I guess Switch port is out of the question

@parsastrife6629

4 жыл бұрын

Did you really give that a thought even?

@Ultra-Niche-Gaming

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@waynechriss

4 жыл бұрын

Lol it was never even a question.

@micha299685

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe in 144p

@terencecaron2922

4 жыл бұрын

Guess we're not finished with port begging of the most demanding games at 540p on switch. Next up, Cyberpunk

16:36 ... during these moments the game is pretty hard to... CONTROL. 🌛

@ThePerbin

4 жыл бұрын

Puts on glasses ........................... YEAHHHHHHH!

This screams to me a game that was designed with next gen in mind. Like, I expect when you plug this into PS5 it will automatically run at a higher resolution, with raytracing, better performance, and fast load times.

@fwabble

3 жыл бұрын

Putting this to the test on my Series X today. Gutted to see it's set at 30FPS on One X ? ;0; Will still try it though. Doubt I'll play it much unless they patch to 60FPS. It's nearly 2021.... I have a Series X and it's not to play at 30FPS...

@mahoobarc1439

3 жыл бұрын

@@fwabble 30FPS LOL This is why I will never buy a console.

@AndyGilleand

3 жыл бұрын

@@fwabble you can switch to performance mode for 60fps but you lose resolution

@phoenixvr1988

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyGilleand such a gorgeous game. I'm stuck on one s😭

@fwabble

3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyGilleand WTH.... I looked for any options but cannot see ANY ? Just looked again I cannot see ANYTHING ANYWHERE!!! I have Brightness, Motion Blur and Film Grain. And 'Reset to Defaults' absolutely nothing else.

Typical example of what happens when upgraded hardware models are released. Developers target the higher spec and only nominally make the game run on the base model. It's like the "Minimum Specs" for PC games.

They didn't even show the off the full extent of the slow down on base PS4. Almost every battle when particle effects go absolutely insane the game turns into a slide show. It was bad enough that in the atrium level the game actually froze while facing 3 bad guys for about 8 seconds, and when it resumed the bad guys were completely gone. My theory is that when it overloaded it despawned the bad guys just so that the game could resume. And slowdowns are common, even through the early game. Any attack that throws massive amounts of particles *cough*grenadedudes*cough* turns the game into a powerpoint presentation. The oddest part is even though my console is pretty old and usually I can tell when a game is processor intensive when the machine itself chugs and makes lots of noise it's damn near silent for this game. Just makes me think something fucky is going on.

@jsun7972

4 жыл бұрын

Damn, I want to play this game so bad but I know I don't want to deal with what you described. That sounds unplayable.

@DaScorpionSting

4 жыл бұрын

J Sun Gonna wait until it goes on sale and updates to fix problems.

@Canadian_duck31

4 жыл бұрын

Does it happen frequently on PS4 or is only once in awhile?

@ThatNotSoAznKid

4 жыл бұрын

@@Canadian_duck31 Regularly. The freeze and despawn has only happened to me that one time, but performance is just poor across the board. However, my tolerance for bad frame rates must be pretty high since I was able to play through the entire game relatively unscathed. The combat favors strategy and positioning over intense twitch aiming, so if you treat it like a turn based strategy game you should be just fine. I'm glad my comment has been helpful to some people, looking back I can hardly make sense of my own writing.

@joeyl853

4 жыл бұрын

Yea your full of shit. How dare you say anything negative about PlayStation? If your not talking about PlayStation in a positive light then it's just proof that your full of shit.

I don't believe Remedy didn't encounter this frames drop on their test!

@shazmanbound1496

3 жыл бұрын

Is call rushing a product in the name of greed. Reason as to why I wont be joining next generation of consoles. Sick and tired of massive patches, DLC, microtransactions and half ass produced games.

@amink23

3 жыл бұрын

@@shazmanbound1496 thats why you should just get a pc I had no clue this game had issues until I saw this console reviews

@TheT0nedude

3 жыл бұрын

You're naive if you think they did a test.

@stephonhines3013

3 жыл бұрын

Sound like cyber punk lol

I've seen countless reviews on YT and hardly any of the reviewers touched on how bad the performance actually is in this game. Hats off to DF. What would we do without you guys.

@BenoitAdam2

2 жыл бұрын

Remove Cinematic Blur and voilà

This is why I love this channel. I like how they break down stuff like this in games!

My god this is bad. I think this generation established that if you choose to target 30fps over 60fps it at least should be rock solid. I can forgive one or two dropped frames here and there. But drops this low make it unplayable

@PSspecialist

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 calm down edgelord

@Alovon

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's a CPU Problem and most computers in the past few years do meet the minimum for it, however the CPUs in the Consoles are fairly weaker than most others, I daresay that the Tegra in the Switch's CPU is similar if a tiny bit better at computing stuff than the Jaguar CPU in the PS4 and Xbox One S

@Taijifufu

4 жыл бұрын

Alovon but isn't the CPU largely the same in the pro and X while the GPU's got a boost?

