Copper-Based Explosive

In this video I synthesize the beautiful primary explosive tetraamine copper persulfate.
This is a fairly weak primary as far as they go, so definitely MUCH safer than something like silver fulminate or any azide.
DISCLAIMER: Even though this compound is a very weak explosive, this should still not be performed by anyone but those with formal training in handling energetic compounds. Even something like this could cause severe burns or injury if not handled appropriately,
This was done on recommendation by Guerilla Chemistry. I'm not sure if he creates videos at the moment, but if he does in the future here's the link:
/ @guerrillachemistry-ot3vs
I also didn't include any music in this video, and I plan to put out a couple more without music to get some feedback as I've gotten a lot of mixed opinions on its inclusion.
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  • @davidjones6661
    @davidjones66614 ай бұрын

    In before it's removed! Love copper complexes, even if I hate the smell of ammonia

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Hoping it doesn't get removed, KZread has been fairly tolerant of my nonsense in the past lol

  • @DisorderedArray

    @DisorderedArray

    4 ай бұрын

    Nothing like ammonia for when you have a cold with a bunged up nose!

  • @searsbear7965

    @searsbear7965

    4 ай бұрын

    I hate breathing it at work. I need it for electroplating brass but it is pungent haha

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s not practical enough to be removed. The perchlorate version is though.

  • @hirobian2
    @hirobian24 ай бұрын

    That are quite beautiful blue-purple solution and vibrant purple compound. It is fascinating how copper makes some of the prettiest chemistry.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    It is insane. You'd think there'd be some mysterious rare element that could make prettier compounds than plain ole' copper, but there really isn't. Pretty much all the prettiest chemistry is in the humble period 4 transition metals.

  • @philthompson9633
    @philthompson96334 ай бұрын

    I would have loved to see a confined ignition.

  • @mduckernz

    @mduckernz

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, quite a few primaries that seem very weak when ignited as shown can be surprisingly effective when confined Of course, the best ones tend to work very well even when unconfined… but still, it’s a useful test

  • @keithjurena9319

    @keithjurena9319

    4 ай бұрын

    Aluminum foil containment.

  • @oxoniumgirl
    @oxoniumgirl4 ай бұрын

    Now make the tetraamine copper nitrate. Perchlorate would be great too but perchloric acid / perchlorates are a wild and rare beast. Ps. I used to grow the plain sulfate of tetraamine copper as large crystals for fun. It's the most beautiful chemical compound there is in my opinion, and it is even more beautiful when the crystals are large enough to appreciate their facets. The trick with tetraamine copper compounds is to have enough excess ammonia in their solutions and their storage environment - that's how they decompose; when the equilibrium of ammonia is lower in their local micro environment than in their solution/crystal matrix the ammonia leaves via osmosis and the compound decomposes. This happens even more quickly if there is ample humidity as the water coordination complexes replace the ammonia coordination complexes.

  • @ExtremeODD

    @ExtremeODD

    4 ай бұрын

    As the compound decomposes does it become inert or more unstable? I have a small amount of tetraamine copper perchlorate that has been sitting around in an open container in a nonclimate controlled space for about a year that I've been mildly concerned about disposing of. The perchlorate is quite easy to make using a displacement reaction (if I remember correctly) using ammonium perchlorate.

  • @Linus-nq2op

    @Linus-nq2op

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ExtremeODD I assume it would get more inert, the reason why the salts of tetraaminecopper(II) with oxidizing anions are energetic is the ammonia, it ideally will be oxidizied to water and N2, which is very exothermic because of the formation enthalpy of water and forming nitrogen triple bonds. Then theres also the entropic aspect, which explains why these salts act as better primaries then the uncomplexed ammonia salts (e.g. ammonia nitrate): One molecule of Tetraaminecopper(II)-perchlorate will probably react to something like 2N2, 6H2O, CuO and whatever happens with the left over O and Cl. One molecule being split into 9 is a very large increase in entropy. In contrary, one molecule of the plain ammonium perchlorate salt decomposes into only 4 smaller molecules, 1/2 Cl2, O2, 2H2O, 1/2 N2, so theres a smaller increase in entropy.

  • @ExtremeODD

    @ExtremeODD

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for taking the time to respond and explain the science. That alleviates much of my worry about the poor storage conditions I've left that compound in.

