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@davehenderson6896

2 ай бұрын

What's more impressive are the temps, they are very respectable.

@kamelionify

2 ай бұрын

well yeah when you cripple the wattage going to the processor.... My 14700K draws more power than that.

@davehenderson6896

2 ай бұрын

Oh so that's what they are doing.@@kamelionify

@thedesk954

Ай бұрын

You sure this was tested on 1080p with 4090? I just checked witcher 3. The FPS was minimum 200FPS

That cpu power consumption of 7800x3d 😮

@furieux6742

2 ай бұрын

The key is: Tsmc. Not shit crap intel.

@MrDrelnar

2 ай бұрын

Literally half, insane !

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

@@furieux6742 Tsmc will produce a mobile cpus for intel. Intel just cant compete anymore.

@You-ko4fn

2 ай бұрын

7800X3D be like: work smarter not harder. instead of increasing power draw, they added more cache.

@chien.nguyen.

2 ай бұрын

@@notenjoying666 No, they only produce a part of Intel's CPU, most of the parts are manufactured by Intel on the 7 nm process and the rest is processed by tsmc on the 5 nm or 3 nm process, it's not like Intel can't compete with them. AMD is just stuck with 10 nm because there are still too many undeveloped DUV machines to break even on investment. If they give up self-production or their first chips will be processed by tsmc, then AMD will be the loser. have trouble

370€ vs 730€ 83W vs 210W Intel fell asleep for 10 years

@willy7968

2 ай бұрын

CPU isn't only made for gaming

@shuyaku99

2 ай бұрын

@@willy7968 then there's the 7950X3D

@detroid89

2 ай бұрын

@@willy7968 go on, reply to the 2nd comment - we are waiting for you. ;)

@striveanime5113

Ай бұрын

@@shuyaku99 lol i've heard that 7950x is better than x3d version hahaha, not because it have x3d at the end means it is faster haha x3d is super hot haha

@Elchameau504

Ай бұрын

less wattage > less heat > smaller rad or aio > even cheaper ( and no overheat issue like 14 gen )

7 7800X3D undoubtedly the best gaming cpu.

@Ladioz

2 ай бұрын

I kinda regret not buying it but i already have 5800X3D in my PC from last year. I think ill be alright a few more years

@justsayno1734

2 ай бұрын

@@Ladioz If you already got that one, you don't need to upgrade for now.

@01AMIR09

2 ай бұрын

AMD lose - 0.1% 1% . You're too stupid to call the 7800X3D the best gaming CPU today.

@EoveinKatushkin

2 ай бұрын

However 14900KS can work with high speed DDR5, upto 8000MHz, so it's better to test it with 7600+MHz memory, Ryzen can't work with it.

@randomfootages9120

2 ай бұрын

@@Ladiozyou are good for next 7 years

4:50 AMD = 83W INTEL = 210 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@umityldrm6355

2 ай бұрын

and dont forget the usage 80% vs 50%. 210 actually half of the max consumption. thats madness :D

@angelleonardgonzaleszuniga6572

2 ай бұрын

Intel al 100% una refrigeración de auto sino se quema o baja potencia consumiendo más de 300 watts una locura

@subarubrzdream2514

2 ай бұрын

fact)@@umityldrm6355

@PanchoGDMKWii

2 ай бұрын

​@@umityldrm6355Based on news, the intel i9 14900ks draws 400W on full load...

@letssmiletogether5463

2 ай бұрын

​@@PanchoGDMKWii isn't 450 Watt under a full load!

The Ryzen 7 7800x3d is also half the price and trades blows with the i9

@josejuanandrade4439

2 ай бұрын

The price is realy the issue. That said, the i9 is better for productivity tasks... If the i9 was cheaper, we would have a debate on which one is better. I'm sure some people would go for the i9 for PCs they use for gaming and work.

@HeartOfAdel

2 ай бұрын

It doesn't. 14900KS will gain 25-30% more with fast ring/tight ddr5 ram. It's undoubtedly faster than 7800x3d in every single way. 7800x3d for normal gamers, 14900KS for people wanting the absolute fastest.

@Do0mGamerDR

2 ай бұрын

😂😂 Yeah right, Intel fanboy​@@HeartOfAdel

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

@@HeartOfAdel Hardcore copium. 14900ks not getting even 10% increase with faster memory than this. U r literally lying here.

@HeartOfAdel

2 ай бұрын

@@notenjoying666 you have no clue what memory/ring tune does on Intel lol. It shows how clueless masses are about overclocking. It's a generational leap in performance. It scales like crazy. I only have an example with 9900KS on my channel with bdie, but 14900KS has exactly identical sensitivity if not better.

4:41 damn that i9 is drawing 212 watts

@Dexion845

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely disgusting.

@TheHammerGuy94

2 ай бұрын

E cores my butt. It's not even doing anything to save power!!!

