This is a more lucid and focused review of this important factor than most motorcycle magazines can deliver. Good work, man

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comments man I appreciate you and hope this helped!

@WarriorsPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I agree and this is helpful.

Thank you for making this video, info is harder to come by than you would expect.

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Low Lander literally my issue when I was debating a Ducati. No one talks about the money it costs. Glad I can help you out

@generalwill10

4 жыл бұрын

For real

I am riding a 2018 monster 1200S. The cost 8000 miles is 0,50 ct. overall per mile including gas, service, insurance and depreciation. The fun is worth the purchase. Never boring. Beefey torque, great cornering and comfortable seating. Addictive engine sound Go get one.

Legend. going through with picking out a new ducati i sat on 1200 connected straight away theirs alot of scary rumors out their good to see you put effort in making the video for us all.

I been wanting a Diavel but always heard how expensive ducati is to own but after seeing your breakdown of ownership I'll look into it again haha I'm excited!!

Greatly informative and thank you for this upload!!

Great info and a very good video. It was very informative and I appreciate it. It gave me a good idea on what I can expect after getting my bike. Thank you so very much.

Awesome video, I just picked up a 2014 monster 1200, same bike just 2 years old and I love it!

Thank you for your very practical and honest assessment! Have owned several Ducatis over many years and not for the feint of heart if expecting cheap transportation. But what high performance car or motorcycle is? That said, Ducati at this moment are arguably the best overall, race, sport and adventure bikes built and Ducati have really paid their dues to get where they are today through r&d. Most Ducatisti I know enthusiastically work on their own bikes, me included and actually the desmo valve actuation system once understood is very simple to work on....cam belt replacement too a piece of cake. Wonderful bikes and an Africa Twin owner I know says doing a simple valve clearance check requires about a days worth of removing and replacing a whole lot of stuff which I've yet to encounter doing the same on a Duc. Plus this new high torque and horse power V4 cam chain/non Desmo generation engine with very long maintenance intervals will add a whole new and reliable dimension with Duc ownership and ride-ability surpassing what Ducati has already achieved.

Good honest video man. Appreciate your effort in doing this video. 👍🏼

thanks for your honest review.....one of my favorite bikes

Awesome video. Planning to get a Ducati Diavel pre owned. I had a Harley but I guess it will a diff. experience owning a Ducati. I rented one time it was a blast

I have a 2015 Monster 821. If I put 700 miles in a year that is a lot for me, so I guess my cost of ownership is going to be a lot less, especially since I do my own maintenance. It'll be awhile before I get to the big service unless I sell bike before then. Get the shop manual for your Monster and do the maintenance yourself, fun and saves a ton of cash, plus you learn something in the mean time.

@yamkaw346

Жыл бұрын

Lol you’re just loosing money in depreciation and not even enjoying it

Great honest review of ownership, I’m riding my sons 696 monster , 11 yrs old , he has changed the belts twice since owning , and is due soon it’s valve clearance check , will let you no how that goes , the bikes been ridden hard and nothing has gone wrong except a new battery , and replaced tyres ,cheers shane uk 🇬🇧

@Spartansrule118

2 жыл бұрын

How’d it go Shane?

Going this Saturday for a pealr white 1200s thank you for the video

I ran a breakers for bikes. When we folded the business we had a load of engines left. All the bikes were there and we had as many Ducati engines in really good condition. We had st3, 900ss, 748s, 750ss, 916, these were there because we couldn't sell them. So much for Ducati being unreliable.

Hey bro this is was a real good introduction to a Ducati I just bought a 2011 1198 sp

@BlackGirafe100

5 жыл бұрын

DUCATI DON lane good luck and ride safe dude!

Solid review,,great opinion,,it should clear my mind after all,,well done,,

Love that you ride the crap out of it. I got the same bike and hardly put 1k miles in one year so hopefully things are looking good.

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

PR KING thanks for the love! I got 17k miles now. But now I barely ride ride. I ride maybe twice a month after graduating college

Great info! Well delivered. Thanks

thank u so much for this brother,it really help me

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

lucc glad i can help

Very informative. Thank you!

Excellent & informative video 👍

thank you so much i needed to see this.

Got to test ride a panigale v4s and fell in love with it instantly, the bike just spoke to me yknow? Only problem is I don't think I can stomach 28k for the S model, I might have to just stick with the base v4, what do you think?

great video and info !! seriously hardly people talk about the actual figures....im planing to get a monster 821 =)

Sounds right what you say.....thanks. I have a Hypermotard 1100 cc from 2008.

