Confessions of a Chinese Elite on Dark CCP Secrets | Ep. 684

Desmond Shum is a billionaire elite from China who has published a book called "Red Roulette: An Insider's Story of Wealth, Power, Corruption and Vengeance in Today's China". His wife was taken by the CCP in 2017 and Desmond couldn't reach her... until he received a mysterious phone call 2 years later before he published his book.
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What We Discuss with Desmond:
00:00 - Intro
00:06 - Intellectuals and businesspeople are bottom of the caste
02:54 - Moving to Hong Kong after Mao died
08:21 - Tiananmen and controlling Chinese history
10:58 - When Desmond began to see corruption in China
15:01 - Dancing in the grey zone
18:58 - The Red Aristocrats and their access to a better supply chain
24:56 - How Desmond's wife gave him social mobility
33:51 - Investing in an insurance company made Desmond a billionaire
41:07 - The crazy stuff Desmond bought
47:20 - Triple networking dinners the Chinese elite have
51:42 - Being an entrepreneur in communist China
54:54 - High-level Chinese officials can't leave the country
56:38 - Why the "richest people in China" list keeps changing
1:01:00 - Desmond's wife is still missing
1:07:32 - Desmond vs. the CCP
1:13:10 - Marching in a pro-CCP rally in Hong Kong
Desmond Shum was warned not to publish in a surprise phone call from his ex-wife, “Whitney” Duan Weihong, who had been abducted by the Chinese government and had disappeared without a trace four years prior. It’s the book our recent guest Bill Browder - no stranger to attracting the ire of corrupt, authoritarian regimes - says is: “Powerful and disturbing…The Chinese government will not be happy with this book. Desmond Shum lifts the curtain behind the supposed Chinese economic miracle, portraying government leaders driven by corruption, conflict of interest, and greed. Rarely has anyone in modern China been brave enough to violate its oppressive code of silence and give an honest firsthand account of what really goes on in the corridors of power. Shum breaks all the rules so we can see it for ourselves and it’s not pretty.”
In this episode, Desmond joins us to share how he emerged from the shadow of his socially low-ranking parents to amass billions with the blessing of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), and why he decided to turn on the corrupt system that had rewarded him so richly. Here, we’ll learn just how far the Chinese government goes to enforce its will, and how far it’s willing to go to punish those who transgress against it. Listen, learn, and enjoy!
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  • @buzzcrushtrendkill
    @buzzcrushtrendkill Жыл бұрын

    I went to university in China for a year, then worked there for 6 years. This guy is very brave to speak openly like this. Even though he is now in the UK, guaranteed the Chinese embassy in London know about him and I would bet, been given warnings and threats.

  • @ericyeo805

    @ericyeo805

    Жыл бұрын

    What so brave when he could have been the citizen there or an American. What so holy and democratic are the west ? They never stand up for Assange as the US also wants him dead for publishing news that were negative on them. Only the US government can do an Assange job but not China in your eyes.

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda! Not as brave as Julian Assange or Edward Snowden!

  • @ianjohngonzales4066

    @ianjohngonzales4066

    Жыл бұрын

    They're gonna hunt him down and kidnap him back to that bloody country and be sent to their gulags or even hanged.

  • @SokhomPrins

    @SokhomPrins

    Жыл бұрын

    I am on Xi and puppet Hun Sen, Biden death list. Reason I am an author, the influencer, world activist, historian. My memoir Love of Life - A Miraculous Story! I blow whistle on mafia Xi’s China.

  • @SokhomPrins

    @SokhomPrins

    Жыл бұрын

    Blood money that what you got. This criminals legitimise crime, themselves so that escape punishment. Such evil.

  • @hunterthompson5680
    @hunterthompson56802 жыл бұрын

    Expat in China for 7 years. This episode has been profoundly useful for revealing what the govt is all about where I am living. Red Roulette is at the top of my reading list. It's kind of cool to find a channel like your before it blows up 😎

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Actually YT is 0.5% of my audience. The Jordan Harbinger Show is one of the largest audio podcasts in the world. More episodes there (I don't post them all on YT and mostly ignore this channel)

  • @Raptorsified

    @Raptorsified

    Жыл бұрын

    Real talk if you been there for 7 years and need a KZread video to tell you these things you weren't really living in China.