@Alovon

4 жыл бұрын

@@Taijifufu yeah, but the CPU in the Pro-Consoles have a Overclock, also the stronger GPU does help increase Frame Rate Overall

@DouglasBailey

4 жыл бұрын

@@Alovon In the video they said they believe its a GPU memory problem not CPU given how long the frame rates hold in base systems even when action is not heavy anymore. One X i would bet its CPU related given how fast it bounces back to 30.

What a world we live in where a game has to drop to 10 fps before it's considered "borderline unplayable". Any drops below 30 should not be tolerated and Microsoft and Sony should not have allowed this to release. What the hell are console certification processes for if they let ridiculous performance problems like this through?

@MetelAdict

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I was looking forward to this when I caught wind of it. I love the whole meme horror genre, after seeing this, even with a ps4 pro, I'm apprehensive.

@xBINARYGODx

4 жыл бұрын

"What the hell are console certification processes for..." Only to confirm that the game runs at all and doesn't do something really bad... but really, to make more money on top of the licensing.

@math3capanema

4 жыл бұрын

I would consider less than. 24 fps unplayable

@Largentina.

4 жыл бұрын

@@MetelAdict What the hell is the "meme horror genre"?

How did they think this is okay to release in this state??? Surely they had to play it on all platforms before release. Did they not even test it on base consoles?

@UltimateAlgorithm

4 жыл бұрын

Most likely they don't have a choice. Either downgrade, which probably ruin their artistic designs. Other option is they delay the release until next gen, which is bad because that's mean no income.

@randylahey2398

4 жыл бұрын

@@UltimateAlgorithm In this case - fuck their artistic design. People are paying their hard earned money to play this, it should be playable above all.

@MilesWilliams88

4 жыл бұрын

I'm playing through it right now on ps4. The framerate is so damn bad. I didn't pay for it thankfully. I'm using a PS Now free trial.

@yopepoy

3 жыл бұрын

@Da Sz That is very inconvenient. Besides, he didn't pay any dime to play it on PSNow.

Took your time with this one, been waiting, thanks for the upload!

lol holy shit the base console performances are completely unacceptable

@thevillageyid

4 жыл бұрын

You're right.

@CaptainMorganThe3rd

4 жыл бұрын

mellow magic It’s also one of the only games willing to do things that will straight up melt processors. Considering how old the base hardware is, I don’t really find it all that surprising.

@SurrenderLemon

4 жыл бұрын

What do you expect for hardware that's nearly six years old?

@ariskoin9612

4 жыл бұрын

even the pro versions are pretty poor

@joeyl853

4 жыл бұрын

@@SurrenderLemon really. Who the fuck is still gaming on the PS4 and Xbox s. Those consoles were a joke spec wise when they launched.

I'm playing on my OG Xbox One (2013) and the game really has a weird behavior. Thank you guys for pointing that video freezing bug at 21:33. When it happened to me, I was shocked that they released the game with that kind of issue. In-game performance issues are (unfortunately) common when a game launches, but things like me map / and pause screen stutters are bizarre. I hope Remedy address this ASAP. I'm such a fan of their work and it's sad that it was launched at that state. BTW, great job, guys! DF never disappoints!

This looks like one of those games that's really gonna come into its own when it's remastered for the next gen platforms - on PS5 and XB2 it's likely to get the raytracing tech from the PC version, and they should be able to swing non-reconstructed 4K at 30 fps, or even 1440p at 60 fps.

@MLWJ1993

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt it would run at that resolution with those frame rates with raytracing in the same way rtx does right now. Maybe, just maybe at 720p60 1080p30... At least, taking into consideration the total package costs about $500,- Your expectations might however come through at like $1000,- +

@Taijifufu

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah those goals are probably a bit lofty considering we don't even know what AMD has in the works in the way of ray tracing and how well high end PC's perform right now.

I really enjoy your videos . thanks guys

I thought the "director" projection was a really nice effect :)

No wonder most of the game footage before release was on PC. Rip

@SupeRobot82

4 жыл бұрын

The performance is horrible on PC too. Thats why they ran the game only at 1080p even though they were using the most powerful graphics card in the market.

@AdiiS

4 жыл бұрын

@@SupeRobot82 no, the game runs perfectly fine at 1440p at high settings on gtx 1080, no issues what so ever, it's even possible to play at 60fps if you drop some of the setting to medium, at 1080p tho all maxed out at 70-80 no problem.

@real_Zuramaru

4 жыл бұрын

@@SupeRobot82 i mean im running the game maxed out with a 2080 ti at 1440p and i average 80 fps. its not that terrible

@vgamepuppy1

4 жыл бұрын

nepnep well yeah when you pay for a used car to play video games I’d hope it could pull 70 FPS at 1440p.

