I actually had a build similar to this concept, except it was, get this: A Scold's Bridle Auto-Warcry Loop Hydrosphere Double Strike Shotgun Berserker with Summon Reaper. Here's how it worked (NOTE: THIS WAS BEFORE THE HYDROSPHERE NERF): -Grab Eternal Apple + Scold's Bridle -Grab Warcry CDR on tree and make sure your Warcries have proper cooldowns to sustain the loop -Grab Cluster Jewel with the notable that has "Gain an Endurance Charge every second if you've been Hit recently" -Use skill, which causes Scold's Bridle to hit you -Generate Endurance Charge every second, which Triggers the Warcries socketed in Golden Apple once you hit max, which spends mana, which hits you, causing a loop -Manage exact Warcry cooldown nodes to maintain said loop between Endurance Charge generation and Warcry cooldowns even while idle -Golden Apple triggers Ancestral + Battlemage's Cry, and Battlemage's Cry triggers socketed Hydrosphere when you attack -Slap Melee Splash in Double Strike and shotgun Ancestral Cry attacks off of Hydrosphere, Tribal Fury node added even more Splash -Loop causes you to never lose Rage since you're constantly getting hit -Scale damage with Battlemage's Cry and Scold's Bridle Spell Damage, as well as Zerker Warcry node -Wanted cheap DPS, so I used Vulconus and I coincidentally wanted to try Double Strike -Vulconus + Double Strike give flat + % increased damage on Bleeding targets, and I had to take Avatar of Fire, so Summon Reaper was the most reliable way to apply bleed and wound up being like ~80% more damage -Pooped on bosses because Melee Splash was effectively another damage link with the shotgunning, and Double Strike is a natural bossing skill -Clear wasn't incredible but Melee Splash + Ancestral Cry + Herald of Ash made it tolerable -Constant removal of Ailments from Warcry mastery + triggered Warcries -Defensive layers included Leech, Withering Step + Nightblade, Defiance Banner, Berserk, Defy Pain, Imbalanced Guard, Meat Shield on Summon Reaper, and Molten Shell (Vaal Molten Shell was potentially an interesting option with the self-hitting aspect) The build was a pretty cool bosskiller that costed basically nothing. It was hitting like 300k Flaskless Sirus DPS not even in maps yet.

The downside of the build is it sounds like a gruelling women's tennis match is going on in the background

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

that's a downside? :D

@forcefulstorm6187

7 ай бұрын

*upside

@AtlasGcx

7 ай бұрын

Don’t threaten me with a good time

@Gardenlessbirb

7 ай бұрын

Downside!? Wut?

@vasquezv244

7 ай бұрын

Kinda hot

Cool seeing builds made by Korean players and others outside the west. They always have some whacky ideas that seem fun to try

@beasthaven1571

7 ай бұрын

Wish we see more hidden korean builds come to life

@offal6407

7 ай бұрын

I've been loving the cold snap of power and frostblink miners, some awesome build creators in their space

@user-xw4kq6df7r

7 ай бұрын

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 닉네임 미쳤네

@brojakmate9872

6 ай бұрын

You know they are racist, right?

Hey just a heads up for anyone who may have an issue with their eternal apple warcry loop breaking, if you have too much "non-channeling skills have -x to total mana cost" on your ring, you will not damage yourself enough for it to loop infinitely. I have my ring with life/mana catalyst so I had -8 and it would only cast 4 warcries before stopping. Once I recrafted a lower level craft (I went down to -5) I stopped having the issue and it continued looping endlessly.

@Nalahzard

7 ай бұрын

You launch the fix 1.0.1 bro thx

@GawdDaeme

7 ай бұрын

Had the same problem. In my case I could fix it by unallocating the "Skills cost Life instead of 30% of Mana", this brought all my warcries to 1 mana, which are the only skills that actually use mana and the regen is enough to make it loop indefinately. Problem was caused by running 4 auras of which 3 are linked with enlighten, the 4th is on the slot that is normally taken by Alchemists Mark, but i'm not using 2 curses yet so I used that slot for the second Herald.

@GaKunz

7 ай бұрын

Brooo, u saved me. True savior

@thehoneybadger150

7 ай бұрын

tyty you big beautiful brained Chad. I dont care what they say about you, you alright@@GawdDaeme

@stebbee

7 ай бұрын

I tried both of your methods to put ring on lower -x mana cost and unallocating the life mastery but then i cant afford warcries. I can start the loop perfectly fine when out of combat, but as soon as i start killing stuff it warcries 3 times, skips 1 and then repeats 3 times etc. Any clue as to how to fix?