  • @brendanbarnes1994

    @brendanbarnes1994

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s dead now after making that comment

  • @ShiroHimex

    @ShiroHimex

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Raptorsified Just because you live somewhere and or suffer through whatever the ruling party thrusts upon you does not mean you know or understand the inner workings of their world.

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @timlong1525
    @timlong15252 жыл бұрын

    Wow this deserves so many more views. I read Red Roulette back in October, and it was eye opening. Desmond is an inspiration, and an example for the rest of us to stand up for our values.

  • @JustMe-gs9xi

    @JustMe-gs9xi

    Жыл бұрын

    just found the channel,,,, share it. F em' All those people that think they can destroy us,,,, NOPE,,, i say KARMA is coming. so nobody be afraid to share it rightt? like look what happened to China,,, We have to TRY to get this out, TOO many people are sleeping.

  • @limtauchin3107

    @limtauchin3107

    Жыл бұрын

    M km jnn. You n

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @stevensibbet5869

    @stevensibbet5869

    Жыл бұрын

    do you recommend the book?

  • @timlong1525

    @timlong1525

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevensibbet5869 Definitely

  • @ryanjofre
    @ryanjofre Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic interview. Please god protect this man🙏🙏

  • @yongmeichen6802
    @yongmeichen6802 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up there. I agree with every words from Mr. Shen.

  • @princyok8058
    @princyok80582 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. Huge insight into the Chinese elite and government. Glad Laowhy brought this interview to my attention.

  • @patriciapalmer4215

    @patriciapalmer4215

    Жыл бұрын

    I've watched those 2 wonderful characters from day one on the odyssey motorcycle trip and since. We're in good company!

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @vulcanken1273
    @vulcanken1273 Жыл бұрын

    A salute to a very courageous Chinese man.

  • @JC4SPORT
    @JC4SPORT2 жыл бұрын

    I APLAUED Desmond Shum for what he for his son and himself 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙌! His wife was already lost..

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @patriciapalmer4215
    @patriciapalmer4215 Жыл бұрын

    I'm discerning and no matter the subject, every offering on this channel is golden and well worth your time. Thank you, Jordan.

  • @ianjohngonzales4066
    @ianjohngonzales4066 Жыл бұрын

    There should be a school be named, University of Corruption or a course Bachelor of Science of Corruption or even a masteral degree for that.

  • @miguelmontero3020

    @miguelmontero3020

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I guess you’re too naive with out knowing about it, the system of Corruption, first you have to enter Politics, then when you’re in there are several Doors of Corruption left Open by the system its up to you to get in and just be Cautious to get in and out until your Bank account it too much to Handle for you, then you have to exit gracefully alright?? Then Business as usual for the Beginners or new Kidz on the Block.

  • @brek5
    @brek52 жыл бұрын

    Dude, Chinese $ abroad is 100% visible in SE Asia. Go to Laos, Cambodia... heck, all over, but it's just there, and people often making what would be silly investments elsewhere, but they just want to park their cash and are almost (or basically) desperate to find some place to put it all.

  • @divin777

    @divin777

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am a professional painter in Copenhagen. I did work for like 3 years on a 7-year-long project where the main investors were Chinese nationals. Regularly we would see a group of them walking around...

  • @nvaravind5394

    @nvaravind5394

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it is problem for the locals. They rise the cost of real estate and other assets.

  • @sylvainleseur1072
    @sylvainleseur1072 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to share. It's still a good reason to fight this filthy single-thought dictatorship

  • @zennow5073
    @zennow50732 жыл бұрын

    I knew someone that worked in China who stated the Han Chinese communist population could not tell or care about the difference between right and wrong.

  • @rachelbaziak4159

    @rachelbaziak4159

    Жыл бұрын

    Just like America.

  • @zennow5073

    @zennow5073

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachelbaziak4159 yes, usually woke leftists.