@catalinneculita4988

2 ай бұрын

Yeah 5$ more if you play 10h/day and 30days/month. So in 100 months you will save money for new proc. Logic of AMDeep guys 💪🤦‍♂️🤣

@ICRA7ED

2 ай бұрын

@@catalinneculita4988 go back to school! you failed math!

@catalinneculita4988

2 ай бұрын

@@ICRA7EDamdeeper detected :))

Ryzen has half the power consumption while maintaining the same fps

@anonymgamer3416

2 ай бұрын

And half the price

@ogen87

2 ай бұрын

@@anonymgamer3416 and generates half the heat, it will be easy to cool summer time and costs less in electricity...

@lordcommander3224

2 ай бұрын

The i9 is also running over a 1000mhz higher frequency also 😂

@MarkoMood

2 ай бұрын

@@ogen87 Please rewatch the video, the temperatures are roughly the same.

@ExclamationMarx

2 ай бұрын

@@MarkoMood That's not what they're talking about. Generating heat is not the same as being hot. The power consumption is proportional to how much heat it generates

just look at the power consumption of these two processors.... and this is me lowering the voltage on the i9 some more.

@Tifeejanz

2 ай бұрын

the electricity bill will be expensive this month

@flamingophone

2 ай бұрын

HOW THE FUCK DOES RE4 MAKE THE CPUS GO ALL THE WAY TO 270W

@qlova_posta6070

2 ай бұрын

GPUS*@@flamingophone

@NoVanity_

2 ай бұрын

@@flamingophone thats the gpu lmaoo

@jerrelljohnson8027

2 ай бұрын

Wow! Crazy difference!! 😮

The fact that 7800x3d consumes less than 60-80% of power while performing the same if not better says everything you need to know 💀

@saricubra2867

2 ай бұрын

The Ryzen 7 actually lost for perfomance, it does have the efficency advantage. The problem with the i9 are the bad voltages and bad scheduling while gaming (Hardware Unboxed showed gaming perfomance and efficency increasing by a lot with APO).

@mikehawk6918

2 ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 7800x3d is 3% faster than 14900KS on average.

@MarvoloRiddle

2 ай бұрын

82 Watts vs 212 is madness 🫣

@TyTan_

Ай бұрын

Power consumption is crazy but the 7800x3d lost in most the games...

@allxtend4005

Ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 how bad this aged now people have to use different bios settings to keep ther systems Stable with a Intel 13th and 14th gen so they lose up to 11% performance. Intel is just a joke they take so much money for ther products and from 2010 - 2018 they was bussy scaming people with high prices, without AMD and Radeon we will sit here with 4cores 8 threads for 400 or 600$

Nice. I was looking for a ~250w room heater for under $800.

I always forgot that Intel still stuck at 10nm and decided to rename it to Intel 7 instead. It's okay Intel, take your time.

@frederickspeller8117

2 ай бұрын

LOL better than calling it 10nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

@kelvinkms3671

2 ай бұрын

maybe still 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++@@frederickspeller8117

@AdiiS

2 ай бұрын

​@@frederickspeller8117 intel on 10nm beating AMDs 5nm LMAO that's true circus. AMD wouldn't even touch intel on 5nm 🤣

@thehaeggarr1625

2 ай бұрын

@@AdiiS the copium is hard

@xnutzii

2 ай бұрын

@@AdiiS Wow. I have never seen someone as delusional as you.

70W vs 170W

@user-sd8rq7ml8w

2 ай бұрын

nono dude 80 vs 200 watt xd

@auritro3903

21 күн бұрын

85W vs 210W lmao

@THOR-lk3ch

19 күн бұрын

4800mhz x 5900! I downgraded to 5ghz (x50) my i9 14900k consumes 80w totally unnecessary 6 ghz

7800X3D be like: work smarter not harder. instead of increasing power draw, they added more cache.

@niezzayt3809

2 ай бұрын

More cache doesn't immediately Translate to better performance. Intel's cache is literally laid out flat on the CCD, making its physical contact farther away from CPU cores-especially P Cores. AMD's Cache is stacked on top of main CCD cores. Making its physical contact distance shorter. Shorter distance alone already making huge difference in IPC. Because the electrons doesn't have to travel too far away. That's why Overclocking any x3D CPU from AMD will immediately revoke warranty. Because they also create foolproof measure on the CPU die to detect whether or not it's overclocked.

@Ghost-pb4ts

2 ай бұрын

Overclocking CPU for maximum fps is dead anyway In esports, you cant compare between 400-500fps and in AAA games CPU is bottlenecked by the GPU anyway @@niezzayt3809

@darthvalkyr

2 ай бұрын

Yup. Great chip. Loving it. Make me laugh the i9 running 20% higher clocks and often consuming more than double the power to match it!!

Ryzen 7 7800x3d - the best gaming CPU for a new PC building Ryzen 7 5800X3D - the best gaming CPU, who don't want upgrade AM4 socket to AM5. Intel i9 14900KS - not for gamers choice.

