witch, all of whom get decimated by Ultra Ego Vegeta who scales far above universal+, and even if all of them worked together somehow beats UE they’re not getting through Xeno Vegeta 😂

Man, the moment it was hinted they’d struggle with Nappa was when I knew they had next to no chance. Vegeta is an absolute menace even in early DBZ and wouldn’t hesitate the nuke the entire battlefield if it meant getting rid of the “weaklings” not worth his time. Those that remain lack the raw power to keep up

@phloriaernas2149

Жыл бұрын

Not battlefield. Planet. Vegeta wouldn't hesitate to nuke the entire planet if his insecurities appears.

@AMediumSizedKodiak

Жыл бұрын

@@phloriaernas2149ep. He literally tried to and was only stopped by Goku pushing kaioken beyond it’s safe limits and basically disabling himself afterward . MCU avengers ain’t got a Goku level threat lol

@123GOHANZ

Жыл бұрын

@@phloriaernas2149 I say battlefield because as explained in the video Vegeta and Nappa’s objective requires Earth to remain intact otherwise they risk destroying the Infinity Stones. I’m well aware Vegeta can casually destroy planets, especially if we take the anime incarnation of his character. Honestly, I personally think Nappa by himself is enough to take down the Avengers during End Game. Vegeta is just overkill

@drakebell9513

Жыл бұрын

​@@123GOHANZvegeta was willing to destroy earth just because goku hurt his pride

@dodge1515

Жыл бұрын

@@AMediumSizedKodiak This is rarely mentioned, but he also tries the same shit again on Namek against Frieza in their duel, but the Emperior stopped the attack and kicked it into outer space.

Never forget that Roshi blew up the moon in Dragonball before Z even started

@YoueysKitchen

Күн бұрын

Piccolo did

@SakoSaki

Күн бұрын

@@YoueysKitchen He was far above above the power level he needed to be when that happened.

@daswasich1147

19 сағат бұрын

@@YoueysKitchen Piccolo did it in early DBZ to stop Gohan going Apeshit, Roshi had done this once before in DB during the worlds martial Arts Tournament to stop Goku iirc

@YoueysKitchen

19 сағат бұрын

@@daswasich1147 aaaahhhh gotcha

@Figgy20000

6 сағат бұрын

Blowing up the moon is a rite of passage for Z fighters.

Great video!

I think it adds greater perspective in favor of the Saiyans when you consider that Roshi was the first in the series to blow up the moon.

@SkinnyRob

9 ай бұрын

Yeah he completely overlooked that focusing on piccolo and Goku's destruction of the Moon. Dragon Ball Z started off with the roster pretty much at planetary levels. It's actually comical how ridiculously overpowered the cast of that show is in comparison to typical media

@dimensionvisitor7689

7 ай бұрын

@@SkinnyRob basically the 2nd arc, DB are already dealing with moon busters (hell, roshi blowing up the moon can actually be calculated to be planet to large planet level due to how fast and how thorough the destruction is), this kinda outscales most of the series until they hit their late game

@MikaeruDaiTenshi

6 ай бұрын

​@@SkinnyRobThe main problem is, power level/scaling doesn't make any sense in DB. First, let's think about how Krillin and Roshi (Jackie Chun) had a fight so fast, nobody saw it happen and they had to reenact it. Now, this could also have just been a joke to amuse the audiance. However, we also had Goku steal Roshi's sunglasses during Tien's Solar Flare, which we could argue is a light-technique, and therefore, being able to move over to Roshi, steal the glasses, putting them on himself (and I think even returning to his original place) could be considered FTL-combat speed. Now, to the power scaling itself? (Not going to include the DBZ-Movies, as these are not really canon and don't fit in the timeline either) These data should be according to offical sources provided by Toriyama himself: Roshi in his youth: 25 Before Korin Training: 30 After Korin Training: 60 Roshi Prime: 75 Meeting Goku: 50 (also true for 21 Tenkaichi as Jackie Chun) Roshi MAX Power (when he get's all buff): 80 (also true for 21 Tenkaichi as Jackie Chun) Roshi MAX Power Kamehameha: 180 (also true for 21 Tenkaichi as Jackie Chun) Red Ribbon Army Saga: 69 RRAS Max Power: 110 RRAS Max Power Kamehameha: 135 (why weaker as before? Who knows) As Jackie Chun 22. Teknaichi: 139 (he actually trained for that I think) Jackie Chun 22T "serious": 180 Jackie Chun 22T Kamehameha: 220 Roshi "serious" vs King Piccolo: 180 Saiyan Saga: 139 Cell Saga: 690+ Buu Saga: 960 Battle of the Gods: 1.300 Revival of F: 1.350 Tournament of Power: 42.500.000 ToP "serious: 55.000.000 ToP MAX Power: 69.000.000 ToP MAX Power Kamehameha: 139.000.000 ToP Beyond Limits (Kamehameha): 169.000.000 Especially the jump from the start of DBS to the Tournament of Power makes simply no sense, and if he could actually gain so much power in a short time, he should have trained with Korin after learning of King Piccolo coming back and he would have wiped the floor with him.

@QuigleTheGnome

6 ай бұрын

@@MikaeruDaiTenshi​​⁠​⁠yeah it never made sense why he was able to keep up even in Revival of F because as far as we know he hasn’t done any training since DB

@MikaeruDaiTenshi

6 ай бұрын

@@QuigleTheGnome Yea, why I prefer DB and DBZ over Super. DBZ already had insane progression and the power levels never really meant anything after Goku became SSJ, maybe even before that. But the later Z and all in Super makes no sense Powerwise.

I feel like there biggest problem with the Saiyans is that their abilities are super versatile. The avengers can do one or two things really well, but every Saiyan basically has a similar power set to captain marvel, but with the ability to train that power to increase.

@monkeykingss4luffy786

Жыл бұрын

That a fact they actually have a lot of different powers if u put into perspective they can literally do anything shit even goku has telekinesis

@absolstoryoffiction6615

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeykingss4luffy786 I haven't seen Goku or other Saiyans do anything 5th dimensional or greater. Unlike their omnipotent one, the Saiyans are just very strong people who can adapt and grow stronger... If Freeza didn't wipe them out. Punching reality and shattering the multiverse isn't that impressive from my perspective. But infinite other characters from fiction can do this already. More so in Marvel Comics...

@absolstoryoffiction6615

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeykingss4luffy786 Except Immortality... Goku can still die and it's not like he can defy death when the afterlife isn't necessarily trying to stop him. He just cannot die and return from the spirit realm too often. Otherwise, that would bring his acts of resurrection into question, outside of a wish from the Dragon Balls.

@codem5285

Жыл бұрын

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 its not about comics, if u add that up then we can add Xeno Goku lmfao

@absolstoryoffiction6615

Жыл бұрын

@@codem5285 Is Xeno Goku cannon to the main continuity of Dragon Ball Z? Again... Reality Punching characters are not unique in Marvel Comics. In terms of the shows... I mean the anime, not the manga... And the MCU has always been weaker in comparison to the comics. (Xeno Goku is an alternate timeline of Base Goku, who is nigh omnipotent in power as a fighter, given his battles. DBz Goku (continuity Goku) on the other hand, is not close to Xeno Goku by a long shot.)

We wouldn't even be able to blink before nappa kills them all.

Great idea!

i find it mildly amusing to imagine vegeta just chilling in the background waiting to see if nappa can take out a team of like 40 superheroes (the avengers) and if nappa gets overwhelmed and somehow killled,vegeta just points 2 fingers and blows up the planet with little effort

@happyfatherof5164

Ай бұрын

Scarlet Witch deletes Vegeta from existence

@Hmoney42069

Ай бұрын

@@happyfatherof5164 in infinity war? Hell nah

@Dipj01

Ай бұрын

What fingers? [post infinity war]

@tttttttttttttttp12

Ай бұрын

​@@Dipj01 Vegeta: GALICK GUN!

