Conservatism vs Liberalism

Conservatism and Liberalism are the main Social theories within Political Philosophy. Whilst Conservatism favours social tradition Liberalism favours social change and individual liberty.
Watch as George and John debate each theory and look at their strengths and weaknesses.
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  • @PhilosophyVibe
    @PhilosophyVibe4 жыл бұрын

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  • @newhope5729

    @newhope5729

    2 жыл бұрын

    OMG, These cartoons talk with more maturity than any of the humans, the way they told problems of each other and put forward the good points of each other, plus the whole hearted acceptance of the problems, Awesome man, 👏👏 This is what I call a great discussion,a discussion of intellectuals, 🥰

  • @audiobooksproject4829

    @audiobooksproject4829

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should read Pat Buchanan's book The Death of the West to know what real conservatism is. I recorded an audiobook version of it, available on my channel.

  • @newhope5729

    @newhope5729

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@audiobooksproject4829 Would you please give me some sort of trailer of it, 😊 Or maybe some insight, if I'll find it interesting then I'll definitely listen to it, 😊 BTW you look like a conservative..... But where were you people when your traditions and customs were being shredded by the liberals? 🤔 Isn't it your responsibility to protect them? 🤔☹️

  • @audiobooksproject4829

    @audiobooksproject4829

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @newhope5729

    @newhope5729

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @newhope5729
    @newhope57292 жыл бұрын

    OMG, These cartoons talk with more maturity than any of the humans, the way they told problems of each other and put forward the good points of each other, plus the whole hearted acceptance of the problems, Awesome man, 👏👏 This is what I call a great discussion,a discussion of intellectuals, 🥰

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed.

  • @newhope5729

    @newhope5729

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilosophyVibe Thank you to you dear.... Who made a so awesome video explaining the positives and negatives of each other, 😊 God bless you and may your channel grow like a Chartbuster lol

  • @noel7777noel

    @noel7777noel

    2 ай бұрын

    "Over dramatic" is technically lying. lib·er·al adjective Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

  • @headslayer_7077
    @headslayer_7077 Жыл бұрын

    I ♥ Conservatism

  • @CyberPotato123

    @CyberPotato123

    2 ай бұрын

    i dont like conservatism and liberalism, i dont believe in any religion and dont think nationalism is good but i also dont like liberalism, its ruining society, im in the middle, are you left or right if we are talking about economy?

  • @zer0chill644

    @zer0chill644

    2 ай бұрын

    Trump 2024!

  • @Almilka

    @Almilka

    Ай бұрын

    eww

  • @zer0chill644

    @zer0chill644

    Ай бұрын

    @@Almilka eeww liberals

  • @rhowell0317
    @rhowell0317 Жыл бұрын

    This is a perfect example of the way in which WE ALL need to consider sharing our personal beliefs with others who have different worldviews! In reality, the majority of us tend to overreact and become defensive and/or offended.

  • @hongtamnguyen7294

    @hongtamnguyen7294

    4 ай бұрын

    well what if I think that overreaction is the result of liberalism 😂

  • @EshDerp1425_Monke

    @EshDerp1425_Monke

    23 күн бұрын

    @@hongtamnguyen7294then you’d be wrong

  • @EshDerp1425_Monke

    @EshDerp1425_Monke

    23 күн бұрын

    @@hongtamnguyen7294 nvm there’s no right or wrong here. I Believe both sides cause overreactions

  • @chrisgross5925
    @chrisgross5925 Жыл бұрын

    If we could all learn to talk and listen to each other this way

  • @PineappleElephant68

    @PineappleElephant68

    9 ай бұрын

    instead you get some crazy woman with blue hair screaming that men are able to give birth 😂

  • @Ivan19271

    @Ivan19271

    4 ай бұрын

    @@PineappleElephant68 Instead you get some crazy man with beer belly screaming that women have too much rights 🤣🤣🤣

  • @vojtasks
    @vojtasks4 жыл бұрын

    Sadly, this is now a complete and utter opposite even as von Mises noted in his Liberalism; the Liberal term has now the opposite meaning of the one it had in the past which was classical liberalism stemmed on un intervened individual freedom free from any external especially authoritarian pressures. Now, liberal is that one who is willing to use the power of the government to pursue a liberal goal. Since then, conservatism as it seems to me moved slowly but moved. It is now the conservatives who favor freedom from government power freedom in economic lives and freedom from social enforced change.

  • @maxabramson4781

    @maxabramson4781

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, and conservative, civil rights Republicans are still the same, but the socialists and communists who use the Democrat brand name to get elected don't really care.

  • @akiraasmr3002

    @akiraasmr3002

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maxabramson4781 I wish Dems were socialists than we would stop complaining about them pandering to the right bunch of sissies. I want radical change not the "democrats" that are running now.

  • @vojtasks

    @vojtasks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Damian Tirado what anti speech and what anti lgbt rights they are against?

  • @vojtasks

    @vojtasks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Damian Tirado aha, blueAnon. I see. You have not read those laws, have you? Florida specified riots and protest and defined it and forbid protestors to block cars. So you could not be blocked in a car by trump supporters who threaten you. And you say police state while you support Covid lockdowns where cops literally attack churches for having services. Standard BlueAnon stuff. And it is anti trans to forbid biological males to compete against biological females? So you don't want any female to ever win anything coz she will be run over by a biological male? Trans people can sport. Just stick to their category or make one their own don't destroy female sports.

  • @audiobooksproject4829

    @audiobooksproject4829

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should read Pat Buchanan's book The Death of the West to know what real conservatism is. I recorded an audiobook version of it, available on my channel.

  • @4ChristStanding
    @4ChristStanding3 жыл бұрын

    Just saw this video, and I love that you look at both sides. I lean conservative, but also try to understand and respect other people’s opinions.

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, glad you enjoyed.