You can also run 2 normal fragility and the loop will work on a faster cooldown. Instead of 1s gain 1s lose, with 1 maximum charge and enduring composure you will gain the single charge in 1s, and then immediately lose it due to eternal apple's "Lose all Endurance Charges Upon Reaching Maximum Endurance Charges". Not sure if this messes with cd's, and it also requires 1 more jewel socket. Just thought I'd mention it! Great video, this was an awesome and unique build!

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

unfortunately we are at the limit of the warcry cooldowns, more fragilities doesn't help. stacking cooldown recovery rate would be the way to scale this better though sources of it are hard to fit into the build.

@w4zz_yt

7 ай бұрын

@subtractem Ahhh, that's rough then. It'd be so fun to see a rapid-fire shouting build!

A cast when stunned setup with pretty much any Bloodnotch setup is very underrated. You have no idea how many mobs I have auto-reaped because they attacked so fast.

to all the people suggesting ways to lose endurance charges to speed up the explosion/loop, know that the limiting factor is pretty much always gonna be the cooldown of your warcries, not how fast you can dump charges. the 0.25s cooldown listed on the item is basically the theoretical limit to the trigger rate, but eternal apple still retains the cooldown of the warcries themselves, even if you could consistently dump charges every 0.25 seconds the warcries would still only be going off about every 2-3 seconds per warcry (for all of them except gen cry, which you can get down to 1-1.5 seconds)

Enjoying your content. So much to learn from ya.

This setup looks really sweet for mapping! I made a bossing focused build around the charms going Necromancer and hit based instead, managed to take down all ubers without mageblood. Such a fun mechanic to build around, love seeing different flavours of the concept. Too bad this is probably the only league we're ever gonna be able to play it 😭

@dennislee4295

7 ай бұрын

POB, please? and budget?

@TaakiPoE

7 ай бұрын

@@dennislee4295 I have a guide on my channel, you can check out the PoB there, dont wanna clog up sub's comments with my PoB :P Well unfortunately a lot of the items are skyrocketing in price right now, especially charms and jewels :( Was only about 25 div 2 weeks ago when I made it but its gonna be alot higher now. That Which Was Taken jewel I bought for 2 div is 100 now lol. Replica Fragility from 10c to 15 div etc. Probably atleast 50+ div now for a similar but still slightly worse setup tbh.

@beasthaven1571

7 ай бұрын

Afk Simulacrum o .o

@tuomasleppanen1141

7 ай бұрын

Interested in PoB

Hi subtractem, really enjoy your content. If you happen to see this, just throwing this out there: you can get summon raging skulls stacking to 2 per cast and have 2sec lifetime, that equates to 2 skulls expiring every 0.2 seconds ... which is interesting for wardloop mechanics, wink nudge! You can get the 2 skulls either with sabo triggerbots or stacking quality with enhance and Ashes (or super high awaken enhance by itself). This would take out a lot of the opportunity cost of wardloop in gems etc. away. And even by itself enable things like bladefall/bladeblast in just one 4link item with amulet, ward boots&helmet and perma flask (as only need to cover the 420 heartbound damage). Or stack the looping to enable having phys dmg reduction via end charges or dmg taken as... I would love to see a build using these. :)

You're mostly right about the whole MF gear thing. Most of the juice we get comes from map and monster modifiers, not gear. That being said, it's always recommended to fit as much quant gear on your character as you can comfortably.

Yay, another build I can't play due to being at work when charms were bought up.

Awesome, i love scolds bridle, i played with it last league in a cyclone self-trigger vengeance

I like this build she just cant die with path finder and literally can afk anything except the ground effect like burning ground

Easiest natural 100 build for me. ❤

I certainly picked a strange time to come back into this game.. the drops are kinda juicy to be sure, though I havent had any double hh drops lmao... Nice build too, kinda in my wheelhouse I like brainless builds like righteous fire, minions etc

@subtractem, you could concider putting bleed immunity on a flask, and using `The Golden rule` and changing watcher eye to poisons do not affect you. Gentle touch gloves could also give you additional clear. If you have that, the charm / jewel affix `cursed enemies % chance to explode 25% of life as chaos` will super juice the effect of the obliteration

Thanks for build gona try my self :D

its a little sad to think that most of these cool builds will only last until the end this league... forest should go core

Singlehandedly saved the league for me, no more raging my 6 portals away

Area DOTs will slaughter this build in milliseconds.

