Just flip it /reverse it where the sensors aren't touching your skin on your arm so it stops ,and doesn't use up the battery ,plus you won't lose it being its still on your arm.

@TaiWiggy47

10 ай бұрын

I never would’ve thought of that tbh 🤯🤣

@rainerrain9689

10 ай бұрын

@@TaiWiggy47 You know how it is , sometimes the answer/solution is right in front of us, but we tend to dwell on the problem at times and the answer gets lost.

@supjay3945

6 ай бұрын

Yea sometimes one sees somethin that others dont and vise versa

@vegekou100

3 ай бұрын

Simply nailed it 😂👏🏻

@rainerrain9689

3 ай бұрын

@@supjay3945 This is true too.

I think you can only recommend what features it has at launch. Who knows what COROS will add but I'd say right now I'd go with the Polar.

Really enjoying this device, been using it as part of a beta test for a month and the accuracy is amazing, simple and easy to use. Love the pairing with 3 devices too! As always great video!

Great review! Thanks!

Since you brought it up... would love to see some recent reviews of arm bands.....

Love your quality reviews!! Completely off topic, but i heard you mention trainer road and zwift, how do you combine them? do you have a prefference for either of the two, and why? maybe worth a video ?

Greetings from Malaysia! Thank you for your in depth review. I have a question, whats the size of the strap? Is it 22mm or 24mm?

I love the Polar Verity Sense but quite often I forget to start it before the race (still used to chest HRMs that auto start) and then I have to let go the handlebar with one hand to start it, and then go through the pairing menus of the watch and the Wahoo Elemnt to find it.

I often find my Wahoo Tickr having issues - this looks to be an nice alternative that I don't have to worry about placement or contact points too much!

I would not say that the battery of the Coros HRM is more or less like the Polar Verity Sense's. It's about twice as much time. If you're referring to the missing button to turn it on/off, so that just keeping it on without doing anything means it's still consuming battery, so you can take care to remove it or at least turn it upside down so it won't recognize being worn.

Do, or will any of these allow you to start/stop from the watch? Varity has been out for a while and may be do for an upgrade. This would be one I'd like to see, where it starts recording when I start the exercise on my watch (Polar) instead of when I press the start button or it touches my skin.

Can i just wear the watch itself on my arm since i have a small arm? Technically it should yield the same results?

My second Garmin strap just disintegrated after 1 - 1.5 years of use... The glue and the rubber just don't hold up. I don't even swim in a swimming pool. If you want recording, non-optical, running metrics, ant+ and bluetooth; do i even have an option other than buying another Garmin?

Accurate and really long battery. Thats all that is needed

Have you tested a Coospo HW9 perhaps? Wondering how it will compare seeing it supports HRV.

Could you use the device names when you are comparing then instead of holding one and saying “this”. That requires constantly looking at screen instead of running in the background while listening:) or sometimes hard to understand which one you ate holding 6:41 also when you say “this is very well executes stability” what do you mean? Executed by the runner/you? Or another device capturing the data?

Thank you

Does the company have any information on how it works on different skin types? I know Garmin watches sometimes find it difficult to read some darker skin tones,,

"What do I know about sports tech" made me laugh out loud🤣🤣🤣

does Bluetooth-only mean it won't pair with Zwift if I am broadcasting power+cadence via Apple TV (device limit is 2)?

Why don’t you compare this to the Scosche? You haven’t mentioned it in a while?

If they could get a bit more battery life out of it they could’ve made a much more compelling case I feel. I’m charging my Polar a lot and it’s rather annoying so I thought this could be an option but if it’s a wash then never mind 😅

Coospo armband review please 🔥

What about the Apple Watch, accuracy wise comparing to the products you compared in this video?

I went with polar verity sense because by connecting with ANT+ to my Garmin I can get threshold HR... as accurate as a Garmin HR strap, without an allergic reaction to tbe pads!

@rainerrain9689

10 ай бұрын

What do you mean by allergic reaction ?

@Kunal636

10 ай бұрын

You can’t get threshold HR with the Coros? Uh?

Garmin should have this charging method!