  • @audiobooksproject4829

    @audiobooksproject4829

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should read Pat Buchanan's book The Death of the West to know what real conservatism is. I recorded an audiobook version of it, available on my channel.

  • @gobimurugesan2411

    @gobimurugesan2411

    2 жыл бұрын

    So ur a liberal

  • @tazd7749

    @tazd7749

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gobimurugesan2411 how does that mean he is liberal?

  • @jasongooden917

    @jasongooden917

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gobimurugesan2411 depends on what he sets on fire

  • @metatron4890
    @metatron48905 жыл бұрын

    The issue i have here is that liberalism sounds like being libertarianism.

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Really good point and I know where you're coming from. I think in recent years a distinction has been made between Liberalism and Libertarianism as Liberalism has changed in certain ways. This video is referring to Liberalism in the classic sense, so Classical Liberalism as it is now being described as.

  • @metatron4890

    @metatron4890

    5 жыл бұрын

    +Philosophy Vibe yes, I figured as much but in the later video the blue shirt guy argues for socialism...

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes it can't be taken too literal, we're just trying to get the arguments on both sides, so we decided for the liberal to argue for socialism and the conservative to argue for capitalism. The characters haven't really got a solid personality, if you watch all videos there might be inconsistencies in their arguments across a variety of videos.

  • @maxabramson4781

    @maxabramson4781

    3 жыл бұрын

    Basically, socialists and communists have been hiding their agenda behind words like liberalism and progressivism and running for office "as Democrats." They keep denying that they have anything to do with the old Jacksonian Democrats who were for slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, racial profiling, racist gun control laws, segregation of public schools, etc. They now insist that they've completely changed. If they really have a different agenda, why don't they just use the Socialist Party brand name?

  • @kookadams85

    @kookadams85

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maxabramson4781 exactly.

  • @akankshasharma7719
    @akankshasharma771911 күн бұрын

    This was pretty informative. I loved how both of them put their points in a civilized manner and even accepted the criticism. I used to always get confused with these terms. Thank you for clarifying it.❤

  • @sergeantsapient
    @sergeantsapientАй бұрын

    This is a pretty good summary of the differences between the two.

  • @timothymcmanimon8700
    @timothymcmanimon87003 жыл бұрын

    Its fun to be liberal, but its important to be conservative.

  • @frankocean99

    @frankocean99

    3 жыл бұрын

    it’s fun to be conservative, but important to be liberal.

  • @SnipSnip477

    @SnipSnip477

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frankocean99 its fun to be a troll but its important to find a life

  • @frankocean99

    @frankocean99

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SnipSnip477 It really is fun to be a troll:D Ya know getting to make friends! Good ones too. Poppy, Bridget, Branch. There all really great people. But it’s quite scary running away and getting hunted down by Bergen’s every now and then.

  • @frankocean99

    @frankocean99

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SnipSnip477 Yes, I know it’s important to find a life. But any moment some Bergen’s can come and hunt me down and take my friends! That’s my biggest fear.

  • @htoosaw9012

    @htoosaw9012

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@frankocean99 so you support LGBTQ?

  • @ellafrancisco8675
    @ellafrancisco86757 ай бұрын

    the last bit hit the nail on the head!!!!!

  • @kennylaughon6215
    @kennylaughon62153 жыл бұрын

    I think you have taken advantage of our impressionable youth!

  • @didactichub478
    @didactichub4782 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much it really helped me alot in understanding both terms

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pleasure, glad we can help.

  • @michaelvozniak3200
    @michaelvozniak32002 жыл бұрын

    “When forced into a binary, you always choose wrong.” -Jelani Wilson

  • @MisterRa

    @MisterRa

    2 жыл бұрын

    We don't force people into anything... It's called science and biology XD

  • @xalaxium

    @xalaxium

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MisterRathis is the most braindead comment ive ever read

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060
    @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 Жыл бұрын

    According to this video I'm liberal in the sense that I stress the importance of being an individual that makes their own choices, but that doesn't describe how the democratic party operates at all in the US. It's all about group identity. You are bullied and/or canceled if you disagree with the group's ideals. I hated it when I heard Biden say that you're not black if you vote Republican despite the long history of racism in the democratic party.

  • @nomo9344

    @nomo9344

    Жыл бұрын

    Liberals actually believe in societal or collective "responsibility", and are in favor of increased govt. control of your everyday life, whereas the conservative believes in individual responsibility and less govt. control. The liberal may have their desire to be "individualistic," however, and as you stated, if your "individual" views and beliefs are contrary to the collective (eg. the mainstream media dominated left), you stand a good chance of being ridiculed, cancelled, etc. Who gets cancelled at a higher rate?

  • @tylerreynolds9013

    @tylerreynolds9013

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nomo9344 so why are conservatives pro life

  • @nomo9344

    @nomo9344

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylerreynolds9013 because they're conservative and right

  • @tylerreynolds9013

    @tylerreynolds9013

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nomo9344 sry, I should probably elaborate. pro life means banning abortion, which is a form of govt control. so wouldn't pro life be a liberal stance?

  • @tylerreynolds9013

    @tylerreynolds9013

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nomo9344 sry, I should probably elaborate. pro life means banning abortion, which is a form of govt control. so wouldn't pro life be a liberal stance?

  • @computer-training-for-seniors
    @computer-training-for-seniors Жыл бұрын

    There are many people around here where I live in regional Queensland who don't like or want things to change. But they cannot stop change from happening, any more than they can stop the sun from setting.

  • @chazs4272
    @chazs42724 жыл бұрын

    I farted in my car and now it smells like weed in here. Strange.

  • @bereketaklilu8247

    @bereketaklilu8247

    3 жыл бұрын

    you high my guy

  • @anthonyfletcher8053

    @anthonyfletcher8053

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you should question your weed supplier..

