one of the best video's i've watched on msf so far, this is the sort of info many returning / new players need! ty !!

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Thank you buddy. There is more to come to help the community.

I enjoyed that, thanks BPG. I always preferred CC to War on the gameplay front. I moved to a new alliance in late Feb and am changing my mind. The rewards are way better (Platinum III & Gold II so akin to yours) and the length for the last couple of CC season have scunnered me. Plus this alliance is very organised so rooms are marked, which makes it really co-ordinated & effective. All very copacetic.

@thebigpositivegeek

28 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching Clay. I fully agree if you join a well organised alliance where war is concerned it can be really enjoyable.

Really fun video and discussion. I feel this used to be a resource management game via hero collector. But the changes like star requirements for oml, and events being so participation based, (aka points for raiding with 7star etc) it’s becoming more of a hero collector with some resource management elements. That’s why I’m loving the baby account more than I was end game account. Much much more resource management dynamics again!!

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Yeah I still feel the resource management certainly where I am in the game. Glad you’re happy playing the new account. Now when are we going to get some more content from you brotha!

Hey bpg, it's lukecageslovechild. You've prob noticed lately but I have def switched my preference to war. Much more flexibility in what teams can attack what. You see way more variety of teams to attack into also, not the same 6 teams on defense every day. The longevity of war teams is a huge plus too

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Definitely. The other thing I forgot to mention in the video is that War teams are also generally needed for the trials/scourges so you have the double use of resources.

Awesome analysis! I haven’t seen anybody else do this comparison. So thanks for the much needed video!👍🏼

@thebigpositivegeek

26 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for Watching!

Outstanding video well researched great points I love it man great job 👏🏾

@thebigpositivegeek

27 күн бұрын

Thank you brotha!

Mostly agree with your points but it's worth adding that there is a fun factor to CC because of the variability of the rooms and more plug-and-play nature of the teams and matchups. I genuinely look forward to CC nowadays because it presents a challenging puzzle that war doesn't, both because its an alliance battle and the more static nature of defenses and matchups where it's really only a power check with your specific known counter.

@thebigpositivegeek

28 күн бұрын

See I actually find War fun and interesting because different room layouts can give different results and a well organised war based alliance can give you as many puzzles and choices as CC imho. But that’s why I say it’s your game and you play it to enjoy it so if you enjoy CC then that’s awesome.

As a year one player and alliance leader I greatly prefer CC over war. CC is just way more fun where I am at in gold 2, I am able to theorycraft and strategize. The stakes feel much higher as it's only my 6 attacks that count. My alliance is currently Plat 2 in war and our winning or losing doesn't come down to strategy at all at this point. Either we out participate our opponent or we lose because we are not strong enough, it's very binary. Most of us are year 1 players and so we cannot invest in any war teams except the ones that are required like out of time, new warriors, gamma. Alot of us are on the apoc detour right now so our rosters are stalling out @ lvl 85-90 while we build old teams. So most of our war experience is pulling our hair out when we come up against a huge H4H or weapon x or infestation that we can't counter as we have put all our good teams on defense for a chance. Lots of solid cogent info here, really solid. I look forward to war once I have been playing for longer. Thanks BPG!

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

I can fully understand that especially pulling your hair out against huge Hero’s for Hire. Thank you for watching.

Good analysis. Thanks!

@thebigpositivegeek

27 күн бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching!

I've never been a fan of Alliance War. From the moment it was introduced, I dealt with alliance leadership who would say it was not going to be a focus but act otherwise. Now that I'm in leadership, I only harass members when we need attacks for a specific event. CC I go back and forth on. I'm not the best at theory-crafting or creativity in the game. I do my best when there are clear call-outs for offense & defense, and I can get fairly consistent game play. If I'm more efficient, yay. If not, gg & move on. About 2 seasons ago I had a horrible go, probably losing 80% of my daily matchups. This season I'm winning 50-60%, which is probably the ELO goal. I know your video focuses more on rewards and ROI, but for me it's more about enjoying the game activity itself.

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Hey Paul, that’s why I include the golden rule at the start. The most important thing is that you’re enjoying playing the game. This video is purely math and return on investment.