Hey man, what can you say about 796? Planning on getting one but Im afraid about the costs and maintenance. Was thinking about 821 but 796 looks better imo.

I just saw this. Monster 1200 is one of my absolute favourites it’s dream bike material I’d say and it’s hell expensive here in Malaysia. I had a monster 795 and yes that one costs a lot to maintain but it is reliable as a Japanese bike. Actually more reliable than my gixxer haha. Good video is love to see what it looks like now.

@BlackGirafe100

Жыл бұрын

Still looks the same! It’s mainly garage art to me now!

@RUBBERNMETAL

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackGirafe100 awesome good to hear you still have it. I tested a monster 1200s in white once before and should’ve taken more time to appreciate it better. The new one is overall better but it’s just not the same.

Great video and information. Looking to buy the Monster 1200R.

The only issue I’ve had on my 1200r is I lost all brake pressure in the rear brake, tried bleeding it to no avail, I read on a blog that ducati is recalling certain models for rear brake issues. Taking it in soon to get checked. Other than that the bike has been flawless

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

Common issue, there’s a plastic hose that melts under head. Ducati just issued me a recall for that finally. I had the same problem, had to pay out of pocket to fix but I’m happy they finally issued a recall

@slycat67

10 ай бұрын

Same

Great video! nice to see some quality content, maybe start thinking about riding video's!?

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Jasper Houben thought about it man! Had my helmet all set up for it, but I finished school and no longer ride everyday so I wouldn’t have the riding vids to make anyMore

$350 for the 600mi break-in service, $350 for the standard service, and $1500 for the major service is not bad at all since the intervals are decently long. I do appreciate the sticker vs. out-the-door cost. I didn't realize $10,500 becomes $14,200 after all the extra fees are applied. I wonder how the V2 and V4 Panigales compare to the Monster for maintenance costs.

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Adam-Wade interest, tax, dmv bs fees, and I threw in my 900 exhaust into that since it barely changed my monthly. My tax rate is 7.75% where I live

As far as older Ducatis go learn to do your own service work and it will save you tons. I have a 2002 Monster S4. When you first buy the bike (if this is your first one) set aside money for front/rear stands, a torque wrench, and other tools. Older ducks do cost more to operate because the valve adjustment intervals are shorter compared to the newer models. Mine is every 6000 miles. When that time comes EMS Ducati has a valve adjustment kit you can rent for $500 and upon returning the kit, $400 (minus valve shims used @ $9 per) is refunded. Way way cheaper than a dealer.

Probably the most real video about ownership. If you're not in a position to purchase a nice thing and maintain it, you shouldn't have that thing.

Perhaps a stupid question: how difficult is the valve service? I've had cars with mechanical lifters and always did it myself.

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

No idea man, if you’re mechanically inclined you might be able to do it

Good review!

Finally someone honest and transparent

My 2 former ducatis, a 1991 900ss. Which broke at 195.000 miles , crank bearing , was a wonderful bike . traded for a 2001 ST. 2. At 196.000 . put 197.000 miles on the ST. until a transmission bearing failed . learn to service your bike yourself! !

$262/month for a freakin’ Monster 1200!?!? That’s what I pay now for my new 2019 Monster 821! That’s an awesome and very manageable financial setup you have for that bike. It must be a used pre-2017 model with the old LCD screen??

Great job explaining the cost of owning a Ducati. Me personally I just bought a 1199S Panigale with 8,000 miles. Owned it a couple months now. Had no reason to think about the oil so I went on a group ride last weekend and ran out of oil causing internal damage. 😢 Not sure what direction to go just yet, I'm leaning towards a used engine assembly with low miles. Either way it's not going to be cheap. Really disappointing to say the least but a learning lesson to check the oil . I'm also in California, Santa Barbara to be exact. Anyway, great video man. Ride safe

@BlackGirafe100

7 ай бұрын

Jesus no way man? I’m so sorry. Idk how the market is but if there’s a used motor out there go that route, but man that’s the most important thing 😅 best of luck and ride safe man

Driven over 200k miles in past 6 years, all over the west coast, 20 plus trips San Diego to Washington since 2017. CA drivers, especially socal where I'm from (sd), are much better drivers than literally anywhere else. Also spent 5 years in Hawaii and they are much worse drivers than CA IMO. Anyways great video. I'm going to wait until I can afford to buy a top of the line Ducati outright and then know I can afford to keep it running. Thanks man

Great information. Thanks for making this video. Any thoughts on cost of ownership for SuperSport S?

