I’ve seen a few comments bringing up this point, and it’s on me for not clarifying better, but I’ll do it now. Coordinated and DoT attacks are not based around summons or marks. It’s how the ability itself does damage. Does it require another action to trigger the attack, or can it deal damage on its own? Marks and summons *can both* be considered DoT. So things like Charlotte’s Skill, Hu Tao’s Blood Blossom, Yae’s turrets. Those are all DoTs. With that being said, marks and summons *can* be coordinated attacks. So Nahida’s Skanda, Albedo’s Skill, or Yoimiya’s Burst mark, are all under the coordinated attack category, since they require some sort of external trigger. Hopefully this clears up the misconception. When I cover characters that specialize in follow-up and DoT, this idea should get established a bit further.

@nuzlocke2266

27 күн бұрын

Do the opposite. What if Genshin characters were in Honkai?

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@nuzlocke2266 Im trying to do that soon

I love how your videos are basically how my Imagination works but with infinitely more thorough reflection I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE TRAILBLAZER

@spiderninja_1

27 күн бұрын

My mind goes crazy sometimes with these ideas lmao. Typing and laying it out in a doc really helps me organize everything!

Finally someone did this and I'm so glad it was you. I feel like follow up atks can be unique enough and not just a Xingqiu/Yelan burst all the time. It would be cool if Kafka's follow up atk would activate anytime she takes the field something similar to Candace Burst but not for the whole team just herself. I feel like it should be a cooldown passive instead of being tied to her burst or skill.

I think DoTs should be less like Guoba or Yae’s turrets and instead be more like Chalotte’s skill. They function similarly but Charlotte (Despite dealing negative damage) feels much more like a DoT, and I’d even argue that follow ups like Lightning Lord and Numby fit the off field summon skill better.

@spiderninja_1

27 күн бұрын

For my concepts, DoTs aren’t going to be based around summons vs marks. It’s just any ability that deals damage without some sort of external help. Charlotte’s Skill, Guoba, Yae Turrets, Hu Tao’s Blood Blossoms. Some are marks, some are summons, but these are all DoT since it’s a “set it and forget it” type of ability. On the other end, even if Nahida’s Skill is a mark, it’s technically a coordinated attack due to it needing a reaction to trigger, aka external help. Hopefully this kind of clarifies it. Although, you do bring up a good point about Lightning Lord and Numby, since they’d fall under a weird middle ground in a Genshin setting. I’ll have to get creative when I look at their redesigns lol

@DG_Toti

27 күн бұрын

@@spiderninja_1 i feel like lightning lord or numby work more like xingqiu and yelan’s bursts considering they’re basically follow-up attacks

@DG_Toti

27 күн бұрын

In fact i feel like topaz deliberately attacking after another ally would make her a great burgeon support; apply dendro, use someone like xingqiu or yelan to trigger bloom, and that hydro trigger summons numby to detonate the bloom cores

@LordBanana0

26 күн бұрын

@@spiderninja_1 lightning lord could work similarly to eula ult where you gotta stack it before the big burst of damage

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@spiderninja_1 I do like your logic but for me i can't really see Guoba as a DoT mostly because he seems so much like Numby's follow up attacks and he has a face but thats just my opinion.

Now I wonder how genshin chars could look like in HSR I think Kazuha would be a Wind Erudition (of Nihility) unit, Yoimiya wouild be a Fire Hunt unit, Zhongli - Imaginary Preservation and etc.