  • @BabySonicGT

    @BabySonicGT

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok nice I guess

  • @imconst9088
    @imconst90883 жыл бұрын

    thanks I needed this for school

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @Biggboy29
    @Biggboy29 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the breakdown I needed it lol

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @JonGreen91
    @JonGreen917 ай бұрын

    I just watched a video of liberalism versus libertarianism, and he describe libertarianism as you describe liberalism. He also might say that it’s not conservatism versus liberalism, but liberalism versus neoliberalism.

  • @aleksmoran.
    @aleksmoran.3 ай бұрын

    Always wondered what these both terms meant glad to learn something new but I still don’t care for either

  • @brandon8bpferris253
    @brandon8bpferris253 Жыл бұрын

    Give us an updated version of this👀👀🤣

  • @cardinalwilson8034
    @cardinalwilson80343 жыл бұрын

    about 1:48 please refer to 0:24

  • @jasonl9266
    @jasonl92662 ай бұрын

    A little of both makes a whole lot of sense

  • @cyberedge881
    @cyberedge8812 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Although, I would argue that your liberal character sounds more like a libertarian/classical liberal and not like a modern leftist/socialist/progressive. I myself am a moderate with strong libertarian leanings. I would never describe myself as either progressive or conservative, given that neither change nor tradition are unqualified goods.

  • @nomo9344

    @nomo9344

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely agree with your assertion that the liberal character seems more libertarian/classic liberal than the modern day leftist. A HUGE difference between the two.

  • @bloodmoonrising871

    @bloodmoonrising871

    11 ай бұрын

    libertarians are basically conservatives who allow drug use.

  • @brianking7350
    @brianking73506 ай бұрын

    This is great. Thanks

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    6 ай бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @lordrayleigh8316
    @lordrayleigh83163 жыл бұрын

    great content!

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @michaelgolub5890

    @michaelgolub5890

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilosophyVibe which one are you conservative or liberal?

  • @azfarsadat6201
    @azfarsadat62013 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr51793 ай бұрын

    Yes we are finally starting to take an interest in our Universe.

  • @wandaarcher5126
    @wandaarcher5126Ай бұрын

    Too much too far is too much that when you must draw the one red line you don’t cross!!!!!!

  • @sensualserenity
    @sensualserenity3 жыл бұрын

    @0:38 the change of tonality LOL homie was creeped out after that "I see" @2:23 my new favorite activity anywho, i do disagree though in regards to liberalism having the potential to separate us as a collective society. Sure, we may be different in certain aspects (because of that freedom to choose and thus freedom to walk our own path i.e be OURSELVES), but fundamentally we are one. On a more spiritual and also biological sense. The human populace is the populace we can most relate to. Also, there is bound to be shared common beliefs among groups of people. Is it bad to be divided into groups? No, because if everyone were alike, that would be rather boring and bizarre. Everyone is, thankfully, different in different regards. In regards to culture, for many it is not important. Connecting on a deeper sense may be more important to that population, and that's fine. Whereas the "cultured" individuals (aka conservatism) feel culture is what brings them together, while the liberalists have different values of what it means to be connected and maintain that connection by different, equally valid means :)

  • @theycall21
    @theycall21 Жыл бұрын

    The core of my beliefs have not changed. 20yrs ago, I was a liberal in the USA. Today I am a conservative with the same beliefs.

  • @newemail-ij2ft

    @newemail-ij2ft

    8 ай бұрын

    Amazing

  • @potatogaming7044

    @potatogaming7044

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah. That’s how stuff works

  • @BencLin
    @BencLin3 жыл бұрын

    This definition of liberalism is not what the US has.

  • @robinsss

    @robinsss

    3 жыл бұрын

    no America is slightly to the right of the spectrum center-right Canada is center -left they legalized marijuana years ago and gay marriage through the legislature

  • @airbus_a320neo

    @airbus_a320neo

    3 жыл бұрын

    The form of liberalism in this video is _classical_ liberalism, the US have _modern_ liberalism

  • @robinsss

    @robinsss

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@airbus_a320neo but since classical liberalism is another name for libertarianism you have classical liberalism in libertarianism and modern liberalism

  • @airbus_a320neo

    @airbus_a320neo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robinsss bruh no. Classical liberalism and libertarianism are different. Google it

  • @robinsss

    @robinsss

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@airbus_a320neo i have googled it i don't see the difference what is it?

  • @LMFPlaya
    @LMFPlaya10 ай бұрын

    I believe that national tradition/culture/beliefs can help bring people together but I also believe people should have their own individuality if they want. So am I conservative, liberal, both, or neither? Is there an in-between I can choose lol.

  • @kijangberburu5991

    @kijangberburu5991

    9 ай бұрын

    Centrism

  • @dragoncat5767

    @dragoncat5767

    3 ай бұрын

    But still we should be open to many ideas and beliefs against from what has been through in past as there are many things which are actually ok, was considered not ok in past.

  • @sega62s
    @sega62s10 ай бұрын

    any changes in society should be done slowly and analyzed ….why rush into something that most people are not ready , and you have to change everything around and it’s costly, usually changes are made by goverment and they see if it’s going to be good for their pockets

  • @hiroipip
    @hiroipip Жыл бұрын

    the thing is that liberalism is the tradition of usa, the founding fathers are basically liberal which making me a liberal but also a conservative lol

  • @godlike1361

    @godlike1361

    Жыл бұрын

    You're a moderate. One that takes stances in both.

  • @raptorfromthe6ix833

    @raptorfromthe6ix833

    Жыл бұрын

    Founding fathers were more libertarian than liberal or conservative

  • @beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175
    @beyondenigma-esotericsecre91753 жыл бұрын

    Some fallacies made here. Individuals will always share common beliefs.