This build looks insane

Congrats on getting Build of the Week!

"One of the hardest content in the game" *proceeds to walk casually*

this build is way more accessible than the chieltain variant that feels really bad to run without the 20 div fulcrum.

cool a build i can farm for now where my SRS is fully geared

That’s why people have been buying that helm from me for 60-140 c lol

Nooo, the secret is out :D But I would argue you skip scolds and just go unbroken circle flask instead. Should also look into getting Lead by Example on a megalomanic for free onslaught

It looks epically fun ;D

you heard about warcry, here's walkcry

I think this is cool but it's basically just the fulcrum build minus some DPS, and minus the magic find items

I have a similar build with Ascendant and Lightpoacher jewel stacking with 6 socket replica shroud of the lightless. All jewels have Minion damage inc with minion skill used recently. Scourge claw. Charges generated by worm flasks. Charges maintained by agnostic/archmage in helm/arrogance + lvl 1 vitality combo. Even with only 6 points in Huntress (Because I can't find the boss for some reason) ascendancy it's blasting t16s.

@anthonymonterrosa6242

7 ай бұрын

Can you share pob pls :)

@tylerroady8697

7 ай бұрын

POB?

I was able to snag 2 min endurance charges + explode charms which makes the whole thing auto work with just the shield

Can't say I've ever seen 'Scold's Bridle' or 'The Eternal Apple' ever being used in a build before. Some cool opportunities for experimentation this league for sure!

helm with corrupt starting from 65 div, before video it was 1 div this is ridiculous.

Crazy build bro 😝

Damn the prices shot the roof. Glad I got in on time haha

Super build, just one problem That Which Was Taken Crimson Jewel 300 div. ! ..................It would have been nice if I had missed something

@Chronor007

7 ай бұрын

Dude... As he said only the explode mod is mandatory and currently costs around 3D, the rest ist nice to have. Dont let the build die on that detail, it works just fine.

@topitj308

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the encouragement ! I compromised with the carm , but the right helmet and Crimos jewel are priceless . It works build , but not like in the tutorial . It was a waste of money to spend on the character .

oh I see, the Amumu build

Well this explains why a bunch of pathfinders were buying my 20/20 cast when stunned gems today.

Nice build showcase using some uncommon mechanics interacting with each other, might not be the most efficient but definitely very big brain. For a quicker and more manual version, do you think Consecrated Path of Endurance as a method to expend endurance charge would work? and maybe Replica Farrul's Fur as a mechanic to sustain endurance charge?

Jeeeezus. The currency inflation is wild. Magic find kind of busting the economy.

It would be nice if they make this into a support gem or on a new unique seeing as how the charms most likely won’t go core.

The no mageblood version doesn't utilize bloodnotch/im. Force. Does anyone have some tips on how to get that integrated with that pob? I'm guessing the survivability will be a lot worse with that version.

I am doing the same thing with my fulcrum magic find build while rarely dying, but that build probably needs a nerf. The nice thing about magic find is that you can justify using winged scarabs, which give you more loot overall. It's probably not too profitable without magic find to be running those.

You know it's build made for Subtractem if You need a couple of pages just to write down its whole name 😂

Cool build

Hi, what you think about use progenesis instead taste of hate? i'm take some HS i think because the mod crit multiplier

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

yes it's great, just not in this video because it was 100D flask at time of recording

gosh now i want to build the screamer build aswell... old guy with 20 skulls wasnt enough

this looks so fun. i wanna try it so bad, but the budget is crazy….

Looks really fun to play! I have a question: do you think this would also be possible, maybe even bigger, with a slayer? I have a really strong KB Deadeye and don't want to respec into PF 😂

Quick questions: Can this skill crit? Could we scale it by converting phys to elemental and then use either crit/EO to scale damage further? Is the explosion effected by base damage, like battlemage? (more spell damage from Arcane Blessing?) Very cool build!

@cacahca56

7 ай бұрын

You can try looking on wiki

@Chronor007

7 ай бұрын

according to the video this is neither an attack nor a spell, so spell dmg wouldnt work. I dont see why conversions wouldnt work, although it would be very difficult to reach meaningful converted as and added as levels without support gems for probably not very efficient scaling.

Congrats on the Spotlight.

How do you use "alchemist's mark / infernal cry"?