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Tejas Puranik shouldn’t be too bad in comparison. These newer Ducati’s aren’t to hard to maintain unlike the old ones. Granted some will be a hit or miss. My freind’s v4 has been a nightmare and he actually got it lemoned, but my other friend hasn’t had 1 issue with his v4

@tejasupuranik

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Walter

I'm halfway thru the video now but I'm still left with the big question. What if you get electronical issues or anything like that, I think those are the costs that break the bank. Does anyone have experience with repair costs at Ducati?

@kevinx9225

3 жыл бұрын

You are leaving out new or used. I recently got a used low mile 1200 from a dealer but paid extra for a warranty. I have a few years to figure it out. Most warranties I get I never collected on but sometimes paying a little more up front saves headaches. Though warranties are not guaranties. I have a Honda 1300 with 117,000 (yes). No problems :)

Thanks guy,you're good person..

nice video brother...buy Ducati if you like that is good...but we can't ignore that service Ducati is expensive for sure

Owned a monster. 1100. Got tired of the frequency of the valve adjustments. It’s a big job and an expensive one. Love the Ducati ride. But the cost of the valve maintenance doesn’t justify it to me. And the longevity of the engine just isn’t there when compared to other popular twin engines such as boxers and parallel twins.

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Will Swanson what year was the bike? I’ve yet to still have my big desmo service but it isn’t as frequent as these newer ones

@molarrr

4 жыл бұрын

I owned a 2010 street fighter 1098 S and had to part ways because of the services but I own a 2015 1200S and the service intervals are so stretched out compared to my older bike it makes it much easier

As a long time Ducati rider, I've only done standard services and replaced sprockets, chains and tyres. Nothing goes wrong with them.

@Spartansrule118

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Paul, which model do you own?

hi Walter, was really interested to buy a Xdiavel S, could you please advice, would we able to talk?

@BlackGirafe100

5 жыл бұрын

abin joseph you can DM me on Instagram? @wally_cars

@ducatidonlane749

5 жыл бұрын

Man get a 1198 s Beast mode

Hi bro. I had 797monster 2019 so is it 1000km on the 1st service right?

@BlackGirafe100

2 жыл бұрын

You’d have to refer to your owners Manual man

Oil and Brake Changes are Cheaper on any Brand....so you crucial thing to know is about repair cost and results of independent reliability surveys which find the possibility of breaking down among large sample of bikes for each Brand, European Bikes has scored low score for reliability in those surveys....so no one should take one Ducati or few Ducati Riders experience to measure their running cost or reliability I believe

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Chad Dissanayake my personal experience

Good video and share. I will look to see if you've updated this video since 2018. I hope you still have this Ducati?

@BlackGirafe100

2 жыл бұрын

I do have it, I got 17k miles, soon due for my desmo service but i don’t ride it at all now so I’m probably selling

@WarriorsPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackGirafe100 Good luck 👍🍀 with the sale. Did you get hurt 😞?

0,65 ct per mile or 6500 grand for 10k miles. This is what this bike Costs, all included. I have one.

Do you not work on it cause you dont want to or is it for warranty purposes?

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob Mincks a little of both man. I’m not mechanically gifted with bikes and I still have warranty so why bother. I have also heard of stories where Ducati deny warranty claims if you didn’t get the bike worked on by a proper Ducati tech or certified shop

How is the heat from the engine?

@BlackGirafe100

2 жыл бұрын

During the summer if I’m sitting at a red light I start to feel my balls get a little hot but it’s nothing crazy like a panigale

Helped me out g

Have you thought about DIY? I know Ducatis are too high tech for some folk but there are those who work on them at home

I’m hitting 3.000 on my Supersport S. Should i go in for a oil change or wait till 5,000 miles

@fishadthethird

3 жыл бұрын

go for a oil change. Your engine will thank you!

@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm234

3 жыл бұрын

In terms of oil, always go early. A ducati is a diva, it deserves to be treated well.

T feel like: "com'on man u pay 2500$ for a set of exhaust,and this maintain just cost haft of it.Why border ?''

I have a ducati. There not any diff. You can work on them yourself. Parts are pricy but you don't have to take it in for every little thing. If you have money fine, but if you poor boy it, do it yourself.

Well I put a deposit down for the Streetfighter although I'm paying cash. Coming from a Monster M750.