  • @cardinalwilson8034
    @cardinalwilson80343 жыл бұрын

    Humans didm't just evolve in one day, evolution is a process. People made mistakes and we must learn from it but there is no reason to repeat the whole course just because you failed in one subject.

  • @wonkygustav4457
    @wonkygustav44573 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny conservatives have a sense of being one but only within their own culture where as liberals feel a sense of being one when we all connect with each other not limiting ourselves to our group

  • @wonkygustav4457

    @wonkygustav4457

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joshua Elwood because they’re so short sighted lol

  • @wonkygustav4457

    @wonkygustav4457

    3 жыл бұрын

    Braden Mcgill shame you don’t act accepting of others when you just go round condemning them, calling them sinners very loving not!

  • @wonkygustav4457

    @wonkygustav4457

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joshua Elwood there is a lot of political extremism at the moment.

  • @wonkygustav4457

    @wonkygustav4457

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joshua Elwood what has that got to do with wether conservatism is short sighted? I stand by that belief, it’s hardly moving forward conserving the past is it!

  • @wonkygustav4457

    @wonkygustav4457

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joshua Elwood conservatism is all about maintaining the status quo, I have little interest in your past, I wish to move forward from it not keep reliving it. I accept that we aren’t all completely one or the other but the concept of conservatism as I stated is not what I support.

  • @RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW
    @RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW2 ай бұрын

    One builds a nation and the other destroys it. Guess which is which.

  • @MrThejboe3oh5
    @MrThejboe3oh5 Жыл бұрын

    Liberalism and conservatism in regards to "politicians"oddly enough changes from region to region,even within a country and its states as any one can have a foundation or core of an idea/belief,but it changes from person to person as ones opinions,education, comprehensive understanding,perspective,situations and beliefs dont always perfectly align with these core values.Example:In the United States Conservatives and Liberals are not the same as in England nor France.Many English Conservatives would sound like an American liberal at times and oddly enough their relationships tend to be better between the opposing sides (in the west) than those who they align with or are assumed to see eye to eye.In the States, a Texas conservative and a New York conservative are so different and the Citizens have a serious lack of being able to identify the differences..majority just pick s side without even being fully aware or knowledgeable of who they are choosing to represent them.The most important choice of a citizen (especially of the United States) is to remain in the Center, because whether you like it or not as an American you tend to be a bit conservative and as well a bit Liberal by default. If you don't remain at the center or moderate,you actually do lose your value and now work for the politicians because you are sided,rather than refusing to be moved without action and representation ,they now have to work for you/your vote,it creates leverage.Situations do change and sometimes the current state of any nation calls for different ideas to be put into actions,as too much of anything is never good.Even in my reply,I'm pretty sure someone's opinion will be different,but if they choose to be moderate they can stand in the middle by using their basic awareness and communication skills to see both perspectives leading to negotiation and solved problems.

  • @tvlovergurl9462
    @tvlovergurl9462 Жыл бұрын

    theres liberalism vs conservatism and then theres radicalized liberalism vs radicalized conservatism which is what creates the divide between both parties

  • @Towobby
    @Towobby Жыл бұрын

    I am a conservative but I do agree with some motives of liberalism, I respect everyone who claim to be "mid-left, mid-right and far-right". However I do not agree most things a far-left person says. (I would like to exclude economical ideologies such as communism from this argument because I do believe that a Nationalist half communist government could work, anyway) I believe that a countries tradition should be kept and all immigrants that arrive to the country s should try to adapt the culture of the Nation. I do believe in the theory of replacement without the most extreme belief. (Coming from an Immigrant, i believe that conservation values are very important and that individual freedom should not mean the freedom to "wear skirts or make up as a man" or "be gay") I believe in my religious and tradition values and I do my best to adapt to the tradition of the country I immigrated to, so that they can keep their conservative tradition values and not be replaced by my 3rd party beliefs.

  • @Bossmark123
    @Bossmark1239 ай бұрын

    I am proud conservative

  • @jrdn1x
    @jrdn1x Жыл бұрын

    What if you like both sides

  • @treypitts9803
    @treypitts9803 Жыл бұрын

    Yea this a good video. This just confirms that I am a conservative

  • @LotsaTippingPoints
    @LotsaTippingPoints27 күн бұрын

    I agree with the commenter who stated that this post seems to have confused liberalism with libertarianism. Furthermore, I do not agree that conservatism is a philosophy, thinking that it is more like a mental illness, delusion, or form of denial. Conservatism is also an exercise in futility. Keepers of the status quo; proponents of some non-existent bygone era; all are lost in a self-induced pipe dream. The only aspect of reality that can be relied on is change. As Lenin said, sometimes not much happens for decades, then a decade can happen in a year. That happens mostly because folks are fearful of change and some will attempt to move heaven and earth to thwart and deny it, and then the levee breaks and change floods over us. 2024 or 2025 is shaping up to be that kind of flood. Learn to embrace it and swim with the flow, there is no real alternative besides denial.

  • @PeriwinkleB
    @PeriwinkleBАй бұрын

    This video is beautiful

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @_tata2002
    @_tata2002 Жыл бұрын

    “I see” scared me 😂

  • @colinchock
    @colinchock Жыл бұрын

    it starts by accurately implying that political philosophy can be divided into liberalism and conservatism. after that it strikes out in every way. what it describes as liberalism is actually libertarianism (if you define libertarianism as I do, that is "conservatism with an emphasis on individual liberty"). what it describes as the political philosophy of conservatism is actually a description of people who are psychologically conservative, i.e. have a conservative personality. (for example, people who dress conservatively.) the video doesn't say what the true aspects of liberalism and conservatism as political philosophies are. the primary characteristics of conservatism as a political philosophy are: -freedom -judeo-christian principles -e pluribus unum -and "do your duty." the primary characteristics of liberalism are: -equity (AKA equality of outcome) -secular humanism -diversity (AKA multiculturalism) -and "follow your heart." I would say that the secondary values of the philosophy of conservatism are capitalism and Constitutional representative democracy. and the secondary values of liberalism are socialism and Athenian democracy. again, the mistakes this video makes is first to conflate political philosophy with personality. and second, to mistake libertarianism for liberalism.