@samuelflipaclip7415

29 күн бұрын

@@happyfatherof5164if she could do that why couldnt she do that to the mid avengers in the alternate universe

I would love if somebody animated this. It would be so tragic. After all the death and sacrifices it would take to put Nappa down, Vegeta would just casually walk towards them, congratulate them before destroying the planet.

@YungFrenchToasty

Жыл бұрын

Death Battle did Thor vs Vegeta.

@mr.mikeabil6247

Жыл бұрын

​@@YungFrenchToastythat comic Thor not that movie thor

@gamergod3798

Жыл бұрын

They can't take nappa down

@stephinshepard5067

Жыл бұрын

Nappa alone would probably take most them out

@johnnymoreno5065

Жыл бұрын

​@@stephinshepard5067idk about Hulk cuz he's powerful in the comics

This is a cool video , I want more lol

Vegeta: "Whole civilisations once trembled at the sound of my name!"

I don’t think they’d be able to put down Vegeta either. Keep in mind he also tanked Goku’s Kamehameha which was many times stronger than a planet busting attack. He can take one hell of a beating

@alanbrown901

11 ай бұрын

Vegeta just needs to lift a finger at this point

@Federal_Bureau_of_Investigatio

11 ай бұрын

@@alanbrown901Thor outclasses vegeta tho

@LightningThief-ck9ml

11 ай бұрын

​@@Federal_Bureau_of_Investigatiomcu Thor doesnt

@fiddlesticks7245

11 ай бұрын

@@Federal_Bureau_of_Investigatio Insane person statement. Pause your mouth, gang

@bullettime1116

11 ай бұрын

​@@Federal_Bureau_of_Investigatiomcu Thor gets bitched by yamcha, cmon now

You forgot to mention one thing: nappa's techniques. Nappa had a technique that only requires lifting two of his fingers and he can wipe out an entire city and turn it to wasteland. That technique alone can wipe out most wakandan warriors and most human heroes (except for vibranium armor wearing heroes like black panther and Iron man, but they will emerge heavily injured). Nappa also got a mouth blast technique that can caught some heroes off guard and completely kill them (your choice to which heroes he can do this to). And by the time the heroes have dispatched nappa, most of them were already dead or rendered unable to fight due to too much injuries. Only some powerhouses like captain marvel, wanda, strange, thor, etc. will be left on the battlefield. Even if strange makes a barrier to protect them, vegeta is more than strong enough to destroy and bypass their defenses. If somehow the remaining heroes got the best of vegeta, vegeta can always resort on the galick gun, which is strong enough to destroy the earth. And non of the heroes, even captain marvel and thor, have enough power to beam clash the galick gun and they'll easily lose. The only scenario I can see the avengers winning is when Strange resorts to using the time stone and make better strategies.

@RustedBuddy5192

Жыл бұрын

Okay but Thors hammer though and the worthiness enchantment. Then again Hela was able to shatter it so its likely Nappa could too.

@PurpleHeartE54

Жыл бұрын

​​@@RustedBuddy5192 Mjölnir was broken by Hela and only retrieved via Time Travel. Love & Thunder restored it, that's true, but that's way after Endgame.

@Mach_the_Man

Жыл бұрын

The Saiyan's already won, chill out bro....

@mauricesimpkinsii4683

Жыл бұрын

Black panthers suit nor iron mans is surviving a nuke….period. Black panther was hurt when he was hit by a grenade launcher and a rhino….a nuke is gonna shred that suit. And iron man has tanked middles before…but none that strong..

@MonochromaticPrism

Жыл бұрын

The power scaling, particularly in regard to speed, is very very wrong in this video. The avengers cap out at low tier superhuman, aka building to city block buster. They don't have the offensive power to harm Dragonball Z episode 1 Krillin outside of magic, much less Nappa.

4:00 the amount of heat generated and the busting of sound barriers as well as the speed if light itself being surpassed, the generation of winds, within earths atmosphere, would be more devastating than just letting thanos snap the damn gauntlet. There is a reason planes have a max speed, expecially commercial planes. so you have to cap heroes speed and other to certain points(depending on scenario) for not the movies but for realistic sense that we can feel amazed yet still relate and understand as an average audience member.

4:55 False that was directly after piccolo and Goku had their ass handed to them by Raditz, even if you bring up that he was charged up with ki.. Raditz OBVIOUSLY has ki attacks too.. and beyond that, Roshi busted a moon in the same way, back in OG dragon ball.

Vegeta at this arc is just too damn cold, he'd kill them all without a second thought. He isn't like Thanos where he toyed and entertained them. He'd blow the planet up just because. Also factoring in he still works for Freeza at this point. IF they managed to win over the Saiyans, they wouldn't win against THIS purple alien.

@danello9091

Жыл бұрын

Vegeta literally let Nappa toy with the Earthlings in the saiyan saga for shits and giggles when he could've just killed them all on the spot, spending Saibamen they didn't need to spend when Nappa solo-ed them all without much struggle, he also graced them with time until Goku arrived to the scene to fight him himself, he's evil but also very very prideful during this saga, ruthless yes, but he does play with his food if he doesn't feel seriously threatened.

@ShadowBeetle

Жыл бұрын

@@danello9091 I have no insight on Vegeta´s ideas on magic, but i think he would panic at what Strange and Scarlet Witch can do and take fastest option. IIRC he made Gohan transform into an ape for shits and giggles (and also to torture Goku a bit) cause he felt confident after wiping the floor with the rest of the Fighters Z, its a tricky scenario...

@lightningrain3114

Жыл бұрын

​@@ShadowBeetlebruh, the witch and strange cannot get their powers off fast enough. They would lose to raditz

@OmniDan26

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowBeetle weird dbz downplay.

@CDofn

Жыл бұрын

Saibamen are probably tappin tf out of a lot of a heroes

I like when we get reminded that, way before OP stuff like super saiyans, androids and Cell were introduced, the Saiyans from the same name saga were excedingly powerful, even Raditz. Remember, a Eartling farmer (and farmers are not the weakest people around, they would kick my ass) is only a 5. 5! And Raditz the «weak» is 1200.

@umbralowl

11 ай бұрын

Yeah tbh most people have a power level of like 3 to 7 at best, maybe 7 for martial artists(regular ones, like mike tyson, not dragon ball martial artists like goku, Thor might have a power level of a couple hundred but he's also probably one of the Avenger's heavy hitters

@tahabaalbaki4253

11 ай бұрын

A farmer with a shotgun no less

@thereynaldosan7695

11 ай бұрын

@@umbralowl i read that 30 is the limit of normal humans with convetional training, i remember brunce lee on the original DB series was 30 and kid goku beat him with one punch

@AdrianMartinez-qy2ds

11 ай бұрын

​@@thereynaldosan7695We don't have confirmation as to how high normal humans get without ki training. But it's very likely that it's very low, considering that Daizenshuu 7 put Kid Goku who could lift cars and tank bullets at a measly 10 units

@thereynaldosan7695

11 ай бұрын

@@AdrianMartinez-qy2ds My uncle do it all the time so I think 10 power is right for that

Only issue too! If you don’t kill them it’s not like other villains they actually come back 2x stronger! After a hard battle & you can’t use the same tricks on them!

