I am 70 years young. Wanted an ev didn't know anyone with one. Talking to my son told him that I wanted to get the Chevy Bolt. He told me if I wanted an ev get a Tesla. He lives in LA. So that's what I did. I absolutely love my My. I can honestly say I will never ever go back to ice. I agree with everything that you have said.

Good video....I bought a Y a year ago. Since then I've done 17,000 klms....no issues other than a slight rattle developed from the rear hatch. Tesla came out and adjusted the 'bump stops' and all is silent again. Total energy cost for the first year was less than 200 euro. It's a no-brainer.

People ask me about my EV (MG ZS EV) & the same thing comes up every time, it takes so long on public chargers. I tell them I've had EV's for over six years & I haven't used a public charger yet. They look at me dumbfounded, I tell them I charge overnight a couple of times a week & our requirements for car usage is well within the range of the car. When I ask them about their car usage, it turns out they're not much different to my usage. They really have been brainwashed by the media.

@Kevin-dp1vy

10 күн бұрын

What about the 45% of people who cannot charge at home? How do you convince them to use public chargers costing 69 or 79 pence per kWh, which makes an EV more expensive to run than a petrol car?

@_Dougaldog

10 күн бұрын

@@Kevin-dp1vy My plan in next year or two is to charge once a week at public chargers, some are still 25p/kWh, most are 47p/kWh (still cheaper than diesel), some are free, or take a Tesla membership for @ £9 a month and get access to their fast chargers (same ones as in video) for as low as 22p/kWh fast charge at off peak rates.

@pauldavies6037

10 күн бұрын

Sounds like you only do short journeys !

@truebrit3670

9 күн бұрын

​@Kevin-dp1vy in the UK, 25% of homes don't own a car. 60% have off road parking. That leaves just 15% of homes with a car but no off road parking. That's a fair way off 45%. Where on earth did that figure come from?

@lancpudn

9 күн бұрын

@@pauldavies6037 We're both retired so no commutes & true we don't do any long trips in it these days.

On my way back from a holiday in Scotland. Just drove the NC500 in a Volvo V60 B4 petrol. It was my last holiday in an ICE vehicle. Going to pick up my Model Y LR on Monday afternoon 😉😉😉

@_Dougaldog

10 күн бұрын

Gods own country up there, the NC500 is spectacular.

Totally agree with all you say, but some have very closed minds, and don’t want to listen to the truth, if you trust the car for your charging (Tesla) you can’t really go wrong.

@user-jb2om7cm8m

9 күн бұрын

I just came back from a 2 week vacation in Scotland. We stayed at a castle, remote hotel and a cabin. there were 2 chargers about a quarter of a mile from the cabin. Both said 'out of order'. I'm sure you can plan your entire trip around finding working chargers to wait at, but I didn't have to do that; because the car had a real engine in it, so we decided where and when we wanted the car to go, not the other way around.

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

8 күн бұрын

​@user-jb2om7cm8m just because your vehicle has an internal combustion engine does not absolve you from doing a modicum of planning, does it. Are you going to embark on a road trip in a diesel hoping they sell diesel somewhere where you want to go? (I live in North America, diesel is not as common here as it is in Europe) Are you going to risk fueling up at some hole-in-the-wall place with fuel storage tanks that have started to rust because they are decades old? I wouldn't. The infrastructure for ICE vehicles has the advantage of being older, so that most of the unreliable or expensive players have managed to fall off or got acquired. This will happen to chargers too. You can still vote with your wallet today though. As others have pointed out, here, and on other channels, you can get a Tesla membership today and enjoy lower rates. The membership usually pays for itself in one charging session. But just like you wouldn't only go to Shell stations with an ICE car, you don't have to only go to Tesla. As Ian demonstrated, there are other options available, like CPS. Leverage them.

@user-ms7vm8gu9m

8 күн бұрын

@@PeterWroblewski-xv9br Where did my reply say I had an ICE ?

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

8 күн бұрын

@user-ms7vm8gu9m when I saw "the car had a real engine" I assumed. Shame on me.

@user-jb2om7cm8m

8 күн бұрын

@@PeterWroblewski-xv9br Sure, I planned our trip- around places we WANTED to go. I'm not flying half way around the world to experience the charm of Scottish parking lots. Charging infrastructure will never equal the convenience of gas stations. The reason gas stations occupy prime real estate on main roads, intersections, on/off ramps is because they can afford to- they can serve a dozen customers in 5 minutes. This high traffic also makes a profitable convenience store viable. You'd need a football field of chargers for that volume. Besides that, EV owners avoid public charging like the plague- so there's never going to be the demand for them anyway.

Completely agree, got a new Model 3 RWD last week. So much better than my old (old) Mercedes C Class. Charging overnight at 6.9p KWh is saving me a fortune compared to Diesel costs.

Great video. My experiences match your own. Except I can't charge at home. This means every six days or so (every 200 miles on average) I plug into a Tesla Supercharger for about 30 mins at a local shopping centre while we're shopping. The last long journey I drove was a 370-mile round trip; the Tesla navigation directed me to a supercharger which was less than a mile diversion from my route and where I had to charge for a whole 12 minutes to get home. My 'Tessie' app reports that after 9,000 miles my battery has started to degrade - by 0.1%! At this rate I'll have lost a whole 3 miles of range by the time I've done 50,000 miles or so. What's worse is the battery will be down to 70% after less than 3 million miles! I think I can comfortably say that the battery will outlive me....

Since 8/9/22 I have done 28,241 trouble free miles, used Superchargers 58 times and saved over £8,500 to what running a Mercedes 350GLE cost on the same mileage, the Merc not trouble free either I would add. Wouldn't have an ice car for any money after my Model Y, and I wouldn't have any other make of electric car either as Tesla make EV's , the rest make electric cars. There is a world of difference.....