@Alovon

4 жыл бұрын

@@SupeRobot82 I think that your CPU may be old, as it should run fine on most GPUs at 1080p. The main Bottlenecker in this game seems to be CPU ussage

Thanks for sharing! I'll wait a while to see if they can fix these issues before picking it up for my pro.

21:40 I experienced a similar FMV freeze on the PS4 Pro, when playing it back from the pause menu. I also had an instance where the video stopped and I could Jesse standing in the room I had paused in, and the audio from the video was still playing. I hit the triangle button and it brought up the playback controls, and the video came back and played out normally like nothing had happened.

Remedy is working on fixes for the consoles. Should have a patch by "Mid or late September". Should have been fixed before release but hopefully it'll improve performance.

16:35 The game was hard to ... Control

@asdfjklo124

4 жыл бұрын

It won't be the last intentional or unintentional pun with this game, that's for sure!

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

The puns will be out of Control...literally.

@Taijifufu

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot to put on your sunglasses. 😎

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

@@Taijifufu "GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!"

Thanks for joining me Ri- ALEX!

After seeing the destruction in this game I was thinking how "ironic" it would be if WB contracted Remedy to make a Matrix game haha Technically it would be the closest to getting a new Remedy Max Payne game we would get haha

@MaxIronsThird

4 жыл бұрын

This is an amazing idea

I love this game but the performance is the worst i’ve ever seen on my ps4

@Kitty_Sullivan

4 жыл бұрын

jesuisunomelette is it really that bad? Now I’m worried to buy it

@user-cn4nb5cy3c

4 жыл бұрын

It really is. I love the gameplay but it isn’t worth my money in this current state. I wish I never bought it tbh...

@petereldredge2329

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kitty_Sullivan just watch the review I mean that is some of the worst performance I've seen on a current gen console (that isn't switch)

@Kitty_Sullivan

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Eldredge that’s a damn shame. Maybe they’ll patch it soon. I’m excited for this game. It reminds me of how Beyond two souls played and I loooved that game!

@SuperPhunThyme9

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kitty_Sullivan get it on pc and you can turn it down to potato if u want.

whoaaaaa ps4 dropping 11fps

@Clay3613

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but look at Xbox...paused frames!

@MarcBR1

4 жыл бұрын

10 fps

@tobias4411

4 жыл бұрын

Horrific.

@smokeinc9800

4 жыл бұрын

current console cant handle this game even my 1060gtx 6gb will choke

@franc5016

4 жыл бұрын

@@smokeinc9800 mine doesn't, 1650 4gb

when you got to base ps4 i could barely watch the video, can't even imagine playing it. its a damn shame cause the game looks great and the total lack of marketing makes me think its gonna flop, but there's no way in hell im buying this at full price when it runs so bad.

I really like the grainy look of Quantum Break and Control. I didn't have much problem on the X.

Honestly I would be livid if I bought this for console and experienced this kind of performance. That is atrocious!

@johnaldridge83

4 жыл бұрын

It's not amazing on PC either.

@Rebelscum264

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Most of the time I agree with y'all's assessment but falling into the low teens disqualifies a game from being called "good" on a platform IMO. This is an avoid on base PS4/Xbox One.

@christopherbohling5719

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 That...doesn't really invalidate what I'm saying. Outdated or not, the DF guys described the performance on console as "good" and it's not good, and especially not on the base systems. PS4Pro and Xbox One X are ... playable at best.

@elrox9189

4 жыл бұрын

Christopher Bohling it doesn’t even run that well on the Pro

@Tvv1SteR

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 PS4 Pro isn't much better. Its hw specs are also outdated for games like this one (with lot of effects, particles, environment destruction). Even on XOX fps drops a little below 30 when there's a lot of in-game action. This is a game that should be played on next-gen consoles (when they come out).

@theanimerapper6351

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tvv1SteR it's not the specs. Even on PC this game has relatively bad performance. Even a 2080ti can't lock it at 60fps

Hi DF guys, would you guys ever consider doing a video on options devs could be implementing to future proof games (via backwards compatibility on next gen)? Things like having options for adaptive resolution and unlocking framerates etc.

I'm having more issue with texture pop-in, but I have it installed on an external. I might try to reinstall it on the internal and see if that's any better.

@WORKOBEYFILMS

4 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing and it didn't help :( it's the game itself.

Looking forward to when the PC analysis comes :D Especially the DLSS portion versus running at a lower resolution

@BrotherO4

4 жыл бұрын

DLSS is bad, Nvidia just copy AMD sharpening feature which is proven to less demanding than DLSS and looks better. you can check out hardware unboxed look into this for both amd/nvidia.