@mikehawk6918

2 ай бұрын

5800X3D is too expensive. Might as well buy a new mobo, DDR5 RAM and a 7500f for a little bit more and get the same performance. At least then you still have an upgrade path. 5800X3D should be 200$ MAX based on it's performance.

@yukhnevich

Ай бұрын

AMD this is not a processor for PC.

@nick1ph

Ай бұрын

@@mikehawk6918upgraded from 5900 x to 5800x3d and i have more fps everywhere its a beast and not that expensive

@EnnTomi1

Ай бұрын

@@mikehawk6918 new mobo new ram, 5800x3d right now isnt that expensive, basically like when 5600x was launched priced.

@allxtend4005

Ай бұрын

i9 is not for any choices, it is a shame what intel price this cpu at.

Ryzen cpu easy win here vs intel engine

If someone is building a new pc, I would recommend to build a AM5 system. Much better for gaming and good upgrade path!

@kelvinkms3671

2 ай бұрын

and save huge power usage

@phantom0590

2 ай бұрын

yeah, I've upgraded in the end of last year

@RohanSanjith

2 ай бұрын

Brokies

@noname-qm7lk

2 ай бұрын

@@RohanSanjith Yk intel sucks ? AM5 way better lga 1700 is dead

@grizius4123

2 ай бұрын

Low iq 😂 ​@@RohanSanjith

7800x3d👍 14900ks👎

@vovapapi-sk2zg

2 ай бұрын

Ryzen 7 7800X3D = 70 watt Core i9 14900KS = 150 watt 1:23

@esildajimenez7758

2 ай бұрын

Facts

@marcustulliuscicero3945

2 ай бұрын

In my country it is not worth buying an Intel processor because of the high electricity costs

@hquan1

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@vovapapi-sk2zgin cyberpunk test, i9 14900ks consumes up to 187w (2:50) and starfield 205w (5:06) 💀

@Deathscythe91

2 ай бұрын

but bruh , the 14900ks has a whole 100 mhz more then the 14900k BRUH you have to get it

BRUH THAT TEMP AND WATTAGE ON 14900KS ☠☠☠

@SSJBen

2 ай бұрын

I'll give you wattage. But the 7800x3D is equally as hot lmao.

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

@@SSJBen Nah. 14900k is hotter 90% of the time. And 7800x3d is using 2 times smaller node 10nm vs 5nm so its 2 times harder to cool it. +as author said he undervolted 14900ks so yeah...💀

@skywalker1991

2 ай бұрын

​@@SSJBen, awwww butt hurt Intel fanboy trying to make yourself feel better by saying , look they are equally hot , do you sob a lot looking at these benchmarks Intel always loosing , lol

@tiagomachado5360

2 ай бұрын

​@@notenjoying666 Intel is done for

@lmaoclip8131

2 ай бұрын

@@SSJBen this tester channel is intard fan boy, he use his best cooler for 14900ks and stock for 7800x3d but 87800x3d still cooler lmao

How userbenchmark will spin this as a win for Intel? This is the most important question.

@aaronogden9900

2 ай бұрын

Haha. So true. You can compare 2 GPUs or CPUs at a similar price point and have the AMD one ahead by a mile but it will still be described as a piece of sh*t at the bottom of the benchmark. Proper fanboy site😂

@primodragoneitaliano

2 ай бұрын

"In a time of record inflation, the high power consumption and temperatures of the 14900KS will both provide entertainment and heating to the user, something that Advanced Marketing Devices's 7800X3D and its "3D Cache" can only dream to accomplish" or something I suppose ? XD

@hquan1

2 ай бұрын

There is a dude in here already commented i5 13400 would get the same result against 7800x3d 🤣, so hilarious.

@primodragoneitaliano

2 ай бұрын

@@hquan1roflmao, that's a good one !

@mastroitek

2 ай бұрын

I don't think I ever red a userbenchmark review, this seems like the best time to do it 😂

2X power consumption 1 GHz higher Clock +16 Cores almost twice the cost No upgrade path 5% slower Edit - Needs a 360mm AIO to run it

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

360? You think 75 degrees WHILE GAMING is okay? Imagine any workload on it... 420 minimum...

@ag8912

2 ай бұрын

​@@notenjoying666nah a quality 360 is enough. But still too much lol

@HeartOfAdel

2 ай бұрын

1. Destroys it in multi threading. 2. Destroys it in PC snappiness and latency 3. Destroys it in gaming with fast tuned ddr5 (can do 25-30% better than here) 4. Literally destroys it in everything speed related besides horrendous efficiency and price. But you gotta pay for the fastest.