@stardust9470

27 күн бұрын

Qiqi would be an Abundance that heals a shit ton and debuffs enemies, I like the idea of freezing or making her ult similar to Gallagher's ult,debuffing the enemies and healing allies when they attack them Keqing would be Hunt due to the flavor of being fast and self action advance working well with her skill,that can be casted once to mark and a second time to tp Kazuha feels like a Harmony that has some RES PEN in the mix,but its tied to action order,like if Kazuha is before a Quantum he gives Quantum RES PEN and if you use Sparkle's skill it changes because she didn't attack

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@stardust9470 I personally somewhat somehow see Keqing as erudition with her long range ultimate and her plunge attack that feels like a burst type of attack with the sword being the main damage and the shockwave being the sides. It could be a debuff that could also advance her next turn which youll have your enhanced basic and skill as I'M pretty sure you can charge attack with her Stilleto mark for a aoe. Kazuha personally feels like a erudition break character to me becuse of the fact that elemental reactions and break are converted to eachother and kazuha can yes debuff but also make reaction easier. I don't know its not like I'm planing to make a genshin into honkai series myself i dont know what your talking about...

Would be really interesting seeing how you would do character that could really only work in a turn based game, Sparkle, Bronya, Qingque (I guess), and others. I've also kinda though abt how genshin characters would work in HSR, how would character that would only really work in a open world game work in a turn based one

@pancrepe5576

25 күн бұрын

I'm guessing Bronya and Sparkle would have an instant switch ability that skips the character switching cooldown, and Sparkle would reduce skill and ultimate cooldowns. Qingque could have a skill that could still have a skill point system that she needs to manage by using basic attacks to replenish them.

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@pancrepe5576 I would personally think that Qingque would work like Lyney with his little counter after charged attacks

I never subscribe before there 2-3 videos to be sure that I like where the content is going, but you sold me the idea with just this one... don't dissapoint me.

@spiderninja_1

27 күн бұрын

Lol I’ll try my best. In the meantime, I have a bunch of other Genshin concept videos for you to check out. Hopefully one catches your eye :)

Im still struggling to figure out if Seele would be Hydro for the Sea of Quanta, Cryo for freezing time or Electro because she’s purple

@bilkhr

27 күн бұрын

Electro suits her lorewise imo

@sclom5676

27 күн бұрын

I mean my immediate first thought is that she is gonna fit in in the Keqing/Chlorinde type of role, and be a quicken carry, doesn't seem that interesting for me but this guy always blindsides me with cool ideas I never would have thought of so idk.

@silverhawkscape2677

27 күн бұрын

​@@bilkhr Is it because of what we see from Electro Characters? We know Hoyo designs there Personalities in a way that synegizes with the Element.

@bilkhr

25 күн бұрын

@silverhawkscape2677 from my theory, electro is for people who have a strong desire to protect something important for them. Seele seems fitting with her strong love for her city

I can’t wait for the next episode of this series! I expected the DoT characters to be ‘mark’ based characters, like Nahida’s skill, and Mona’s omen. But summons make 100% more sense. Also, maybe you can include a special aimed shot in a few kits? Like, March 7th’s FuA could be a weird fusion of Beidou’s parry, and Yoimiya’s special aimed shot that nobody uses. But that’s just a suggestion.

@silverhawkscape2677

27 күн бұрын

Everytime a Shielded character is hit March Launches a Homing Frost Attack.

@NatWarrior1

27 күн бұрын

Tbf he did say anything without any external help so they don't have to be turrets and the marks can also count as a form of DoT too!

My friend and I were just talking about how Hook would be so fun in Genshin and Klee would be OP in Star Rail! Can't wait for this series! I love your ideas!!!

i love all the concepts in your videos

Very impressive and in-depth video

What if they take inspo from bronya in HSR and make the cryo archon work similarly to her. CR is at 100% and she scales off of CD and provides lots of cryo app

Catalyst aventurine would still be a great addition along with ninnguang as geo catalyst

Woahh I'm glad to see you're doing some HSR content now x) maybe in the future you'll be able to make Travelers into Trailblazers!

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

Im personally planning on doing that actually...