  • @oxoniumgirl

    @oxoniumgirl

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ExtremeODD yup it should become more stable with decomposition in theory, but it's unlikely it will fully decompose and become inert just from time in storage. most likely it will lose the coordination ammonia and become copper perchlorate, which is still very energetic iirc.

  • @redmadness265
    @redmadness2654 ай бұрын

    Very cool! Love the blue color

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you! And same, one of the prettiest chemicals I have.

  • @h3yw00d

    @h3yw00d

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@integral_chemistryI think it has a prettier color than the acetate because of the slight violet hue

  • @jogandsp
    @jogandsp4 ай бұрын

    Tetraamine copper complexes decompose by losing ammonia over time. If you keep it in a sealed container so the ammonia doesn't have anywhere to go it will last longer

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    That actually makes perfect sense come to think of it^^ Maybe an ampule could keep it forever..

  • @eddywolton6397
    @eddywolton63974 ай бұрын

    I did this reaction years ago, I can smell this reaction just watching you do it

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    LMAO from the ammonia I assume?

  • @eddywolton6397

    @eddywolton6397

    4 ай бұрын

    @@integral_chemistry Yup haha, the smell gets everywhere

  • @johnslugger
    @johnslugger4 ай бұрын

    *The Green residue is Copper Oxide. This stuff you made is mixed with 20% ultra fine aluminum powder and moderated with varying amounts of Ammonium Sulfate to make solid rocket engines that can go up to 6000 Feet per second! It is also being tested by DARPA contractors for use in propelling "case-less' Ammo (bullets). A 155 grain bullet requires only 46 grains of this compound in the rear of the bullet to reach 3100FPS!!! Requires barrel that can take very high OVER-PRESSURES of 105,000 PSI. Lb. of Lb. it's 600% more potent than gun powder so you can make much smaller bullets that have more power!!! Bullet is electrically fired with Piezo ignition. Rear end of bullets are open to moisture and thus sealed with Nitro-cellulose lacquer-solution (Smokeless gun powder + Acetone) to make them water proof. Very useful compound in future wars, guns and ultra fast missiles that can travel 30 miles in 26 seconds or about mach 4.2*

  • @ohbeardedone9253

    @ohbeardedone9253

    4 ай бұрын

    You have a discord so we can talk more about this? I don’t understand those velocities when the volume of gases seem small or condense rapidity after temperature cools down several inches in the barrel.

  • @AlexanderTzalumen

    @AlexanderTzalumen

    4 ай бұрын

    I was also thinking it was most likely copper oxide, since it does have a very nice green color and doesn't readily decompose with heat.

  • @johnslugger

    @johnslugger

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ohbeardedone9253 *Heat Expands gases but once they cool down they shrink again. HEAT EXPANSION is the key to Engines and Rockets. One reason a cold engine has 20% more HP and a SUPER HOT over heated engine starts lugging.*

  • @alexeygalakhov7580

    @alexeygalakhov7580

    4 ай бұрын

    Which copper oxide is green? AFAIK, CuO is black and Cu2O is red color.

  • @johnslugger

    @johnslugger

    4 ай бұрын

    @@alexeygalakhov7580 Starts as Green copper hydroxide (CuOH2) or Copper(II) Hydroxide - When wet and turns to CuO once it drys and loses the Hydrogen atom. Both are the same green color. Think of the Statue of liberty, coated in Green copper oxide when dry and when it rains turns to Copper hydroxide again (just about the same atom but one is wet and when dry.) It may or may-not turn blueish/green when it absorbs CO2 from the air (Copper Carbonate). Basically TURQUOISE but missing a "P" and "AL". Google: 'Copper(II) Hydroxide' and click on the top WIKI article to see a photo.

  • @neongrey333
    @neongrey3334 ай бұрын

    it's SO PRETTY i love those purples that can get read as blue

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Same :) Blues are fairly common in chemistry (at least when transition metals are involved) but purples definitely are not. As a side note, I scrolled through all my footage I need to edit the other day to get an idea of what colors are most common. Yellows seemed by far the most common, followed by orange, green, and blue. Weirdly enough a color that is so common in nature, but seems to be quite uncommon in inorganic chem is pure red. I've only ever really seen pure red in mercury sulfide, cadmium selenide (both awful chemicals), and cobalt salts.