@paulscott1759

9 күн бұрын

£8500 is a big saving on fuel costs ,onto blame you having a Tesla if that is the result

excellent detailed and balanced summary of why EVs are a very good option for a lot of people who are considering changing their cars or buying new cars. Well Done!👌

Totally agree with your thoughts and comments, 250 miles or more from a lot of EV's whatever the weather meaning any range is possible as you would need to stop before the car needs a charge. Most times my trips out and home fall within my range so I charge at home, whilst sleeping, making use of a cheap overnight tariff. It seems we keep quoting the 5 minutes to fill up, but we should all start to remember you have to get to and from the filling station. I am 20 minutes on a clear run to our local Sainsburys that has cheaper fuel so would be the go to. If it is busy, that can be 40 minutes, then queue for a while then fill up, go in and pay to get my Nectar points, then drive home. So in an evening and I have a range of 40 miles and remember I need to do a 150 mile round trip the next day, I needed at least an hour to drive to filling station and top up, also using 25 miles of range. With my EV, I now walk out of my front door, unwind my charge cable and plug in the EV. Then go back insideand get on with my day. Whilst I sleep car will charge. Time spent is less than 1 minute, that I would have also used to get in and out of my ICE car. In response to charging I usually explain when I had my first EV over 3 years ago, it was often 1 or 2 EV chargers upto 50kWh, now those places have added 10 to 20 higher power chargers and then Tesla may well have similar charger numbers as well. Dealers still don't want to sell you an EV as their chance of making more money for repairs and service is now very limited with an EV.

@michaelmcnally2331

9 күн бұрын

Now the reason people give the 5 minutes is this. I NEVER go out to fuel my car. What I do is I combine my refuelling with my shopping. 0.6 miles away from home and try to do on way home after being out so no short driving. So I drive to the right of the filling station on way into the supermarket and then call into the filling station on the way out rather then drive around and down the left of the filling station then drive through and fill up, then drive home. It literally is 5 minutes to stop, do the card, fill up. And not in the shop more then 10 minutes so not going to get much charge done in that time. I have no idea where they get on average an hour in shop to do weekly shopping. Now if I could charge at home then I would quite happily have an EV. However as I cannot (1st floor flat and off road parking bay the other side of the road so dragging a cable across a road not a path) then just don’t make sense. Charge at work - work from home so my car is not able to charge there. I work for logistics company where go out and setup new warehouses, being new they don’t have charging points fitted until after I have finished so no charging there. Established ones are being refitted but cannot say that will be where I am visiting. Local charging points - Tesco where limited to 3 hours and is 44p KWh. Or there is supercharger at 85p KWh leaving town to get onto trunk road. There is a Tesla supercharger bank about 20min away. Now when go out for work then need full charge as cannot charge at destination and work is not going to want to pay me to be sat charging the car. So tesco - is a 22Kw charger so would need to take to tesco, leave it, walk home, go collect it later to not pay fine. Take back later on and finish charging. So two charging visits to get full battery up or pay the 85p and sit 20min at the supercharger or go out of way to go to Tesla. Servicing - once a year combined with the MOT visit so not really losing out there. Even dave takes it on recognises that EV don’t currently work for everyone and that I am one of those people. Changed car last year and went with a self charging or full hybrid. Those short bits in town on EV and petrol/EV for the longer journeys. Like I said earlier if I could charge from home then an EV would be fine. in fact would be a Tesla Model Y LR. With that then 95% of journeys could be done without public charging. I looked up quickly on Halifax mortgage calc and assuming 1.). Got full price for my flat 2.). Paid asking price for cheapest home with driveway in local town As am currently mortgage free - lived in flat 27 years so mortgage all paid then would be 925 a month, so no way is it worth moving to home charge. Most journeys around the 2 hour mark and motorway so within non stop each way so at fast charging in 20minutes then is dead time for me, though work would still be paying me but hey wouldn’t be too happy with me. Oh and I have a fuel card for work so the petrol doesn’t cost me for work journeys whereas would have to pay charging and claim per mile for EV. Is one of the reason you also hear “rich man’s toys” thrown out as to really benefit then home charging is required, one guy earlier this year was reporting that -8p on his EV tarrif so got paid to charge his car. Work does expect to have an EV as company car and have to fill out a form as why cannot have one. Even though work is very pro EV then they recognise that not going to work for everyone.

When I bought the MY, I was in the market for a new vehicle. My prior daily driver is a 1999 SUV. Three vehicles interested me. The Y AWD, a Traverse AWD, a Sienna AWD. The Y was the least expensive, coming from discounted inventory stock, and getting the federal tax credit. Lowest price and no dealership dance to do.

Great video Ian, I’m on my 4th EV, Outlander PHEV, Nissan Leaf 40kw, Tesla M3LR and currently Tesla MYL?..join the EV revolution thay are all great to drive, reliable and very economical to charge…Just Get A Tesla ❤️❤️❤️

I’ve used salary sacrifice to get a Tesla Model Y Long Range, all standard options, which comes next week. For four years lease it comes to net £510 a month, which includes all servicing (likely not to be any), tyres, insurance for me and my wife and I also get the 15k supercharger miles. Bearing in mind the insurance on the car would have been around £100 a month I essentially get the car for just over £400 a month. (8k miles a year btw). So little expense on charging and that kind of payment just makes sense for me. My work also pay pension before any salary sacrifice is taken into consideration so I don’t lose out there either.

I think the real question is not how far can you go (range) but how far do you need to go. I charge at home to 55 or 60% daily and never think about range at all. On road trips I charge to what I need to start the trip at home then Supercharge as needed. Quite honestly the car will go much farther than I want to go between stops. I need to stretch my legs, pee and just let my eyes rest every 60 - 90 minutes anyway. Charging on road trips just happens while I stop. It's just so easy. Add in FSD and I am a relaxed road tripper.

I test drive the model y and the model 3 today. The y was artful, however, I was really impressed with the model 3. Just looking to place the order to benefit from 15k free supercharger miles

@_Dougaldog

10 күн бұрын

Is there any time limit on using the free milage offer ?

@graham1155

10 күн бұрын

@@_Dougaldog not that I’m aware of, the only issue is that the order needs to be placed by the 25th June and picked up before the end of the month

@_Dougaldog

10 күн бұрын

@@graham1155 Thanks for update, too short notice for me at the moment, but soon perhaps. I'm sure the offers will happen regularly as sweeteners.

@graham1155

10 күн бұрын

@@_Dougaldog take it for a test drive, I was very impressed. The air conditioned seats were a big bonus today. I did come away with a new appreciation for my CUPRA born though, I hadn’t realised how good it is.

I just got a Tesla Model Y, after owning two previous ev cars I have finally managed to go Tesla. I am delighted with the Tesla and the technology within this wonderful car, as part of the deal this month Tesla is given 15000mls free supercharge charging along with the car, looking forward to a long drive in my car. Always enjoy your outlook on EV cars.

@salibaba

10 күн бұрын

All I hear there is, I’ve had my Nokia, (Leaf) and my Motorola (i3) but I’m just going iPhone now (Tesla) because it just works.