Already made 2 HSR expys for genshin myself being Welt and Kafka so i defo wanna see what you have in mind for converting Kafkas Dot based playstyle to Genshin What i personally found fitting for a character like Kafka is seeing her lightning dot more as an analogy to an applied electro aura thus in my itaration she deals bonus dmg to enemies with an electro aura (which leaves her playstyles upen for combinations while still being viable in a "monoelectro" team

​Coordinated attack in genshin is more like Robin's ult and tingyun's talent, they both do damage when the active character attack but not necessarily a follow up attack. Follow up attack in HSR is just an attack done out of the turn order, some may be done automatically, but there are some that can be done at will. No such thing as turn order exist at genshin so it's open to interpretation Also, about DoT, I think making them a mark that does damage on its own at interval would work. If you insist on making summon's like yae's skill and guoba a dot, then how does kafka even work?

@sclom5676

27 күн бұрын

I imagine kafka is going to make turrets and marks both go crazy, he already stated under another comment that things like Blood Blossom and Charolette's skill is gonna be consider DOT's, basically anything that does damage in certain intervals no matter what.

transition from blade to lyney at 2:27 was genius i love it

@spiderninja_1

26 күн бұрын

Always brings me joy when someone notices the small edits and transitions I make!

You may consider tranlate speed into atk speed. Because its a offensive stat( but in this case we would have the problem that is: dot unita like a lot o speed to apply dots, so in acordance with your system and mine, dots units wouldn't use neither movement or atk speed).

This will be nice to watch though if i do use this for my project I need to flip numbers and do a lot of converting on my own 😅

U should pick a hsr character and make them a genshin kit. Im lowkey curious about this now lmao

My idea for an adaptation done the other way around. Qiqi Ice Abundance Basic:does Ice DMG based on ATK Skill: Qiqi summons an aura that heals allies by 20% of Qiqi's ATK+150 on activation and 5% of Qiqi's ATK+30 on the start of their turns for 2 turns Ult: Cost 140 Qiqi attacks all enemies with an ice wave dealing 200% of Qiqi's attack. This ice wave has 50% base chance of freezing them and will activate all talismans they have(or mark them with one if they don't have any) Talent: If enemies marked by Qiqi's talisman are hit by an ally,this talisman is activated. When allies attack enemies with an activated talisman,they gain Qiqi's skill's effects Major Trace 1: Qiqi has 50% base chance of marking enemies with a talisman on her basic attack. If Qiqi would put a talisman on an enemy who already has one,she'll put it on an adjacent target instead Major Trace 2: Qiqi's skill buffs allies' damage by 10% while they have its effects Major Trace 3: Increases Qiqi's Outgoing Healing Boost by 5% for every 100 ATK over 2,000 she has(rounded down),up to 50% (Talismans are debuffs and activating them counts as a separate instance of a debuff Signature LC Higher base ATK medium base HP lower base DEF Gains ATK%.When attacking a debuffed enemy,they gain 2~5 energy. The wearer gains 15~30% Effect Hit Rate if their attack is 3000 or higher

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

I did that too but the heal to one ally and because i made it before Gallagher i didn't think the Talismans ha to be a talent

@stardust9470

23 күн бұрын

@@JustStuff-sz2uu If you make talismans more straight forward like cast to apply(like Gallagher's case) you can describe it on the ult/skill. But since I made it the way I did,it wouldn't really work because they aren't necessarily attached to the ult/technique(?) like Gallagher's Besotted is,but the main reason is to avoid bloat and because I didn't really have much material to work with,if this wasn't on the talent I'd have to make up 2 traces instead of 1(but still forgot the cleanse smh)

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@stardust9470 Isn't it unlike Gallaghers case because for Gallagher and your Qiqi the special debuff is the talent while I incorrectly put it on the ultimate even though I did do A Glimpse Into Arcanum as a major Trace

I love your Unit 2.0 series for Genshin. Would you consider doing a rework for a character who is overtuned and make them more balanced with Genshin's roster now. For example, a rework of Bennett or Xiangling where you don't necessarily nerf them but give them a power budget and kit more closely suited for 4-stars?