  • @experimental_chemistry

    @experimental_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Potassium bis periodato dihydroxo cuprate (III) is deep red, Chevreul's salt is brick red.

  • @zenongranatnik8370

    @zenongranatnik8370

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@integral_chemistry You also made chromic acid and nitroprusside

  • @felixfelicis_ll
    @felixfelicis_ll4 ай бұрын

    Definitely goes to my what_if list if I ever need to make a primary - it seems to be so stable to work with

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints4 ай бұрын

    What a wicked colour! Very nice indeed. Great video 👍👍

  • @jozefnovak7750
    @jozefnovak77504 ай бұрын

    Super! Thank you very much!

  • @ericwilner1403
    @ericwilner14034 ай бұрын

    Interesting! Long ago, I made a little bit of tetraamine copper chlorate, which was very colorful (and explosive) but did soon decompose to a frothy green slime. I also (back in the day) used ammonium persulfate to etch copper - a process that stopped working when the "activator capsules" (mercuric chloride) ceased to be part of the etchant product. Never thought there might be explosive implications.

  • @CassidyGentry-lq8qf
    @CassidyGentry-lq8qfАй бұрын

    So beautiful!! Love that color💙 What a fun and informative project!!

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs19814 ай бұрын

    I love that color great video thanks for sharing

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_4 ай бұрын

    It's so pretty!

  • @GuerrillaChemistry-ot3vs
    @GuerrillaChemistry-ot3vs4 ай бұрын

    You should have tried impact test , this compound deflagrates on impact .BTW you get nice color

  • @walterbunn280
    @walterbunn2804 ай бұрын

    The light blue molten bits look like hydrated copper hydroxide or copper carbonate. The classical name for this setup is Fehling's solution, and, in addition to differentiating unknown aldehydes from ketones, it produces copper hydroxide. I imagine that using fire instead of a carbohydrate probably results in some amount of the ammonia oxidizing into a nitrate compound, which is why it's very transparent, instead of the normal cloudiness. As far as 'explosive'. i think this would be much more explosive if you mixed it with a carbohydrate before igniting it. That said, you can use this compound to 'liquify' and 'mold' cellulose. Cuprammonium cellulose is something that has been covered on other youtube channels and it's fairly interesting. As a side thing, if you wanted to do your own 'cloth' that would be interesting, use chitosan suspended in acetic acid to reconstitute your cuprammonium silk..... anyway.

  • @Salt_and_Peroxide
    @Salt_and_Peroxide2 ай бұрын

    very well made video

  • @clannishkobra8965
    @clannishkobra89652 ай бұрын

    I've made copper thermite before it's reaction isn't as fast or energetic but still puts out a bang.

  • @GenosseRot
    @GenosseRot4 ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure the primary driver of this reaction is the oxidation of the amine ligand to water and nitrogen by the persulfate ion. The remains are mainly Copper(II) oxide and maybe cooper(II) or cooper(I) sulfide.

  • @user-on6ul5ke8b
    @user-on6ul5ke8b4 ай бұрын

    This video is really interesting, this is my first time knowing a persulfate-based primary explosive. I mess with tetrazoles most of the time.

  • @RadioTrefoil
    @RadioTrefoil4 ай бұрын

    From what I remember of my experiments with this stuff about 10 years ago, it produces a loud report when lightly confined in aluminium foil and heated externally. I also found it to be mostly stable for a few months before turning to a brown powder.

  • @johnmanderson2060
    @johnmanderson20604 ай бұрын

    The purple color is amazing 🤩

  • @TestUser-cf4wj
    @TestUser-cf4wj4 ай бұрын

    Im curious to know if this would make a decent green pigmemt for oil paints (assuming it does indeed decompose to a green color). It would be pretty cool to make a mildly explosive painting.

  • @TheZombieSaints

    @TheZombieSaints

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey that's a really interesting idea!

  • @mikaelbjornson2666
    @mikaelbjornson26664 ай бұрын

    Ballsy to ignite energetics on a glass surface :/. I would definitely advice against that. You always run the risk of picking microscopic glass shards from inside your skin at the ER for hours. Great vid though! Beautifully shot, perfectly demonstrated.