Moon busting in Dragonball start at around 100, approximately what Master Roshi was in the first World Martial Arts Tournament when he destroys it for the first time

I find it weird how dodging lasers is considered faster than light... The way I see it, they're not necessarily outpacing the laser itself, but simply dodging out of the way of where the laser is being aimed quickly enough that the shooter is unable to react in time to adjust his aim

@arx3516

7 ай бұрын

Yup. You simply need to have reflexes quicker than the shooter. This is how pilots in Gundam dodge beams.

@TheKAYLEN101

6 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing

@Greyman-Gaming

6 ай бұрын

Yea I agree, because then if someone got out of the way quickly enough from a car that’s going 60mph, you wouldn’t say that person was moving as fast as the car.

@Maddenlegend4ever

6 ай бұрын

you are all wrong because if I am aiming a light speed weapon directly at you and you react to the light speed beam and avoid it before it hits you, you are effectively reacting at faster than light speeds to the beam.

@krowft

6 ай бұрын

@@Maddenlegend4ever but I'm not reacting to the beam, I'm reacting to you before you pull the trigger

Let's not forget that Nappa also had his tail when he came to Earth, if he really wanted to, we could just transform when he's backed into a corner

@timevalentime1806

Жыл бұрын

Although I think Nappa would win, he wouldn't be able to transform without a moon in view. Vegeta probably wouldn't help him transform either.

@basimali619

Жыл бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@timevalentime1806I think he also has the ability to create a moon

@KarmaAnims

Жыл бұрын

@@timevalentime1806 I just assume that Nappa knew how to do it since he was always with Vegeta, Nappa probably just couldn't do it because Goku's strength caught him off guard

@Julio_Cezar1604

Жыл бұрын

@@timevalentime1806 there was no moon destroyed by piccolo in this scenario, so the moon is intact

@timevalentime1806

Жыл бұрын

@Julio_Cezar1604 the moon would still have to be in view. If it's not in the sky at the time of the attack it wouldn't be a factor.

You buffed Avengers here 😅. Anyone knowing little science and having common sense can see that Avengers are extremely buffed. For ex- capt. Marvel isn't MTFL since Titan from where they have started there journey isn't 1000 light years away from earth 😑. It isn't even a 1 light year away. Another example Dr. Strange didn't survive power stones blast he sent it to mirror dimension. Iron also survive power stone because he used a shield he didn't took it himself. Seriously Napa (sorry for spelling if it's wrong) can erase most Avengers with flick of his fingers (do you really think wakandian army or capt.america or winter soldier could survive his ki blast). Finally how u think iron man can defeat raditz is he going to stab him with a blade or axe ? Even though video is accurate avengers are seriously buffed here 😑.

@usof75756

9 күн бұрын

Are you thinking of the moon called Titan? Because Thanos is from a planet called Titan not the moon. The closest star to us is 4.25 light-years away. That means Captain Marvel can travel over 2 light-years per day. A little bit of math shows that she's roughly 700x the speed of light at a minimum if Titan were orbiting proxima centauri.

uh no, not even close, not even a glimpse of hope for Earth or the Avengers

I'm a Marvel fan too, but before that I'm a huge Dragon Ball fanatic first. And I remember this one scene from DBZ I think showing King Vegeta casually waving his hand in order to destroy maybe a couple of small planets, if I remember it correctly. I mean, that alone shows how big the gap is regarding their power levels. Before Wanda can even wave her fingers, a base Vegeta IV would have already blitzed her to her demise.

@mohamedkhider6998

7 ай бұрын

That was a filler But still it's accurate considering how Picolo destroyed the moon effortlessly

@KingT1._

6 ай бұрын

@@mohamedkhider6998it’s filler but the feats are canon

@Sorcererzz

6 ай бұрын

Mcu*

@terrorazeing

6 ай бұрын

@@Sorcererzz *Marvel Even as a kid, I've always been drawn more into Spider-Man and the X-Men in general way before MCU happened (or even Raimi's Spidey trilogy & Singer's X-Men trilogy happened). So no, I'm not just a "movie fan."

@Sorcererzz

6 ай бұрын

@terrorazeing those are movies? So yes you are. The comics have better stories and the characters are way more versatile with their powers

If you watched the saiyan saga, then you would know how dangerous Vegeta was. He could erase the planet. It took Goku and others everything they had. He tanked large amounts of damage like the Kaioken powered Kamehameha and Spirit Bomb. The Stamina and durability he had was insane.

@gogeta4341

Жыл бұрын

Yes when I was 6 and I watched the show I had the tense within me when I watched the show

@StevenJones851

Жыл бұрын

​@@gogeta4341Vegeta was pretty powerful in the Saiyan Saga

@akainuthegoat6312

Жыл бұрын

Vegeta ain't beating no fucking scarlet witch nor ms marvel. The hulk would reck him

@PredsjednikGustavo._

Жыл бұрын

​@@akainuthegoat6312not MCU versions

@epicvegeta8717

Жыл бұрын

@@akainuthegoat6312 Scarlet may have magic and Ms marvel has huge strength and energy and hulk has brute strength but Vegeta is not a joke. He has strength, precision, speed and intelligence. Not to mention insane stamina and durability. The three of them may be really strong but inevitably they wont be able to beat Vegeta.

I love how he just came out and said Vegeta no end the video

This matchup was more inevitable than Thanos was.

Imagine you gather all the avengers through the portals, tens of dozens to maybe even hundreds of people show up to fight this (it'd be more here since half the universe wouldn't be wiped), and the weaker enemy raises 2 fingers, killing all but 5 or so people there.

@sumanoskae

Жыл бұрын

That sounds fucking boring.

@cheesesteakphilly

Жыл бұрын

LOL exactly. Why is this even a question? I don’t need to spend 9 mins watching this. Yamcha and Krillin could destroy the MCU Avengers themselves. Look at Ragnarok. A drunk Valkyrie was able to subdue the God of Thunder with a taser. And she was able to treat The Hulk like a dog by making him play fetch.

@sumanoskae

Жыл бұрын

@cheesesteakphilly And Goku got shot down by some scrub in Resurrection F. Neither of these universes are remotely consistent when it comes to power scaling.

@onlytgfe7157

Жыл бұрын

@@sumanoskaeYet that scrub would easily beat anybody in the mcu.

@shirogami4224

Жыл бұрын

​@@sumanoskae I think it's more about ki. Their base defence is although super human not that durable but with their ki they can stack defence even tho it can be the same body stacking something like god ki can handle more damage as long as he got ki barrier and ki are pretty versatile, it can stab or cut people clean like a sword or blind them. But still Goku taking damage when not on guard is BS.

Even Krillen would wipe the floor with them. 😂

@bwelch

6 ай бұрын

Yamcha ?? 😂😂

@theprodigaltrue

6 ай бұрын

Krillen is strong you gotta say master roshi instead

@imverygerby

6 ай бұрын

Nah I think pre married krillin loses to black widow

@fus3rcillo

6 ай бұрын

​@@imverygerbyBut after losing he would probably marry her

@JKMlive

6 ай бұрын

​@@imverygerby thats major cap 🧢, dragon ball krillin was bullet proof, and could move faster than the eye could see. Black widow getting blitzed

Easily, Thor can take both on his own.

I see the Avengers stopping at Nappa and possibly even defeating Nappa. Hulk, Thor and Dr. Strange have the best survival chances. Being live action Avengers though they're not even close to their comic counterparts.

I don’t really agree with the speed scaling. You really shouldn’t use travel speed to compare to combat speed. Thanos capturing captain marvel can either be an inconsistency or her just not being able to reach full speed. Due to the way quicksilver died and how others compared to him, we know MCU characters don’t really scale that far past mach speeds for combat/reaction time. And this is consistent with the rest of the verse for the most part. Based on this, Raditz even if he’s not at planet busting would just blitz everyone else.