@ArnikoGiri

2 ай бұрын

@@HeartOfAdeldestroys it in gaming? Wut are you smoking? am talking about gaming, don't care about multitasking at this price. Its a glorified 13900k

@HeartOfAdel

2 ай бұрын

@@ArnikoGiri can you read bro? With fast tuned ddr5 and tuned ring clocks. They'll give a ton more fps to that chip, xmp is absolutely crap for a i9 KS cpu.

It's like Intel brings a gun to a knife fight but also brings the wrong ammunition every time.

thanks to the 7800x3D, I can use air coolers like the Noctua L9x65. 90mm fan, no AIO

You gotta add the power to end graphs. The dif is nuts

You should include wattage useage in these for the final result.

As an XOC guy myself I would like to share a few words of my own first this guy has paired the 14900ks with ddr5 6000 which is not the highest speed ram which it can support unlike the r7 7800x3d which would not even show any difference with any faster ram because its already reached the limits of the infinity fabric so by this what I want is while the 7800x3d is paired with the fastest possible ram it can support which would actually make a difference the 14900ks on the other hand is not so just to make this comparision a little bit more even pair it with atleast ddr5 7200 also you've told that you have undervolted the 14900ks and with my experience with overclocking and also undervolting the 14900ks it works best with the voltage it comes out of the box with about 1.4V if you try to downclock or undervolt this cpu it will make it perform worse undervolting the 14900ks only makes sense if you don't have enough cooling capacity but then why even bother buying the 14900ks also you've told us absolute nothing about which motherboard you are using for the r7 since mobos could make a difference too that matters as well and lastly it is the SP of the cores of both of the processor you've got that matters also your i9 might have worse cores that other i9's and your r7 might have better cores from other r7's and from all this I don't necessairly mean that either one of them is worse the 7800x3d is the best processor for gaming both in it's price point and from AMD andis meant more for consumers who plays games more than tinkering with settings in bios while 14900ks is meant for enthusiast like myself who like bios and making and breaking records more than playing games but what I'm saying is the 7800c3d is paired with the best it could support while the 14900ks is not and one last more thing which I would like to add is that $749 pricetag might not be worth it to consumers but to us it is I mean almost PS- r7 7800x3d is the best gaming processor for normal consumers while the 14900ks is the best gaming processor for enthusiasts although it was not meant to be a gaming processor but rather some to break oc records on PPS- don't mind any mistakes in it, it was a handful typing this Edit: also I see people in the comments taking about power consumption and to that I would say the reason intel processor in whole not only consumes more power but also performs worse than they were meant to is cuz they are on an older processor node compared to AMD and now I know many people will say why pay more for an older process node so that's a whole other debate topic which I don't even wanna get into Edit 2- Y'all don't say I don't even own a 14900ks to begin with I've got 8 of em yes 8 I bought 8 to test those 8 14900ks's seperately and then keep the one with the best silicon or the god bin one and sell the others to my homies for cheaper

@skirmich

Ай бұрын

Agreed on the RAM Speed being a Handicap for Intel but at least lets agree that the efficiency for the work is ridiculously low.. 50% Usage at 210watts vs 80% Usage at 85watts? I am sorry but the intel is only good at winning OC contests that affect 0.001% of the population for everything else is a horrible pick over AMD.

@XTheGaimzX

Ай бұрын

To start, this comparison IS fair to have the same ram speed. Letting the intel have faster speed is very clearly not making it fair LOL. 4 months ago eTeknix released a video comparing the i9-14900k with the 7800x3d and albeit its a 14900k and not 14900ks, your theory about memory speed was proven wrong on nearly every title he tested (42) especially when it came to 4k resolution. The 7800x3d managed to beat the 14900k in most titles using 7600mhz cl38 ram for both cpus, which performed worse on the amd than the 6000mhz cl30 ram it prefers. Also, theres games that benefit from 6000mhz+ ram speed on the 7800x3d, that is not the max speed it can support. The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu PERIOD. If you have to spend 2.5x as much, draw 2-3x the power, run 25% faster ram and generate 2-3x the heat just to perform equal or 1% better in gaming, you lost. the 14900ks is the best for overclocking records like you said but if its for gaming go x3d. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4uf1JV_hpiWqKw.html video for reference

Waiting DirectSr plus a few patches later. Besides long term usage favors x3d , even not mention power consumption.

I would like to see the same benchmark with Intel Apo(Application optimisation) active in advanced mode to see the difference.

The 7800x3D sometimes has higher temps, interesting. I guess accessing the 3D cache generates a lot of heat?

@SweatyFeetGirl

2 ай бұрын

smaller chip = more energy in a smaller area = higher temperature. intel has large chips in comparision and can easier remove heat

@mitsuhh

2 ай бұрын

Yes my 7800x3d can sometimes get to near thermal throttle temp on an air cooler (but doesn't reach throttle).

@thedarkele

2 ай бұрын

And AMDs heatspreader is too thic

@josejuanandrade4439

2 ай бұрын

The 3dv cache, the way is stacked, makes it harder to cool. I currently have a 5800x3d, and yes you need good cooling.