  • @B_Van_Glorious

    @B_Van_Glorious

    4 ай бұрын

    Chemistry needs more plastic cups! Thats my Explosions and Fire/Extractions and Ire impression.

  • @TheExplosiveGuy
    @TheExplosiveGuy4 ай бұрын

    Copper primaries are fascinating to me, it's pretty cool that an everyday normal metal like copper can form a number of explosive primary compounds. I made a small 5 gram batch of Copper Hexamine Perchlorate last year and am amazed at how stable and safe it is, I'm currently doing a small scale stability test of it over varying amounts of time, so far (one year to date) I have yet to see any difference in friction, shock or thermal ignition properties over time, using standardized testing methods, like dropping a weight onto a 200mg pile from an increasing height until detonation occurs, or setting another 200mg pile on a heated surface while slowly ramping the heat and recording what temp it deflagrates at. CHP is moderately powerful too, I've successfully detonated Ammonium Nitrate mixed with Aluminum powder with it. It does require strong confinement and an initiator compound like flash powder to get a proper full-order detonation.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Hmm I'll definitely have to give that a try, sounds like a very interesting compound. I've done copper perchlorate, but never incorporated hexamine (which I imagine makes it even scarier to work with, but I could be wrong)

  • @wesdblack
    @wesdblack4 ай бұрын

    Pretty!

  • @amandahugankiss4110
    @amandahugankiss41104 ай бұрын

    yet more reasons to adore my copper :)

  • @abelaitornisto4212
    @abelaitornisto42124 ай бұрын

    Good job amigo muy bueno

  • @andrewgregoryhansen1209
    @andrewgregoryhansen12093 ай бұрын

    I’d say tetraamine copper complexes are generally very strong primaries, even secondaries. Many are much stronger than TNT, but only when confined. That’s why they’re being explored as safer, less toxic alternatives.

  • @Drjtherrien
    @Drjtherrien4 ай бұрын

    That's the prettiest primary by far!

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    easily lol

  • @otilium7503
    @otilium75034 ай бұрын

    ❤Thank you ❤

  • @LegoTechnicsRule
    @LegoTechnicsRule4 ай бұрын

    Tom has some competition now!

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Who's Tom lol? (Serious question, I'm "new" to KZread insofar as I was really into it from 2008 to 2014 and kinda just abandoned it over the last decade bc I didn't like the direction things were going.)

  • @LegoTechnicsRule

    @LegoTechnicsRule

    4 ай бұрын

    @@integral_chemistry Yknow..? Tom from explosions and fire xD The Aussie guy who hates yellow chemistry and likes making tar

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    @@LegoTechnicsRule I didn't but I do now! Looks like he's got some cool vids. It's weird, my main two audiences aside from the US are Germany and Australia. Germany makes sense to me bc chemistry, but no idea why my content does so well down under

  • @cezarcatalin1406
    @cezarcatalin14064 ай бұрын

    The green residue is a weird partially dehydrated copper sulfate thing.

  • @AzideFox
    @AzideFox4 ай бұрын

    I made this compound many years ago and I got the same light colored biproduct when the complex decomposed, I proceeded to add a drop of ammonium hydroxide solution to the biproduct and it started to fizzle and turned back into that gorgeous deep blue color it had from the start, not sure what it actually turned into though since I can't remember testing it for any energetic properties.

  • @3er24t4g1
    @3er24t4g14 ай бұрын

    You should attempt h examine diperchlorate from perchloric acid and hexamine.

  • @Auroral_Anomaly
    @Auroral_Anomaly4 ай бұрын

    I was terrified and intrigued when I saw the thumbnail.

  • @2001pulsar
    @2001pulsar4 ай бұрын

    Nice camera to pick up the violet so deeply. Copper oxides can be green and are mostly incombustible.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Hm yeah it may be an oxide.. I'm only familiar with black, Red, and yellow copper oxides myself though.. would it be a mixed oxide? And thank you! It took just insanely bright lighting and low aperture to catch it

  • @TheZombieSaints

    @TheZombieSaints

    4 ай бұрын

    🤔 That pale greenie blue leftover stuff could be a copper compound of some sort. I used to spray a copper based insecticide avocado trees to keep the fruit flies off them. It was water soluble and exactly that colour. I too blasted it with a torch and all it did was sit there and get slightly charred on top. Just a suggestion 🤷‍♂️

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter4 ай бұрын

    beautiful. the green product also looks like malachite , might be the same material

  • @freigeist5161
    @freigeist51614 ай бұрын

    What a beatiful blue colour.Can you make a video about silver acetylide double salt?