  • @MsIvargas
    @MsIvargas5 ай бұрын

    Strong traditional hard working men are you here with me?

  • @alphagamma4582

    @alphagamma4582

    5 ай бұрын

    Depends on what you mean by traditional. If you're referring to when whites approved and exercise slavery of Africans and indigenous? Then, no. If you mean when non white men and women could not vote? Then no. If you mean when women were not to be educated and limited only to the home? Then no. If you mean believing in a flat earth and burning people at the stake because they defied the church beliefs? Then no.

  • @Rp-pi5df
    @Rp-pi5df Жыл бұрын

    I wish conservatism was as described in the US. Liberal here.

  • @gregharoutunian4836
    @gregharoutunian48362 жыл бұрын

    Plain and simple. Conserve life

  • @StephenLewisful
    @StephenLewisful Жыл бұрын

    Politic-ing has to be done, there is no way to avoid it. Language and the undefinable terms we use are the source of the difficulties we face as humans. We can find solid definitions of the terms Liberal and Conservative but if you ask an individual, they will each have a unique interpretation of what it means, to them, to be one. Life's not black or white, and so, firm grips on your own beliefs are breaking points.

  • @StephenLewisful

    @StephenLewisful

    Жыл бұрын

    @Eyezayah It's definitely a trip. I politely disagree with the notion of an absolute anything so I do deny absolute black and white. Greyness implies a binary mixture of black and white while we see there are more than two sides of every issue. So I think of issues as a mixture of a spectrum of multiple views blending to make all sorts of colors when combined. In the end what I don't believe in is answers because answers would be final. The best humanity comes up with are solutions that minimize problems. Solutions are more flexible and can be replaced when a better solution comes along. That's my philosophy anyway and you git what ya paid fer it.🤠 Take care out there.

  • @gozde1658
    @gozde1658 Жыл бұрын

    Conservatism emphasize the tradition and common beliefs. It says that we should hold on to the tradition because they are built up in thousands of years. On the other hand liberalism doesn't care about tradition, even says that personal freedom is more important than anything and this can lead to demolition of traditions and cause drastic changes. We also know that conservatives are totally against any rapid changes.

  • @dylancrichton2227

    @dylancrichton2227

    9 күн бұрын

    It’s funny that the USA has a tradition of gun rights (supported by the right leaning conservatives) but liberalism as you have said is about personal freedom, and gun rights is most certainly a point where the individual wants their freedom to bare arms…

  • @MrChali-po6rf
    @MrChali-po6rf3 жыл бұрын

    Like si bienes por tarea de social studies

  • @adreenaura
    @adreenaura6 ай бұрын

    I am very liberal, compared to my family, but i see how liberalism in the west has divided us so much. There is no togetherness, at least not in America. It makes me sad.

  • @cedricquilal-lan1616
    @cedricquilal-lan1616 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to be spectatorism.

  • @Newberry-hk4fx
    @Newberry-hk4fx Жыл бұрын

    A Conservative is dying on their feet instead of living on their knees. It's not that Conservatives don't like social or cultural change. We don't like facts and truth ignored or removed just because someone says it should be, or because it makes people uncomfortable or hurts their feelings. Conservatives are reasonable, liberalism is complete idiocy.( Especially because the people pushing liberalism have never lived a day in an actually society of communism or socialism) Conservatives don't agree with using abortion as birth control. Conservatives believe in becoming a contributing member of society, instead of member grasping for everything we have worked for, while doing nothing. Conservatives believe liberalism spits on the very people who fought and died for the very freedom liberals mock and try to destroy. Conservatives believe in less government, while liberalism believes in government control. Conservatives believe in working hard, taking accountability for oneself, while liberalism believes in pointing fingers and deflecting blame. Liberalism will destroy this country from within, and when America falls there is no where to run too and there is no where to start over. Liberalism is the lie that things will get better, and I promise you they will be the first to cut and run with no where to go. They will sacrifice thier freedom for security and live on their knees, destroying the greatest country to ever be formed. Conservatives are fighting to preserve America.

  • @user-zu8gv7ml6v
    @user-zu8gv7ml6v9 ай бұрын

    As one becomes older they realize the things they wasted and naturally become more conservative of the things remaining especially the things they have worked to achieve. However, someone who never works to acheive anything will always ask for more of those giving !

  • @AshigoJam
    @AshigoJam4 ай бұрын

    Conservatism❌ Liberalism❌ Egalitarianism✅

  • @TorontoPopulistConservative
    @TorontoPopulistConservative Жыл бұрын

    The liberalism described in this video is my conservatism, almost to a tee. See, I believe that rugged individualism and personal freedom are the most important traditional values of the USA, and by American power and influence, other western countries as well. I always voted Liberal because I thought the definition given here was true. Upon paying further attention, I realized that what we are offered under left-wing parties nowadays is something radically different. Freedom is mocked, collectivism is praised and individualism ridiculed. Freedom of speech, freedom to defend one's self, freedom of assembly are all attacked by proponents of the modern left. The modern right seeks to disassociate from people who believe in racist or other discriminatory ideologies, is against race (or other immutable characteristic)-based categorization of people known as identity politics, and is vehemently against the erosion of freedom of speech colloquially refereed to as cancel culture. Due to the radical shift in recent times (or clarification of what the agenda was all along), I have found that conservatism better describes and brings about my beliefs centred around personal freedom.