I’ve been a Land and Range Rover owner since 1996. Decided to have a break from them in 2018 and sold a 100% reliable, very capable on and off road SDv6 Range Rover Sport for a not Land Rover PHEV. It’s wasn’t a disaster but it wasn’t good either - in theory it had 28 miles electric range that was in reality 20 miles on a sunny day and 12 miles in the depth of winter of pure electric running but when the battery was dead the 1.5lt 3 cylinder turbo petrol, while powerful enough was an alcoholic on petrol and even on the best run couldn’t beat 28 mpg in purely ICE mode. I traded it in after 2 years for a 2020 Defender 4 cylinder diesel. I was loaned a Mini Cooper S E BEV for a day while the Defender was having an oil and filter change. What a fun little car that was and as I had retired by then the 120 miles range was not an issue as my longest journeys never exceeded the range of a fully charged battery so I bought one on a PCP. Still have another Defender but it sits waiting for the weekends when there is an off-roading run and after nearly 3 years of great fun the Cooper S E was traded in in April for a new Countryman S E BEV with almost twice the size of battery and the ability to get me from home in Stirling to Manchester on one 100% charge from my solar panels or a few kWs from Octopus Intelligent off peak lecky - poor Defender now goes for a 32 mile drive every 2 weeks just to keep bits from seizing up or the 12v battery from dying. For the cost of a full tank of diesel + Adblu I can drive for 4 months on the same cost of electricity AND cover many many more miles as the EV can manage 160mpgE on a bad day to the best the Defender can do of 38 mpg on a long trip. When it comes time to sell the Defender (which I own outright) it won’t be replaced with another diesel, if there is an affordably priced BEV Defender then the Mini and the diesel Defender will go but TBH I don’t see there ever being an AFFORDABLE pure electric Land Rover Defender with the capability of the ICE versions who’s new prices are now getting silly too. My Countryman has an Offroad mode but I think the hardest off-roading it can handle is one of the graded Forest Drives despite what is shown in the Mini’s adverts! BTW I took the Countryman to Harrogate over the May Bank Holiday - total cost of public charging at IONITY Carlisle southbound, EVPoint Harrogate and IONITY Carlisle northbound was £61 and in total I spent 18 minutes at the IONITY chargers each way and 22 minutes at Harrogate. I did the same trip in 2023 in the Defender and at today’s diesel price the cost of fuel would have been £128 and about 10 minutes to fill up once, but I’m not in a hurry so time spent charging isn’t an issue for me and I do need to stop every couple of hours for my comfort regardless of whether it’s an electric car or a diesel one, just that the EV charges while I take a stroll and I have to divert to a smelly slippery forecourt to fill up with diesel that makes my hands, shoes and clothes small. Another great thing few seem to mention with an EV on a long drive is there isn’t that unpleasant mechanical drone the whole time you are driving, it’s worth speccing the best audio system you can in an EV because there is no background motor noise to spoil the sounds!

Well done Ian, there are a few people who will watch this and the penny will drop. Had my Model Y just over a year, a total joy to drive everyday, no issues whatsoever. Also looking forward to attending the Tesla Supercharged event in Bicester this month

@fanfeck2844

9 күн бұрын

Is this just a owners event? I’m near by in Oxford

@Steve_Flack

9 күн бұрын

@@fanfeck2844 I believe it’s open to non-Tesla owners as well. The event link is: teslaowners.org.uk/supercharged-2024

Leaving for Italy via France, Luxembourg, Austria and Switzerland from Glasgow in my Model Y next week. Did similar in Model 3 last year. Except this time, I have free supercharging from the loyalty scheme (sadly currently paused).

Once again Ian, an excellent video. When my EV6 is 3 years old, a Model Y beckons 😊

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@user-jb2om7cm8m

9 күн бұрын

And If you're driving less than 10 miles a day.. you'd only need to spend about 3 minutes every 6 weeks filling up with gas

@penponds

9 күн бұрын

I realise the main audience for this video is in the UK, but for a wider perspective - you need to consider living in a Bushfire / Flood / Tornado / extreme cold high risk region. I live in a relatively “posh” area near Perth, Australia. It’s heavily forested, highly flammable trees and undergrowth, and sketchy road network. Plenty of my local community do have Teslas, but they also have a large ICE 4WD, for hopefully obvious reasons. If I were in the UK and doing typical UK miles my money would be going on a hybrid.

@casperhansen826

8 күн бұрын

​@@penpondssome versions of Tesla are all wheel drive, so I don't see the obvious reason 500 miles will take you about 8 hours. Are you really willing to risk the life of your mum/dad/aunt maud by delaying the hospital visit that much?

Excellent Video. Thank you.

I've had a Model Y LR for almost 2 years. Will never go back to a fossil.

Have to agree with you 100%. 2 years ago today I got my Tesla MY LR. I love it. Over 18000 miles absolutely no problems with anything. I would recommend everyone to get a Tesla. Good secondhand bargains out there. Buy one, you won’t regret it! Leasing a new one is a great option. 6:19

Hello. I own a Tesla standard range plus,I’m currently sitting in the South of France having driven from West Central Scotland. Tesla supercharger network is amazing,the only problem is that you hardly have enough time to enjoy a snack or lunch before you get told to unplug,the car is fully charged and ready to continue the journey.Love your channel,keep up the good work 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇫🇷🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

I've had ICE cars all my life. I love them. I love to shift gears, can't explain it. 3 years ago I got a PHEV ( BMW ) which was my first automatic. I loved it. Now I have a Tesla model Y. I do a lot of miles and I was never so relaxed as I am now: 1. The drive train is fabulous. The car doesn't run, it glides 2. The fact that I have to actually stop to charge it prevents me from tiring I will never go back.

Totally agree , lease prices are lower now overall rather than purchasing and getting hammered with depreciation over 3 years then it's a no brainer really because the lease cost over 3 years will be less

@robertwhite3503

10 күн бұрын

What if you keep the car for ten years?

@paulscott1759

9 күн бұрын

@@robertwhite3503 that's your choice but after 10 years you are looking at 20% of the original purchase price left if not a little bit more so depends on mileage and condition

@frankvanhooft3927

9 күн бұрын

Idon’t get it, imo lease is always more expensive than purchase.

@paulscott1759

9 күн бұрын

@@frankvanhooft3927 not after depreciation is taken into account ,the higher purchase price of the vehicle the more depreciation hits as a percentage of the price

@robertwhite3503

9 күн бұрын

@@frankvanhooft3927 The problem is that EVs are a new technology so people are nervous of buying older cars. There are Tesla's with large mileages that are quite old and still running fine. However this is not well known. If you own the car and are not planning on selling it, then there's no problem. For people buying secondhand it's a huge advantage. The first Tesla Model 3 was built in 2017, but there weren't many at that time. The batteries are warranteed for 8 years and 100k miles, I think. But there are batteries running at 400k miles, I think.