@Tconl

2 ай бұрын

I got 40 degrees idle, 50 degrees just browing.

I was going to make a ‘best $360 I ever spent joke’, but I l realized that could be interpreted both ways because of the insane price difference here.

Thanks for this Video, i just ordered my 7800X3D & 4080 Super!

I am mainly playing simulator games and I was surprised to see that AMD's chip performs better in MSFS. It used to be Intel IIRC a few months/year ago? I am an intel user (an old 9800X from the now stopped X series) and seriously start to consider AMD as an upgrade.. I am not interested in overclocking as I live in hot country (during summer months) so this is an extra plus point for switching to AMD. Only thing is I've seen in YT that there are some issues with some combinations of certain mobos with AMD cpus they can slowly cook/fry the cpu (and even the mobo itself) even on stock settings.. Intel platforms were traditionally more robust and stable and cpus could not be damaged easily even under OC..

Processador monstruoso esse ryzen 7800x3d a eficiência energética é o que maia chama atenção nele! Verdadeiro Rei do games!

When u test solo games i would love to see the performance on 1440p.maybe 4k cause these builds are made for 4k and 2k res imo. I know is a comparison between these 2 in the cpu intensive scenes when u test on 1080p u mainly testing for lows 0.1% in competitive games but for solo players 0.1% matters less. Average fps and 1% lows wich are minim fpses without stutter that's what concers us more.

@palapapa1510

2 ай бұрын

They test it at 1080p with a 4090 to artificially create a cpu limited scenario to highlight differences between CPUs. For solo games at 1440p and 4k, it's a GPU limited scenario where there is no difference between all last gen CPUs. So take the cheapest AM5 CPU and you'll be fine for a few years and be able to upgrade to another generation later. Buying high end cpu for solo gaming is usually a waste of money.

@allxtend4005

Ай бұрын

@@palapapa1510 no it is bs 1080p for 14900ks and 7800x3d ? what a joke, you will be suprised how much better the Ryzen run with how much better FPS then the i9 in higher resolutions.

thank you for this, friend!

Could you add the power draw in watts at the wall? Using a power meter. For the computer, minus the monitor or anything else?

Even though AMD is not good at graphics cards, it shows that it is the best when it comes to processors.

@Eleganttf2

2 ай бұрын

Be careful you're gonna get attacked by the rampant AMD Radeon fanboys now 😂

@justsayno1734

2 ай бұрын

How are they not good in graphic cards? Literally the second best gaming graphic card is made by AMD...😉

@MrA-ir3me

2 ай бұрын

@@justsayno1734 It is not. When accounting for features, power draw and RT performance, the 4080 Super is just the better card overall out of the two. I wouldn't look at RX 7900 XTX right now, it made sense only when the 4080 was $1200+, but right now the 4080 Super just killed it. BUT I agree saying AMD is not good at GPUs is pretty stupid.

@Eleganttf2

2 ай бұрын

@@justsayno1734 a wise man would not look at ONLY the gaming performance but the WHOLE gpu itself, if AMD offers good software support and gpu features like Nvidia then AMD Radeon wouldn't have to deal with their low marketshare but until then Nvidia will keep dominating the gpu marketshare

@JaspyLee

2 ай бұрын

I think when you look at used prices for recent nvidia cards, it’s really pretty price competitive with the AMD stuff. But the features and driver support are way, way ahead. They’re even moving away from the clunky old nvidia control panel with the new nvidia app beta.

that intel power wattage makes me cry in european

Good evening. It's practically 2.5 times more energy consumption to get almost the same FPS in starfield.

So glad I ordered the 7800 last week.

7800x3d is a real gift to gamers half the price intels top stuff for same performance on average half the power draw so you can get cheaper mobo does not heat up like the sun so you can get a air cooler

@xXXEnderCraftXXx

2 ай бұрын

You know the B650 boards also work well woth R9s.

@Deathscythe91

2 ай бұрын

@@xXXEnderCraftXXx no shiit sherlock

I think it would be better to test both processors with tuned DDR5 to see their maximum capabilities. 6000CL30 is fine for R7, but the i9 can make use of 7200CL34 tuned.

@niezzayt3809

2 ай бұрын

Doesn't really matter if Intel consuming beyond 3x more Wattage than Ryzen. Even if it does make Intel win in Benchmark, it only makes Ryzen more favorable because when Core i9 using faster DDR5 and tuned, it also increase the power consumption like crazy than what's already shown in this video. 350 Dollars more expensive, paired with even more expensive RAM, for 10 FPS gain is utterly pathetic

@dominatortitanium

2 ай бұрын

@@niezzayt3809 It might not matter to you. It matters for others. The 14900KS consuming more power doesn't matter to some people, especially where electricity is dirt cheap, the thing that matters to everyone is the insane Productivity advantage Intel offers. But in this testing, it's the best of both AMD and Intel, so why not test them in the best case scenario? Also Zen 5 is supposedly having better memory controllers, so it will be reference to test memory scaling too.