I do wrong thing and try to build everything a little, slowly investing more in characters that turn out to be linchpins in their teams slowly growing them till they are just big enough to be useful before moving on. I prefer war because as we all make different investment choices and the mode lets us cover for each other's weaknesses but I don't base my investment choices on that. My big problem with CC is that because it's just you, without help, it's entirely possible, at least at lower than endgame, to encounter a team you simply cannot beat. This is less a problem now, it just means a guaranteed loss, but it used to mean not being able to make as much progress in events since they used to require wins only, or using a certain team a number of times. It still becomes a problem much sooner not having a current CC team than a current war team since without the CC team you are just on a permanent losing streak but in war everything is different every time and sometimes it doesn't matter. The other big thing is traditionally they force major investment in CC teams by making them a requirement in other game modes. You literally had no choice but to have an MoE of a certain size or Unlimited X-Men or Superior 6 or now Cabal. In war you, at least at lower level, you don't need the perfect defense, you just need something that not every single member of the enemy alliance can simply walk across. Anything built big enough will suffice, even old Raid teams or Arena or whatever. Every once in a while you will get a team that has to be built simply because of how good it is defensively or offensively but by and large taking things slow is ok. Basically war teams you generally build because you want to, other game mode teams you build because you have to.

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Agree with all of this. I hope I put it across well enough in the video. Thank you for watching and commenting.

New Warriors are certainly beat some defenses in CC. The counter sheet says so and I've used them. I am in Diamond 2 currently.

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Yes they can beat some defences but if you compare them to a similar War team in their mode it’s not even a competition.

The crucible season is painfully long, what the heck. Also why only 1 match of 3 in a week? Could have 2 matches of 3 and still have a day off. Interesting to hear war teams last so long, that's cool.

@thebigpositivegeek

28 күн бұрын

Hey Nav, yeah I don’t think people truly see how little you get out of CC. For what you have to put in.

@NavikvonBathory

28 күн бұрын

@@thebigpositivegeek For real. Though I admit, I do find it more fun than War, I think because it's more personalized.

@thebigpositivegeek

27 күн бұрын

Yeah I can get that.

Aren’t you a little low? My account is 15m TCP and I’m the same subrank in both, or does it not scale up much?

@thebigpositivegeek

27 күн бұрын

TCP doesn’t really affect where you are in the PVP modes. It’s just going to give you more options.

where is the link to updog war counter?

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

Forgot to add it but have added it now.

@tommyliu7020

26 күн бұрын

@@thebigpositivegeek the link doesn’t work. The image doesn’t show up.

@thebigpositivegeek

25 күн бұрын

@@tommyliu7020 I’ll get it sorted thank you for letting me know.

War is the biggest trap in this game. Even if you do well your results rely on your alliance performance. It is a game mode designed for whales to flash their big shiny new toons.

@thebigpositivegeek

27 күн бұрын

Hey Daniel, thing is a lot of the Whales are up in Diamond but Plat 3 seems to be not so much filled with Whales. Certainly mathematically from a RoI standpoint War is a better return on your resources.

@danielmarbun6297

27 күн бұрын

@@thebigpositivegeek I am at master 1 and my roster would not even cut it for top war alliances. If you join a good raid alliance then they will skew toward 50:50 in war and that is what everyone will get unless you are in the top 10

Cosmic crucible teams are usable in War, which does not apply opposite. As F2P you will not be able to do high investment into war teams. So what are we talking for 20 minutes .)

@thebigpositivegeek

29 күн бұрын

War teams are useable in cosmic crucible. Or elements of War teams at least. You certainly will be able to invest in war as a F2P. I will have another video explaining this.

@cimprlich6314

29 күн бұрын

@@thebigpositivegeek Well, lets say it better . Arena and raid teams are must build and high invest. And than there are other teams which are great to use in other game modes. You need to play both Cosmic crucible and war to be able to compete over time. So trying to say that one need to choose between CC and War is irrelevant. Just build great multipurpose teams

@thebigpositivegeek

28 күн бұрын

@cimprlich6314 totally agree with you on the raid and Arena teams. But seriously from an RoI standpoint war is the better game mode to invest in after these two.

both sucks, because its pvp. pvp is bad even in games without this big gap gettin bigger and bigger literally every damn patch between krakens and everytone else and its gettin worse so quickly. wish we had a sim button in both modes so it would be easier to ignore it without screwing the alliance when theres this damn events goin on.

@thebigpositivegeek

27 күн бұрын

If you don’t like PVP that’s understandable. The gap is getting bigger but in a way I’m happy with that because it means at some point hopefully the landscape will mean that those who spend will not even be where I am in PVP modes so I will be against people on a similar footing to myself.