California, Colorado, Florida, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, and Virginia have passed right-to-charge laws aiming to streamline the installation of residential community EV charging stations. Also, Illinois recently passed a right-to-charge law specific to new houses or multiunit buildings.

I am an early Tesla adopter have had a model X since 2018. I agree with all you say and really there are few downsides of EV ownership. One advantage I don’t think you mentioned is going out to a warm car in the morning. Preheat is wonderful and once experienced, you never want to go back. For long trips no problem, I have driven as far as the south of Spain, east to Poland and north to Sweden and have never experienced any problems charging. It just works with the car planning all stops to charge which I have never found inconvenient. The car can go further than my bladder. So after 6 years, no regrets at all and I am still a Tesla fan and would never go back to a petrol car - in fact I even hire Tesla when on business in the USA where I have driven from Boston to LA all with no problems. Why did I originally buy? Although I care for the planet, that was not the main reason, but the incredible safety of Tesla - really the safest car in the world to drive.

We have 2 EVs now and love them. I have many friends and colleagues that will never listen or agree about EVs. I don't even waste my time talking to them about it. Let's just enjoy this new tech and all their advantages. I'm happy that or fuel/energy cost us well under 50% that it was with ICE cars.

I have had a Hyundai Kona EV for 4 years love it 50,000 mile service was £91 I just bought Model 3 RWD with 15,000 supercharger miles thrown i love it obviously but could not agree with you more. The Tesla cost me around £6000 pounds less than a specced up new Kona. People I know think I have paid alot more for it and are totally shocked it's cheaper than comparable BMW and Audis

Living with a tesla is much better than with ice crap.

Another great video Ian 👍

I had a MY for 40k miles. Fantastic car. Regular days of 300+ miles. No issues. Nowhere near as tired at the end of the week. I’ve now just got a M3 highland. It’s a notch up. Ride quality and fit and finish is improved. I’ve had all sorts of vehicles over the last 30 years and the Tesla’s are by far the most useful and easy to live with ride I’ve had…..including thrashing the living daylights out of them. Superb.

I have my Ioniq 5 just over a month now. It has to be the very best car I have ever had. Charge at home, and when out on long trips charging never been a problem. Why did I not get a Tesla, in Northern Ireland there is only one supercharger. So that feature isn’t really a thing here.

I've driven 1800km in a week in my Model 3 in Australia. Zero issues with range and charging despite Australia being so behind due to 10 years of a climate change denying government. I used several Superchargers (only gen 2 unfortunately) and two other companies (350kw and 50kw). No waiting time at all. Price averaged equivalent to 33p a kwh.

From some of the news articles I have read that originated from England there seems to be a large amount of bias against EV’s in the UK. There is also a lot of anti EV bias against them in the US as well. I live in North Carolina USA and I am very happy with my 2023 Tesla Model Y LR. Here we drive about an average of about 40 miles a day or roughly 14,500 miles a year. We just completed a year of ownership of the Tesla and it has cost us about $600 dollars to charge the car for that one year. If we had been driving a typical American car that gets 25 mpg we would have spent about $1900 to fuel the car. So that’s $1,300 savings for us. The other thing to look at is the maintenance cost, a person who changes their oil every 5,000 miles would have spent another $400 dollars just to get the oil changed for a year. We are very happy with the performance of the car and all the free software upgrades we have received so far.

All spot on. Been driving my Kia eNiro for two and a half years now. Mostly charge at home, but do use public chargers on long trips. It’s been nothing but a joy to own, drive and travel in, even for the odd 500 mile day. Mostly I do less than 10 miles a day, on average. The media whining will pass as EVs become more common. Two people have bought EVs as a result of being driven in mine. The cost of ownership for me is two thirds of what my wife pays to run her Kia Picanto.

you've hit the nail on the head with expensive public charging. IF you can charge at home (and I realise not everyone can, but it's a majority) then your day to day charging is SO cheap that the odd expensive charge for a road-trip is just a drop in the ocean overall and shouldn't be worried about.

Have watched various KZread’s about EVs, having weighed everything up bought a Model Y 4 weeks ago, currently in San Sebastián having driven from just south of Glasgow, not one issue encountered, that’s my opinion, enjoy whatever you decide

Plus, if you have solar and battery on your home, you can run your car and house for peanuts in the winter and for nothing in the summer (egregious standing charges aside).

Another great video Ian and agree with everything you’ve said. Before I got mine I was being told that the infrastructure wasn’t ready but I’ve never had range anxiety, because the Tesla is such a technologically brilliant car it does all the charging planning for you. The technology in a Tesla is also a big part of the ‘coolness’ of the car. Would never go back to an ice car now.

Great video. I went for a used EV (Ioniq 5) last March. I haven't looked back. My wife and I toured Argyll in May and it just wasn't an issue to charge at all. It's the way forward. EV's are good to drive and most look fantastic too. They are cheaper to run. I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go which is 7.5p pKwh and so far this month it's cost me £14.09 to charge my car. Charging at home is the key, just as you say in your video. Great channel, Ian.

Great video

Bought my first Model S (P85) way back in March., 2014. Will never go back to gas. Too much of a hassle going to gas stations, getting oil changes, tune-ups, brake jobs, etc., and crappy performance. My “gas station” is my garage. Also, gas cars are so much more expensive to operate. My current Teslas’ cost to “fill up” with electrons from completely empty at home is - Model Y: $7.50 (range 300+ miles); Model X: $10.00 (range 333 miles). At Superchargers: Model Y, $30.00 at $.40/kW; Model X, $0.00. Yep, that’s right - ZERO dollars. Why? Because I transferred my free unlimited Supercharging from my old Model S to my new Model X. And road trips? No problem! When I was snowbirding in FL from Mi, I’d drive the whole trip (1,170 miles) in 21.5 hours - less than a full day. And NO FUEL COST!! Autopilot makes driving that long a lot easier. Supercharger stops were used for bathroom and meal breaks. The cars fill up faster than I can get both of those done. For me, I’d have to be nuts to go back to a gas car!