@stefanocaon

10 ай бұрын

Maybe on Fenix 8

I read your article about this and you say that the most accurate position for a HR monitor is on your upper arm. Do you mean for this particular unit or in general for all HR monitors? I always thought conventional wisdom is that the Chest was the best place for a HR monitor.

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

For optical HR sensors. Chest is great for traditional sensors, albeit has its own challenges in cool dry conditions (like fall).

I’m not sure if your dumbing down videos so you can relate to the audience or your just honest. But when you said it uses a sensor I about died. Lol

Will the battery life of a watch be longer by using an external HR sensor? I'm assuming that the battery cost of the Bluetooth connection is lower than the optical HR sensor from the watch.

@Jajary1

10 ай бұрын

Depends on the watch. How power-demanding is the particular sensor on the watch. With Apex 2 pro, from my tests, paired BT HR sensor takes around 5-10% more battery. So not much, but it's definitely not gonna increase the battery life of the watch (at least for Coros, I am not sure how much power draws HR sensors on Garmin).

Extra sass today:)

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

Ask and I shall deliver. Didn't ask? I shall still deliver.

This is still an optical sensor, how well would it work for say - weightlifting or HIIT where your HR goes up and down rapidly?

@Asthbendriel

10 ай бұрын

The Polar Verity Sense works very well, it takes a toll on exercises that are heavily focused on the position of the sensor you have, and you are flexing, but that only translates in a small delay on detecting changes in heart rate, not having crazy readings or something like that. Because of that delay, you may miss some peaks if that's important for you while doing weight training or HIIT (if applicable). I have been using a verity sense for Z2 cardio sessions, weight lifting and mountain biking for a year and that is my experience so far. When it comes to this Coros sensor, it seems like the algorithm is not as polished as the one from Polar (which is something to be expected as it is a product with more iterations, time in the market and a few firmware updates behind) but it has the potential to get to what Polar is doing right now.

Are the graphs you showed representative of a larger sample size, or are you making a judgement on just a couple of samples?

Ah, why is Coros not making a these with their legendary battery life and an accelerometer? A non-subscription whoop with accurate HR will even get me to leave Garmin. Are they doing it not to risk watch sales?

It's wild that Coros got mad at you over this. Seems a totally fair review to me.

@klapaucius515

7 ай бұрын

Where did you get that they did?

This strap reminds me of a hack I did for honor band, when got tired of swapping silicone straps: sewn some underwear elastic with a buckle out of a bike spoke

Does the Coros heart rate monitor fit people with large arms or it just for runners/cyclists?

Can it pair with an Apple Watch?

Does this device not have a step counter? Is it just a heart rate monitor? I would like a device like this that has an accelerometer to count steps. I already have the Coros Pace 2 and wanted an invisible one for when I am using other watches. Lost opportunity.

@mposh

4 ай бұрын

Doesn't the Pace 2 have a step counter?

Can I wear it on wrist like a watch?

Well, by turning off when not in contact with skin it is already better than my Garmin Fenix 5, on which the HR LEDs will remain on, blinking quickly at random intensity for random periods of time, after I put the watch on the desk, happily eating the battery (which, after a few years, is about 2-3 days, from 100% to 0%, without any GPS recording and without activating the backlight at all).

@Fozzee.1970

10 ай бұрын

It's not a watch?

@jk0000079

10 ай бұрын

@@Fozzee.1970 yes, it's a watch. I am just saying, that despite of the "meh" things apparent from Ray's review, they seem to have done at least something right. (and it's a bit of me letting out some steam about Garmin's smart-watches battery runtime degradation after a few years of use)

How is the accuracy affected by cold weather? This in where I expected optic sensors to be superior. So far my results have been underwhelming.

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

For better or worse, it’s mid summer here. But typically speaking armband optical HR sensors are rarely, if ever, impacted by cold weather. Whereas wrist ones are very much impacted.

You mentioned that ANT+ wasn't that important other than for legacy devices. I just purchased the Coros HR and my latest version Wahoo Bolt V2 can't even detect it but my zwift, Garmin watch and phone can. I appreciate it's a known Wahoo problem but I never have a problem with ANT+ sensors so is Bluetooth smart actually better than ANT+?