  • @tinthaung7118

    @tinthaung7118

    Жыл бұрын

    @ZEN NOW….. that someone is correct. People who know n care about diff: between right n wrong can hardly survive under CCP Chinese kind of gov: for long. ( Most population suffer twisted mental illness without realizing. ) It’ll take years to untangle twisted mental illness for some people. I can see flaws in democratic countries but they are better than CCP China’s kind of oppress gov:’s countries. Living as prisoners ( they have to answer “. All is well “ to their authority every day. ) or hostages under oppress gov: people can say their gov:s are good n they are fine. They are not allow to criticize their own gov:. They wouldn’t dare to criticize their own gov:. So they became brainless bots. Pity. I came from a country which copy corrupt CCP Chinese’ every dirty trick, lies n oppression. USA is my adopted country. USA is not perfect but I appreciate it very much. I don’t have to twist my emotion n lie myself or for others or discard my dignity. I can be myself. I can think , speak n act honestly. What a freedom it is? In God we trust are printed on dollars. God bless America. God save n protect America from all evils n dangers.🙏❤️🙏

  • @jamesl2590

    @jamesl2590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachelbaziak4159 Nope. The basis for wrong actions are totally different in America and China. In America, people know its wrong and yet chose to do it. In China, its simply "market practice" and there are no religious / moral compass for them to rationalize their actions.

  • @bel62

    @bel62

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jamesl2590 so you can say that it is a species that is not part of the human race, even worse they are harmful to humanity

  • @TierraDoradaEnLaCosta
    @TierraDoradaEnLaCosta Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for speaking out. We all have to speak out!

  • @rayfinkle9369
    @rayfinkle9369 Жыл бұрын

    It'd be great if you could interview him again and catch up on any new updates.

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    😂⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @fs5775
    @fs5775 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, such a hierarchical society - always about power games. Grateful to be born in the U.S.

  • @youaremytube1974

    @youaremytube1974

    Жыл бұрын

    Not for long...the democratic is selling us out.

  • @OnimeDoobs
    @OnimeDoobs Жыл бұрын

    Damn what a good interview, subbed, liked and fav"d.

  • @buddhahead27

    @buddhahead27

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I sub too. Just because of this interview the first I ever watched from this channel Not enough people expose the criminal CCP

  • @unitedstatesdale
    @unitedstatesdale2 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Harbinger should have 10 million subscribers. Epic interview !!!!!

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @bingolittle8725
    @bingolittle87252 жыл бұрын

    Leaving China always feels like an escape.

  • @naturalmusic2789

    @naturalmusic2789

    2 жыл бұрын

    And yet returning always feels like a relief... the same relief I feel when I return to my mother's home. The relief of being in a comfy prison. t's quite the paradox...

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @fs5775

    @fs5775

    Жыл бұрын

    👆THIS. 100% !! June 5th 2022 was when I escaped. Never again!

  • @Tyrhonius

    @Tyrhonius

    Жыл бұрын

    In my case, leaving China always feels like "back to reality." It's a cultural Disneyland for me.

  • @divin777
    @divin7772 жыл бұрын

    Amazing insights! Thanks for your work, Sir!

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    thank you and welcome

  • @Samir-oe7zf
    @Samir-oe7zf2 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. Wish it was longer. 2 hours would have been ideal with this guest (or any other really)

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    I try to keep it concise to respect peoples time as well. Your time, viewer/listener :)

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh and thank you! Kind words.

  • @yasyasamoun9960

    @yasyasamoun9960

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JordanHarbingerShow You're Awesome! this 2 hrs Video value 20,000 hours time in High School, Thanks to hear, FBI& CIA very trust full, But don't under estimate, Around this world next couple years, Hundred thousand Chinese African Babies in Each African States, CCP Building Giant Hospital, Air Ports, Highspeed trains, Chinese School Any where in Small town, Teach how to care on COVID 19, Give you Jobs as house keeper, or plant cocaine for them etc did this world people seen Silk Road etc. New Tall Building in Mien Ma, in Laos, in Cambodia, in Viet Nam, in Philippine etc, how many mien people can afford to buy these home, will see 400,000,000. young doctor out to volunteer the world to eliminate or to free COVID 19. that is my Guess. Thank for every thing, very help full

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@JordanHarbingerShow ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @315NY
    @315NY2 жыл бұрын

    Love your content, so diverse and informative. My #1 podcast for 6 months straight and I still haven't listened to everything. Keep them coming and thank you.