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    I definitely plan to eventually! I had to move recently and in my current place I'm sadly limited in the pyrotechnic work I can do

  • @tullgutten
    @tullgutten4 ай бұрын

    Looks like it might still be slightly damp/wet, doesn't take much water to almost stop an reaction. For a primary that seems way to weak and unreactive if it really is dry

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    It was very slightly wet here, but I tried it again the next day after an extremely thorough desiccation and the reaction looked basically Identical so I didn't bother re-filming. I think its just an incredibly weak primary tbh.

  • @Pyrotechnicduck
    @Pyrotechnicduck4 ай бұрын

    It’s what they put in the grimace shake

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    I believe so

  • @experimental_chemistry
    @experimental_chemistry4 ай бұрын

    Nice. Incredible for me as an EU citizen that things like this are really legal in the place where you live... Would be interesting what happens if you heat the product the from underneath with a steel plate between the flame and the powder.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks! As always I find it incredible that they wouldn't be legal. I believe ammonium persulfate is sold as an etchant for circuit boards, and its also the main ingredient in hair bleach, although trying to extract it from the hair bleach was a nightmare.. But I do agree, I've got a lot left so I'll try heating it from underneath and see how it goes!

  • @Tunkkis

    @Tunkkis

    4 ай бұрын

    A lot of things are possible as long as you don't get caught, and not getting caught usually isn't terribly difficult.

  • @experimental_chemistry

    @experimental_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​​​​​​​​​​@@TunkkisThis risk of getting caught is comparably high here in Germany if you store such things. Though being only 80 million citizens we have about 100.000 house searches here every year for nearly no reasons like writing a few political incorrect words in the internet for example... (which means every fifth citizen is directly or indirectly affected by this at least once in his life!). In the end only 2 % of them are condemned for something. Not even the GDR had such a high rate of house searches. More and more we are living in a totalitarian surveillance state here...

  • @experimental_chemistry

    @experimental_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​​​​​​@@integral_chemistry Using persulfate as an etchant is still allowed here and maybe one of the few strong oxydizers that are not completely legally monitored. But preparing any kind of xplosive or pyrotechnical mixture of course is banned. The only gap in law is igniting gas air mixtures in small quanitities as long nothing is getting damaged and nobody is getting hurt or feeling disturbed by it. But mabe they will ban even this one day if the ATM blasts will continue... 🙄

  • @CloudaceMC
    @CloudaceMC4 ай бұрын

    a complex of copper oxide and ammonia

  • @sanchezic
    @sanchezic3 ай бұрын

    my tetraamine copper persulfate turned out to look like wool or fine needles in the cold and is very sensitive to friction and shock. unfortunately, it does not have ddt and is poorly stored. It is also interesting to obtain a glycine persulfate copper complex like glycine copper perchlorate.Thanks for the video.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    3 ай бұрын

    Huh fine needles eh? I guess mine did kinda look a bit like that before I broke it up and put it through the filter. I still haven't given it a test for shock sensitivity but glad to hear confirmation on that property

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust90934 ай бұрын

    You had me worried for I second. I have ammonia for copper patina and it has a similar brilliant blue color when you dip and/or fume copper with it. Just making sure I wasn't gonna ☠️ from ignorance. On the patina subject... could you replicate the "Midas brilliance gel" and results? I've been coloring with heat but somethings are mixed material and won't stand being torched.

  • @OrangeDrink
    @OrangeDrink4 ай бұрын

    My guess on the residue, element sulfur with some copper sulfate contamination.

  • @thebigtomato0597
    @thebigtomato05974 ай бұрын

    this copper stuff is dangerous damn

  • @detritic
    @detritic3 ай бұрын

    I want my entire house this color

  • @7seriesmax
    @7seriesmax4 ай бұрын

    I wonder how it would react in a cartridge. If your firearm shy, you could still use blank cartridges from a blank pistol. Simply empty out the powder charge and replace it with that pretty blue stuff.