I switched from a 2.4L Volvo Xc60, 3 months ago to a 2024 Model 3 LR. I’ve done 1500 miles a month and used a supercharger once, that was for 14.minutes, Leeds to Reading and back, stopped at Oxford . 400 miles. The trip cost me £23 I claimed back for the work trip £185 It’s cost me £22 a month for 1500 miles so for. No range anxiety at all, I can get Leeds to Manchester and back, Leeds around the East coast and back not even charging to 60%, in fact I usually only charge to 55% every night. Very happy so far.

I would love a Tesla M 3, Y or Kia EV6 but they are still out my budget

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

10 күн бұрын

A brand new vehicle may be expensive, but if a used one would fit, go pre-owned... the locomotion savings and a lot less maintenance are worth it IMO

@stephenmiller6690

10 күн бұрын

I sold my EV6 and bought a model Y. Very happy with my choice.

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

10 күн бұрын

@@stephenmiller6690 were you unhappy with the EV6?

@stephenmiller6690

10 күн бұрын

Actually I loved the EV6 but when the issues they are still having with charging began I bailed. After multiple failures to charge (level 2 at home) I said no more. They claimed they had a fix last year and are still issuing updates to try to finally get it right. All that being said the Tesla, especially the software, is so much better. So while loved the EV6 i just did not trust it anymore. Now add in the Supercharger network and can understand why I bought the model Y.

Ian, your pragmatist is eye-opening as usual. I love the way you put things in a nutshell. Epic Video.

I have an EV, and it's lovely, but there are things that bother me, I don't get range anxiety, I get charge anxiety, yes there are chargers everywhere, but will that charger I'm aiming at work? Will I have the right app? Will it accept my debit card? And they are too expensive for most people, yes you can lease them but I just checked a lease deal, basic model y for 2 years would be 10k, I don't know about your world but in my world most people can't afford to lose that much... Again don't get me wrong, my EV is the best car I've owned, it's also the most expensive, but right now, a lot of people just can't get one

@user-jb2om7cm8m

9 күн бұрын

That's the thing; the reason range is a non issue in IC cars is because you can stop anywhere and you're back on the road in minutes anyway- no need to plan anything, it's up to you exactly where and when you want to go, not the car. I wouldn't want an EV for free.

Also, imagine how much better for the environment it is taking all those petrol and diesel tankers off the road...

Very good point on servicing, interesting to see Tesla do not require expensive servicing to maintain warranty, be interesting to see how many will follow that.

The last time I bought petrol I couldn't get the Tesco Pay At Pump to work

Our Model Y is a bit like our grandson. You done know how amazing it is until you experience it.

Again brilliant video Ian

I'm still not sold on EVs until infrastructure is built up in cities....not practical in NYC ..the price of super charging is, if not more expensive than gasing up.

So with the average UK car trip under 10 miles you could. "Just Get a Bicycle". 😁

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

8 күн бұрын

You could. I'd like to see a person biking to a store. They could hitch a child carrier trailer and transport groceries. I hope they don't buy ice cream though. Or have to bike in inclement weather. Or uphill. Or all of the above 😅

Hello, I totally agree with you about the drive train. The electric drive train is so much better than the ICE drive train. Add the one petal driving, it is the best driving experience I have ever had and I am an old fart who has owned some really good ICE vehicles . I charge about 95% at home. I have a Tesla Model 3 RWD with the LFP battery, so I plug it in at night about 2 to 3 times a week depending on climate and how much driving I do and that's it. I wake up in the morning with 100% charged up car. All this without mentioning the environmental benefit driving a EV has compared to an ICE vehicle. I know that it hasn't had a positive result yet, and there is a good chance that it never will, and it is not a pure solution to a massive problem, but it is something and that is how good things get started.

Hi Ian, great video as always, what is wrapped around your front passenger seatbelt?

@justgetatesla

10 күн бұрын

A furry shoulder thing for my wife

@MrOliG5000

10 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have had my Model 3 Long Range for about 3 months now. I will never go back to an ice car. The Tesla charging network really sold it for me. Easier and cheaper than the other chargers. Had a Nissan Leaf before and got fed up with being ripped off by the cost of other chargers.

Great video loved it

Very enjoyable video as usual.

I'm a recovering tesla owner. I'm not concerned about ev (I had a Nissan leaf and Renault zoe before I had a model 3) and just swapped my 2021 Škoda Enyaq for a new one. My tesla ownership was terrible but it was down to rubbish build quality rather than the ev bits and the customer service was woeful. No way I would go back to fossil fuel though.

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

Sorry you had a bad experience. Tesla are cars - there’s always a lemon somewhere

if you can afford a £40,000 car, either outright or to lease, no-one gives an f what you do. What happens to the people who can only afford to buy and run/service cars in the £1-£2 range, it's these people we need to be considering moving forward. What does a £1k Tesla do? What will it look like? What year will this be? What will likely fail in that year? What is the cost of those repairs, if they can be repaired?

You should do a spoof video of what it would be like if petrol engines have just been invented (and we've grown up with evs)and trying to justify them😂

@justgetatesla

7 күн бұрын

What a brilliant idea!

Almost 1 year Chevy bolt ev, haven't had to use public charging yet. Great point about insurance, I'm going to consider that for my next ev, I'd rather have low insurance than neck-snapping acceleration. I would say - (hey) just get a bolt, if they currently existed because it's more of an every-person's car, if you want crazy performance and toys you're probably already buying a Tesla

I have an unusual concern about owning a Tesla. My current daily vehicle is a Jeep Wrangler. A couple years ago my wife and I bought a class c motor home and I spent time and money to be able to flat-tow the Jeep behind it while travelling on holiday. To the best of my research so far, a Tesla cannot be flat-towed. I would have to purchase a cargo trailer in order to take the Tesla with us when we travel in the RV.

Im helping my daughter deal with a kia bad engine claim after she had just made the last payments. It was caused by oil not circulating. I was thinking she should buy a toyota. But then i thought why not eliminate the gas engine. ;)

Mate just to be accurate the 0.5% APR for Tesla Model Y is for Hire Purchase or cash purchase not leasing..

@justgetatesla

3 күн бұрын

I confess. A period of time has occurred between the video being recorded and the video going out. The offer may have changed…

I would pay up to $10,000 for a Tesla model S ($2,000 used)

Tesla or Volvo? I love the overall package of the volvo but tesla charging and OTA are a bit irresistible. Help.

My decision tree is something like: 1. Do I need to tow something big relatively regularly (not a trailer to take to tip etc.) If yes, STOP 2. Can I charge at home? If Yes, BUY. If no then 3: 3. Can I charge locally at cheaper chargers relatively easily while I do something else (shopping, eating etc). If Yes, Buy 4. Otherwise CONSIDER anyway. It’s more nuanced of course, but this covers most scenarios.