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. There's a LOT more in The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed that doesn't go onto KZread

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@JordanHarbingerShow⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @margaretgreenwood4243
    @margaretgreenwood4243 Жыл бұрын

    Chinese Law sounds like the law in Frank Kafka’s “The Trial”, where the defendant never found out what he was accused of or why

  • @picilocarnal

    @picilocarnal

    Жыл бұрын

    Like Mexico

  • @jamesstmanhattan
    @jamesstmanhattan2 жыл бұрын

    You should have Kevin Rudd on the podcast, he's gonna be the cherry on top of your China playlist.

  • @seymorefact4333

    @seymorefact4333

    Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️🇺🇸⭐️🇬🇧⭐️ corruption... that's why the USA IS #1. IT'S THE MOST CORRUPT OF ALL!😂😂😂 ONLY difference is USA corruption leads to mass homelessness, mass daily shootings, third world education, and infrastructure. Poor healthcare system and the US state run media that have world-class propoganda!

  • @clairehere1837
    @clairehere18372 жыл бұрын

    I am Chinese and I confirmed that what he says is true

  • @clairehere1837

    @clairehere1837

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is exactly like what the video says and the most amazing part is that he lived in Honkong and still grasped all of the details, the correctness is absolutely amazing

  • @burningknuckle26

    @burningknuckle26

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ur not chinese ur just a faker

  • @williss1192
    @williss1192 Жыл бұрын

    Desmond isn't hiding from his 'guilt' he says it how it is, he squandered millions for meals and entertainment.

  • @outisnemo555
    @outisnemo555 Жыл бұрын

    The interviewer in the beginning confused traditional Chinese culture with what happened during the 1960s (Cultural Revolution). Teachers are respected and well paid under the Imperial Confucian order. The Cultural Revolution specifically targeted the Imperial Confucian order.

  • @hananokuni2580

    @hananokuni2580

    Жыл бұрын

    The Cultural Revolution did hurt traditional culture in China, but it didn't completely destroy it.

  • @kn9ioutom
    @kn9ioutom Жыл бұрын

    IF YOU FORGET THE 2008 CORRUPTION YOU WILL REPEAT IT !!!

  • @tinyraskalGz
    @tinyraskalGz Жыл бұрын

    The tip thing that parents pay happens in most Asian schools. Not just in china. Happens in Cambodia and other places also. Some teachers are assholes too expecting too much from each student on a regular basis.

  • @downundertruckerusa4733
    @downundertruckerusa47332 жыл бұрын

    Loved it

  • @jenbee483
    @jenbee483 Жыл бұрын

    IT is always the same, when a company became profitable, some government - local, municipal, provincial, central governments would come and grab it. Yet, the consequence is mostly always the same - the company went out of business. My father managed a joint venture among a farm from Guangzhou and some Hong Kong companies, and a Japanese company back in late 80s and mid 90s.The company was very successful its products were well received in Guangzhou and in southern China, then here came the city government and took it over. And yes, they took my father's passport too.

  • @lemokemo5752
    @lemokemo5752 Жыл бұрын

    I love this episode, but it would be good with a clearer timeline. I'm just curious about his relationship with the CCP pre-Hong Kong-handover and post-Hong Kong-handover. His parents took him to British Hong Kong, but after 1997, the same region was in Chinese hands.

  • @alyvarin1106
    @alyvarin1106 Жыл бұрын

    I did not know how bad the corruption in China; I did hear that we, the U.S., have "political donation" and "lobbies"...

  • @picilocarnal

    @picilocarnal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your eagerness to point it out. Pretty sure there is corruption anywhere where humans gather. This video is about talking about China’s corrupt style. We can’t talk about everything in this one video.

  • @vincentl4691
    @vincentl46912 жыл бұрын

    Great, riveting interview. Came at the suggestion of Laowhy86

  • @theodorearaujo971
    @theodorearaujo971 Жыл бұрын

    Can't leave the U.S. if a person is charged with a Felony. Bail always has conditions prohibiting interstate and international travel.