  • @tireballastserviceofflorid7771
    @tireballastserviceofflorid77714 ай бұрын

    I got a book back in the early 90s. It was about making fireworks. One was the Chinese torpedo. It used a rock with a sprinkle of silver fulmite wrapped in a tissue paper. Always wanted to make a batch just to see how sensitive it was. Have had a silver dollar for the project ever since I got the book. Seemed a little scary.

  • @Chiavaccio
    @Chiavaccio4 ай бұрын

    👏👏👏👍💯

  • @snoowbrigade
    @snoowbrigade4 ай бұрын

    The green drops you get after combustion look a lot like how sulfur looks when it beads up while burning

  • @Ignis_1
    @Ignis_14 ай бұрын

    Can you do a video on the synthesis of copper perchlorate without perchloric acid?

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    3 ай бұрын

    Hmm I'll definitely look into it, but certainly seems possible

  • @Kris-fd9xs
    @Kris-fd9xs4 ай бұрын

    Tetramine copper (II) chlorate though hygroscopic seems to react more favorably.. Perhaps this was not fully dry?

  • @Angrychemist666
    @Angrychemist666Ай бұрын

    Make it anhydrous!!! For best results!

  • @j0hnny_R3db34rd
    @j0hnny_R3db34rd4 ай бұрын

    The molten green globules observed when burning tetraamine copper persulfate are likely composed of one or more copper(II)-containing compounds such as copper hydroxide or copper carbonate, formed due to partial reduction or oxidation of other species during combustion. Additional gas phase and liquid byproducts like water vapor, nitrogen, sulfur dioxide, etc., may also be produced depending on the specific conditions of the reaction.

  • @andrewsmart2949
    @andrewsmart29494 ай бұрын

    is the green stuff/residue a copper nitrate?

  • @ChimeraChemLab
    @ChimeraChemLab4 ай бұрын

    Can you make TeAMC chlorate?

  • @MrBoho7
    @MrBoho74 ай бұрын

    Someone please archive this

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
    @chemistryofquestionablequa62524 ай бұрын

    I tried to respond to you on the video on iron from supplements but KZread keeps erasing my comments. The perchlorate version of this complex is great and the laboratory of Liptakov channel has great information on it.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    I wonder why.. I did try going into my account settings to "allow all comments" as its set to remove "inappropriate" comments by default.. I'll try and give it another look. That does sound interesting though! I'll have to check it out. Perchlorate has been on my radar for a while, however I don't think any of my electrodes could handle it..

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    4 ай бұрын

    @@integral_chemistry you need either lead dioxide (best) or platinum coated electrodes for perchlorate. I have a platinum coated one, but it’s really finicky to use properly. You’ll probably like the laboratory of Liptakov channel, he’s on sciencemadness too guy is a genius. I doubt the issue is with your channel settings, KZread seems to almost randomly delete or hide my comments when they refer to chemistry of energetics or politics.

  • @user-on6ul5ke8b

    @user-on6ul5ke8b

    4 ай бұрын

    I love TACP, too! It's a nice primary!

  • @ShortFuseMan

    @ShortFuseMan

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@integral_chemistry You can obtain ammonium perchlorate from pyrochemsource for the reaction needed to produce TACP and CHP. They are one of the few vendors that don’t require any further verification to purchase AP‥ I highly recommend them… Doing business with Tim has always been a pleasure‥ I use AP mostly for the production of pyrotechnic strobe rocket propellants, but obviously I set aside some for more explosive endeavors and energetic chemistry adventures as well.

  • @ShortFuseMan

    @ShortFuseMan

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@integral_chemistry You can retrieve ammonium perchlorate from pyrochemsource for the reaction needed to produce TACP and CHP. They are one of the few vendors that don’t require any further verification to purchase AP‥ I highly recommend them… Doing business with Tim has always been a pleasure‥ I use AP mostly for the production of pyrotechnic strobe rocket propellants, but obviously I set aside some for more explosive endeavors and energetic chemistry adventures as well.