@Ty4ons

4 жыл бұрын

@@BrotherO4 Yup, that's why I look forward to seeing how it looks. So far I've only seen examples of DLSS in this game at 4k and I haven't seen it compared to a lower resolution.

@Taijifufu

4 жыл бұрын

BrotherO4 pff I saw that. It never went into detail about anything that DLSS does besides jaggies. Check out the DF video about Anthem for a more comprehensive breakdown of DLSS.

@BrotherO4

4 жыл бұрын

@@Taijifufu the test is how good it looks to the viewer. which DLSS lost in vs both amd/nvidia new style. since everyone will have those two things. i say use the better option.

27:26 "Thanks for joining me R-Alex!"

@janAkaliKilo

4 жыл бұрын

"Intrusive R" google that, it is a pretty interesting linguistic phenomen.

@certaindegree8998

3 жыл бұрын

@@janAkaliKilo thanks for that !!

This is one of THE most impressive games on current-gen, and it can really only be appreciated in action. The destructibility is amazing. The effects work is incredible. Some frame rate hiccups on PS4 didn't hinder my enjoyment. It's one of the few games that gave me that "Half-Life 2" feeling - a feeling of connectedness to the game world. A new level of interaction, driven by physics systems. And it's just deliciously weird.

Was cool playing something with such heavy Finnish influences. I know Sam Lake is Finnish but the last 3 games weren't borrowing from the Kalevala. Finnish Objects of Power are where Tolkien got the idea for the ruling ring in Lord of the Rings and the Silmarils in The Silmarillion. The Black Arrow of Bard the Bowman, the Phial of Galadriel, Orcrist, Glamdring, Sting, the staffs of the Wizards. etc.

I’m playing on One X, and frame-rate is flatlining as soon as there’s a lot of action on screen. Anything more than three enemies at a time, and it’s stuttering constantly. Additionally, literally every time I load ally save, or use a control point for any purpose, there’s significant stutter upon re-entering the game.

Nice Work Remedy, congrats! Nice Slider show!

Hey DG, I don't know if I am mistaken or you guys are but on the 15:55 mark this game footage says Xbox one X but when you see the buttons you need to push on the screen it shows PS4 button, the triangle one, so I don't know what's going on there.

I've installed this game on my SSD - Xbox One X Version... I'm ok with that, it's a good port (confirmed here), but, still, the "menu slowdown" happens even there - however, the bug vanish quicker. Good video, DF. Thanks.

Wait... John, you can't show what you show and then conclude that the game is "solid enough on consoles" or "it's good on consoles". It's unplayable on two of the four and has issues on the other two. Careful with your phrasing there, friend.

@renatoramos8834

4 жыл бұрын

What four consoles are you talking about?

@KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt

4 жыл бұрын

@@renatoramos8834 xbox one x, xbox one s, ps4 pro and ps4.

@renatoramos8834

4 жыл бұрын

@@KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt ps4 pro and xbox one x aren't consoles, they're hardware revisions of ps4 and xbox one.

@KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt

4 жыл бұрын

@@renatoramos8834 lol I know that. you asked which four consoles they were talking about. That's your answer. I guess everyone calls the Pro and One X consoles but you.

@renatoramos8834

4 жыл бұрын

@@KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt It was a rethorical question. I knew the idiot was refering to those hardware revisions as consoles.

16:38 "the game is hard to control" lol

Will you do another comparison video after mid-september patch will be released?

will there be a video of the performance with the new patch? would really like to know how much it improves before buying the game

On ps4 ( base ) I drop it to about 10 frames sometimes. It hit me hard when I did the random pop up missions and it took me to a small room with alot of destruction. when the action picked up with about 5 different enemy types I could bare even move ..... but I still love this game haha

@mechiellouw3315

4 жыл бұрын

I think it comes down to the weak CPU's across all 4 consoles. The enhanced consoles have higher clocks, but these CPU's were unimpressive at launch, almost 6 years back. Games with heavy use of physics will always run poor on these systems. Even Goat Simulator becomes a slideshow when the heavy use of physics really stress the cpu.

@LucDutra92

4 жыл бұрын

As someone mentioned, it's the CPU the culprit here. Notice how the slow downs happens when there's a lot of stuff flying around and getting blown up. It can't handle the physics of this game. The next gen will launch with much more powerful CPUs compared to this gen at launch. Hopefully this kind of situation won't be a problem. At least not until the very end of the generation.

@RaouTV

4 жыл бұрын

The real problem is the rushed unstable game not the consoles cause let's face it people pay money to play their games on console at playable 30fps and since they can't be upgraded the game companies who charge consoles 10$ more than PC should keep in mind to meet that standard or gtfo. Look at Rockstar they released RDR 2 across all platforms at a stable 30fps with the best visuals on any open world game but unlike Remedy they didn't rush their product

I don’t know why, but I can always tell if John is going to be hosting the video based on the title haha. Regardless, I love all the stuff on DF! Keep it up guys!