  • @Archrume
    @Archrume8 ай бұрын

    I was 6 years old in 1989- I was never told about the story until i spontaneously talked to an Australian when I was traveling in Indonesia when I was 31 years old.

  • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
    @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Жыл бұрын

    "In May 1993, Desmond went back to Hong Kong right after finishing his double major in finance and accounting in the United States." I wonder if he lived at Lothlorien Co-op briefly? We had a Chinese exchange student there for a semester - looks like Desmond kind of - and was at the same time in Madison! hahaha.

  • @juliusjanardhanseptimus352
    @juliusjanardhanseptimus3522 жыл бұрын

    Just incredible. Great interview. Gives you a rare insight on how the CCP is run. Amazing single minded organization in managing it's affairs and taking its place in this world. Then the US and the west must be ever vigilant in protecting their freedom. I wanted to visit China one day but there is now the thought at the back of your mind that something might go wrong and I might be stuck there for a looonng time.

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    welcome & thanks for watching

  • @gkfujiwaraesquibel7998
    @gkfujiwaraesquibel7998 Жыл бұрын

    In China, all people are equal. The ordinary citizens suffer equally, while politicians get rich equally. Sick country indeed.

  • @peterbradshaw8018

    @peterbradshaw8018

    Жыл бұрын

    We are watching you

  • @gkfujiwaraesquibel7998

    @gkfujiwaraesquibel7998

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterbradshaw8018 1984 vibes

  • @peterbradshaw8018

    @peterbradshaw8018

    Жыл бұрын

    So true, Animal Farm too.

  • @ThaidUp
    @ThaidUp2 жыл бұрын

    So what happened to his wife????

  • @zzzzzsleeping

    @zzzzzsleeping

    Жыл бұрын

    His wife became like Patty Hearst.

  • @jesslocsin3542
    @jesslocsin3542 Жыл бұрын

    700 square feet is 65.032 square meter. Seven hundred square feet covers one-fourth of a standard tennis court. If it were a single room, it would measure about 26 by 27 feet.

  • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

    @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

    Жыл бұрын

    700 sq. feet is pretty big

  • @huadeliang348
    @huadeliang348 Жыл бұрын

    let a person who left china 40 years ago talking about the presence of china,which are all based on his assumption

  • @lordsysop
    @lordsysop2 жыл бұрын

    Loving all these podcasts... I used to watch laowhy but thought they were being to critical towards china when racial tensions were high with covid. I hated seeing all the Asian attacks in the west and I thought it could be fuel for that. After this podcast I am thinking this is a bigger problem than I thought and I went back to watching laowhy and serpentza. It's sad what all these people have been through and it's the tip of the iceberg

  • @hajtomjones4077

    @hajtomjones4077

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thought the same but before I leave something I check it out first then quickly realized these two being one of the first bloggers in China was right. They have alot of connection on the ground. Maybe not CCP but those two have actual connections to so many of the common man due to their motorcycle trips. That's why they know so much on what's happening on the ground and many reach out to them.

  • @margaretgreenwood4243
    @margaretgreenwood4243 Жыл бұрын

    Machiavelli thought Luck played an important part in life

  • @picilocarnal

    @picilocarnal

    Жыл бұрын

    🤯🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🤪

  • @belindalee6349
    @belindalee6349 Жыл бұрын

    Great videos Jordan. No pretence.

  • @jokekelleey2071
    @jokekelleey20712 жыл бұрын

    Are they go shopping at one of your stores and you're the relative and they can spend thousands of dollars at the store because you related and that's how they launder the money

  • @TheLazyClips

    @TheLazyClips

    2 жыл бұрын

    CCP Government shill activity alert!

  • @lordsysop
    @lordsysop2 жыл бұрын

    How does this guy sleep knowing the torture his ex wife is going through...

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    crazy right?

  • @lordsysop

    @lordsysop

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JordanHarbingerShow love your show by the way. Keeps my mind busy while I'm working. Thanks a bunch. Amazing interviews

  • @bradleyhalfacre7992

    @bradleyhalfacre7992

    Жыл бұрын

    He does not seem to be very emotional about his wife.

  • @leaw6835

    @leaw6835

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bradleyhalfacre7992 His ex.