  • @ajhubbell3754
    @ajhubbell375416 күн бұрын

    I love copper….as a metal. This is the first of heard of it in an explosive compound. Almost seems a shame to blow up copper.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    15 күн бұрын

    Tbh I agree, on both counts. Copper is honestly the gift that keeps on giving. Basically nontoxic, not amphoteric (usually), participates in nearly all the most iconic transition metal reactions, probably the most colorful overall reactions, and can form 3 different explosives just off the top of the head. Also dissolves cellulose and forms glowing pyridine complexes

  • @colin351
    @colin3514 ай бұрын

    Try it with perchlorate instead of persulfate imho

  • @jakehall7350
    @jakehall73504 ай бұрын

    Video idea : Thyme -> Thymol -> Phenol -> DNP

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner66334 ай бұрын

    Might be copper 2 sulfite contaminated with some free sulfur. Copper sulfide and oxide are black Cu1 oxide and sulfide are reddish. One test you can do is try to disolve the residue in water and then in an acid.

  • @officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408
    @officermeowmeowfuzzyface44084 ай бұрын

    Residue is copper nitride?

  • @nunyabisnass1141
    @nunyabisnass11414 ай бұрын

    Could be green copper oxide contaminated with sulphide.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe.. Although it does seem very homogenous

  • @alch3myau
    @alch3myau4 ай бұрын

    But what is the green leftover!

  • @Caberbalschnit
    @Caberbalschnit4 ай бұрын

    Normally when I have this weak of a primary, I re-crys. Typically helps anyway. Never tried with this'un though.

  • @atlanciaza
    @atlanciaza4 ай бұрын

    Isn't this the stuff they light rockets with?

  • @TheL0k3
    @TheL0k34 ай бұрын

    the green stuff is fire proof? you couldn't decompose it?

  • @CatboyChemicalSociety
    @CatboyChemicalSociety4 ай бұрын

    TACP but thats actually a scary primary especially when doped with something like hexamine or ammonium citrate

  • @kebabchlorate

    @kebabchlorate

    4 ай бұрын

    Really didn’t know about the ammonium citrate but I made some a while ago so maybe I’ll test it

  • @CatboyChemicalSociety

    @CatboyChemicalSociety

    4 ай бұрын

    @@kebabchlorate you only need to add like 5% by weight to sensetize it. and you need to add it before you precipitate the TACP basically add it to the ammonium perchlorate solution

  • @kebabchlorate

    @kebabchlorate

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CatboyChemicalSociety oh okay I’ll test that but first NaClO4->NH4ClO4

  • @manganeseheptoxide7825
    @manganeseheptoxide78254 ай бұрын

    I have made Cu tetramine permanganate a few years back. You might wanna try that too, it is slightly more energetic in my opinion. There is a terrible video of it decmposing with a faint pop on my channel.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Hmm I'll give it a look. Love the username btw

  • @manganeseheptoxide7825

    @manganeseheptoxide7825

    4 ай бұрын

    @@integral_chemistry Thanks, I acutally mistook what video I was referring to. The one with the pop is actually persulfate, mine appears to be a bit more energetic than yours. The permagnganate is way slower, but there is a video of that as well.

  • @venomousbook
    @venomousbook4 ай бұрын

    can anyone tell chemical force about this?

  • @cambridgemart2075
    @cambridgemart2075Ай бұрын

    Interesting that both chemicals are used in printed circuit board manufacturing!

  • @Pootycat8359

    @Pootycat8359

    12 күн бұрын

    Heh, heh, in the 1970s, that's the excuse I gave to the clerk at "Van Waters and Rogers," to get him to sell me HNO3! "Etching PC boards." 😀

  • @p1ai162
    @p1ai1624 ай бұрын

    The green should be oxides and hydro oxides

  • @Unmannedair
    @Unmannedair4 ай бұрын

    Kind of looks like copper oxide and copper oxide is pretty stable.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos72014 ай бұрын

    I do hope BATFE appreciates its aesthetic qualities too.

  • @ShortFuseMan

    @ShortFuseMan

    4 ай бұрын

    According to ATF Agent Steve Forman, the energetic copper complexes are completely legal for civilian production and storage.

  • @dewaynewarnock2309
    @dewaynewarnock23094 ай бұрын

    Can it be used as a dye

  • @ElPsyCongroo.

    @ElPsyCongroo.

    3 ай бұрын

    I'd go for TACN, it's way more stable.

  • @fanman420
    @fanman4204 ай бұрын

    Now tetra amime copper II perchlorate

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    ooh that is a good bit more energetic.. might wait until my neighbors go on vacation

  • @emilmckellar4932
    @emilmckellar49323 күн бұрын

    sihg!