  • @justamerica856

    @justamerica856

    Жыл бұрын

    What about if you don't believe that you MUST hold tradition and cutom as the most important required things to be happy. And instead you just believe that whatever leads to making you happy and healthy and isn't harmful (which can be anything that leads to positive outcome and not sadistic harmful) feelings) is important instead. What ism would you call that?

  • @TorontoPopulistConservative

    @TorontoPopulistConservative

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justamerica856 Individualism? This is actually what the founding fathers wanted, with "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as the most important basic rights. America's tradition is to be individualist, so I would say your ideology could be called personal individualism vs the national individualism that is enshrined in American values and tradition.

  • @epicphailure88

    @epicphailure88

    Жыл бұрын

    No such thing as a left-wing party in the US and Canada. Too many people are brainwashed by this basic fact.

  • @tonychen1860
    @tonychen1860 Жыл бұрын

    I see no reason why personal freedom and individual identity shouldn’t win out. If the entire world adopts the ideology of acceptance, we wouldn’t need borders and all cultures can be celebrated as one.

  • @meditaion-bv5zz
    @meditaion-bv5zz Жыл бұрын

    I still don't get it

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar4 жыл бұрын

    It is interesting for me, an American, to watch this because we define liberalism and conservatism very differently. In the U.S. conservatives fight to conserve the constitution as much as any cultural values. Our constitution is almost as old as our country, and much of our culture revolves around individual liberty. Those liberties are the fruit of our constitution, so our liberties, and our constitution, are tightly associated here. One of those liberties is the right to keep your own property, including, our incomes. People on the other side, whatever name you wish to refer to them by, liberals, leftists, progressives, etc... believe it is the right of the government, and a benefit, for government to tax people, from which money is given by the government to whoever they decide needs it. This behavior by the government is not described in the constitution, and charity is assumed by conservatives to be the responsibility of individuals, not the government.

  • @seonghwan2

    @seonghwan2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great response 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼.

  • @jimba6486

    @jimba6486

    3 жыл бұрын

    I disagree. To reword what you said to show what I think it is: It is interesting for me, an American, to watch this because we define liberalism and conservatism very differently. In the U.S. conservatives fight to conserve cultural values. Our constitution is almost as old as our country, and much of our culture revolves around individual liberty. Those liberties are the fruit of our constitution, so our liberties, and our constitution, are tightly associated here. One of those liberties is the right to keep your own property, including, our incomes. People on the other side, whatever name you wish to refer to them by, liberals, leftists, progressives, etc... believe that cultural values are not as important of a view to craft policy, instead to view it from a spectrum of Oppression and liberating individuals from institutions of Oppression. Your contrasting ideas @deezynar are not apples to apples comparison. Liberals obviously start at the same starting point as we conservatives do, and this the constitution. our differences are different on a pychological political axis. Civilization vs Barbarism. Wheras liberals think on terms of oppression versus liberation of oppression. You are falsely interpreting them as antithetical to what we think is important for a cohesive nation on strong patriotism.

  • @deezynar

    @deezynar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jimba6486 Liberals wish to change the constitution. You say that both sides start at the same starting point, the constitution, which is true, but conservatives wish to keep the constitution as is, at least mostly. Most conservatives would love an amendment outlawing abortion. But Leftists would change it significantly. First of all, they'd mutilate the first amendment by adding "hate speech" clauses. And they'd just repeal the second. They'd make abortion, homosexuality, bisexuality, pansexuality, transexuality, and every other type deviancy you can think of, would all be constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of course, they'd pass an equal rights amendment that would claim to give females equal rights to men, even though the constitution does not currently differentiate between men and women. Leftists would probably make drug use a constitutionally protected right as well. Leftism has mutated over time. Originally, it was just about being against capitalism, but over time it has embraced moral deviancy as firmly as Marxism. So, in a way, you, and I, agree that culture is one of the central issues here. The changes that Leftists wish to make would absolutely have cultural ramifications, and they are motivated to change our culture by changing our constitution. My original comment said that conservatives in the U.S. "fight to conserve the constitution as much as any cultural values. Those liberties are the fruit of our constitution, so our liberties, and our constitution, are tightly associated here." My point being that culture and constitution are directly linked. There is one more issue that neither of us mentioned. There are people on the Left who are actively working to destroy the United States, not just turn it into a paradise for drug addicts, and sexual deviants. They believe that running it into the ground, destroying our economic structure as well as our morals, then they hope to come in afterward and create what they hope will be a Marxist paradise, but would actually be a living hell on earth. Antifa, and Black Lives Matter, are both working towards that goal.

  • @G_Koch

    @G_Koch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@deezynar You're calling homosexuality, bisexuality etc. a "deviancy"?

  • @GuilhermeRodrigues-wj9ps

    @GuilhermeRodrigues-wj9ps

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're just a stupid ancap then

  • @sterlingpless9280
    @sterlingpless9280 Жыл бұрын

    Neither one is right our best leader would be a combination or centrist to get along

  • @godlike1361
    @godlike1361 Жыл бұрын

    kinda sad that America has reduced to this. The issue with two sides to choose is one can be problematic if you lean on one side further. The ideal part of the spectrum is the center. Why do people forget that Moderates don't exists?

  • @justamerica856
    @justamerica856 Жыл бұрын

    What about if you don't believe that you MUST hold tradition and cutom as the most important required things to be happy. And instead you just believe that whatever leads to making you happy and healthy and isn't harmful (which can be anything that leads to positive outcome and not sadistic harmful) feelings) is important instead. What ism would you call that?

  • @godlike1361

    @godlike1361

    Жыл бұрын

    That's liberalism bro

  • @SharpTownGuru
    @SharpTownGuru11 ай бұрын

    Common Liberalism W

  • @heygema
    @heygema Жыл бұрын

    The common beliefs that we're breathing duh, *yeah I se the argument **voice lowered down***

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr51793 ай бұрын

    That's all conservatism Does is Hold us Back to Process.