  • @bradleyhalfacre7992

    @bradleyhalfacre7992

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leaw6835 I have an ex and I would be very concerned for her , this fellow seems to be completely cold and dismissive , he is a narcissist I would say. and or his wife was just a means to get rich only , that seems to be what he cares about , the money .

  • @ChickenMcThiccken
    @ChickenMcThiccken Жыл бұрын

    corruption is worthless.

  • @hananokuni2580

    @hananokuni2580

    Жыл бұрын

    In the end it is. Meanwhile many are those making use of corruption.

  • @halinaleonowicz8038
    @halinaleonowicz8038 Жыл бұрын

    Not exactly true about east, Polish government open fire at protesting workers in shipyard in Gdańsk. Memorial was erected for this after government was overcomed.

  • @boonedockjourneyman7979
    @boonedockjourneyman7979 Жыл бұрын

    Brave

  • @cesarsantagadea8079
    @cesarsantagadea80792 жыл бұрын

    So there is no law and still investment keep coming. 3th world countries, take a note. No need to development a judicial system, just offer shady but attractive business.

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 Жыл бұрын

    Separate but equal. Some people are more equal than others. How dare he criticize this perfect system.

  • @gareafu5622
    @gareafu5622 Жыл бұрын

    U should know every country and system is complicated. And evolving . As a kid he moved to Hongkong, meaning he really not know too much about China which would qualify him to give you his so called insight , even his family or grandparents may also way outdated…..

  • @dealman3312
    @dealman33122 жыл бұрын

    Laowhy86 channel sent me

  • @hubertschmitt4250
    @hubertschmitt4250 Жыл бұрын

    "Either you are with us, or you are our enemy"?

  • @arthurriaf8052
    @arthurriaf805211 ай бұрын

    HOW LONG WILL THE CHINESE PEOPLE SUFFER THESE INJUSTICES? ART

  • @EyreEver
    @EyreEver Жыл бұрын

    He whom the Son sets free is free indeed.

  • @my2cents505
    @my2cents505 Жыл бұрын

    He is quite right. You know the chinese are very 含蓄, meaning they say certain things in a very low profile watered down way. Like "Guangxi" the chinese always say u need this to get things done. In short "guangxi" is just knowing someone who can be of help and you can "pay" to get things done. So "Guangxi" then bcoms an intangible assets the society will garner for use when times come.

  • @HCF6
    @HCF6 Жыл бұрын

    Teachers get lots of pension, however. About 728 USD even in rural areas, while farmers get 17 USD in poor Henan province. Obviously, people in big cites get high pension. Generally, civil servant, high too.

  • @tinyraskalGz
    @tinyraskalGz Жыл бұрын

    5 dollars per month for a third world country is common. Third world countries and economy and reverse inflation for back then and 5 dollars isn't so bad. Considering back then you can buy a mansion in Australia for a couple thousand dollars

  • @markngo3618
    @markngo3618 Жыл бұрын

    Ccp ruined everything

  • @JustMe-gs9xi
    @JustMe-gs9xi Жыл бұрын

    Did he say $5 dollars US a MONTH???? Is that NOW,,, or did he mean in the 1960's,,, and HOW do you support a household and food and bills???? Good LORD it sounds like true poverty,, and having to get dressed and wear nice professinoal clean clothes.. every day. People in poverty have problems with space and water. see,, NOBODY Knows these things,,,, the general US pubic Needs to know this!

  • @jocelynnowen3078

    @jocelynnowen3078

    Жыл бұрын

    1960s $5 a month

  • @JustMe-gs9xi

    @JustMe-gs9xi

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ha Ha

  • @ShermanWilliamsVideo
    @ShermanWilliamsVideo2 жыл бұрын

    Jordan has a weird relationship with the word ghetto.

  • @willarth9186
    @willarth9186 Жыл бұрын

    ANOTHER video where the voices are so soft and low I can't hear them without straining.

  • @patriciapalmer4215
    @patriciapalmer4215 Жыл бұрын

    Oh no ! No ! Oh my God, no..! How a bunch of us saw Tianamen on tv, CNN ? but we did, a lot of it. Images and friends screaming and crying.

