After watching this video I realized I need a new house, not new speakers :(((

@felixarzuaga5805

2 жыл бұрын

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@breakfast7595

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@TK-ky7tg

2 жыл бұрын

As funny as your reply is, it is dead on. I understand what he is saying in theory but, as you already know, room size and many other factors, make that either extremely difficult or impossible. BTW, you owe me a drink for the one I spit out after reading your reply😁😁😁

@manyakus8919

Жыл бұрын

Tell me about it!

@familyng7223

Жыл бұрын

😅 haha, me too 🤭

Such an arrangement would be wonderful if I owned a mansion, but since I live in a small frame house, I make do with setting my 7.1 speakers where I can. They work well enough for me too.

@TheMotscham

3 жыл бұрын

Just cam on to this cux I'm try to set up system...who in the hell had 1 couch in the middle of a room...no 1 I know...lmfao

@ignacioblacksmith6764

5 ай бұрын

@@TheMotscham Not even theaters have that distribution haha

A big wow...Very informative video. I was captivated by the speaker. Thank you for sharing with us such a great audio information.

Its very informative about Sound Positions for Speakers.Done well great job lets have a watch again this video.

Nice video, but impractical. Most people I have seen do not have the option to set the speakers up in a circle in this manner. This is where tuning the receiver for the distances comes in hand. So while this video gives a nice basic explanation of positioning, more than likely, if someone is spending money for surround, they are going to have a receiver that will compensate for speakers being at odd distances in a rectangular room, and in most cases, the receivers come with a special mic to put at the center of the listening area, and it will auto tune the speakers for you. Just think about an actual movie theater. It isn't a circle.

@rabarebra

Жыл бұрын

If you use that microphone that measure this distances that sometimes follow with the AV-receiver. I've seen NONE using this, and the surround is all madness. In most cases it is not even used as surround, but it is still in stereo with some surround-FX applied. LOL 😂 Edit: The problem with these uneven mic-measurements is that you will get into odd phase-shifts and weird sounds (filter characteristics).

@Foreverjazzfan

Жыл бұрын

Just measure to a specific point where you’re sitting from each speaker. Then said that distance in your receiver. Problem solved.

@rabarebra

Жыл бұрын

@@Foreverjazzfan Absolutely not. Have you heard how that EQs the sound. It is utter garbage doing such adjustments. Just move yourself instead.

@imnotamechanic3491

9 ай бұрын

@@rabarebra Moving yourelf is unlikely to be practical, if you have a decent sized screen, you will be atleast 10-12ft away from the screen, so to put your rear speakers equi distnance away would require a 20x20ft room (and, acoustically, a sqaure room is a bad idea). A system shouldnt ruin the sound simply by delaying the channel a few ms, I am setting my home cinema up now, but my Blu-ray has indvidual speaker delay on, and whilst I have only been using stereo til now, I have delayed the sound to get lip sync. If your receiver is ruining the sound, maybe you need to upgrade?

@csimet

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Few people have a large enough room to allow equal spacing. Most rooms do not permit enough space for the surround speakers (rear and/or sides). This is where adjustments are needed via the AVR. I wish I could have a dedicated media room to setup the perfect environment and sit in the center. There is very little professional level YT content dedicated to non-optimal room designs and are almost always geared towards people with the dedicated/perfect room (again, allowing center seating).

nice video, straight to the point, and visual explanation

This is all well and good as long as your lounge is the size of a football pitch.

@TheSimonboyle

2 жыл бұрын

You think a football pitch is 20 feet?

@audigex

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, how many rooms can actually manage this kind of setup? Dedicated home theatre rooms maybe, but in most rooms not a chance

In a 5.1 setup the surround speakers go to your sides facing the listening position. When you move up to a 7.1 THEN you add the rear speakers, not the other way around as this video suggests. And all your speakers don't NEED to be equal distances. Any good receiver is going to have room correction software that will measure and account for the distance of your speakers.