@WaveForceful

11 ай бұрын

Raditz has proven super liminal combat speed feats when he dodged piccolo’s special beam canon.

@TheReaIVaIkyrie

10 ай бұрын

@@WaveForceful Yeah DB characters are pretty damn quick. Unfortunately I just don’t really understand how you can actually scale MCU characters past mach. Quickersilver being mach speeds in the MCU isn’t just some minor one off outlier, it’s a big deal considering he died to bullets. MCU characters are pretty slow for the most part.

@andrewperkins7973

10 ай бұрын

Also Roshi blew up the moon at a power level of like 150 ish in the 21st world tournament so that auto puts him at moon level

@ZionsDenn

6 ай бұрын

Planet vegeta was noted to had 10x the gravity of earth which is already putting the Saiyans at a huge speed advantage. Makes sense as to why they can fly as well.

@VGEmblem

13 күн бұрын

As a DB fan, I'm not actually sure the characters are FTL? Ackshually, FTL travel first of all leads to time paradoxes... I think of it as the characters move at very close fractions to the speed of light, maybe being that fast eventually? Hmm. Like at least super saiyan. Hit seems like the only character possibly ftl or when they get there. Anyone with guide info or something would be appreciated, but even then those can be a bit inconsistent

Against MCU avengers I really think Raditz can probably take out Iron Man and Strange though Strange could end it early with the right timing with his ability to create portals (Those things were never used to their fullest combat wise). Honestly the MCU does make scaling a bit difficult since one moment Thor is taking the concentrated heat and radiation of a neutron star to the back than the next he’s actually feeling a punch from anyone. But I e never seen the MCU characters casually unleash city busting attacks the way Nappa or Vegeta can.

@Jake-cm9jj

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for someone acknowledging that Thor took a neutron star pulsar lol. Pulsars are trillions of times more energy output than the sun puts and the sun killed Cooler when he was pushed into it. Cooler is Freiza final form level, so pretty sure Thor could tank anything Vegeta throws at him. Also Thor and captain marvel casually destroyed city sized space ships, Thor during Avengers 1 blanketed the portal with lightning destroying a wave of Chautari ships, and that was way before he was Stormbreaker Thor. Just because they haven't tried to destroy a city, cuz they are heroes, doesn't mean they couldn't if they wanted to.

@bobbob-up5ri

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jake-cm9jjwhat makes you think it's a pulsar it's probably a red giant if anything.

@Jake-cm9jj

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbob-up5ri A red giant would have been WAAY bigger than that. They are solar system sized. I think it is a pulsar because we actually see the size of the star, and it is exactly roughly what a neutron star would be. Also pulsars are beams of energy projected from the star JUST like what we see in the movie....It all lines up.

@bobbob-up5ri

Жыл бұрын

@@Jake-cm9jj fair point I see what you mean with the size however I always assumed it was the mechanism in place that was creating the beam. However In regards to Thor I tanking that blast I think it's more of a showcase of his ability to tank high heat purely for the fact that hulk who I doubt has the same energy output as a pulsar was able to harm Thor.

@thetemplelaboratory

Жыл бұрын

Doctor Strange made Loki fall for over a half hour. If that was implemented in battle it could be quite useful. I mean against someone in the MCU, Raditz Nappa and Vegeta can fly of course.

Vegeta "Go easy on em" Nappa casual levels a city by raising two fingers

This was really fun to watch and I think you got it nailed spot on. The comics said captain america has the strength of 100 men and we saw in DB the power level of a farmer was 5. Farmers arent no sissy so its safe to say that DB farmer was a tough country boy farmer and his power was only 5. So that would give Cap a power level of 500? Raditz could probably take him imo. But this was fun! Good video! ❤

Here is the thing: since the Avengers can't know about Saiyan biology they wouldn't only have to face one Great Ape, but two (because they wouldn't have destroyed the Moon)!

Something that alot of people miss, including Vegeta himself sometimes, is that the big V was our first planet-killer and beat Goku in a fair fight. Yeah, he didn't like that Goku grew alot stronger, later, but he did actually win, the first time.

@thefool7353

11 ай бұрын

>Beat Goku in a fair fight >Fair fight Vegeta was fighting Goku, Gohan, Krillin and Yajirobi at the same time. 4 on 1 isn't exactly what I would call fair. 1v1 Vegeta easily poops on Goku in that fight.

@FalloutJack

11 ай бұрын

@@thefool7353 Okay, four-on-one isn't a straight-up fair fight. Vegeta was mainly struck down by a few X-factors, like sneak-attacks by Yajirobi and having to deal with Oozaru Gohan. Everything else - from Kaioken to Spirit Bomb - Vegeta completely tanked. But yes, Vegeta shouldn't feel as bad as he does sometimes about Goku's strength. He beat Goku within an inch of his life, and Saiyans bounce back Had he thought about it for a second, he would've realized that Goku obviously wanted strength badly enough to train up to the level he next saw him in. And frankly, if he really believed in his own elite status that much, then he shouldn't have worried, because he knew that he'd get that high, as well.

@atomic747

11 ай бұрын

@@thefool7353 well vegeta wasn't fighting all 4 of them until he turn into a giant gorilla. Goku was holding his own against vegeta until he transform.

@rllydude3600

11 ай бұрын

the big V

@FalloutJack

11 ай бұрын

@@rllydude3600 When a short-but-impressively-powerful guy that can benchpress a continent comes your way, you'd better be stronger or be prepared to curb the short jokes.

If the saiyans were blindfolded, had all their ki drained, and were paralyzed from the waist down; then they might have a slight chance.

Goku would tell krillin to handle his light weight 😂😂

This actually lined up perfectly with what I thought when I read the title. They could handle Raditz. MAYBE Nappa if they really brought their A game, but there would be two or three casualties at least, and then the second Vegeta stepped up, they'd be finished. And that's even if you did them a solid and gave them time to recover from their injuries and somehow bring back the ones that died fighting Nappa.

@CalebScott1991

Жыл бұрын

They stand 0 chance against Raditz imo, They aren't even able to see him with how fast he moves, and 1 punch explodes even Thor.

@alyrics6584

Жыл бұрын

​@@CalebScott1991that's too much

@REDACTED887

Жыл бұрын

​@CalebScott1991 that's what I'm saying he highballed TF out of the avengers. Ironman metal getting obliterated and caps just a super human and hulk ain't strong enough u gotta pray doc or Wanda can send his ass to another dimension before he attacks.

@devildolphin2102

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the Saibaman

@REDACTED887

Жыл бұрын

@@alyrics6584 Thor comics you right but mcu nah he getting smoked

Raditz would be a planetary threat and he would kill/incapacitate most of the MCU heroes. Nappa would steamroll everyone (too fast, too strong, too durable). Vegeta is not needed, he would just watch as Nappa decimates the heroes and the planet.

@WaveForceful

11 ай бұрын

Yeah Nappa alone would be like trying to fight 10 Thanos’ with the infinity gauntlet.

@primisoda1400

10 ай бұрын

nappa soloed like 4 multi planetary fighters low diff vegeta in great ape form is 45x stronger than that

@fwdooms2540

10 ай бұрын

Raditz definitely dies but he might get some kills under his belt. Considering he is going in alone and will likely get jumped while also being no stronger than a saibaman.

@primisoda1400

10 ай бұрын

@@fwdooms2540 using power levels, hes around 10x moon level or planetary

@jimjamjon2285

8 ай бұрын

@@primisoda1400 which multi planetary characters did nappa solo 😂?

I feel like even Raditz would have a good chance at defeating most of them

Remember, Master Roshi destroyed the moon at a powerlevel of hardly 200, maybe closer to 500-600 considering he knew how to condense his ki. Raditz would definitely be large planet level at 1,600.