  • @luckybamboo104
    @luckybamboo104 Жыл бұрын

    His wife was Whitney. Winnie hated Whitney. & then .......... Whitney disappeared.

  • @leaw6835

    @leaw6835

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂 true

  • @serwombles8816
    @serwombles8816 Жыл бұрын

    Who is he? Was never introduced

  • @maanviss3840
    @maanviss3840 Жыл бұрын

    Freee Okinawa ...!! Freee Hawaii ...!! Free Apache.. Sioux .. etc. 💪✊

  • @jameswong4136
    @jameswong4136 Жыл бұрын

    Desmond you are still young and still a lot more to learn. I am in my late 70 and serve in the Malaysian government and live in many countries. I know what I am talking about. Let me give you a simple advice silent is golden. When you grow older you will see what I mean

  • @buddhahead27

    @buddhahead27

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you're not being very silent mr. James Wong why don't you speak up a little and give us some information. I lived in Malaysia for a year in 1990 and China in 94 and 2001 and boy was I ever glad to get out of China in 94. The day I was going to leave in 1994 They " arrested me" because I look white and I was staying in the Chinese dorm a few days. The government is extremely racist

  • @hananokuni2580

    @hananokuni2580

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@HaHa-fp1zxSilence is golden because you get to listen to what others are saying, thus making it easier to craft precise replies. As well, with silence you keep your enemies guessing. Knowing just when to speak up is key to making a strong impact with your words.

  • @dixztube

    @dixztube

    10 ай бұрын

    You’re probably super corrupt lol

  • @zacklambert4214
    @zacklambert4214 Жыл бұрын

    Im staring to sound like a broken record but if they didn't want you to see or know something, you wouldn't see it on your social media feed.

  • @TheLazyClips
    @TheLazyClips2 жыл бұрын

    700 square feet is 2!!! Midclass houses in the Netherlands...

  • @GeoScorpion
    @GeoScorpion Жыл бұрын

    @The Jordan Harbinger Show: (1) On teachers, go back to the satire, "Sunny and Cheerful Kong Yiji". You, Jordan, know enough Mandarin to get and understand the Lu Xun book from before CCP. (2) There is NO difference between the Emperical Dynasties and the CCP. None. Xi is "The last Emperor". He is the cliche of every end to every Chinese empire ... and the tend to end after 70 years.

  • @RodrigoPalma700
    @RodrigoPalma700 Жыл бұрын

    What this person says is very similar to what was happening in the USSR in terms of corruption, privilege etc. Like in the days of kings in old Europe Thanks for sharing.

  • @tessw9744
    @tessw9744 Жыл бұрын

    That filter is crazy! It's like a deepfake. 😂😂😂🤣

  • @hooker_spit_baby_tears
    @hooker_spit_baby_tears Жыл бұрын

    ...and that is why communism RULES.😢

  • @jackieclan815
    @jackieclan815 Жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie but that asian guy in the cover pic kinda looks like Elon Musk lol!!!

  • @thomasrogers9146
    @thomasrogers9146 Жыл бұрын

    he is in jail now

  • @vanwangye

    @vanwangye

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope he is still free. As I recently saw him several interviews in Taiwan. In Taiwan, he maintained in Asia he strictly travel only to Japan or Taiwan. He also very fussy the transit flight at which country and which airline to take.

  • @jddyea5527
    @jddyea5527 Жыл бұрын

    Don't you love it when the host cracks stupid jokes totally ruining the interview

  • @meenki347
    @meenki3472 жыл бұрын

    I could tell you similar stories in the US Army. Don't act so shocked about a developing country. Oh... No corruption in US government? Cool interview.

  • @KK-dg5rr

    @KK-dg5rr

    Жыл бұрын

    I think they meant in bigger or smaller scale and how obvious it was…not to say there’s completely no bribery…😅

  • @dixztube

    @dixztube

    10 ай бұрын

    Ya I think all these governments are just insanely corrupt and dysfunctional. Then they’ll get their poor and insane to fight a huge war and kill a bunch of citizens

  • @SR-mv2mf
    @SR-mv2mf9 ай бұрын

    Why is he talking about this now?, is this guy like suicidal or something ?