@anthonyparks5208

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea why my game sometimes has a pop up message about something about video something 🤔 and then freez's, and then stops my game. Please help me. I'm playing control on Xbox One s.

@anthonyparks5208

2 жыл бұрын

Again please help me with the issue asap.

Games now a days... when i was a kid i remember my 4 yr old mind being blown when my father showed me some of his atari games. I grew up in snes/n64 era, but thats one of the 1st memories i have. In just 20 yrs weve gone from sprites/super rough polygons that are either unshaded and flat, or just colored/hardly textured to this. And every yr the bar gets set higher and higher.

I’m playing on base PS4 and man is it rough in the really combat-heavy areas. Hopefully they can patch it to improve performance because there’s no reason this shouldn’t be at least a solid 30fps on all consoles.

Remember the days when games had slightly different versions to accommodate performance on different consoles? Splinter Cell Chaos Theory for example.

@xBINARYGODx

4 жыл бұрын

Except SC performed horribly when not on Xbox, specifically all of the PS versions had trash frames even with the other changes.

So we finally get the destruction effects back that where already seen back in ps2 era with Black, Nice! I actually liked that feature a lot.

@OscarLopezCe

4 жыл бұрын

Get back? They have been there in the Battlefield franchise since last gen.

@AlexBSPLUS

4 жыл бұрын

Remember Red Faction 1 and 2?

@MLWJ1993

4 жыл бұрын

@@OscarLopezCe Hardly... On the surface it might look like it, but they fell just a little short. Especially concerning walls and such. It's okay though, devs have developed more towards eye candy when it comes to details instead of destruction & physics. Hopefully the next gen can put something out with a cpu that can perform in that department.

were these tests done with the stock HDD or upgraded systems?

There's been a new patch addressing the performance and other issues. Will you please make a follow up video?

@charizardoreo

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently on base consoles it isn't much better

JUST LEAKED: "The game will have two sequels named Alt and Delete!"

@CragScrambler

4 жыл бұрын

2003 called, they want their puns back.

@AllanZax

4 жыл бұрын

@@CragScrambler Ba dum tssss...

@TheMentalgen

4 жыл бұрын

And a spin-off: Loss

@deivuuk

4 жыл бұрын

Best comment!

@futuregenerations2599

4 жыл бұрын

In THIS CASE ""CONTROL ALT DELETE"" 😂😂😂😂

I love literally everything about this game, but its performance on my base PS4 is atrocious. There were so many frame rate drops and pop-ins, it's mind boggling. This is completely unacceptable for a single player game in 2019.

I was waiting for this

I might be out there but one thing I think about is that the Flash Light from Alan Wake was an Oop(Object of power) I mean when the light focused it would weaken the dark aura around the people and machines.

I'm playing on Xbox One S and I noticed the slow down and frame rate dipping when there's a lot of particle effects or a lot of action on screen and it is unplayable when the frame rate drops so low I'm stuck on the first boss because the framerate just crashes. I just hope they can get this right on console and if they can't give us a refund for the game.

Good God, I'm glad I didn't get this for my PS4. I'm running it on an i5 4460 & RX 480 4GB and it's working pretty darn well at mostly high settings at 1080P. It does drop below 60 at times, but luckily I have a Freesync monitor which really comes in handy & makes me not notice the dips as much. Though, I will say, when there's big explosions and all, I do notice. And it also really heats up my graphics card, hitting the high 80s Celsius.

@chase7974

4 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised it runs on an ancient i5.

@joesterling4299

4 жыл бұрын

@@chase7974 Why? Intel have been refreshing the same 2015 Skylake architecture for over 3 generations. OK, so the 4460 is Haswell; but it just isn't that much more ancient than the current architecture.

@chase7974

4 жыл бұрын

@@joesterling4299 I had an i5-4460 in my old PC. It would struggle in newer game's. You really need at least a 6 core CPU to have a good experience. I upgraded to a Ryzen around 2018. For 1080p 60fps it's a beast.

@robertc6506

4 жыл бұрын

Chase Whittemore I found the 4460 suitable for my needs back then when I bought it, and it still handles what I use it for graciously. I know it’s not much, but I’m still pleasantly surprised how fast my system still is - relative to what I use it for, of course. I might upgrade when 8c/16t with good IPC can be bought at a better price, and even though I’ve been recently thinking of upgrading just now, it’s not financially wise to do so when what I have now hasn’t caused me any issue in years. I think it’s terrific that a €200 CPU from 2014 is still really not as awful as I’d have thought. Seriously, it’s been a damn good 5 years with it. I know it’s odd to be proud of an inanimate object, but I really like this CPU and I still trust it, even if it’s starting to show its age.