Can't home charge. I don't think there is a bigger reason not to get one. I'm retired so no work chargers and there is no way in living hell I'd spend my time at poxy supermarket or low speed chargers. BUT, with all of that said, I still want to try a Tesla LR on a proper road trip 👍🏻

@wowbagger66

9 күн бұрын

It really isn’t a problem particularly if you gat a Tesla, unless you do a lot of long journeys you will probably only have to top up once a week at a supercharger which is quick and cheap and you can watch KZread or whatever while it charges.

@Richard_Barnes

9 күн бұрын

@@wowbagger66 yeah that’s a good point 👍🏻 I really don’t cover a lot of miles unless we’re going for a trip. I think I’m more bitter cus of the lack of incentives financially compared to EU and USA.

@wowbagger66

9 күн бұрын

@@Richard_Barnes Incentives are also disappearing in some parts of Europe, Germany recently got rid of theirs at least in part because about 20% of sales where from people buying cheap EVs in Germany and selling them in neighbouring countries for a profit.

I have just looked at the 'range 'of my first 5 cars, back in the 1960s the best range was 330 miles for a Vauxhall VX4/90. The lowest was under 250 miles. Nobody even mentioned Range Anxiety, we just filled up at a 'Garage' making sure it was before it closed for the night. Most closed at 6 pm. I seldom filled the fuel tank over 50%. Now even my cheaper EV has a range of over 200 miles, AND can be refuelled 24/7 .

@penponds

9 күн бұрын

Your EV can only be charged 24/7 if you’re co-located with a charger. And for the foreseeable future petrol stations will far outnumber charging stations.

@solentbum

8 күн бұрын

@@penponds I think you misunderstand my points which are of course purely personal .I live in the UK in a small town. At home my car is always next to a charge point and I can adjust my charging sessions to fit my needs. At present I only use low priced electric during the night, BUT, if I want I can fuel up at any time, only the price differs. When away from home, or if I did not have a home charge point I can use any of the public charge points in the UK , some 60000, or if visiting a friend their own charge point. Failing that I can use any 13amp three pin plug socket with my portable EVSE. Apart from a few isolated buidings mains electricity is available 24/7 almost everywhere I go, and the PAYG charge points are mostly 24/7 contactless payment or by 24/7 phone apps. I have 'filled up' at an isolated charge point after midnight in the middle of nowhere with no problems. The nearby petrol station was closed for the night. In the village where I lived as a child the local filling station (mile and a half away ) has closed now the nearest is three miles away. In the village where I lived 30 years ago three petrol stations have closed, the remaining one is daytime only . In the Town where I now live eight former petrol stations have now closed, leaving much reduced choice for the driver and putting them at risk of profit taking by the remaining Supermarkets. (Those supermarkets have or are installing EV charge points) There is often a queue at the pumps during main shopping hours. I suggest that the future is electric, at least for personal transport.

Agree with almost all of this, except - depreciation really is a valid thing that needs to be considered, regardless of whether you plan to sell your car anytime soon. It's the only way of assessing likely returns on investment over any given period. We've recently bought a 1 year old 5,000 mile Corsa e for £14k (list price 1 year ago, £31k, and cheaper now than petrol equivalents!!) I know it's no Tesla, but even our little Corsa e really shifts when you put your foot down. Now I'm thinking of buying a Tesla model 3 long-range, 3 years old, for around £20k. Am I right in thinking that the battery is covered under warranty for another 4 years or so, whether or not the car has been serviced?

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

As there is no service schedule to maintain, I can confirm that it is covered

Like many thousands of people my wife & I drive 8,000 to 10,000 miles a year. We have an Electric Citroën (so a very simple & cheap EV). You can buy a mint Citroën E-C4 for £12,000.... Our diesel bill dropped from £150/mth to £25/mth in electric. We have saved money by buying a second hand BEV. We charge it once per week while we sleep. On a long run (which we do occasionally) has been so ridiculously easy. Insurance on our Citroën is £435/yr Fully Comp. It is cheaper than all of my friends petrol car. We have a convertible banger... A Renault Megane which costs over £300 to insure whilst being valued at just £1,500.

Like many people, I have bought quite a few ICE cars, from BMWs, Hondas, Suzuki, Holden Commodores etc and driven many more make n models, SUVs to sedans. Then I figured what my next car should be. I got enough experience to know that if I buy the same ICE vehicle, I will have the same issues eg costly repairs, costly fuels and practically the same driving experience eg noise n gas smells.Life is short, why stay with the same crowds, same old, same old gas cars? So I bought my 1st Tesla M3 RWD. Very HAPPY! End of story.

Good video. Apart from the bird poo on the passenger window.

“How do manage charging, isn’t it a nightmare??” I drive a leaf and get on just fine. Glasgow up to Aberdeen and beyond without a problem. The Altens has very cheap charging btw 😊 30p. And I had no problems finding other public charging for the 2 weeks I spent working there recently. The council AC units were well placed where I needed them. To my surprise 2 young lads at the work site I was visiting had Zoes too, and they’re on pretty low wages.

I have a Renault Zoe ZE50 and was quoted £580 for a service by a main dealer! A bit of shopping around I found a local garage that was accredited to service EVs that would do the service and check for any software updates for £180. Why would you pay £400 extra??

I do not fully agree with you about what you said about servicing a Tesla. I own an 18-month old model Y performance and Tesla said it must be serviced every year. I was in Aberdeen the last time for servicing and looking forward to doing so again later this year.

@justgetatesla

7 күн бұрын

I’ve just clicked on owners manual on the app, then maintenance. The only annual anything is “clean and lubricate brake calipers”. And that is a recommendation.

The main thing that puts me off about EVs is the charging network. I have never had to worry about finding a petrol station any time I need one as there will be one in just about every town in the country - no planning required. As I understand it this is not the case with EV chargers. They are not available everywhere, especially away from motorways, which I avoid wherever possible. It does not seem to be obvious visually where a charging station might be as they don’t seem to be advertised on the roads the way petrol stations are and are usually not visible. In other words you have to know where they are located and plan which ones you want to use before you embark on a longer journey away from home. This will require you to have access to a smart phone and apps to locate charging stations and probably make payment as well. I don’t use a smart phone outside the house, don’t have a data package and have no intention of getting one as I hate the things. This makes use of an EV impossible. Even if I used a smart phone I certainly don’t want to have to go through any process that requires me to pre-plan where I am going to get a charge, probably with a backup then have to endure the concern about actually finding one that is available and working, then have to worry about getting it to work and make payment through various apps and I do not want to sit around for an hour charging up - I want to be on my way. I recently drove down into Austria after docking at Amsterdam, a total journey of just under 600 miles. I only had to stop for fuel at the end of that journey. In an EV that might have required three charging stops. Of course I didn’t drive the 600 miles in one go and had to take comfort breaks but they only last 10 minutes every 200 miles or so. I don’t need or want to eat or drink en route.