I do like how he made it a point to use the MCU versions of the avengers and not just a mesh of the MCU and comics. The MCU versions of the characters seem a bit less godly and would actually be the underdogs in this fight. As for the comic versions of the avengers, thats a completely different story IMO....

@atshabal

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@odd02

Жыл бұрын

Comic book version would most likely stomp

@Tsutsu5

Жыл бұрын

@@odd02yea they’d clap raditz and base vegeta ofc, but what be way difficult is saiyan + vegeta in all the forms he’s achieved now including ultra ego. This alone could clap all the avengers at will as ultra ego is a different spectrum of power that the avengers don’t have, even world breaker hulk which would be their best shot would not stand a chance

@Hexis17

Жыл бұрын

Theirs no point in going down that thought process because, this is the weakest version of all the DBZ characters, and if you know anything about even BASE DBZ then you know its over.

@dylanmcfee3268

Жыл бұрын

Take it with a grain salt, but Death Battle did a match up between Vegeta and Thor and it was said that Thor would win. Most of the avengers wouldn't stand a chance against most saiyans, but Thor honestly would slap most if not all of them in a 1v1. Thor is busted af.

I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed that Piccolo was only in the 400’s when he blew up the moon (large planet feat). I think pre-Z Goku is also confirmed planet busting capability. And of course Roshi blew up the moon leaving no trace at the end of his fight with Goku in the 1st tournament, and that was a fatigued Roshi doing a quick blast, little charge up, no muscle form. A power level of less than 150. Raditz is 10x Roshi and 3-4x Piccolo’s power. And the power levels of early dragon ball are logarithmic. Kami at 300 is many times stronger than just 2x Roshi. So Raditz is comfortably large planet level.

@RustyShackleford420

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget that it only took Roshi's Kamehameha a few seconds to hit the moon making it near light speed.

@hollow3450

Жыл бұрын

​@@RustyShackleford420 Don't forget that Roshi was worn out after a long fight with goku at that point so he was no were near his full power

@RustyShackleford420

Жыл бұрын

@@hollow3450 yeah I'm pretty sure he says something about putting all he had left in that attack but I could be wrong or it's a dubbism

@gamerthings2559

Жыл бұрын

Either way, OG Dragon Ball, let alone early Dragon Ball Z, is broken. (Late DBZ, in the Buu Saga, is CRAZY power levels.)

@ssj4ssbgogeta957

Жыл бұрын

His power level was in the 300s since he did it in his weighted clothing.

It's great that you used the MCU versions of these characters. It's the only way to have interesting fights.

You know I really appreciate that you didn't do some absurd mental gymnastics to point out how the avengers could've won. DBZ is just on another scale entirely when it comes to what its characters could do.

I think one thing is Mis-represented here. While the avengers could tank some high level attacks. Are they able to dish them out? While they could possibly keep up with raditz , beating him is another story since he can tank shots much harder than the Avengers could likely dish out “Edit”: Here’s some more proof to back my argument , Raditz was stated to be faster than the speed of light by Piccolo. Iron Man & Dr. Strange are not light speed characters. Raditz could have them dead before even they know what had hit them.

@powerjolt7215

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much this. Using Vegeta as an example, a times 4 kaioken Kamehameha didn't straight up erase hin and take into account that kaioken enhances Gokus battle power, but the Kamehameha also does

@CerealExperimentsMizuki

Жыл бұрын

Nah they have AP feats that scale higher than their durability and just like every other verse in fiction, their durability is also scaled to their powers, if they can take planet level hits from a being that is durable enough to take planets exploding in his face then they end up damaging and injuring him, that's planet level ap.

@marcolopes9848

Жыл бұрын

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki not sure where you get the durability being scaled to their power from… Iron man took damage from the power stone which can wipe a planet out. But iron man hasn’t proven any planet busting feats… Thanos alone can’t bust a planet. He is strong yes but without the stones he isn’t planet busting in power. We are talking about the MCU here by the way… When iron man made thanos bleed , the gauntlet was disabled by iron man’s thing he put on thanos’s hand to prevent him from using the stones. So at max , Iron man damaged a very strong person. Definitely not planet busting since again , the stones were inactive.

@normanderi

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, receiving a hit and doing the hitting are two different skills.

@powerjolt7215

Жыл бұрын

@normanderi And Dragonball characters have consistently shown that they can take more than they give. Again a battered and bruised Vegeta using his last energy took an attack that was a lot stronger than himself. Nearly double his power if not more than

This sounds so much better than anything from Marvel in almost half a decade.

@IWENTTOCOLLEGE

10 ай бұрын

With the exception of gotg 3 and no way home

@NagatoOPRESSORTHUGLIFE

10 ай бұрын

From MCU*

@Sorcererzz

6 ай бұрын

When's dragon balls next live action? I heard the first one was great

There is potentially a way the Avengers could win that fight: Strange using the same tactic as he did against Dorumammu. Basically, he creates a save just before the battle and let the Sayians kill them over and over again until they tire out and get too hungry to fight properly anymore. As this could also reverse a planet-busting event that also wouldn't solve the problem for the Sayians, now trapped in Strange's time loop until they retreat or die. In fact, I wondered why Strange didn't use this trick against Thanos. Maybe he foresaw that Thanos has a way to counter this in one of the possible futures he looked at...

Short Answer: No Long Answer: Absolutely Not

I would love to watch Nappa beat Captain Marvel down.

@christopherbravo1813

18 күн бұрын

Me too, buddy. Me too.

@philippecomics4727

12 күн бұрын

Spopovitch vs captain marvel would be 🔥

@christopherbravo1813

11 күн бұрын

@@philippecomics4727 or it'd just lead to her getting the girlboss haircut.

@iguran6035

9 күн бұрын

Tfs nappa specifically "Aww but vegta i want you to watch me trigger twitter"

@MilesPrower-wy6lt

3 күн бұрын

I put Marvel around ssj3 Gotenks level in latest movie. Saiyans wouldn't stop her. And i put Thor around Super Perfect Cell. But thor is MUCH slower then the saiyans even in saiyan saga. Same with marvel. At least in combat speed, travel speed aint same. But its just my opinion.

I feel like raddiz would body them all tbh, liniar travelling speed is different to combat speed. He'd be snap vanishing around and snapping necks like it was nothing only stopping to laugh and gloat periodically. I think the only one with a chance at even perceiving raddiz is possibly spiderman.

@Animeloversonicfan

9 ай бұрын

No Spider-Man would get wrecked by Raditz and the only avenger that would stand a chance of beating him would be Hulk or maybe Thor but not Spider-Man. 😂😂😂

@danielchalmers9815

9 ай бұрын

all i said was he might have a chance of seeing him, not that he stood a chance of fighting.@@Animeloversonicfan

@user-qn5iv3cf7b

8 ай бұрын

this is the comment i was looking for

@jimjamjon2285

8 ай бұрын

Radditz is multi city level at mac relax lmfao

@danielchalmers9815

8 ай бұрын

@@jimjamjon2285 Master Roshie destroyed the moon with a power level of 139, radits is 11x stronger than him.

I was a little surprised that they would get through radiz but I knew there would be no way they would get through Vegeta and nappa

Nappa destroyed a whole city with 2 fingers at arrival

Vegeta can move faster than normal humans can see but normal people can see the Avengers move. Nuff said.

@raptorduck8785

3 күн бұрын

By that point even Chaos can move faster than normal humans can see. Yamcha will be overkill for the Avengers, maybe they have a chance against Yajirobe (who defeated Piccolo sons without any problem).