Some people saying "i see MB i leave/ to expensive " when he multiple times says there is a version without MB and even provides the pob for the non MB version. That said this league MB is cheap af and its easiest League to farm currency. I dont see hin claim that the build was cheaper then a few divs anyway. This is not a budget league starter. More like a 2nd build to chill /afk farm with.

im starting to think that GGG needs to add an affix that says "additional 10% reduced damage taken over time." for what base type they put it on i have no idea.

Can I fit progenesis in this build and is it a good idea to do so?

Snap up those items before inflation boys!

Hi again. What level we need to put this build to work? Im 65, war cry, auto is working but corpses doesnt spawn . Ty adv

@user-yi1qp2zw7o

6 ай бұрын

hes using corpse walkers otherwise you use desecrate.

original creators of builds like that has math phd i think

cheeeeeeeeeeeesr god dang man this is hilariously satisfying and insanly amazing but i just seriously love it.thisa and captia nlances trickster are literaly the most insane parts of this league ever. the amonut of borrowed power nad loot this league must have bene isnane and im glad i didnt league start and didnt start till motnh 3 to kinda leanr and experiment to be ready to go hard 3.24 but i didnt have enough irl time for thisl eague cause its all insane hahaha CNAT WAIT OT SEE HOW MUCH OF THESE THINGS THEY GUT AND MURDER AND RUIN FOR US IN 3.24 cause mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn max res cap, 5k hp, and 30k armor 30k eva qwith barkskin and flasks and molten shell on a my toxic rian pathfinder feles TERRIBLE FOR EALRTY RED MAPPING THIS LATE IN THLE EAUGEW LFMAO and thats WITHOUT the leauge mechanic. generic defenses and suppression and stuff just dont work anymore and its painfully hard to learn and solve for it rippppppppppppppppppp

Having this build hit 100% chance to poison is a pain in the ass

@Thunderstruck35s

7 ай бұрын

the tree, and a 60% increase of herald of agony buff on the ring gets you overcapped easily

@Thunderstruck35s

7 ай бұрын

oh and glove

One jewel, 120 divines lol. Looked fun while it lasted :)

@vitt4300

7 ай бұрын

which jewel?

@beasthaven1571

7 ай бұрын

^Which ones that

@efizzle9309

7 ай бұрын

That which is now at 150 🤦🏼‍♂️

@Chronor007

7 ай бұрын

You dont need a that which was taken with ALL those mods! The explode mod is the only mandatory one.

@ChrisWhiton

7 ай бұрын

​@@Chronor007Yeah I'm well aware, but I personally wouldn't go for it unless I could get the corpse health too.

Gameplay just looks like a poison version of the fulcrum build. I do live autobombers though.

What map modifiers should be avoided for this build?

Is Low tolerance required on a cluster jewel? Can't find one of those on trade... crafted one with student of decay in its place. Wondering if that will significantly hurt the DPS

Could you swap a poison exsangunate build into using war cries by chance to use this kind of setup with the ability to ditch the helmet for something better?

the megalomaniac is a little tricky :P any other suggestions to look for instead of exposure therapy and wicked pall ? i suppose uncompromising is a must for the deter resrv effic.

@Cantstop991

7 ай бұрын

Wicked pall is pretty interchangable with both Unwaveringly Evil and Unholy Grace as all 3 give the chaos damage. Any with a large amount of DoT multi and/or life% should be pretty good too.. even area of effect.

Has anyone tweaked this somewhat around scaling phys damage clusters or chaos/dot multi clusters? The magebloodless one has chaos/DOT clusters while most higher-end ones are scaling phys dmg. Seems that I can't set up POB properly to see real differences between those so I wondered if getting large cluster with standard phys - Force multiplier, Iron breaker and master the fundamentals + medium cluster with brewed for potency (i.e. flask charges) would be more effective. Anyone tried it?

@starlet328

7 ай бұрын

i m using grim oath, wicked pall, unwavering evil, feels better than phys damage cluster, sub has also transition away from phy cluster - u can check his player profile. i dunno how to config it in POB but it just feel better in game. Also if u swap out CWS with pinpoint to boost ur single target. only running 1 med clus - low tolerance with unwavering evil. Good luck Exile

At what level do you think you can switch to the build? What did you level with?

I can do T16 on my chieftain Fulcrum but got only 50 quant and 233 rarity i dont know if that is good enough or if i should aim for more. I was thinking to add a distillate in the build but i need freeze and chill immune without pantheon. Well only chill immune because i run arctic armor

damn when I run 7k+ wisps on t16 im lucky if I get one divine.