@Dcrainmaker

Ай бұрын

Hmm, I'll try the COROS to Wahoo issue. As for ANT+ vs Bluetooth Smart, yeah, there's lots of pros and cons. But in general, compatibility tends to be near-universally perfect on ANT+, whereas Bluetooth includes the (rare, but still annoying) compatibility issue. We don't tend to see that much on the Heart Rate profile, but rather power meters it's far more common.

@ckspark2

Ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker I have just received a reply from Coros, they have confirmed that other people have also been unable to connect the Wahoo Bolt V2 and have offered a full refund and return shipping.

@Dcrainmaker

Ай бұрын

@@ckspark2 Ok, gave it a whirl on the Wahoo ROAM V2 (which, shares the same firmware as the BOLT V2), and indeed, it's not working. Huh. I've just shot off a note to Wahoo to see what's up.

I bought this and requested a return a few minutes after getting it from Amazon. The sensor may or may not be good. That is entirely irrelevant if it hurts to wear since it's only made for people without any bicep muscle mass. My biceps are small compared to body builders and weightlifting buffs. It will not open up enough to fit comfortably. It is painful to wear. They label the strap as size medium when in reality it's the only size available.

Thanks for the review. I use my chest strap on trail, something tells me this arm band won't be very accurate.

😂 normal coffee shop, a special Amsterdam one after work out would be way too much too handle. - looks good been thinking about the coros stuff instead of garmin, got a Suunto 9 had a while the app is rubbish and watch has started freezing. Think is this tech just doesn’t last long overall it sucks

Can you wear it sleeping and then not wear the watch that is so large? And of course get the hr/sleep data?

@Dcrainmaker

Ай бұрын

While you can wear it just fine, unfortunately, COROS doesn't take that data from the strap except in workout periods.

I bought a Scosche based on reviews and it is not even as good as a Garmin watch HR monitor. I am a .. serious.. athlete with decades of HR data currently recovering from heart surgery and it’s important to me to actually know what is going on. I still cannot trust this data but would be really interested in a long term review. If I am doing any kind of a real workout I only trust my HR strap.

@veganpotterthevegan

4 ай бұрын

I wish I could trust my HR strap😂

ill stick to my Polar verity sense, thanks for the review ;)

Keep it on arm not to loose it after the workout but to save the battery flip it over. This way will not touch the skin and it will stop. You're welcome ;)

Couldn't you just turn it inside out if you want to keep it on and safe battery?

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

That’s true, you could.

I'm finally happy with my Tikr HRMs. For 59$ can't be beat imho. I don't know if they have any features or store data because all that gets uploaded to apps (Strava, TP, WKO, RwGPS, Garmin Connect - whew!) and bike computers. Turns out my issues with the HRM dropouts wasn't the HRM. It was the Roam and Bolt computers (both of them - probably the notorious bluetooth le/smart dumpster fire) causing the dropouts. Now that I have a Garmin Edge 1040 everything pairs instantly. (And no more forgetting my phone pairing either!)

@wheellyfinityoutlet7704

7 ай бұрын

Do you mean this is compatible with the Garmin 1040? I am thinking of getting it. Thanks

Is it good for hrv recording?

@stefanocaon

10 ай бұрын

Nop

So, the Coros costs 79 Bucks, the Polar 89? I bought a Magene H803 for 29,99 Euro (in Germany) and i am totally fine with it. Works good and i use it for Zwift. I guess, Magene did not pay enough cause there are not much reviews for this hr-monitor?

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

I’ve covered many Magene products over the years. Also, unlike many KZread channels, I don’t take any money for reviews.

Is it necessary to own a HR monitor when you have whoop??

Why isn't my, and every, chest strap rechargable with a USB?

@veganpotterthevegan

4 ай бұрын

An easy way out on warranties with batteries

Why no comparison with Wahoo Tickr that I have found to be excellent. Turns on and off with good battery life, easy washable strap.

You could flip it around when in the coffee shop

We need something like this from garmin. The sensors from the fenix 7 pro but without screen, just a bracelet. So people ca wear their luxury mechanical watches sometimes and still get all metrics. Vivosmart is ugly, fat and is not 100% compatible with the epics, fenixes and forerunners.