@spiderninja_1

25 күн бұрын

I looked into that idea lol. A little spoof version of the series. Something like a Unit “2.0” or Unit 0.5 XD

Exited for this concept, I've got a few questions about some mechanics. How are you gonna deal with sp? You have units who directly add sp, and also DHIL who eats it up. The other mechanic I am very unsure about is action advance, it has a very different place in the game than regular speed buffs do, and nothing really jumps to mind for what it could turn into. Maybe cd reset?

@spiderninja_1

26 күн бұрын

This is something I briefly thought about, but I have no concrete ideas yet. Off the top of my head, Skill Points and Action Advances are both going to be cooldown-related. Main thing is figuring out if/how I would differentiate the two. But if all else fails, wild card is an option lol

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@spiderninja_1 i feel that sometimes action advance could be manual swap like chiori and reduce skill cooldown depending on the advance so 100% action advance will be a manual swap and completely recharc the skill.

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nice

I think Sparkle should be a claymore

Sounds like an interesting idea that does what a lot of mihoyo players want to do! This is the Dan Heng IL I made after watching this. Probably too strong (he is hydro dragon after all), but hopefully this would be similar to what you intend to make. Dan Heng Imbibitor Lunae (Hydro Polearm lvl 90) HP:13031 ATK:314 DEF:526 Beneficent Lotus (Normal ATK, lvl 10): 5-hit combo (85%/95%/110%/60%+60%/65%+65%), the last 2 hits have larger AoEs. 1/2/3 stacks of Enhancements allow normal attacks to deal 260%/380%/500% of its original damage. Dracore Libre (Skill, lvl 10): Cooldown 18 seconds. Tap to gain 1 Enhancement (max 3 stacks, last 10 seconds). For each 2 seconds you hold, gain 1 extra Enhancement. Enhancements are lost after using skill again or leaving the field, alongside all Outroar and Righteous Heart stacks. While having Enhancement, gain resistance to interruption; For every 4-hit and 5-hit of normal attack, gain 1 Outroar (+12 CD, max 4 stacks, last 6 seconds); Gain 1 Righteous Heart (10% hydro damage bonus, max 6 stacks, last 4 seconds) after each normal attack hit. Azure's Aqua Ablutes All (Burst, lvl 10): 90 energy, cooldown 22 seconds. Deal 475% ATK as AoE hydro damage and obtain 2 Squama Sacrosancta (max 3 stacks, last 20 seconds). When using skill, each Squama Sacrosancta reduces the charging time of skill by 1.2 seconds. Star Veil (1st Ascension Passive): After using burst, gain 15 energy. Jolt Anew (4th Ascension Passive): When a hydro-related reaction is triggered, gain 24% hydro damage bonus for 6 seconds.

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

I like this a lot though i think the skill could work with the skill charges like xiao with the Squama Sacrosancta giving one of those stacks for a more clean conversion and also have the skill time be longer. Don't take this as hate though this is a very nice and thorough move set for Imbibitor Lunae

we already have March 7th, her name is Diona

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

Diona has healing though while march has a lot of attack

@liatrisblossomheart4013

23 күн бұрын

@@JustStuff-sz2uu march has debuff cleansing and debuffs aren't exactly a thing in genshin so healing would be a good translation

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@liatrisblossomheart4013 yeah there really arent that many debuff in genshin especially from enemies but it could be cool to see her cleansing the element off. What do you think?

@liatrisblossomheart4013

23 күн бұрын

@@JustStuff-sz2uu march's debuff cleanse is kind of a HUGE feature of her kit, so making it straight up healing works. honestly the only alternative i can think of is having her skill "cleanse" or clear bonds of life for teammates which is a super niche use that limits her potential I tihnk

@JustStuff-sz2uu

23 күн бұрын

@@liatrisblossomheart4013 I think I stated my idea wrong because what I ment was for the cleanse to take off the element that you are inflicted with like if you are on fire she would take that off or if you are wet she would remove that and maybe even stuff like burning. Though healing always works too