Its no more expensive than any other brand of bike. Change your own oil and check your own stuff. Get the shop you bought it from to clear the PC. Guys in Dallas clear mine and say it absolutely does NOT void any warranty as long as you use OEM parts. Buy the bikes if ya want em. Live life.

Monster 796 my first bike. I know a guy to work on my toy. He only works on ducati.

Thinking. About grabbing a used one for 10 grand and I make good money

Wallyf80?

Thxs!

How big is yours , did you get the 1200s

@BlackGirafe100

Жыл бұрын

1200 model like stated in ad

@jamescathcart4776

Жыл бұрын

Injoy Walter, ride safe

Working on a Ducati is a pleasure. Consider working on the bike yourself. You only need a few special tools.

@Arvinis1

4 жыл бұрын

Is there any maintenance/mechanical books out there for ducati? I owned too many Japanese bikes for many years and did almost everything by myself expect the tires.

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not too mechanically gifted when it comes to bikes. I’m decent with cars

@Nuriil

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlackGirafe100 have you tried? cars is more complicated than bike, i don't see why you can't do bike if you able to do car

@artmchugh5644

4 жыл бұрын

Check out ducati. Tool rent !!!! This guy rents a complete kit and instructions for adjusting the valves yourself! !!! 110 bucks to rent and 9 bucks a shim !!! Did valves and belts at 80.000 miles on my bike . 😎😎😎😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

@Mike-nq2em

4 жыл бұрын

@@artmchugh5644 you have links or videos please, I have an 01 monster with only 10k miles, but i want to do a good service considering the bike is almost 20 years old

why does your 1200 have silver forks

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a base model, I don’t have ohlins that’s why

2010 multistrada here just hit 15k. Got a quote for 2500 for desmo 😢

@BlackGirafe100

Жыл бұрын

Dang price must’ve gone back or the age of the bike. My quote was a little shy of 2k at dealer

What yr is yours

@BlackGirafe100

5 жыл бұрын

PingPongGod1 2016

9,000 miles between oil changes?

@BlackGirafe100

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Bonta first one was the break in oil change at 1500. Other than that I’m just following Ducati service intervals 🤷🏻‍♂️

@artmchugh5644

4 жыл бұрын

I use AMSOIL motorcycle oil and my shop said 9000 is fine 😎😎😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

I have owned over 100 Italian bikes, the first one cost me a few thousand to own. I realised that I didn't want to do that again but it meant changing my life. So I got into the bike trade and now I make money out of them.

I need an AA-style meeting for Ducati owners 😅

That cost less than me maintaining my Buell 1200 Lightning every 5,000 miles, I'm at 33,000 miles and 3rd sets of tires.

600 miles 400-500$ brake in service at 18k miles valves 1500-2000$

The thumbnail lolol 😂

You can buy another Ducati for the cost of maintaining an 848 EVO for 40,000 miles.

Why df you wear gear while not riding but don’t wear gear when riding

@BlackGirafe100

2 жыл бұрын

Why the fuck does it bother you? Maybe get a life?

Don’t buy into the having to spend money to maintain a Ducati. A former Ducati shop owner & racer told me that valve adjustments, don’t need to happen as often as they tell you. Stay out of the redline all of the time & valve maintenance is nothing. I recommend the first two services but after than nope. If you want to keep services down, remove all the none essential parts. This way the shop can’t charge you for removal of components. Secondly, change your own oil, check your own air filters. Learn to do your own services. Don’t be a yuppie Ducati owner that won’t keep the Duc for years, be a Ducatisti, do your own work.

I don't really understand the big deal with the valve check interval. Why bother? It's out of warranty and all you are doing is burning 1500 bucks for them to look at them. Just ride the bike until you hear pings which will be never if you don't overwork your engine. Have A Nice Day.

My fuel gage broke twice

@BlackGirafe100

Жыл бұрын

Monster 1200 don’t have fuel gauges. At least the 2016 don’t

100$ a month in maintenance

What’s insurance cost ? Great vid

@molarrr

4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2015 monster 1200 S Stripe edition. I pay 45 dollars a month for full coverage with all the extras. I’m 27 and I’ve been riding since 2011 owned 3 Ducati’s and a Indian chief dark horse.

@tonyc6135

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Choate I’m loving the new Indian scout Thoughts ?