@pcass2634

5 жыл бұрын

Agree

@kevinweithers1223

5 жыл бұрын

Cinema Sound, you mention not to put speakers on the ceiling. What about Dolby Atmos which requires that?

@ncvvalley9736

5 жыл бұрын

This is the longest conversation I've ever heard people have in Chinese 😁

@backstab86

5 жыл бұрын

room correction is a feature in the better "home theatre" systems. no pro system relies on that. if you have a good amp, you build your house around it. unless you cant pay for that, you shouldnt listen to music or watch movies on a good system. you are just not worth it

@charleyweinhardt

5 жыл бұрын

the only issue with delay is lip sync. for each foot of difference between the farthest speaker and the closest speaker there will be a 1 millisecond additional delay. the furthest speaker will fire first and then the closest speaker will fire a few milliseconds after so you hear them at the same time particularly if your rears far far away you will have lip sync issues between the front speakers and screen. your average screen has a video feed response time of 5 ms so nowadays(not input lag), it is a good idea to not have a difference speaker distance per foot more than the response time or so. I have always preferred to have my "surround" channels(which I prefer to call rears usually) about 120 degrees with 5.1. If adding "rear" for 7.1 I'd bring the surrounds to 90° and raise them up so a bit so tweeters hit all listeners and delays are more even. The correct distance between fronts to sides to rears is important, 80° like the video shows is no good better to have them at 110 so tweeters hit each listener and have rears straight behind pointing towards the center channel.

Wow! thank you for this very informative video!

Very well explained sir! Learned so much from watching less than 5 min video on spkr placements. Thank you!

Amazing video. Thanks for sharing!

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Guess you never heard of digital delay and level control have you?

Absolutely Brilliant..Changed my entire experience..💯💣👍

what a nice Speakers video it is!! Greetings from my heart

Very useful video, make it more! Congratz!

Thank you for this information you are really a good person

Can't believe it but I have my speakers just like you said. Thanks

very nice video! quick question what if you have a rectangular room,?should you bring the speakers closer (farther from tv) to make that perfect circle or should I just adjust the speaker levels on the receiver? also if i use height speakers, should they be directly above me or should they be in front/ behind me?

great video, i learned something new, the golden triangle! maybe do something about the dipole speakers placement and the controversy between object based audio vs dipole speakers? that should help people making the right decision when buying equipment in the future. and maybe something about hires audio & speakers? too much people neglect these details, that information is gold.

great video! very informative.

Thanks Mark, that helps a lot!

Good video, good tips. Thanks bro 👍👍

amazing tutorial, must try

I just watched this video. Very well explained. Question: If one can’t get the the surround distance you suggest, does the electronic distance and levels adjustments in the AVR compensate for this? Thanks

@n3tfury

Жыл бұрын

it does

In a perfect world this would be great but viewing areas often arent so cut and dry to enable this set up. For example if your normal viewing position is right up against a wall your gonna have 1 speaker way closer to you than the other. That's when you have to tweak out pot on these speakers and it becomes far more difficult.

wow... amazing cinema sound...i have got to get that...

Hi, I'll be placing my side speakers right next to the cauch and at 90 degree towards the listening position - I can't change that (wall mounted). What I'm planning to do is - place them 3 feet higher than my ear level so I gain a bit of a distance and ambience and resolve the "buddy blocking" problem. I also plan to aim the speakers at about 10 degree downwards - it will not aim at me, it will aim at about 2 feet above my ears. That way I hope it will be more "ambient" and not "direct" sound. I'm thinking on Dali Fazon. Any thoughts on that approach? Thank you in advance!