@aslam7952

10 ай бұрын

True. But it seems like Coros/Polar is purposely gimping battery life to encourage watch sales. Coros watches that has a lot more battery sipping hardware gets weeks of battery, but this HR/bluetooth device will only get you a day...

@suisinghoraceho2403

10 ай бұрын

The watch probably has a lot more physical batteries as well

@aslam7952

10 ай бұрын

@@suisinghoraceho2403 But the strap has way less hardware. No buttons, screen, GPS chip, WiFi chip, ANT+ chip, storage, fancy processor and ram, movement sensors, etc. And whoop/similar sized fitness bands with a screen and more sensors are able to get battery life to a week

@user-ok1mi3pw5w

10 ай бұрын

@@aslam7952 you can always charge the strap when doing an activity using a proper watch or bike computer - I can exchange battery life for compactness. You can’t use a 51mm rugged watch with an shirt. Such strap can hide and still collect and then sync all the metrics. I have marq 2 athlete - still not on par with a nice elegant luxury dumb watch.

@aslam7952

10 ай бұрын

@@user-ok1mi3pw5w But you already get compact devices similar in size (fitness bands from Fitbit/Garmin) with a week of battery life. But they do not come with comfy bands that allow you to strap it onto your bicep. If this had a weeks battery life with an accelerometer, it will be perfect side kick to an elegant watch.

USB-A is an immediate dead-in-the-water move for me.

Still not sure why youd buy an optic sensor arm strap versus a chest strap?

@adamfeerst2575

10 ай бұрын

Comfort

@veganpotterthevegan

4 ай бұрын

​@@adamfeerst2575arm strap would drive me crazy running. The chaffing on my whoop was terrible

Man, if only it tracked sleep like whoop. I would get one asap. I personally think whoop's subscription based model is ridiculous and unsustainable.

@veganpotterthevegan

4 ай бұрын

My Whoop was terrible. It made up naps I never took and often said I was asleep when I wasn't. The HR data during workouts was even worse

I don’t buy on what it might have. Simple choice here is the Polar.

But if my sports watch heart rate is accurate enough, why would I need a heart rate monitor that doesn't support running dynamics data?

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

Definitely don’t!

Wow, that data looks pretty bad actually. It's a pass for me.

I see no point in buying this design with COROS HR monitor: 1) Not much of a better offer compared to the Polar Verity Sense 2) No USB type C charger (this usb type C head connects to the charger source) and wireless charging for the sensor. Using another proprietary means another inconvenience when traveling, or you will need to buy that cable from Coros and cannot share it with other wireless charging pad devices. 3) No Ant+ 4) No skin temperature sensor If COROS doesn't brag anything about Explore Perfection it's fine by me, but they are not even close to anything perfect with this device.

Does it work on a tattooed arm?

What do you know about sports tech. . . 😂

seriously speaking: forget about Coros - go for POLAR ;-)

Have had various HR monitors that all went back for refund because they drained batteries, flakey connection etc.

@PhilippBorn

10 ай бұрын

Have you tried the Garmin HRM PRO? I have like 3000+ km on mine, on the first battery.

@adrianScu

10 ай бұрын

This comment isn't at all helpful as long as you don't state brand and model.

@davidlynch9049

10 ай бұрын

Hmm, probably not using them correctly, or you just had bad luck. The gold standard is the Garmin heart rate pro. Long battery life, very good accuracy.

@neil_down_south

10 ай бұрын

@@adrianScu polar x 2, lifeline X1 and another the brand of which I can't remember. All budget models.

Like you said it’s $1000 so I certainly hope that it is your brain and spits it back out smarter

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

Huh?

@veganpotterthevegan

4 ай бұрын

It's under $90😅

So why is the video 10 minutes long if product takes 1.5 minutes and accuracy in 3 minutes? Are you just gonna sit and stare at us for the other 5.5 minutes of this video?🤔

@Dcrainmaker

10 ай бұрын

Win some lose some, consider it bonus content/thoughts.

@veganpotterthevegan

4 ай бұрын

Why do people spend months making a movie that's 2hrs long?