@DavidEmeryVirtechs

9 күн бұрын

In a Tesla you enter your destination in the SatNav. It will find the supercharger(s) you'll need to stop at. It will tell you your ETA, the charge %age on arrival, how long you need to stop for and how many charging bays are free. On arrival, plug in the cable, charge for the shortest time required, unplug the cable and drive away. The charger knows your car and automatically bills your account. See my comments elsewhere on the video that my last long journey of 370+ miles needed one 12-minute stop at a Tesla Supercharger to complete my journey. One key point - 'empty' batteries recharge faster than 'full' batteries, so just put your faith in the car/satnav/supercharger and it will make sure you're stopped for the minimum total time. Hope this helps.

Great "unbiased" review. LOL

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! And then commenting so that I can reply and like your comment! Really helps the algorithm promote my content

Love my Tesla, but I’m having to go in for a fault (each one a separate one) for the FOURTH time in the last 8 months. Not great. What’s worse is the repair experience. Poor waiting rooms, not set up for working, no free courtesy cars. This is where Tesla severely lets itself down versus other manufacturers

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

The only saving grace is that I have had the same kind of experience at big posh brands like BMW, with a vast bill at the end to pay for the aggro

For most people with a driveway an EV is far cheaper than a ICE car to run. But that’s the rub, poorer people and people without a driveway are subject to dramatic electricity price discrimination.

@wowbagger66

9 күн бұрын

I am paying around 35 pence per KWh using Tesla chargers so only a little more expensive than most people’s standard home tariff and still far cheaper per mile than an equivalent ICE car.

Does the sun ever shine in that country?

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

All the time!

Is it worth getting FSD?

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

In the UK there is no FSD to get

@funkanic06

8 күн бұрын

@@justgetatesla I have seen cars with full self driving installed

What is the likely impact on the cost of home charging if many more millions of EVs were on the roads of the UK right now? EV cheap tariffs are based on low demand for electricity overnight but when that demand increases and becomes similar to or as much as demand during the day it's seems obvious the charges will increase in order to provide that electricity. Perhaps much nearer to normal daytime rates. And of course this is based on the assumption that we can find some way of generating significantly more electricity to meet that demand than we currently do. To date no political party has a coherent plan to deliver this huge increase in generating capacity, how to distribute it, nor how to achieve so-called net zero. More importantly no money to do it either and even if they had it would take decades to achieve. Of course the need for extra revenue to fund this expansion in generating capacity must come from someone and the government's change to road tax on EVs next year is merely the start. As the tax take from petrol and diesel vehicles falls it seems certain more and new taxes will be added to electricity charges for people who use it to charge their E.V. either at home or on public chargers. The cost of charging an EV at home at an artificially low price is clearly going to come slowly but surely to an end.

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

8 күн бұрын

I think if all passenger vehicles were to become EVs overnight (in any country), consider what would happen to the price of gasoline or diesel... nothing happens overnight, so while some concepts can be considered in theory, they would rarely happen in real life. This is where time is on our side -- we see where things are headed and why, and we have the luxury of figuring out "Should we be changing course? What problems are we likely to encounter if we stay the course? Do we have solutions? If so, let's implement them; if not, let's come up with some" I am an engineer, so not only do I identify potential pitfalls, I also look for solutions. Do I have answers today? No. Does that mean I should stop looking for them or inventing them? Also no. I have not needed to send a fax in decades. I saw stationary phones lose market share. Progress does not happen overnight but it is inevitable. We can sit around lamenting the state of things, or we can do something about said state of things. I know which side I'm on.

Avonmouth docks near Bristol has loads of unsold ev's parked there. Buy or lease an ev without knowing its true age ? Yes batteries age each year even if you don't use them and your battery will drop by 5% in the first 12 to 18 months. Rapid charging degrades a Lithium battery faster. You have an 8 year battery warranty that guarantees 70% capacity up to 60 to 100k miles. Many ev's will drop 10 tp 20% capacity by the 8 year mark or why would manufacturers state this ? There isn't sufficient data to say how long an ev battery will last and VW won't tell you the cost of a replacement battery unless you need one but no VW ev is 8 years old yet. Technology is moving so fast an ev today will look like Fred Flintstones car compared to one in 5 years.

@justgetatesla

7 күн бұрын

Most of this is just FUD, you do know that, surely?

@RB-lt8kt

6 күн бұрын

@@justgetatesla I have passed Avonmouth docks loads of times recently and there are so many cars there and loads of EV's. The science doesn't lie so perhaps read more than just what Tesla or Quentin Wilson tell you. Asking several neighbours and myself why they sold their electric cars or didn't lease another one is quite telling. One neighbour lost £20k on his EV Mercedes. Ring VW and ask the cost to replace a battery yourself. Electric cars make sense for local driving but only if they cost £10k and you don't do more than 100 miles as well as realising you might have to throw it away. Even Teslas do less miles in winter and new LFP batteries aren't as energy dense but ultimately all batteries fail in time.

We need to stop thinking about EVs as a separate breed of car. They are just cars. Different fuel source than what has been usual for the last several generations but that's all. A car is a car, they are useful tools for most of us.

@user-jb2om7cm8m

9 күн бұрын

To me a car is something that goes wherever I want it to go, whenever I want to go. I can also leave it wherever I want for as long as I want. A car that tells me where and when I need to go completely defeats the purpose- for most people that's a liability not a convenience.

Refreshing video after watching all the EV hater channels… so much misinformation in KZread… just the other day a coworker was asking me about my Model 3 and said how far can you go with it… my answer was how far do u drive every day? She said about 8 miles a day… so Sometimes on the weekend I drive 100 or 159… I said a Tesla is the perfect car… she said I don’t want a Tesla… I said good luck but you might run into a charging problem if your taking a long trip… so tired of telling people about EV… Now I just say to them an EV is probably not for you if u know nothing about them…

The main detraction re getting a Tesla is Elon Musk and how the business treats its employees… very off putting; and yet… I still would love one. Maybe getting a used one would assuage my guilt a bit…

I believe that any example related to electric vehicles (EVs) should consider individuals living in urban areas with on-street parking. Eventually, they will comprise the majority of EV owners.