  • @LarryBonson

    @LarryBonson

    3 ай бұрын

    Progress lead us not knowing what women is 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Srindal4657
    @Srindal465724 күн бұрын

    Liberal argument: communities are made up of individuals. Help an individual and you help the community

  • @CollectvlyUnconsious
    @CollectvlyUnconsious3 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever thought that maybe the civilizations that succeeded do so because they adapted true principles about human nature that lead to social welfare, and passed those on through tradition? Like taboos against sexual promiscuity. Prior to anti-biotics and contraceptives, abstinence and monogamy protected from deadly disease pandemics like AIDS, Syphilis, and also TB though that isn't a STD it was often had by poor prostitutes. Societies that had strong taboos against promiscuity had less single parent households, which was and is the biggest indicator of future criminal activity. They had less poverty, which meant society could spend more time on Philosophy, medicine. Research. If you investigate every taboo held by conservatism you will find evolutionary advantages those taboos would yield historically. Progressive Liberals now tend to make changes based on how they, or someone else will feel... not based on evidence or even really a plan.

  • @coreyx8819

    @coreyx8819

    2 жыл бұрын

    which means liberalism is all about being whiny poosis while conservative is facts don't care about emotions

  • @ilikepancakes2368

    @ilikepancakes2368

    Жыл бұрын

    People will be promiscuous regardless of you make them taboo or not. It’s ironic how you complain about single motherhood and criminal activity when abortion rights can easily prevent these as long as we make them accessible. But conservatives are not interested in preventing poverty or crime as much as they are interested into punishing women for being sexually expressive.

  • @dagothur3592

    @dagothur3592

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ilikepancakes2368 Saying abortion stops single motherhood is akin to saying killing homeless people will lower the number of homeless people. It technically works, but its frowned upon. Edit: the first part was dumb because I misread your comment

  • @bharat-dz9wi

    @bharat-dz9wi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ilikepancakes2368 yes, but the percentages matter no matter how much you say they don't. Like your parents not talking to you or society looking at you a certain way can take you off that path of self destruction. The west faces this exact problem of accept me who I am even if I slept with people in the past. For example if you are in a buffet and you're in line and everyone is eating for 10 dollars but suddenly when your turn comes the staff closes the lid and asks you to commit and invest in the business then only you'll get your meal will you do it ? That's exactly how mordern women operate. They go on lavish dates get ran through in their 20s then ask you to settle in their 30s and to commit. That's the problem. Why should I accept a women in her decline when she rejected me in her prime ? I rather have a traditional mother who can raise my children. Prostitutes are not even allowed near children for a reason.

  • @deadman746
    @deadman746 Жыл бұрын

    Liberalism isn't opposed to conservatism. Progressivism is.

  • @Islas_Canarias
    @Islas_Canarias4 ай бұрын

    The young are liberal. The older folks are conservative.

  • @user-fi5go3jv4p

    @user-fi5go3jv4p

    13 сағат бұрын

    No I'm 19 and I'm a hardcore conservative 😂😂😂

  • @SussyBacha
    @SussyBacha11 ай бұрын

    Liberalism is metal AF

  • @Usonan-Foderation2016
    @Usonan-Foderation20163 ай бұрын

    1:45 Showing Lenin doesn't help your case, bud

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr51793 ай бұрын

    Remember what conservatives did to Copernicus

  • @tat2urface1
    @tat2urface12 жыл бұрын

    Theoretically, this is perhaps true however in practice there are enormous differences in how these ideologies behave across western societies. Liberals seem to favor government control, and desire more stringent policies regarding laws that they believe will benefit their viewpoint. Conservatives almost exclusively promote minimal governmental involvement and stand for individual freedom, as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's freedoms. To reinforce this observation, conservatives are more focused on strengthening the nuclear family and reinforcing the role of parental guidance while the liberals are focused on collectivism, wanting to assign the state with more authority over children than the parents, via learning institutions, often trying to incorporate their values into school curriculums to indoctrinate children into their ideological views. Freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom to remain open during a pandemic and freedom to decide what irreversible medical procedures are performed on them are all examples of these same overall views on the part of liberals and conservatives.

  • @mcredwolf925

    @mcredwolf925

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a liberal I couldn’t disagree more. This is a completely closed-minded view on the two. Here’s an example that I would argue is more accurate and inclusive of sub-groups. Im its most general sense, Liberals believe in helping those of need (meaning people who are disadvantaged) first. Conservatives believe in upholding the status quo; be it empires of government

  • @stayswervin554

    @stayswervin554

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mc redwolf If you actually look at what he said he’s right on the money. But you define a liberal as someone who wants to help others when I disagree. Conservatives donate more to charity Liberals try to steal others wealth and dictate where it goes Conservatives believe in individual Liberals believe in government or collectivism

  • @mcredwolf925

    @mcredwolf925

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stayswervin554 That is misconstrued I feel. I personally would rather see a level playing field over taking peoples money. It’s like the powerful control us and abuse their privileges, so why not take what they stole from us?

  • @Snowaxe3D
    @Snowaxe3D Жыл бұрын

    I guess I am neither,

  • @charles_0017
    @charles_00178 ай бұрын

    I always struggled to understand the liberal mindset. Thanks for giving me some insight, although I still remain staunchly a conservative.

  • @thedissidentleftist6997

    @thedissidentleftist6997

    7 ай бұрын

    Mostly, it's the timeline difference. Nowadays, it takes 20 -30 years to get any new stuff passed, so it's easy to lose motivations or forget when being a liberal. For conservates it's too fast for them then they get frustrated when over a wide swathe of USA there are no other competitions to Republican party. After all, conservate media and Democrat politicians are a decade behind liberals on Israel.