This question is a bit different but maybe you can help me. My movie was mixed in stereo but I am trying to decide for the movie theaters if I should select all the 5.1 even though it will not be in surround, would it still feel more subversive for the audience if the hear the audio not just from the front of theater but all around them. Again, I understand it will not be in surround. I am concerned that even though I have my audio mixed well where I mixed with headphones and I would put my home surround on and mix audio with sub to make sure sub is not to bass heavy. I would keep my sub up at about halfway, so that was a guess, Lol. What audio configuration do you think I should use?....I will be reloading my movie into a program that will convert movie to DCP, theater format and I can choose there all the speaker configurations. I listened today with the L,R and Center channels and it sounded a bit mid rangy, somewhat muddy but not terrible.

Excellent video and very good

When setting up a receiver with the included mic, does it typically calibrate volume, synch, or both?

Hi, on 5.1 I ve put my surround speaker 1.5/2 feet above ear level, is it right? Sometime is fine, same case not. Dolby specifies this but most people say the opposite leaving surround on ear level, but they are distracting..

What do you do if your listening position is back against the wall? Where do you put the back surround speakers?

searched and searched for a video explaining the best way to mount my sonos system speaker for 5.1 and you guys did a great job explaining it. One question if I understand this correctly its better to the the speakers close to ear level for height vs up in the air in the corner of the room aimed down? My problem is with my open floor plan I have no outlets directly behind my couch so I can only mount them along the walls in the room.

@MWDAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Ok. Thanks. I think I will experiment with different heights and see how they sound before buying any kind of mounting bracket.

Woooww man It's a nice video to listen.

Good vlog, helpfull for me.

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Wow! That surely simplified it. Now if you could please offer me some advice. I am doing 7.1. I have (3) 5.5 driver towers in front. Matching center. 2 bipole speaker and in the market for the other (2) to complete set. And I have a 10” sub. My question 1 is do I place the bipoles in rear or sides? And recommendation for the missing 2. Small bookshelf? Etc. thanks. I’m using a Yamaha R8 series receiver

I know this is an older video, but even processors back when this video was made account for distance and time delay so you don't need everything to be perfectly symmetrical. Your subs go where they have the best bass response. Your processor will take care of distances and delay. Of course this is assuming your run something like Dirac or Audyssey.

This is an excellent video!! When I finished my basement space, I ran 7.1 wiring in a layout like you show at 3:20 (with sides at 80 deg, due to layout limitations) and it is very good for side-to-side, but the rear speakers do not seem to fill in enough to shift the effect behind the listener. I wonder if I should aim the side speakers backward, to a point behind the center position a bit, to enhance the surround effect? My speakers are at mounted 90 deg to the wall so focal point is slightly in front of listener right now, so I am wondering if it is worth getting speaker mounts to allow aiming these back. A gain of 10 degrees seems like not enough to be worth it, but if focusing back a even further would help, I would consider it. (e.g. if two people sit 3 ft apart, I would aim each side speaker at the closest person, rather then a midpoint between the listeners, for about a 20 deg angle to the wall) Another option I was considering was to investigate if my receiver could treat rear speakers to same mix as side (e.g. 5.1 mix with "dual" side speakers), and then balance the levels (side and rear) so I could create a "virtual" speaker over my shoulder (between these). However, I do not think this is doable with my Yamaha RX-V673 receiver, and perhaps the tweak in the paragraph above would be enough, and allow true 7.1 to continue to be used. Appreciate your thoughts/experience.

My surrounds left and right are on the back wall but way further than the surround back and up with down facing angle. And properly angled, the back ones are just facing down more and it works!!!!

What if I have a 20x20x8 a square room. I can do the even distances but people are saying that a square room is not ideal for good acoustics especially bass response. I have dual subs btw.

How do you set up distance. 0 to 3 m? Which do I choose?

Hi, I am planning to get 85" QLED(2021 Q70A) and a matching sound bar to have home theatre setup in my lounge space. My lounge size is 12.5 foot depth, width is 10.5 foot and ceiling height is 7.9 foot. I wish to have 4 seats in a row. Mostly i watch regular TV shows, movies, and sports. I dont play games on this home theatre. Could you please advise on choosing between Home theatre soundbar samsung HW-Q900A and Q870A(2021). Both are in same price the range. HW-Q900A has 7.1.2 channel sound without rear speakers. HW-Q870A has 5.1.4 channel sound with wireless rear speakers. Could you please suggest me to choose the better soundbar from the above two and few tips on setup, considering my room space, TV size and seating capacity. Thanks in advance.