Tearing at the top of the screen on the X1 could likely be because they're using that technique of not using v-sync and instead use various techniques to push the tear out of view. This method usually suffers when the framerate dives far below the target.

3:49 lol look how type-writer's keys pops into existence at such a short distance..

Yup. Definitely time for next gen

Interested in getting this game for my PS4 Pro but I will wait for possible future patches.

@airtec87

4 жыл бұрын

Aye.

@Ytnzy250

4 жыл бұрын

Research how cheap & useful an external Samsung SSD is. All next gen consoles will have them as standard. Bought a 500G one just for problem games like Days Gone, difference is like night & day.

@ThePerbin

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ytnzy250 How does it affect loading times ? I have just started playing Days Gone. Loading times are generally not that high (compared to Metro Exodus which takes ages to load). Is it noticeable difference ?

@Ytnzy250

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePerbin Maybe 5 or 6 seconds but over time they add up. Easy to install as it just slots into the USB socket, i'm pleased with mine.

7700k and 1080ti here. Getting about 80-100 fps, all maxed out. No RTX obviously, resolution set to 1440p with render resolution set to 1080p. If I also set render resolution to 1440p it hangs mostly around 60, but does dip into 50s territory often too. For me, the visual trade off isn't worth the loss in fps, as it doesn't actually look that noticeably less sharp when using the 1080p render with the screen resolution still set to 1440p. So yeah, given the visual fidelity im overall pretty happy with it.

Great video DF. Control is looking awesome and I am looking forward too Playing it but I only have a PS4 Slim tho :-(.

@rookiemonster1704

4 жыл бұрын

Just Pretend you are playing a sequel of Max Payne in Bullet time the entire game...

@johnodaz1273

4 жыл бұрын

@@rookiemonster1704 hehe true ;-) 👍.

You cant be selling a game like that come on

@-pressxtostart-

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 are you just taking a guess or what, i dont have, nor want control and my hardware has nothing to do with what i said. Relax, dont wet your knickers

@kostasbousbouras2654

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 The problem is in your brain. Consoles are able to run RDR2 in stable 30fps, not like this shit from Remedy.

@yashyashino3135

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 Even if the hardware couldnt handle it they shouldnt have the right to release it lol.

@mohamedmahadi3607

4 жыл бұрын

Press X to Start the atlas fella is a pc elitist, he pops up in every console related comment. For some reason he can’t respect people’s choice of platform.

@wild6102

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 the problem are the devs. There are plenty of games on ps4 that can prove this. When devs are monkeys the hardware are nothing to do.

If you love Control, you absolutely need to try Prey (2017)!

@Anub1sMenph1s

4 жыл бұрын

Quantum Break runs better than Control .

@WildEagle3000

4 жыл бұрын

@Android Mango agree on sooo many levels! Environmental storytelling is absolutely excellent!

As games become more and more GPU heavy due the end of the generation, do you think it'd be interesting to do a FPS test in some recent games using the OG Xbox One vs the Xbox One S ? It apears that some games can have a considerable diference, like KH3. I'd like to see the difference in games like Battlefield V, the new F1, RDR2. (The last one for exemple, It apears to have more FPS on the One S version than the standard PS4 on some areas, while the OG One strugles.) Thanks!

I'm not sure but i think i might have a glitch where the button promt doesn't show and i get stuck

No mention of the slow loading textures especially on posters and signs? This was an issue with quantum break as well. Exiting the pause menu creating fps issues is so weird. I hope they patch these stuff

@theindiediary5950

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly this seems to be an issue with most console games this past year. They're really pushing them old cpu's to the limit.

@JoeyKray

4 жыл бұрын

@The Indie Diary happens on pc too, entering menus causes slight pauses and lag. Running on an nvme ssd, 3900x, 2080ti with 32gb ram.

@d4t6ix

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeyKray Just as Atlas 51232 said, i also don't have that issue at all and i'm running the game from a 7200rpm HDD on a 980ti + an i5 from generations ago; Surprisingly, the loading times are also really good;

@ShadowRomeo1784

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeyKray Does happen to me too on pausing. But not with loading textures and loading screen though. It's pretty quick actually and that is with a 7200 RPM HDD. I'm pretty sure with a SSD it's even gonna be more faster.

@DEVILTAZ35

4 жыл бұрын

The pause is just a rendering issue and no big deal having to wait a few seconds for it to come right. There is nothing difficult about the combat in this game unfortunately as before too long you are just too overpowered anyway. It's a good game but it's no Alan Wake overall. That just had much better atmosphere and for the time much just looked better visually. I've only see the low res texture loading once or twice in hours of play on Xbox one X and it was only a picture on a wall and a sign that did it. I am more concerned at the lack of quality of the main character model when it comes to hair for instance. We had much better hair with tress FX back on original Tombraider reboot than this.