What's a good replacement for the Megalomaniac?

Is there a way to make this build work with Original Sin? I have the ring and kind of want to use it. Sounds so much fun! Can you convert most of the explo dmg to elemental?

Any map modifiers to 100% avoid? Only thing I'm missing is Progenesis but I still get one-shot occasionally.

might try that :) Can you make a fun totem build cant find much arround thx!

Where is the video with the strat you are talking about at the begining ?

Anyone know the budget for this one? Might be the last one before dropping the league

@joseguerrero8674

7 ай бұрын

17:49 Options for chance to poison on hit

Gluttony belt for self hit for non mageblood

Do you think implementing progenesis would be a good addition instead of taste of hate? Loving the build has some holes still (some over time damages)

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

progenesis is great but it doesnt help dots. for dots you can use soul of arakaali and lethe shade, even better add in the 10% less dot taken mastery. i did that today for doing super hard maps.

@jasonsutherland7662

7 ай бұрын

@@subtractem swapped to corpsewalker boots and progenesis so far very comfortable running juiced t16 buriels running the abyss strat steadily gaining exp while still farming is very nice aspect

@zhishuenng

7 ай бұрын

How do you cap your Chaos resistance if you swap to Corpsewalker? I'm guessing Amethyst Ring/Flask?

i was asking myself how beginner friendly ist this build?i just started and im super into the game and im alrdy thinking about doing another build...i might di this

do we need to keep finding the kitavas herald after every logout?

Does anybody know what is that warcry mtx? Never seen that on sale in the regular shop

Does the chaos mastery: Convert 40% of physical damage to chaos damage not work with the corpse explosions?

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter. You can poison with physical damage.

23:45 what is skill effect duration good for?? Poison isn't scaled by this

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

everything else, warcry effect etc

This is pretty much a poison version of the Fulcrum build I'm playing then?

Thank you Mr.Subtractem for bringing this to the light, i thought my stuffs for this build will never gets sold for 1 div, but just got a large sum of money for just the impossible escape and lose endurance charge jewel didnt have a bloodmage to go with it though, so this probably is much better So in return I'd like to return the favour by suggesting a better way imo to self dmg consistantly. Just an idea that I use recently that might be better to self dmg is heartbound loop + dark marionette spectre setup, with guardian blessing and infernal legion + 1 aura on a 4L, they create a loop of self damaging for eternity, while also gives you pretty good uptime on an additional aura when you need it. A bit more explaination in my video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aHqDxY-tqc2to7w.html

Does the warcry pop count as spell damage? If so we can easily cap poison chance w/ septic spells

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

no

why cant do 4 aura on helm say not enough mana reservation?

Wow only a mageblood! Great can't wait. 😆

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

i shared a non-mageblood version. watch the video.

So the reservation implicit on the helmet (90% blah blah) apparently costs 50 div... makes no sense considering the normal helm is like 1c lol. Also its required because if you dont have that the pob breaks and u no longer can run the auras.

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

that's just people price fixing for a couple days after a video is released, it's normal in the poe economy. wait a few days and it'll be cheap again.

@amesty371

7 ай бұрын

until price fix you can just run w/o herald of purity, damage is enough

is it good to compare with fulcrum build?

Why do you want wicked pall's skill effect duration?

What is the reason for using general's cry instead of infernal cry as the third warcry in the loop?

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

Short cool down

@rotexor

7 ай бұрын

@@subtractem but if all the 8 second ones reach 2.99 then it perfectly loops 1 cry per second no?

Does Progenesis flask help or hurt ?

how much it will cost if i do this build right now

Yeahhhh currently the jewel costs 1 mirror

can it do 7k Juice in 8 mod maps? I play penance brand (poison PF already) But the juice is not handleable. I need probably a Mahuxotl builds :/

@subtractem

7 ай бұрын

I've done 10k easily with this build yes.

Are the corrupted helm implicits necessary?

@Cantstop991

7 ай бұрын

The 90% reservation one is yes, even with it you're left with like 13 mana. The other implicit he has does nothing since none of the auras in the helm are curses.

how does one get a third aura? i have charisma but my auras are 40% 40% and 20%

@riviar3055

7 ай бұрын

He's got a determination 50% reservation passive in his megalomaniac + 90% reservation corrupted helmet