@molarrr

4 жыл бұрын

Tony C so I test rode a scout a few times before getting the dark horse. I love the scout it’s a excellent bike with lots of low end torque and plenty of overall HP to just rocket away every time. It was very comfortable and i think probably the best small size cruiser out there. The brand of Indian I feel it much more polished then HD feel more premium and has the fine details. The Only reason I didn’t buy it over the dark horse was the gas tank I felt was too small. In 2016 when I got the dark horse (i don’t know if they updated it since then) the tank was something like 3 gallons. I wanted more fuel per trip. The dark horse is 5+ I believe

Why would you film a video behind that fountain? So annoying

I dont care about the cost. If you love it, it's worth it.

all bikes will cost you money,no matter wtf is it is , also do the work yourself, if you cant change oil , or brakes yourself , you don't deserve to own any vehicle

Get a workshop manual and do it yourself!

Why can't you service the bike yourself? Oil changes are easy, tighten the chain is easy brakes easy everything is easy unless your dealing with the engine

@BlackGirafe100

Жыл бұрын

Because I’m not a mechanic, rather not touch it, and I have factory warranty. Any non dealer service performed will be grounds to void your warranty

@brentbird9503

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackGirafe100 yup same as a car, but dealer are just going to charge the shit out of you, start learning how to work on your bike and you will save a lot of money and time

a ducati costs so much he couldn't afford any audio equipment

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

Kr1zToV fuck you I make more money at 23 than you ever will in your life 🤣 I don’t KZread for a living so I don’t give 2 fucks what my audio sounds like you dumb piece of shit

Настолько люблю монстра, что не понимая не слова, все равно смотрю XD

Find a guy who rides Moto... 1300 every other year is nothing for maintenance

Shame they ever went to belts. More unnecessary expense and inconvenience.

@BlackGirafe100

2 жыл бұрын

This has a regular chain lmao

Don't let this video mislead you. This story is true specifically for the 1200 Ducati. There are still plenty of Ducati models that still have highway robbery maintenance schedules. For a very long while I badly wanted a Ducati Scrambler (800cc engine). But then I've looked at their maintenance schedule. The valve checks are at every 7.5K miles. This is an over $1000 USD service. The design makes the valve clearance check a PITA too, enough that I'd be hesitant to try to do myself. And so I have settled for a Triumph Street Scrambler. It doesn't have exactly the same performance as the Ducati's but its valve check intervals are 20K miles and because of the design it is a much simpler job that I'm more comfortable doing myself and would probably be much cheaper to have done by a professional if I wanted to. I have actually also considered a Moto Guzzi. Not because their maintenance intervals were long (They're absolutely not). But because of the inline crank engine orientation makes the valve clearance checks a breeze. But the Triumph was the better bike to my tastes. Keep these things in mind if you are looking to buy a new motorcycle.

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

phant0 I specified for my bike specifically. If you can afford a Ducati, you can afford to own.

@phant0

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackGirafe100 I didn't mean to accuse anyone of lying. I just wanted to prevent a very expensive misunderstanding.

yeah, thx for the review and the economical advice. Now let's talk about what is expensive and what isn't. 1300-1500 just the desmo service it's excesively expensive. The rest of the services you've mentioned, could be reasonable knowing that as you said it's a high-end bike and a little overpriced. It REALLY is expensive owning a Ducati, very expensive. It's also completly fine if you choose to live that way, no coments on that. But you shouldn't be telling people how italians aren't that expensive and the rest of the talk, dude, they are EXPENSIVE

Poor audio

who cares about the costs when riding a ducati..??

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

You know who does you dumb fuck? Somebody interested in buying a Ducati but hearing all the negative stories people rant about. Stupid piece of shit

@chrisi123

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackGirafe100 hahaha....you are sooo dump. people who cant affort ducati buy Honda anyway...i dont know one ducati driver who cares about the costs. Ask a ferrari driver if he cares about the costs.

@BlackGirafe100

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisi123 whatever makes you sleep at night :)

Buys a exhaust to lane split. Smh. To be” heard” really bro? Lol. Learn some skills watch moto Jitsu

@kellyd1910

4 жыл бұрын

Shut the fuck up

I own one, it is a piece of shit bike, made by peasants, not engineers, not starting randomly, throws oil on my boots, nuts fallen while i ride it... impossible to drive around town. I will gladly swap it for a Japanese any time....

the way you drive and without the cloves, i think you better ride a VESPA. its enough for you. AND the it doesnt cost sp much...puppy

@CaliXJ96

3 жыл бұрын

Did you just call a grown man puppy? Idk man seems a little weird to me...