I literally beat Quantum Break a few minutes ago.. I had always wanted to play it, bought it about 6 months ago, picked it back up a few days ago and played the last 1/4 through completion.. I actually liked that game.. People seemed to hate the live-action videos spread throughout, but I enjoyed it, like taking a movie break between playing the game, but still following the same story.

@MaxIronsThird

4 жыл бұрын

I'm with you brother, QB is a severely underrated game, the gameplay is really good, if of course you're not playing it as a cover base shooter, which the game isn't. The story is also pretty great, the TV show is leaps and bounds above what i was expecting.

With RTX, on my 2070 Super, it tanks HARD in the FPS departement. Staying on SSR is honestly not a bad choice since the reflections system is soooo good (and you get 60+fps).

@DEVILTAZ35

4 жыл бұрын

It was a waste of money buying current RTX cards. Would have been far better to wait for the new consoles to be released and then buy that PC ray tracing card that comes along after that. You just overpaid for less than impressive hardware even with a 2080ti which can't keep 4k 60 maxed out in this game even after spending all that money on one.

ok. important question: were there any serious updates since then to rectify this in any way? I watch this in 2020-08-20, and I *finally* strongly consider to buy this game..

Just a reminder how bad these Jaguar CPU cores are, my old ass 2500K is still pushing 47-65FPS on this.

Having a great time with this on the X, didn't even think about using melee on the glass office walls, doh!

As for the map discussion in the vid. Yea I have yet to get use to the idea that AAA games hold your hands to destinations. Even though games like Skyrim show it in the bottom of the screen, I still pull up the map and check my location to the objectives.

Can’t wait for the PC analysis. Love games that push boundaries like this!

@3dgelord187

4 жыл бұрын

Dude... Infamous Second Son had very similar particle effects and that gane was open world and a launch window title!

Super happy that I'm playing this game on PC. Amazing game and on my pc setup it runs flawlessly.

X1X looks unbelievable

@2Guys1ControllerShow

4 жыл бұрын

It truly does. I was very impressed by the resolution and the stability on the the X.

Is there an ini file I can edit, and what should be changed for better performance?

Which version was tested? 1.02 has "performance improvements". I'd love to know whether this patch was taken into account.

I'll wait for a patch to get this game.

Been playing this since it came out yesterday here in the uk, and in my original PS4 i have areas towards the end of the game . (no spoilers) that literally clogs up the system that it frezzes and few moments later mid battle maybe 2-7 seconds before the frame rate goes up to a playable rate. Its definitely in the low 10-5 FPS throughout all battles towards the end. As a great game this was that had to be the worst performance out of all the hundreds of games ive played since the ps4 launched. Its terrible especailly when you die ALL the time due to this and your sent way back in the game which becomes so frustrating over and over and over again, Im really glad this has been highlighted by DF because this is basically ALPHA in its fit and finish performance wise but boy what a beautiful visuals.

@coffee7180

4 жыл бұрын

It has to be one of them but not the worst don't forget the worst is still lichdom battlemage. XD

@IndieChilloutMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to poor optimisation on console. Sucks it’s like this. For once this game on pc runs perfectly . . . without RTX that is. Turning RTX tanks performance by about -15fps. Ubisoft games like Wildlands, WD2 and AC Odyssey is horribly optimised on pc granted it’s not as bad as 10fps. Current gen console hardware are showing its age I think as well. Time for next gen to come out. Edit: If you think visuals looks good on console, you haven’t seen RTX on pc 😁

@TheColemancreek

4 жыл бұрын

It does not run on PC well at all either. With a GTX 980 ti and R5 1600 3.9 I can get 60 fps a lot of the time with medium settings. The problem with the game engine is that when dips happen that drop the rate below like 50 fps the engine cuts the game to 30. The problem is with volumetric fog in the game when it is interacting with light. There is no setting to turn off the fog and it is the culprit. Also you can't turn off motion blur in game either although that setting doesn't mess with the frame rate much.

@oropher1234

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheColemancreek That is not the engine, that means your at double buffered 50hz vsync or something similar. I run max 2xmssaa allways above 40 fps at 1080 Ti 1440p native. The game just is ahead of it's time visually. Let's please just face that instead of shouting things down because "i give 500 euro's to vidcard 5 years ago, now its not run 60 fpzrz anymore" is just stupid.

@TheColemancreek

4 жыл бұрын

@@oropher1234 It's the game engine. I have a 75 hz monitor OCed to 80... used Nvidia Inspector to manually set the frame rate to 60 and it still drops to 30 when going under 50 fps.. if I run without Vsync there is terrible screen tearing. Lots of people with 2080 ti's aren't able to get a stable 60 fps at 4k without RTS features... No need to be a smart ass about what card I have..you sound like you live in mom's basement.

name of the music playing around min 17?