@niezzayt3809

2 ай бұрын

@@dominatortitanium when you say Productivity, this channel doesn't even test that Productivity at all. So even if this channel does Actually make the video with your RAM suggestions, they will still Only Benchmarking games, and makes Intel even more pathetic.

@dominatortitanium

2 ай бұрын

@@niezzayt3809 Intel is pathetic considering their poor efficiency. But the 14th Gen Lineup is a Pretty good all-rounder. And not considering efficiency, in this test the 14900KS is pretty much the same as 7800X3D, even without bringing the potential gains from using 7200 CL34 to the equation. As a gaming channel, an ideal test would have the best RAM options for each processor. You can see HWU's video on 13th Gen Memory scaling, where the 7200CL34 XMP is faster than 6000 CL30, not to mention the tuned 7200CL34 kits. Edit: Typo

@larsjrgensen5975

2 ай бұрын

@@dominatortitanium Why have different memory on the Intel to help its performance, when it already needs more cooling, more powersupply, more case ventilation? The price difference of the 14900ks compared to the 7800X3D is already enough to buy a new case, new headphones, new mouse and new keyboard. Why make the price difference even greater? If wanting a allrounder instead of gaming, the 7950X3D is still cheaper then the 14900KS.

Holy cow the differences in those 1% but especially the .01% lows are huge from one to the other.

yo brother, could you compute the Averages for all the games combined, please? for both the Avg fps and the lows! thanks a bazillion!!!

60W de consumo con el 7800X3D 😮, Una bestia de CPU

@alfonso5177

2 ай бұрын

siiiii

Starfield with intel 14900ks power consumption: am i joke to You? 😂😂😂 Buahahahaaha

So how about video editing comparisons, photo editing, or statistics crunching, or engineering modeling or music editing? We're not all gamers out here.

are you using afterburner? if so how to enable RAM clock mate?

would also like to know idle power and temps on those

@RohanSanjith

2 ай бұрын

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@monke2361

2 ай бұрын

Usually intel is better at idle power, but they still need to work on full load efficiency

@sharkey9

Ай бұрын

Intel is under 10W idling while Ryzen is around 30W

No one needs the 900 Series for 4k gaming , i7 enough

In principle, there is parity among processors) in the end everyone will take what their heart desires)

14900KS = Extreme Overclockers 14900K = Productivity 7800X3D = The Ultimate Gaming Experience

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

Howewer memory oc record was made on amd am5 platform.

Get ddr5 7600mhz + for i9 or any other intel 12gen and up and test it again. You will have to see difference, or even ddr4 4000mhz + with tight timings. Why do all of these youtube benchmarkers underestimate ram speed when it comes to intel, just why 😮‍💨.

@killerrf

2 ай бұрын

Cause they are like the mainstream youtube reviewers. Dont have a clue about memory tuning.

@gabrielebarreca1335

2 ай бұрын

intel apo with advanced settings changes the situation in a profound way

@robertbolzicco9995

2 ай бұрын

Two years ago it was amd crying use faster ram, now it's Intel fans wanting the fast ram... 2% better frame rates and spend 60 bucks more.for a kit or ram. Intel lost this round. It's ok. KS chips are going to need a car radiator to keep them cool not thermal throttling.

@gabrielebarreca1335

2 ай бұрын

@@robertbolzicco9995 Intel Apo is the way +30% Rainbow six +20% Meteo Exodus

@robertbolzicco9995

2 ай бұрын

@@gabrielebarreca1335 those numbers aren't adding up in this video. Seems like a cherry picked % also it's twice the price and twice as hot.

I don't get it. In the majority of tests like Hardware-Unboxed or TechpowerUp, the 7800X3D has a better AVG and 1% low than the i9 14900K. Why is it the other way round in your tests?

@skirmich

Ай бұрын

RAM Speed being equal on Both handicap Intel so this is best case scenario for AMD. 7800X3D can only support 6000mhz memory while the 14900KS can do over 8000mhz. So if you artificially handicap the 14900KS to slow speed (Its rather slow for it) RAM you have these results.

@TyTan_

Ай бұрын

If he acctually used the i9 to its full potential its better. It can use 7200+ mt/s ram which is way higher than the 7800x3d.

When you look at the price to performance and also power consumption. There's no competition in gaming. Other applications might benefit from that 14900ks over the amd variants

As a Intel fan i am disappointed Well done amd

@skywalker1991

2 ай бұрын

Why are you a fan btw ? It's a corporation that makes computer hardware , what's up with brand loyalty , so stick to a company that hasn't produced a decent cpu since 2017 how does that benefit you ? AMD , Intel , Nvidia or any other company are just corporations, no need for brand loyalty , they won't thank you for it , but if you vote with your wallet you get better computer parts for less . What's up with this fanboyism.