@SonGoku-io7sh

3 күн бұрын

​@raptorduck8785 I think even general tao would be overkill for the Avengers

People forget that before going to Earth. In the very early episodes of DBZ. Vegeta blew up a planet with a small energy blast cause he felt like it. Imagine the output his Galick Gun can do.

@ttv_mrjack6749

Жыл бұрын

that was filler tho and never repeated. He had to power up his Galek gun to do the same during a mainline episode. Fair to say that was an outlier feat.

@eyeballtreehouse111

Жыл бұрын

​@@ttv_mrjack6749context means nothing to you? That's filler but piccolo could do the same thing in the same saga? Roshi did the same thing in original dragon ball. Planetary destruction is child's play to Vegeta from the moment he's introduced

@effortless4588

Жыл бұрын

@@ttv_mrjack6749 filler is canon to dbz lmao, king Vegeta destroyed 3 planets with a wave of his hand it’s not an outlier for Vegeta to do the same with a tiny ki blast

@aspiknf

Жыл бұрын

@@eyeballtreehouse111 Wasn't Vegeta in space when he did that feat? Saiyans can't breathe in space.

@ttv_mrjack6749

Жыл бұрын

@@eyeballtreehouse111 Neither of them did it effortlessly and no, the moon is absolutely not the same as Earth and almost all blasts to destroy Earth are charged up and intense moments. Otherwise, random blasts from SSGSSB x10KK will obliterate the Earth when brolly deflects them. Filler isn't cannon to future seasons or referenced again, hence it being non-cannon. It's just a sequence to fill up time.

I love how everyone forgets the actual first time the moon was blown up. Roshi exploded it in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. In the anime His kamehameha traveled from the surface of the earth to a rising moon in 5 seconds and the moon survived for roughly 25 seconds before it detonated. At five seconds flight time, roshi’s Kamehameha traveled at 1/6th the speed of light. His power level at the time was at max power 125. Raditz is ten times that.

The same elbow that Raditz landed on Goku/Piccolo would kill Iron Man instantly. Raditz is much stronger than moon level, Nappa and Vegeta are really overkill and not needed at all. New York would be ashes on the moment Raditz/Nappa raised their fingers.

I'm just imagining Nappa just raising his 2 fingers at the army of avengers and wiping out like 95% of them instantly, like how he levels the city he crashed landed on Like a small scale version of the Snap

If Vegeta ever felt even remotely threatened, then it would be goodbye earth and not a single character could have been able to stop him. MAYBE Marvel could have tried to tackle him away from the planet and into space, but that's assuming she has the actual strength to actually budge him.

@DeltaTTYSQ33z3R

Жыл бұрын

Also Vegeta is a genius when it comes to combat. Idk if C. Marvel will be able to fight him, despite maybe possibly having close to strength

@LionWithAGun

Жыл бұрын

she absorbs energy kinda like super 17 in gt. i think if she just tanked it she would be fine. especially if shes been getting boosted by smaller blast in the fight against nappa. her being boosted by their energy could help but i think shed be the counter to a planet destroying move. making it be a fist fight for vegeta or having to catch her off guard to hit a gallick gun

@WorldWalker128

Жыл бұрын

Depends on who is writing the script. She has as much strength and abilities as the plot requires for victory rather than any actual earned skill...unless we're talking classic comic Captain Marvel and not modern Captain Marvel. They're both powerful, but unfortunately you just can't beat plot armor.

@DeltaTTYSQ33z3R

Жыл бұрын

She does have abilities to soft counter vegeta’s attack but remember that he has tremendous battle experience. I don’t remember her actually having to “fight” someone with similar strength, the last in the comics she absorbed powerful energy and became her strongest form, she died of j remember correctly.

@lancejac6250

Жыл бұрын

Please please please destroy the earth. Vegeta and nappa need air. Thor and captain marvel don't and those space shops don't seem to fast or hard

Can you make this video again with the comic book avengers?

@Mortalitas2000

13 күн бұрын

Comic book thor bodies vegeta even in his Ultra Ego form, saiyan saga vegeta stands 0 chance

@aarons6935

3 күн бұрын

​@@Mortalitas2000Hell no, Comic Thor is crazy strong for sure but current saiyans are beyond multiversal. Not to mention what utra ego actually is and zenkai boosts.

@xxkamikazexx5150

14 сағат бұрын

​@@aarons6935 thor is high outer in the comics he one shots the entire verse

Bro got the LR PHY Ultimate Gohan music Bros got the whole Dokkan OST list!

They could win with the Infinity Stones, although it wouldn´t be very easy. Both Nappa and Vegeta are war experts, so the struggle for the Gauntlet that happened in End Game, if it happened, would be way more intense, and even if Nappa had the intention of letting them use it, Vegeta would warn him to do otherwise, like he did when Krillin charged the Destructo-Disk against Nappa, unless they snap before they arrive, making it very anti-climatic.

@Spritesforpeeps

Жыл бұрын

tony would need t most likely, if thaos wasn't there, and although that could probably kill them both its a low chance

@Mars20231

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't they not have all the stones because of thanos not being involved?

@butterflymage5623

Жыл бұрын

Without thanos though, would they even have the idea of using the snap in the first place?

@timevalentime1806

Жыл бұрын

They would only have the time stone and mind. They might get the space stone if loki wasn't stingy, but it took thor being tortured for him to bring it out so that's not likely. The power stone was in the possession of thanos, the reality stone is still with the collector on knowhere, and there's absolutely no way they're getting the soul stone. Come to think of it, Thor won't even have his hammer in this so he'd be far weaker.

@SlewedBoot25934

Жыл бұрын

Strange could freeze time and allow Thor and Captain Marvel to attack the Saiyans.

Considering that King Piccolo was easily destroying entire cities with his ki blasts, I think it's safe to say that there is no chance that the Avengers can defeat any of the villains in Dragon Ball Z. Imo the Avengers could only make it to the Red Ribbon Army saga before they become outclassed.

@necr0danc3r29

Жыл бұрын

They'd have to rely on magic hax pretty consistently to deal with anything above Nappa's level.

@The_Funny_Fishstick

Жыл бұрын

I love all of you for this😂

@SeanDaNerd

Жыл бұрын

Master Roshi blew up the moon on like episode 25 of Dragon Ball. Also Piccolo blew up the moon when he was raising Gohan

@youhobosarereadytohaha6050

Жыл бұрын

Present day red ribbon would absolutely eat their asses with Gamma 1 and 2.

@realamericannegro977

Жыл бұрын

Ot would take characters like Blue Marvel and Sliver Surfer to mess with Z

I love this kind of videos because it reminds me of how me and my friends spend time talking bullshit on our group chat. also, i think you can't possibly be faster than light, because it's exponential; you can never reach it's limit and even if you do, at the end you'll be on the end of the time/universe.

"raditz heads directly to new york" aight..

Its best not to forget kid goku in the Tourney against Krillin went invisible just by side stepping quickly and got up into his face and hit him like 8 times. While the audience only saw goku appear and scare him out of the ring and this is a child easily 5x weaker than Raditz at this point in the story the Top level fighters they had already begun to use ki sensing to follow the opponents instead of their eyes since sudden movements were harder to follow. Raditz can Oozaru which would further multiple his speed and strength and he even called himself an elite Soldier and it is known that the elite Saiyans can maintain their sanity under transformation lets say they beat Raditz by a stretch Nappy boi can easily kill all of em while geat's sun tans. 🤣

@meganparrish807

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that speed feat with Thanos hitting Marvel isn't much of one because that's her traveling speed not her combat speed. DBZ has combat speeds that completely blow the MCU out of the water.