I was debating getting this for my PS4 instead of PC because mine is a bit on the lower end of system requirements. I thought this could be a case of better console optimization. ...Oh, wow! I think I'll just choose a lower render res and be frugal with other effects. I also installed this on ssd. I plan on playing later tonight and will see how my i5-7400/1060 3gb w/8gb ram will do. 🤞

Waiting for this to go on sale. I love Remedy but this along with them giving PS4 some extra mission(s) kinda turns me off.

@DaScorpionSting

4 жыл бұрын

tCruzin4Lyfe I think they are time exclusives although they didn’t say when it would come to other platforms. I do agree it’s stupid they did that.

Yet another masterpiece from one of the greatest developers in existence. Loving this game and super excited to see the possibilities it brings for Alan Wake and/or Quantum Break sequels.

@Kiseki_Fan2k24

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Wake is confirmed to be set in the same universe as Control. There's a document you can find in game confirming it

@voided_reality6863

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kiseki_Fan2k24 that's pretty dope.

We finally have photo mode!. Incredible pics. This game looks stunning and the gameplay encourages experimentation . It’s very fun and intense. Best remedy game yet. The level of destruction has no match this generation. I loved it.

John, do you know if Remedy ever fixed the issues you covered in Quantum Break's post XB1X patch? I reinstalled it recently, but to my eyes it seemed to have the same problems.

@ubisoftcaveira8303

4 жыл бұрын

1440p

I wonder why Sonytal Fraudy doesn't put enphasis on Resolution anymore? Didn't they zoomed in 1000% on Quantum Break to find the base resolution? Now that Remedy is making multiplats all of a sudden they love Remedy. Lol

You mention I/O possibly being a point for bottleneck, but failed to mention the assest streaming issues. Look at the textures of the painting and posters on the walls, they are VERY slow to load in high res (playing on one x btw, tested on both external and internal storage)

@lolslo7h

4 жыл бұрын

also like you mentioned with unpausing the game, i've found that the map sometimes takes a very long time to load/causes stutters. there can also be long hitches when accessing the multimedia collectables, the fmv ones of the 'darling presentations'. So i wonder if there is an I/O bottleneck or maybe cpu/bandwidth constraints trying to decompress all this data. I was surprised the game is only 40gb

@MostlyPennyCat

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those paintings are bugged to fuck. I've seen them take 10 seconds to pop in. No other issues so far, and I think I've got it installed on my external SSD

I understand and agree, that instead of trying to push for a native 4K resolution it makes more sense to use the processing power on other things, but man this game... the film grain, temporal reconstruction, TAA with the ghosting it produces, the lower than usual resolution, the motion blur and the serious framerate issues that make the reconstruction and TAA less effective, they just make this game way too blurry

Could be interesting to get tests on consoles with the HDD switched to SSDs, for Control, but also other games.

Xbox One X running this at 1440p is INSANELY impressive. Even my GTX 1070 PC struggles at 1080p

@kostasbousbouras2654

4 жыл бұрын

I am going to buy this game for my X but I wish it would be lower resolution with a more stable framerate. Although it seems to have the least problems with framerate, it still struggles and has some nasty framedrops.

@16valveBravoSpoonz

4 жыл бұрын

and ? but when its aiming at 30fps its hardly "insanely impressive"

@postscriptum8142

4 жыл бұрын

30fps is not impressive! Stop the peasantry.

@BlackParade01

4 жыл бұрын

@Atlas 51232 that's struggling. For example, on my GTX 1070 PC, Far Cry 5 reaches 90-120 fps at max settings, The Witcher 3 reaches 80-90fps with max settings and HD Reworked mod and Shadow of the Tomb Raider hovers around 80fps. 50-55fps is struggling. The GTX 1070 used to be a 1440p card, now it isn't even a 1080p 60fps card anymore.

@rookiemonster1704

4 жыл бұрын

@Ioannis Stf 1440p with small drop is still better than 1080p with even more small drops on the Pro. 👍

Thank god I'm playing this on a beefy PC, base console performance in particular is atrocious. Commiserations for anyone trying to play it like that.

I played this on the One X, and the only area where the slowdowns were a real issue for me was in the Ordinary AWE. When all those little buildings start getting destroyed, it can get pretty bad

This video is brilliant, but what about the droid attack on the wookies?

Modern shooter without pointers, yellow dots etc. Excellent,Definitely buying on first price drop,hope they will fix this...

It looks good on my xbox one x, I was standoffish at first but I took a chance on it, and I was completely happy with how it looks and plays.

look at that cinematic gameplay right there

@mrshmuga9

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can find more frames per second during those ballers on a flip book than the game, lol.

John and Alex are so chilled together, really enjoy their videos!