@sharkey9

Ай бұрын

@@skywalker1991 Well being a "fan" of a brand can result from earlier experiences when e.g. brand A products worked flawlessly for you while brand B caused problems.

that power consumption 🤣, absolute shintel

What AIO are you using?

14900kW

@enginex99

2 ай бұрын

😂

Natty lifter with elite genetics = 7800x3d Juiced lifter with bad genetics = 14900ks

@STXNCIC

2 ай бұрын

only in gaming, in every other productivity application it's the complete opposite

@officialyashvirgaming

Ай бұрын

@@STXNCIC And remember its 1080p Testing lol not 1440p

@STXNCIC

Ай бұрын

@@officialyashvirgaming when did I say it was 1440p?

@andremessado7659

Ай бұрын

@@STXNCIC but the 1400ks cost nearly twice as much...

If you really wanna show CPU performance, you've to dial down the settings, or also include eSports title like CS2, Valorant and Dota.

I think a dogtown driving loop or a walk around the black market in cyberpunk would be better. More taxing than corpo center

Damn

And intel claims amd is selling snake oil 😂

@TestingGames A comparison could be handy of how much money had been used on electricity, let's say per half an hour or hour of gameplay on AMD and Intel CPUs.

Yup Intel lost it plain, but I do agree the Intel 12th gen i5 12400F, 12600K and 13600K were worth the money paid for em as they were able to be at par or better than AMD CPUs in same price park.

Warzone using 24gb vram 💀💀

@evilleader1991

2 ай бұрын

"allocated" not actively using

@DanielZockt247

2 ай бұрын

Warzone allocates all of your VRAM to prevent lag

@gamingcomputers7485

2 ай бұрын

Warzone seems to do it with any card not just the 4090 even if you'll use 6700 xt on 1090 you will qllpcate very close to it and 1440p you'll allocate 12 gb vram so I guess they have a point here.

Power Consumption: 2.25x Price: +$300 Performance: Almost the same Conclusion: Core i9-14900KS is a waste of silicon, money and power. Just buy a 13900K (or 7950X/3D) if you want high multithreaded performance with great gaming performance. If you don't care about that, 7800X3D is the way to go.

Double the power draw and price and 5-8° hotter while still being slower is crazy

no one is asking about bios optimisations.So i ask what are the settings in bios we should enable or disable or leave everything on Default?

AMD Win

Intel has become what AMD was years ago, extremely high power consumption cpus just to be able to compete and still falls short.

@lharsay

2 ай бұрын

It's because Meteor Lake (true 14th gen ) was a failure and they have to keep older tech on the market.

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

@@lharsay Intel sucks since skylake. 4690k was the latest rly good and insane intel cpu. Everything after it was a complete mess.

@lharsay

2 ай бұрын

@@notenjoying666 I think 8th gen, 10th gen and 12th gen were good.

I would love to helldivers 2 on your next videos since that game is very cpu heavy

Well... this video confirms me in my decision in getting a 7800x3d. And that is someone saying who only used Intel since I got my first PC, 26 years ago. 🙊

Double the power. Double the price. Same performance. What a deal!

Nobody with i9 would go with just 6000MHz RAM though. At minimum they'd get 7200MHz, but probably closer to 8000MHz.

@enginex99

2 ай бұрын

More money for extra 1-2% fps and 200w for power consumption?

@dex4sure361

2 ай бұрын

@@enginex99 If you knew anything you'd know its way more than just 1-2% FPS boost in CPU bound scenarios. Sure, 7800X3D makes most sense for most people. But its a lie to try and claim 14900K/KS doesn't beat it.

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

Most of 14900k's cant run stable even at 7800. 7600 is the fastest anyone can rly run, anything above is a silicon lottery. Also you can oc memory on amd, and tighten up the timings.

@michagysin3082

2 ай бұрын

@@notenjoying666 you can run the i9 on 8400mhz stable and can amd also do 6.4 ghz like the 14900ks p cores? i dont think so.

@notenjoying666

2 ай бұрын

@@michagysin3082 Only if you get a good 14900ks chip. Reddit is full of posts where people cant even boot with 8000 xmp profile.

What name the cooling you use in i9 gen14

Pls do benchmark of the new apo supported games.

Seeing the AMD CPU at half the price while also consuming half the power and still being within 8 FPS in every single game is just insane.

@ForzaHorizon5Player_

Ай бұрын

Performance of these CPUs is similar because of GPU bottleneck. Based on fact that I9-14900KS is under lower usage by 20%-30% than 7800X3D with the same fps, I9-14900KS seems to give much more fps than 7800X3D when both used on 100%. AMD fanboys just err. Not so easy lol.

@nolanhaines2261

Ай бұрын

@@ForzaHorizon5Player_ based on total utilization. The 14900ks has 3x the cores and 2x the threads over the 7800x3D. I would absolutely expect utilization to be lower. With 20/30% lower utilization and consuming considerably more power, that's not a good result at all. Intel fanboys I guess.