  • @ndiaz1982
    @ndiaz1982 Жыл бұрын

    I guess I'm a conservative, but at the end of the day, Idc if it doesn't affect me

  • @godlike1361

    @godlike1361

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah, most people are moderates without them knowing. Taking stances in both ideologies.

  • @MartinHomeVideo
    @MartinHomeVideo4 ай бұрын

    Conservatism and liberalism don’t stand against each other. Antagonism of conservatism is progressivism and antagonism of liberalism is fascism!

  • @SnipSnip477
    @SnipSnip4773 жыл бұрын

    So many liberal keyboarding warriors here

  • @CUP1D0N
    @CUP1D0NАй бұрын

    Long live to libs though. They saved me from the single mindset and I learnt what’s nuance from them. Lovely, an ex cons.

  • @shadowguarder2857
    @shadowguarder2857 Жыл бұрын

    so liberalism is... freedom and conservatism is... culture?

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr51793 ай бұрын

    Yes I became a liberal after what they did to my KING ELVIS , they took away his freedom of Being Elvis.😅

  • @mitchmiller6366
    @mitchmiller63663 жыл бұрын

    Remake for 2020

  • @willyhwang1059
    @willyhwang1059 Жыл бұрын

    it's a spectrum

  • @RJ-hm9gi
    @RJ-hm9gi6 ай бұрын

    I think many liberals would like less gov't. Has conservatism understood this?

  • @adamiskander2759
    @adamiskander2759 Жыл бұрын

    Based Conservatism

  • @gimiwanmemengwaa
    @gimiwanmemengwaa7 ай бұрын

    I think it means more with conservative, but I can’t agree with anti gay marriage, or just gay people, or like able ism and stuff that stuff needs to be normalized and not segregated

  • @sirdharpusa1979
    @sirdharpusa19792 жыл бұрын

    F**K youtube. This is the kind of videos that I would really like to see likes to dislike ratio.

  • @PhilosophyVibe

    @PhilosophyVibe

    2 жыл бұрын

    As of right now it is 93.3% likes vs dislikes

  • @TorontoPopulistConservative

    @TorontoPopulistConservative

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PhilosophyVibe Because of Liberals, only you can really know that to be a verifiable fact, lol.

  • @pipeyto7
    @pipeyto7 Жыл бұрын

    This isn't really entirely true anymore

  • @shaymicah4194
    @shaymicah41943 жыл бұрын

    The end part of the conservatives last point giving a warning of what could come to pass if we let liberals have free reign is conservatives fears. Conservatives are known to predicate much of their reasoning by fear. So its funny how the video ended that way. Lol.

  • @Spider58x

    @Spider58x

    3 жыл бұрын

    The end of the video was correct, if everyone is an individual then logically there can't exist a common culture in which people can be united around then society collapse. This is the logical conclusion of individualism/liberalism. Dismissing this as just a "fear" of conservatives is just being disenginous.

  • @juanpablonunez2828

    @juanpablonunez2828

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Spider58x Having freedom doesn’t mean all interest are different. Liberals can choose to surround themselves with other liberals that may stronger family values, or ties to the faith. The liberals mean no enforcement but that’s it’s not necessary lack of unity. Liberals promote voluntary unions rather than forced unions.

  • @masticloxpoker1006

    @masticloxpoker1006

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Spider58x That just does not follow logicly, i am sorry, you just projecting your fear.

  • @anthonyymm511

    @anthonyymm511

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Spider58x How does not having a common culture mean a country collapses? What exactly goes wrong when you have a society of individuals?

  • @hithere748

    @hithere748

    Жыл бұрын

    The last part of the video is proving to be right.

  • @miketempleton6789
    @miketempleton6789 Жыл бұрын

    This is a beautifully incorrect definition. The words conservative and liberal are in reference to the amount of control that should be given to the government. Kinda like shampoo… “apply a liberal amount of shampoo” or “add a liberal amount of cheese” “Ratify a liberal number of new laws” “add a liberal amount of taxes” etc..

  • @jessiescholten9119
    @jessiescholten9119 Жыл бұрын

    Damn his speech about libarism didn't age too well

  • @robertdeffenbaugh9004
    @robertdeffenbaugh90042 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to change I’m cool with change as long as it isn’t harmful that’s the thing Liberals want Anarchy.

  • @juanpablonunez2828

    @juanpablonunez2828

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, liberals want freedom as long it doesn’t harm anyone else. In order to protect those from being harmed, the state is necessary. It’s a very basic and simple state thought.

  • @robertdeffenbaugh9004

    @robertdeffenbaugh9004

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juanpablonunez2828 Liberals take away freedoms from people all the time. They want anarchy.

  • @juanpablonunez2828

    @juanpablonunez2828

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertdeffenbaugh9004 How can you have anarchy with a state ? Liberals focus on the protection of life, liberty, and property under the non aggression principle. In order to protect those three rights, a state force and judicial system is needed. If the state exists, there is no anarchy. Anarcho capitalism does call for anarchism tho. Nevertheless, they are extreme one within the liberalism school of thought. You can have liberals, minarchist, and ancaps. That’s the order of increasing individual freedom.

  • @robertdeffenbaugh9004

    @robertdeffenbaugh9004

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juanpablonunez2828 Liberals committed a lot of anarchy since the 2014 Riot.

  • @juanpablonunez2828

    @juanpablonunez2828

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertdeffenbaugh9004 Liberals by definition respect private property. There was looting involved in such riots. Just because the word Liberal is being used as a brand doesn’t equate the meaning of the word is open to change. A liberal respects unrestrictedly thy neighbor’s life project under the principle of non aggression. A liberal state protects/respects the three rights (life, liberty, and property) of the individuals under the principle of non aggression as well.

  • @jameszelaznysr5179
    @jameszelaznysr51793 ай бұрын

    😅 if it wasn't for liberals we would not have science . Doctors or Cars especially our PHONES 'S

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