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So , my whole studio suround setup doesnt allow me to put rear speakers at the corner , i can only do them like what dolby recomends , would that be a huge different and what speaker bracket should i get and also do i rly need to rotate the speakers to face me , thanks

nice video.. you learn more.

This is a good advice....!

Where are the links you mentioned ? (Dolby site and that set ip program, groop or ?)

What about putting surrounds in the ceiling? Are there special considerations, or is the magic triangle enough?

My living room is just too small. My wall is right back of my couch and my tv is only 10 feet in front of me. Any tip of where do i have to put my surround speakers of my 5.1 system? My surrounds are the Acoustech PL66. I also was planning to add 2 more speakers to have a 5.1.2 system.

Great information. Thanks!

whats the job of the lw and rw speakers in a 9.1 are they just duplicates of the l & r or are they satellite speakers? just curios cause i have two 5.1 soundbars and out of curiousity i hooked them up and its sounds quite frankly like im running two soundbars. was wondering what the best location of the other bar would be as i cant simply mute the bar without disabling the sub or the satellites if i wanted a 5.2 or a 7.2 wondering if i should mute one of the center channels on one of the bars also?

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Hi. My family room has 3 walls (front, right, back), the 4th side (left) is open to the kitchen. I have 2 identical subwoofers. One subwoofer is located at the front right of the room. My family room is 17' wide x 15' deep x 9' ceiling. QUESTION: I have 2 locations that I can place the 2nd subwoofer. I read that option C is better but I would prefer option D below. Your thoughts? C) the rear left of the room (I read that this is the preferred but the subwoofer would be an eyesore) D) the rear right of the room (the subwoofer would be hidden.) Is it ok to place it here? Would it sound bad if both subwoofers are located at the front-right and rear-right of the room? Thanks.

what if your main wall is not straight it is angled so front right left center good and the couch is center where to put the rears at a angle ? or just behind the couch.

My problem Is my room no 4th wall, can't move listening position into the center of the room, only place for listening against back wall along with surround speakers And Why don't we use floor standing speakers for are surround sound?

¿Are the back surround speakers the same as height speakers, is the same sound coming out of that cord or do you need to buy a receiver that has an extra height output from the back? please answer thanks!

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Good to speaker,nice to watch

if my fronts LCR are 10 feet and there is no 10 feet space for surrond only 6 feet one side and 6 feet other side what will be delay (Do delay mean distance in avr or level in avr )

I don't have much space behind my couch and I'mthinking about the bipol speakers "Klipsch RP-402S" as the back speakers. Anyone knows if this could work with about 60cm betwen listener and speakers?

I have a open floor in my condo so do i do this with home theater.

My back is against a wall. I listen only to movies. How should I place my rears? Should i use bookshelf speakers or those dual triangle like surround speakers?

For some reason. I had to place my side surround speaker above my ear about 1Meter to 1.2 Meter and i cant point it direct to my ear. Is it ok cause i often use my home theater for video game and what i look picture from manual it looks like should be on ear level?

Nice video,very good video

does ypao or odessey mic calbibration changes this?

What about for those of us that like to mount everything in the ceiling or wall? I have 2 round Martin logan's in the ceiling above the couch and I want to put 2 in wall behind the couch and on the TV wall

i just got logitech z906 (5.1), and i placed all 5 of them equidistant to me(like 8.2 feet), so i am in center of it... but i cant place front left and front right speakes to be equidistant to them for this "magic triangle", distance between front left and front right speeker is 9.5 feet. i didnt mounted them on wall yet, waiting for some better idea, so if there are some tips to make most of my place and speakers, feel free to help :)

Understood the idea of the surround sound. My problem is that my speakers must be sealing mounted for aestetic reasons (my wife could explain). How do I proceed in this case? My couch is at about 7' from my TV and I want to prewire a 7.1 system. Thank you for the response. G.C.