@Painbodyy

Жыл бұрын

@@meganparrish807especially when you consider that when nappa and vegeta first landed Gohan who had been training for months couldn’t even see them move

3:20 I don’t think it’s fair to say that the power stone was being used at full force when it hit those avengers. If a planetary destruction level beam hit a person, even if they blocked it, it would either explode or crator them into the earth (and then explode), unless we’re assuming that iron man’s legs were strong enough to push back planetary devastation levels of force. Even then, his legs would be exerting that same amount of force into the ground beneath him, still causing a massive global natural disaster at best.

@baloogathewale

11 ай бұрын

I think it wouldn't be that bad of a statement to make because those characters were relative to Ironman and if the power stone was capable of planetary feats he should scale to that. Especially if you take into account that thanos was going for the kill with Ironman specifically and was more than likely going all out and the other characters scale around that

@elijahlee3610

11 ай бұрын

You can't apply that level of physics logic to the MCU or DBZ. Realistically, iron man would kill himself from the amount of G force he outputs. You just have to turn your brain off with certain things

@fatty1040

10 ай бұрын

​​@@elijahlee3610except by turning our brains off that makes Dragon Ball feats much stronger than MCU feats. Considering they MCU dont move at super speed like DBZ characters do in every fight.

@cliffordsmith8499

10 ай бұрын

@@fatty1040 they do tho in the comics. It's hard to put that speed in a movie and make it look good for the audience. Kinda why we have yet to get a good Manga live action movie. There are just things you can't do with movies. Kind of why I think this comparison isn't quite fair. Comparing a cartoon/manga to a live action movie instead of the comics/cartoons.

@fatty1040

10 ай бұрын

@@cliffordsmith8499 It is in dragon balls case tho since they establish early on for their universe is that they ARE moving that fast and the Manga panels are glimpses of what we get to see. So if a character teleports (Nobody can teleport except Goku, literally all characters have this teleport move which is just them putting all their effort and energy into flying) They really are just moving so much more faster and as their power increases so does their speed, endurance, strength, energy capacity, mental focus, and intrinsic powers. Literally all that gets stronger by them increasing their ki. Even the dbz technology is OP. Bulma took an alien spaceship "Kamis spaceship" and it took them to Jupiter in less than 5 seconds. They want to use this ship to go to another planet called "Namek" that takes earth technology 4339 years to reach but with Kamis spaceship it took 32 days instead.

...and here I am waiting for Vegeta to say that famous Thanos line "...fine, I'll do it myself" instead of "it's over 9000!" 😅

One thing people forget is that Vegeta on his way to earth nuked a planet to rubble in a moment and not break a sweat. That's comparable to the scene of the power stone destroying a planet, but Vegeta can just do that easy with ki from his fingers.

I was thinking that maybe they could hold their own against the base saiyans but I kinda forgot Goku was dodging light speed attacks at like 9

@WaveForceful

11 ай бұрын

Raditz would be a challenge for them. Remember, Thanos uses the power zone to throw chucks of a moons surface at stark. Piccolo at the start of Z casually one shots the moon in a mid training arc. Huge difference here.

Avengers better know the "Pecking Order" 😂😂😂

@NotEddieValdez

Ай бұрын

RULE NUMBER ONE OF POPO'S TRAINING

@thewisemanpaul

Ай бұрын

Every superhero from every universe together wouldn't last 30 seconds against Popo

@ddfh01

3 күн бұрын

Best TFS popo clip is from the most recent buu saga set “ok one finger”

Awesome video! I would love to see a fight sequence carried out with all of them. No, the Doctor Strange was occupied during the final battle, and he wasn’t involved, plus it spells against Thanos or countered by the stones, not sheer power

I could easily see strange opening a portal and redirecting a final flash. Or doing some weird mirror dimension stuff. Or closing a portal to cut someone in half. Or using the time stone to age them both into skeletons. Tony would probably make a nanovirus or something to weaken them using the body of raditz as a reference

Travel speed and combat speed feats in fiction are often extremely disjointed and should not be combined for scaling, lest you want to accept extreme inconsistencies. Another pet peeve is assuming light-based attacks/energy beams travel at light speed and scaling characters who react to/dodge them accordingly, because doing so would also put these feats as MASSIVE outliers compared to literally any other speed feat in their series.

@eggwet8767

11 ай бұрын

he gave the avengers some wank to give them almost a chance they needed it

@Nazhulian

11 ай бұрын

That it would. I see people doing this a lot, and it's completely inconsistent in most media. Rather annoying to witness because nearly every time it makes no sense and is only there to shoehorn a "balance" in to try and make the fight hypothetically feasible.

@blackmail2459

11 ай бұрын

What’s annoying about fiction is that characters no matter how “fast” they are, are never faster than the speed of sound. Goku in the first tournament arc literally disappears from the human eye, from sheer speed, but there’s not a sonic boom? Mfs talk while fighting at insane speeds if you were to overcome the impossibility of such a thing. The rock of power can be deflected by what amounts to regenerating tin? Captain marvel somehow being the least offending character is hilarious rn.

@deplorabledegenerate2630

10 ай бұрын

Thought the same thing and said as much. There also is a false correlation between strength and striking power. I think the best way I've heard it described is a bulldozer is 'stronger' than a sports car, but being hit by the bulldozer at top speed knocks you over where as being hit by the sports car at top speed shatters you.

@______Daniel

10 ай бұрын

Yeah this screws up everything imo

I love the stone cold cut to “Vegeta” lmfao. That was a really funny transition💀. Yeah man

I immediately was like “hah, no.” But I still clicked the video.

one thing to keep in mind when talking about heroes vs humans sometimes being “equal” in feats compared to heroes vs villains is a lot of the heroes hold back DRASTICALLY when fighting regular humans. cap in the elevator compared to him vs thanos is a great example. he isn’t trying to murder those guys like he would be when fighting thanos. any spider-man fight would apply as well even with some villains with powers. in the comics, doc oc takes control of spider-man’s body and accidentally brutalizes a villain not knowing how much spider-man was pulling his punches all those years. spider-man can easily punch people into swiss cheese if he wants to and even to a lot of villains with legitimate powers. although he does move with his enhanced agility when fighting regular people, and same goes for captain america, it HAS to be self nerfed or else they’d go around knocking peoples heads off and i’m sure the villains are thankful when walking away with a couple broken ribs and a concussion instead😂 when talking about feats and power levels, the nuance can be important on both sides of the spectrum like how heroes dumb down their powers for the sake of their morals but can still get the job done, or how some heroes can obtain immense power at a cost like tony being able to use the infinity stones at the cost of his life. yes you can say that they are “feats of strength you can gauge” the conditions that apply to those feats may be different according to the position the character is in, and most likely aren’t applicable in most situations. in this case, no hero can afford to hold back against the saiyans, and most of them would get one shot no difficulty anyways, so guardians of the galaxy w power stone or tony/hulk with all infinity stones may be the best chance they have, if the planet isnt blown up before they can all gather 😂

Speed feats on both ends are off due to auto-dodging (dodging where someone is aiming before they pull the trigger on a ftl weapon due to charge up time, their muscles clenching as they squeeze a trigger, or some other tell that occurs before the weapon is fired). For example, Tony Stark's lasers are consistently shown to have a power up interval, and he, a base human, has to aim and fire his weapons without his suit moving so quickly it turns his organs to jelly. Because of this everyone with the exception of quicksilver is human, human+, or low tier super human in speed. Even Captain Marvel. Given that every time we see her in combat she is moving, at best, at Quicksilver speed, it most likely means that she either has no fine control over her movements or she can only use her max speed to fly through deep space. Her failing to instantly reach the portal, and instead being intercepted by Thanos throwing a weapon that Tony and Captain America could react to, supports this. Dragonball (not Dragonball Z) Krillin, in his first martial arts tournament, was capable of moving faster than base human vision to the point where he and his opponent were invisible. Adult Krillin, at the start of DBZ, could speed blitz the majority of the Avengers army. The only people he might not be able to kill are Captain Marvel, Thor, and the Hulk due to not having very good damage feats. If you include power level scaling it's probably only Captain Marvel that survives. She is then probably killed by Raditz, and it's not even close. Their only hope is to use magic or shrinking tech to send the Saiyans to another dimension using trickery, since even powerful characters in DBZ regularly choose to interact with people at non-super speeds, and all three of the Saiyans love gloating.