Do both processors have all the same instructions? Or is the AMD cpu one of those that you find out 5 years later it doesnt has an instruction that a new game needs to even launch

you can use higher ram speed with 14900ks to gain more fps since that cpu is for overclocking also

Вроде как, на процессоры 7800x3d меньше влияет разгон памяти, из-за быстрого кэша и делителя, было бы интересно сравнение с памятью 8000mhz на обоих процессорах

One if specifically made for gaming and the other is made for more multicore applications but the prices on intel CPUs are actually ridiculous…

Averaging the average of each game 7800X3D - 156.9FPS - 99.87% 14900KS - 157.1FPS - 100% *14900KS is .13% higher fps* Averaging the c.pwr at the end of the test (when it starts to fade) 7800X3D - 66.4W 14900KS - 170.8W *14900KS uses 2.57x more power(+104.4W)* Lowest retail price in US (5/3/24) 7800X3D - $358.99 14900KS - $663.99 *14900KS costs 1.84 times more(+$305)*

Less than half the power for the same or better performance

Do you ever experience stability problems/crashes etc. with Ryzen 7000 CPUs?

@sharkey9

Ай бұрын

Yes, I'm somewhat an early adaptor and it took many BIOS updates to fix stability issues.

@ahmetdag1340

Ай бұрын

@@sharkey9So you don't have any problem with the latest bios? What mobo CPU, and RAM do you use?

@sharkey9

Ай бұрын

@@ahmetdag1340 TUF gaming B650-plus wifi, 7600x and Gskill trident neo 6000/30. No crashes so far with newest version. Mind you, never got bluescreens, just instant reboot. Happened very rarely though.

@ahmetdag1340

Ай бұрын

@@sharkey9 Thx. Are you running the RAM at advertised speeds?

@sharkey9

Ай бұрын

@@ahmetdag1340 Well almost. EXPO loaded but some secondaries and tertiaries are fine tuned. Plus voltages, accordingly. Following Buildzoids guide "Low effort Single rank Hynix 16Gb A/M-die timings for Ryzen 7000 at 6000Mbps". Crashes happened almost exclusively with a certain game known for memory issues. Using Chrome for a long period of time watching YT with a few tabs open produced very sluggish behaviour. All gone (so far) after latest BIOS update.

Am I the only one noticing micro-stutters with the 14900KS in Warzone

The Power Consumtion from 7800x3D is really nice. My 5950x nee almost the Power from this Intel. In Cyberpunk my 5950x use 160W

I luv my 7800x3d. I upgraded from an Intel 5820k. Electric bill a little happier now.

So sad to see that i9 using 120% more energy to reach R7's perfimance, another year consecutive since 2020 to amd with the crown in gaming perfomance.

That 3D V-cache is really giving a tough time to intel flagship.. 2x and in some cases 3x the power consumption on intel part. Intel really needs to answer 3D V-cache

@Shayinator

2 ай бұрын

intel is dead

@saricubra2867

2 ай бұрын

The problem is bad scheduling on the i9s, Hardware Unboxed did some tests and increased gaming perfomance by 30% and halved the power consumptio through APO

@pravnav

2 ай бұрын

True.. Intel really needs a 3d vcache competitor or they will lose. Already losing and dying in market share for desktop pc, now with epyc destroying xeon and no one buying arc I don’t see a future in Intel lol

@Shayinator

2 ай бұрын

@@pravnav i agree with you 100% bro

what overlay do you use to record low 1% fps

@EnnTomi1

Ай бұрын

looks like normal RTSS settings

An 14900ks made by TSMC will be insane

@maanmahmoud4537

2 ай бұрын

Next 15th gen made by tsmc

The 14900KS is a CPU for enthusiasts who OC it to 6.3 GHz on liquid cooling and run 8800 MT/s DDR5 memory. But for everyone else, the 7800X3D is great.

Where to Buy the Intel Core i9-14900KS Processor in the UAE - GCC-Gamers ?

what is the software who is using to show informations ?

@aurelienfabre7854

2 ай бұрын

@@NoSkillsBro i ve nort fount section for display Pcore and ECore processor measure

They trade blows with each other, should get i9 14900ks for high end build if you dont want to sacrifice production performance.

One day we gonna see OC RAM on Intel system compared to AMD x3d cpus (with tighten timing of course)

Holy...unbelieveable, this 14900KS stock at 5.9GHz by all P-cores

Damn Intel has fallen HARD, It doesn't make sense compared to the 78x3d it's working about half as hard being roughly 50% underutilized, it temps are ok some times Little bit higher/ lower then the 78x3d, but the major concern is it's power consumption like twice the power for 4 more fps is nuts. Ik it's not gonna happen but I hope that Arrow lake is at least more efficient than its 14th gen predecessor