Thanks - I got what I need !! I recently upgraded to sony-str-dn1070 7.2 AV Receiver(for room size LWH 24*12*10 ft)it produces 165W per channel, \i\m confused in choosing the suitable subs and surround speakers 1)already have 150W active Sub Pioneer S-31 W. Receiver produces 165W & Sub power is 150W RMS does it affect this Sub? 2)Can I hook 1 or 2 passive sub woofer( or car sub JBL Stage 1010) directly to my receiver? reason active subs are costly 3)have surround speakers Pioneer S-11 package(Max input power is 150W) can I use it? 4)suggest some surround speakers, look wise I like compact speakers but I need better audio quality. 5)small or big speakers which is better for my room? 6)why ATMOS speakers are costly ? its just tilted or it has an engine inside the speaker box? :) I dont want loud sound, need deep bass and crystal clear audio. Mostly watching movies & Music

Very very nice video i like it.

I dont know anyone that has a room like this. Yes in a demonstration room were your trying to sell speakers maybe you'd be in a room like that but most people don't but with that said nice video...

The subwoofer crawl is the best way to determine the best placement for compact bass.

I've question regarding soround what do you think about newly release (immerse for cubase/nuendo) I mean this one take picture for you earball :D then allow you to put object in anyway not restricted to 5.1 or 7.1 or even larger scale sorround system but just wondering if you know immerse or you can explain can we make 3d system exported to stereo? or always we should export stereo version and sorround version thank you (still taking cinema sound course I really really like this course )

@cinema_sound5003

3 жыл бұрын

Anas Alsayed thanks so much! I’m not totally sure what you’re asking. But when we mix we typically want to mix in surround because one way or another mixed tend to end up in some surround format. And going from stereo to surround is nowhere near as good as going surround to stereo.

@AnasAlsayedStudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@cinema_sound5003 thx for your response this helped me alot regarding the 1st part, I was talking about ( immerse embody sorround plugin from nuendo/cubase which is released few days back) ^^ I feel confused if this is better or better to learn using SAD plugin mentioned in your course

a great tool, good goog,,

I have a less than ideal room for theatre speaker placement however, the audio calibration works wonders. I currently run my system in 5.1 with my front speakers bi-amped but am considering adding back surround and converting to 7.1. Is there a way i could upload a picture of my room, and setup, so you could recommend placement of the two additional drivers? Secondly, i am not using subs because my tower speakers are handling the low end very well. Would I be sacrificing a lot of bass and clarity by going back to a single amplification channel for each front?

@fermitupoupon1754

6 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that just be a matter of configuring the DTS decoder? I mean if the decoder knows that it doesn't have a dedicated sub, but it has full-range towers, it should just send those frequencies to them. Like on my PC, the driver thinks there's a pair of full-range speakers. Just the single pair. But because it thinks there are full range speakers there, it does send the subwoofer audio data over the stereo line out.

@DjPhillieB

6 жыл бұрын

Fermitu Poupon , i agree. I'm not sure he recognized, or answered, my question as i wrote it. My receiver did exactly that. After connecting a sub and doing a sound test, it still provided an LFE signal and split it between the 2 front channels.

@DjPhillieB

6 жыл бұрын

To rephrase my question, i wanted to know if i would notice an audible difference in having my front channels bi-amped versus just a single channel of amplification.

@DjPhillieB

6 жыл бұрын

Cinema Sound, my apologies... My system was setup correctly as a 5.0 channel system with my fronts using the additional two channels for bi-amped L & R. My question was if there a way i can provide a diagram of my room and current speaker locations so that you could suggest best placement of rear speakers so that i could step it up to a 7 channel setup? My tv and fronts are somewhat "caddy cornered" facing the couch with my surrounds left and right of the seating area. I would like to add rear surrounds but am unsure as to the optimum positioning.