@wowbagger66

10 күн бұрын

I did about 160,000 miles in a Renault Zoe and Tesla model Y without being able to charge at home, it is more difficult to only use public chargers but it is perfectly possible.

@PeterWroblewski-xv9br

10 күн бұрын

@@wowbagger66 I charged at a Supercharger for most of the first year of ownership of a Model Y (did not have all the needed infrastructure at home); not only was it possible, it was still boatloads cheaper than gas / petrol; worth the "inconvenience" and then some; today the car gets charged overnight with a level 2 charger a few times a week; the "investment" was way cheaper and simpler than most people imagine, in part because there was no need for an electrician

@mattthomas6734

10 күн бұрын

@issiewissie, hi that’s us. We can’t even park outside our house. An EV as our only car since late 2022. We’ve only ever charged on public chargers, mainly Chargeplace Scotland. Yeah, it costs more to charge than it would charging on a domestic tariff, but still way cheaper than running an ICE car. As a bonus, it is so much less tiring to drive on long journeys than any of our previous cars. Cheers.

15.44 It is not more efficient to charge a battery or drive an electric motor from a petrol generator than driving the wheels directly. If you think that then you failed physics at school. You still have the same inherent losses in the petrol engine, the same drivetrain losses but now you've introduced more losses from the electric motor and battery charging. No matter how much more you can keep the petrol engine in it's efficiency band you're not going to recover that 15 - 20% of additional losses - because of regen you will be better than a non-hybrid but Toyota's normal inline hybrids are actually more efficient than Nissan's weird ePower. Do not buy an ePower vehicle - it's a con. Just buy a Tesla. 😂

1. for the range.. a change of lifestyle is needed if u dont have a home charger (need to spend at least 30 mins finding a charger to charge the car per week instead of on the way n fill it up) 2. depreciation value.. the moment u sign the paper to own EV.. u already lost the value.. unless u are keeping the car until u die.. and when u do sell it, u are going to lose alot 3. insurance.. lemme put this straight, most of the insurance company will scrap yr car because of an small accidents because the cost of fixing it is more than the value of the car (after depreciation) 4. service.. yes there is minimal service cost for an EV.. but tell me again when yr stuff break down after the warranty ends or if its self-incurred damages.. make a video again after 10 years with yr current EV n lets see if u still keeping it.. EV is not for everybody.. let the market choose what they want.. if i could afford a 2nd car it would definitely be an EV but i couldnt so i stayed with my old ICE car

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

1. People do have EVs with no home charger, but I appreciate it’s harder 2. All cars depreciate. Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. My Volvo diesel collapsed in value, that wasn’t the same as me then saying all diesels have the same 3. Most insurance companies do nothing of the sort. You’ve believed the FUD 4. Way less parts to break

refuelling up in the service i go in get my petrol pay the woman or man, and then I'm back on the road. It takes practically no time where you would have to go to the charger set it up and then have to go back an hour or so later, nah ill stick to petrol

@garywebster6453

9 күн бұрын

So we went from Bristol to leeds, grabbed breakfast and car charged for 30 mins, drove to leeds, on way back took 15 min toilet break and charged for that time, whole trip was about 20 quid, against 70 to 80 in my previous petrol car. I'll stick with the ev.

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

And if you needed a fuel stop you actually lose time doing that…

I wanted to get a tesla, and they were some good incentives to get one, especially when the government wanted to push us all towards Evs but now, from what ive heard, its going to cost Ev drivers road tax, more that my current car of 35 quid per year. And also if your Ev isnt over 5 years old and costs over 40k new which most evs do then your going to have to pay that luxery car tax on top, do the governent want us in evs or not

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

The Tories don’t want us to have food, never mind EVs

@michaelcrump215

8 күн бұрын

@justgetatesla I know right! It's like one minute they want you in evs, and then bam they now gonna hit you with road tax and luxery car tax, Shame because I would have gone ev, I really wanted a tesla, but to expensive to run now with the taxes and the higher insurance costs, so I'll go for another ice car

I live with two. Tesla Model Y and Kia ENiro. Both excellent and give the same mileage. No issues for me as 90 % of my trips are within range

'The beauty of an ev is that it charges while you are sleeping'. I counter that by saying the beauty of an 'ice' car is that you can fuel up in less that 5 minutes and be on your way. There is no 'beauty' about an ev. And why would anyone spend £1000s more than the price of an equivalent 'ice' car just to save a few pennies on charging? The whole concept is ridiculous. And why does anyone of advancing years like me (at 71) give a stuff what the planet is going to be like in 20+ years? Most of us won't be on it - we will be under it.

@justgetatesla

8 күн бұрын

Surely the lesson of life is to learn that your needs are not necessarily the needs of other people…

Tesla aspirational?!?! Maybe 5 years ago. Even Elon is refocusing his giant brain elsewhere. Now, considering an EV, especially a ridiculously over-powered one with built in, guaranteed battery obsolescence, unless you do low miles, don’t tow, and won’t want to park in multi-Storey’s or apartment building underground garages where they’ll soon be banned, would be madness.

@justgetatesla

4 күн бұрын

They won’t be banned. To suggest such a thing based on FUD is madness

Not sure I agree that practically everyone could use an EV. A lot of people don't have the ability to charge at home overnight, and may not have low cost charging options near to home. I do have a 7kwh charger at home so my driving life with a Model Y long range is easy.

@penponds

9 күн бұрын

Preaching to the choir, where the choristers mistake “real-world pragmatism” for a shared rose-tinted view of the world. EVs have seen their high water mark, at least for next 20 yrs. Hybrids will be the most sensible option if you really must have a HV battery in your vehicle.

@AdrianHilder

8 күн бұрын

​@@penponds market share of 100% battery electric vehicles is still rising, especially in China where even in the cities they have built out practical charging options for people with no private driveway. Norway is where the world's greatest adoption of EVs is as a percentage of the population. Most seem to have private driveway or garage space to do this. Don't be fooled by the anti-EV propaganda spread by we think oil companies and legacy car manufacturers like Toyota who cannot bear to let go of their internal combustion engine expertise and manufacturing skill.base and infrastructure. EVs don't cover all use cases yet, though. I would not want to tow say a caravan any meaningful distance with an EV. I doubt 100% battery EV is the answer, but those who need or insist on sticking with petrol electric hybrids better hope that as many as possible move to full BEVs to make the remaining economically viable to extract oil last.