  • @opieshomeshop
    @opieshomeshop4 ай бұрын

    *_Can you do this video in English? Thanks._*

  • @fedai1196
    @fedai11964 ай бұрын

    Had to correct you Tetraamine copper persulfate isn't useful or effective as primary explosive, but, more likely it is low explosive. It has low initiating capability . Tetraamine copper or nickel complexes aren't that super effective or efficient as primary. There are better fuel ligands for this transition metal complexes. Tetraamines attract water molecule, so they are sometimes unreliable, they might work but it requires some conditions to perform better. Even tetraamine copper perchlorate isn't reliable as primary, needs strong confinement and sometimes additional fuel like Al, Mg powder must be added to boost its properties. However you can also try adding some Al or Mg powder to Tetraamine copper Persulfate to somewhat amplify its initiating capability, but it might also make it more sensitive. But i believe simple Mg/S based chlorate flash powder got more or about the same brisance and initiating capability as this complex.

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Hmm I guess that makes sense. I'm not exactly an expert in explosives, so I'm not exactly clear on the formal definition of a primary. My working definition I had put together in my mind was that anything that could be initiated by shock or very easily by spark/flame was a primary, but I will say you're correct in that compared with other actual primaries I've worked with this one was incredibly weak. I'm used to associating a sharp pop or snap with a primary being ignited, but as you saw none of that here.

  • @fedai1196

    @fedai1196

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@integral_chemistry Yeah it is okay people make mistakes, i myself did a lot of dumb things and got lucky most of the time. The thing is, some energetic compounds require spesific conditions to release their maximum performance. For example ETN is between primary and secondary, yet i can make det caps and detonate it without any another primary(via thermal heatshock) or just use it as secondary or sometimes even mix with other compounds to form much better performing mixture(NHN+ETN). Anyways, you still made a pretty compound tested it and posted it for people to see, that's very informative and helpful for some people.

  • @self_taught_stuff
    @self_taught_stuff4 ай бұрын

    next TACP? 😉

  • @Tunkkis

    @Tunkkis

    4 ай бұрын

    Then perhaps CHP?

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Organic peroxides might be a bit too much 😅 I do plan to do TACP and I've got a vid coming up on potassium tetraperoxochromate which was pretty neat

  • @kebabchlorate

    @kebabchlorate

    4 ай бұрын

    @@integral_chemistryTACP stands for Tetraamine copper perchlorate

  • @ShortFuseMan

    @ShortFuseMan

    4 ай бұрын

    ​Tetraammime copper(II) perchlorate ❲TACP❳ is not an organic peroxide, Triacetone triperoxide ❲TATP❳ is not related. The compound TACP is an energetic copper coordination complex like the one you made in the video,@@integral_chemistry.

  • @dvdzonedzone
    @dvdzonedzone4 ай бұрын

    Did not even crack the glass

  • @ZoonCrypticon
    @ZoonCrypticon4 ай бұрын

    Perhaps the green stuff is copper-(I)-nitride ?

  • @experimental_chemistry

    @experimental_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    Doesn't really form under oxidative conditions. I think it just must be some basic copper sulfate.

  • @dvdzonedzone
    @dvdzonedzone4 ай бұрын

    It’s weak and not explosive it’s just some type of rocket fuel

  • @simplydarkhalf3974
    @simplydarkhalf39744 ай бұрын

    The Alphabet Bois might know

  • @quinton3997
    @quinton39974 ай бұрын

    I can't even say all those words 😂

  • @kkendall99
    @kkendall994 ай бұрын

    Copper oxide

  • @barfbot
    @barfbot4 ай бұрын

    admitting you got nerd sniped by the idea might be a bad idea lol

  • @integral_chemistry

    @integral_chemistry

    4 ай бұрын

    LMAO I'll get nerd sniped by transition metal complexes 100% of the time (especially copper)

  • @searsbear7965
    @searsbear79654 ай бұрын

    Is green shit not sulphur oxides? I was gonna say nickel sulphate of nickel chloride because of electroplating but there’s no way haha

  • @alch3myau
    @alch3myau4 ай бұрын

    should have melted it in a test tube first.

  • @brycenrodrigo
    @brycenrodrigoАй бұрын

    legal to make felony to test lol