Hi i have sony 5.1 home theater. My reciever has 1 hdmi, 1 optical and coaxial ports other than the basic component ports av ports etc. My tv supports optical. My question is with this how can i connect my laptop to the sound system. I have connected my laptop with the hdmi to the tv. But i wish the sound come from the 5.1 system. Can someone help me out.

What about the height of the surround speakers? Should they be at the ear level? Thank you!

@bigguy1403

Жыл бұрын

No absolutely not they should be about 3 feet above your ear...

thank you very much

we've got a U shaped couch with the right side against the wall. so i guess its impossible to have good audio for everyone. unless i would mount everything on the ceiling, but wouldnt that sound weird tho?

Where do you hide the wiring? Can the speakers be ceiling mounted?

Thanks for the video. I have my speakers set up in this way. The question I have is, I have 2 rear speakers left & right, but when I play music the rear speakers seldom go off. What affects the rear speakers being triggered?

@mrchiledonut

9 ай бұрын

It would be whatever your receiver or soundbar is telling your speakers to do. You're upmixing audio and need to change it to "direct" or whatever it is called on your sound system in the EQ settings.

What the correct position for ceiling speakers.

Wouldn't things like YPAO or Sony's auto calibration make speaker distance less of an issue than speaker angle?

Good video, but doesn't room correction adjust for distance\delay and levels? Like Audyssey.

@AndrewB23

5 жыл бұрын

Just let the receiver calibrate the listening spot and then adjust with your ear to get it just right, most homes won't work "the perfect speaker position".

@pivniciarpivnicny781

5 жыл бұрын

@@cinema_sound5003 My friend.. Audio signals delaying is one of most common techniques in proffesional audio engineering, thats your opinion can be fairly described as urban legends of Hi-Fi maniacs..

awesome video.!!!!!! love to alllllllllllllll

With a room full of furniture and a room that isn't perfectly round or square, this just isn't realistically possible. I put my speakers where I can lol

@Synicaly

2 жыл бұрын

it depends on how serious you take this hobby. I worked around this problem by slowly buying my furniture around the speaker system rather than vice versa. It still doesn't look too much like a home theatre and still like a living room but it's almost as the video suggests.

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owo what a great video.. really nice. i like it. ilove it. thanks for making this video. really nice this video. it is a aducative video

In general what should front and rear balance be like in a mix? How much lower are rear speakers? Say on orchestra balance strings brass etc?

@rabarebra

Жыл бұрын

I'd always subtract the rear by 25% in level. They usually mix rear content too loud. That is my experience. Adjust how YOU like it.

when I start to setup my 5.1 surrou d is it best to start with the center speaker to the listening position for the distance...or how do I determine the equidistance for the speakers?

@leonsines510

4 жыл бұрын

@@cinema_sound5003 my room is small...and odd size....13x8

Went with Bi-polar rears and eliminated all the geometry needs. More expansive sound. Def Tech SR9040s are awesome. Just ensure your auto calibration on your receiver ignores these during setup as they confuse the AV unit.The included guide walks you through proper settings.

Tv. Mounted on wall left center right are facing forward and rears are side of couch noticed 2 things sound doesn’t sound great especially watching cable tv maybe I need to angle them

I need help placing my home theater speakers

4:16 I thought that was my baby haha

My room is 13' x10'........i have the tv on a 13ft wall side....the room is a rectangle....i cant figure out a good position for my 5.1 system...i know the basics...but sometimes the basics dont apply

A good HT receiver's setup can compensate for different distances.

i have 5.1.2 avr dolby atmos. the problem is i couldn't place them in side my ear (110 degrees). I can only do that in back about (135 degrees). is it okay?

@adnansz8930

5 жыл бұрын

@@cinema_sound5003 thank you. Btw i wanted to upgrade my speaker. Should i go to direct speaker or wide dispersion speaker. For back surround