@sonicszuetomyt5448

Жыл бұрын

Avengers: send out Saiyans to another dimension The Saiyans: -Hey Vegeta do you think we'll be able to go back if we shout like reeeeeeaaaaaal loud? -What, have you lost your mind nappa, we're in the middle of nowhere, that magician sent us down here- -REEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! (A portal opens) -See? I told you Vegeta! _The point: Gotenks and Buu opened portals Hyperbolic Space chamber/Earth by screaming_

@MonochromaticPrism

Жыл бұрын

@@sonicszuetomyt5448 Right, but the Hypersonic Rhyme Chamber isn't a natural dimension, it's artificial and made of magic. Sending someone to another naturally occurring dimension is the same as teleporting them to the other side of the universe. Once they are there, unless they can open portals themselves they have no means of returning.

@Lynn.-_-.

Жыл бұрын

@@MonochromaticPrism But the avengers are still ducked. Frieza would come to check why vegeta disappeared even if he doesn't care about him he is one of the strongest guys in his army. He'll check earth out and the avengers basically have 0 hope of wining unless they do magic shit.

@Vertraic

Жыл бұрын

@@Lynn.-_-. Nah, before he went to earth Vegeta was just a high level grunt for Frieza. That's why most of his forces just laughed at and mocked him when he first arrived on Namek. It was only his most common foot soldiers that were overwhelmed by pre-earth Vegeta. His lieutenants like Dodoria would have annihilated him even in Ape form back then, let alone something like the Ginyu force. And he did not tell Frieza where he was going ANYWAYS, so it likely would have just blown over.

@Lynn.-_-.

Жыл бұрын

@@Vertraic Let me explain. Frieza doesn't care about vegeta but it's not like his a weakling by any measures. His still stronger than most of friezas army which would pique friezas interest as to who killed the saiyans especially considering how earth isn't even on friezas radar (frieza is running a galactic empire which sells planets so it's highly likely he would be interested in a backwater planet which managed to kill 3 saiyans). And considering how the scouters are all connected ( that's how he found out about the dragon balls, if I remember correctly) I don't think it would be that hard to find earth. Considering the avengers can't match vegetas power so they would use magic which if frieza knew, he might decide to nip the problem before it blossoms considering how frieza destroyed planet vegeta (Ima ignore the lazy gluttonous cat 🐱 here). Even if he doesn't come he still would send scouts to check out earth but considering how far behind earth is if the scouts leave unharmed frieza might just lose interest if he doesn't know about the magic.

This was actually way more thought out and balanced than I thought it was going to be. However, I still sort of disagree with the first point about the power stone. In the scene we see a Celestial using it to destroy a planet, but I think it just enhances whoever is using it. So the stronger the user, a Celestial for example, the stronger the stones power.

@sumanoskae

Жыл бұрын

This is one of many leaps of logic in the video.

@Michaeljefferson9000

Жыл бұрын

This is the case. The Power Stone does have some energy manipulation powers, but its main ability is to greatly enhance the qualities of whoever is holding it. Someone who is strong will become stronger, someone who is fast will become faster, etc. It's the most important stone for that specific reason; it boosts the other stones when used together. At least, that's how it works in the comics. The movies have really screwed with how they work, and the universe in general.

@federicoarmada8775

Жыл бұрын

They explained in GOTG that the power’s stone power depends on its target’s size.

@absolstoryoffiction6615

Жыл бұрын

Given the snap... I don't think so... However, it's probably an exception given by using all 6 IS. But the MCU made a point that a User has to be stronger or equal to a celestial (or of a child of one) in order to use, at least, the power stone. And the Celestials crafted universes, so their staff to no diff one planet is more of them "walking on a beach".

@absolstoryoffiction6615

Жыл бұрын

@@Michaeljefferson9000 The Power Stone in Marvel Comic has no limitation with its User and did more than powering up its User. You're basically a Saiyan as a Human with absolute power. Think of Doom Guy and BS anything which can harm, affect, kill you because you're too angry to die. That is the Power Stone's full capability. Matter manipulation abd energy manipulation is just one factor of the Power Stone. But make no mistake... All but the Mind Stone and Soul Stone can do very much the same as the Power Stone in the Comics. Mind and Soul are on the level of the Phoenix Force, Eternity, and the Living Tribunal. Both stones are of thar calibur at max potential. Then all 6 together, it is neigh omnipotence. More so than what the Movies could ever hope to grasp... Even the Complete Nullifier is but a toy against the Infinity Stones.

As soon as homie said MCU I knew it was up for the avengers 😭

Speed feats are so crazy in anime it’s hard to imagine to see how averages could physically keep up

I genuinely thought raditz would wash the avengers, but to hear they can get passed Nappa is surprising

@fiddlesticks7245

11 ай бұрын

He's being incredibly generous to the Avengers

@obamna5923

11 ай бұрын

​@@fiddlesticks7245Even that's an understatement.

Keep in mind the power level for Nappa (4000) is a suppressed level of Nappa's power. When Nappa got serious he was able to contend with Goku and Goku was required to use Kaio Ken x2 (if no multiplier for Kaio Ken is stated it is x2) in order to defeat him quickly. Therefore considering Goku's power level is around 8,100 or so (just over 8,000) then Nappa is most likely in the 7,000 to 7,500 range. Basically doubling his power. Therefore if Nappa WAS taking the fight seriously he most likely could win with high difficulty.

@gamerthings2559

Жыл бұрын

I’d say Nappa’s full power is around 6000, but I do like your logic.

@zionarrington8489

Жыл бұрын

Nah thats not true. Goku had some close calls but definitely didn't struggle with nappa and only had to ×2 to help out killin and gohan because he wasn't close enough

@brandonreed3670

Жыл бұрын

@@zionarrington8489Goku wasn’t struggling, but he did seem to think the fight would take a while after Nappa got serious. I got the sense that Goku would’ve maintained the upper hand, but wouldn’t just dominate him. So with that said, I’d say Nappa’s power level was quite a bit higher than 4000 when he was focused. Consider that Piccolo’s power level was like 3000, and he still wasn’t much of a match for Nappa, so if Nappa’s real power level was only 4000 I don’t think he would’ve been able swap hands with Goku.

@fatherofjman2475

Жыл бұрын

I think your forgetting the part where goku without kaio ken stood on a pissed off nappa’s head. My man didnt struggle, he was making a statement.

@brandonreed3670

Жыл бұрын

@@fatherofjman2475 that was before Nappa powered up/focused though. Goku didn’t struggle even after Nappa powered up or whatever, but he wasn’t dominating him anymore

And we had to pick the weakest form of them. Basically kid Goku/Gohan could handle all of them as well. Its hilarious to think that even Superman would have gotten wiped if he accidentally scared baby Gohan just by his latent powers! And now they are in the BILLIONS of power levels yet when they throw a ki blast it never makes more than a crater on Earth. I always find that a big plot hole. They should be having all these fights in space - accidentally blowing up uninhibited planets or moons with just tiny ki blasts to illustrate how far they have come.

Avengers vs The Saibamen would be a more even fight.