  • @j.s.3414
    @j.s.34142 жыл бұрын

    Stop titling these "Confronting..." He's interviewing. There's no confrontation. Quit the click-bait BS.

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't see the word "confronting" in the title here. Did it change? If so, I'm ok with it. -Jordan

  • @TheLazyClips

    @TheLazyClips

    2 жыл бұрын

    CCP Government shill activity alert!

  • @jokekelleey2071
    @jokekelleey20712 жыл бұрын

    He only needs a couple people to that he can trust and then he can get away with it nobody's going to know nobody's going to figure and figure it out the idea here is to get really rich I mean it seems like you already has a lot of money but maybe that's why it's got a lot of money because he's a really smart clever talented guy

  • @TheLazyClips

    @TheLazyClips

    2 жыл бұрын

    CCP Government shill activity alert!

  • @gmailkathy9942
    @gmailkathy9942 Жыл бұрын

    Desmond Shum became a billionaire during his 8+ years in China(Beijing) for the China airport project and investment opportunity in ping eye insurance, the No.1 insurance company in China. The reason his company got the airport project was because his ex-wife came from the inner cycle of Wen's wife, Wen was the then prime minister of China. In China, Desmond was widely criticized for his quick marriage to his 2 years elder wife, without any overlap in life before, without any common similarity in the background: education, finance, career, and lifestyle, and his immediate second marriage with his 16 years younger secretary after divorce. Through Desmond's ex-wife, he did reach some related high-level Chinese government officials, like an ex-Beijing major who can't avoid when taking the Bejing airport project. And a Beijing major, especially 10+ years ago when there is no formal social regulations or rules about government officials with business man/women, usually won't reject a private dinner invitation, if not feel honored, from relations from China's prime minister, the head of the Chinese government, the big boss😁. And current Chairman of China, Xi, and the First Lady, who was at that time reporting to Wen. Then Desmond sharply and confidently concluded Xi's character is a dynasty emperor (through 1 or 2 dinners?)😁. In China dynasty times, No one, except the empress, can share the same table with the emperor, even in most private situations. Desmond grew up in Hongkong, and according to himself, poor and struggling with his financial situation, even once went shattered in his early days. Hongkong is tinny, and mainland China is huge both in space and in population. It makes sense for him to assume the several high-level officials he met for the construction project in Beijing, may present the typical Chinese "high-level" governments. Construction-related departments in China, do have some common😁, and the biggest criminal high-level official, his ex-wife was closed with, does come from an area where alcohol(53 degrees, at least 40 degrees) is a local dinner habit, including women😁. Unfortunately, most Chinese, men and women, may not be physically qualified to drink alcohol with them, so most of us, don't become billionaires😂. Also about 3 dinners a day for 6 days a week, never heard through I was in Beijing in Desmond's China days. The majority of Chinese people, especially Beijing people used to have light every dinner due to health considerations. Traditional Chinese saying: eat breakfast well(nutritious), eat lunch full, eat dinner light(70%~80% full). Nowadays, for fitness, shape, health, and energy considerations, most working-class China, eat multiple light meals in the daytime and light dinner, mainly for social purposes. The traditional government official's private social rules, used to be: the higher level, the less for social fairness and power limitation purpose. Chinese traditional political culture believes in calm, rational, listening to everyone, independent thinking, effective communication, and practicing. The ability to solitude well, independently think, and community effectively and widely with "qualified" people, is the basic requirement for an independent, fair judge and decision-making. Obviously, Desmond's "high-level" officials are new generations, westernized well 😁

  • @jameswallace7494

    @jameswallace7494

    Жыл бұрын

    This sounds like propaganda from the ccp

  • @carats5
    @carats5 Жыл бұрын

    Is he not doing business in China any more? Why is he reviewing all this dirty thing about China official? Or is he just promoting his book?

  • @bestchoiceaccess9928
    @bestchoiceaccess99282 жыл бұрын

    Who is this guy?

  • @michaelkwon3722
    @michaelkwon37222 жыл бұрын

    He's DESCRIBING the USA

  • @TheGodfather101

    @TheGodfather101

    Жыл бұрын

    You a ccp wolf

  • @raykirkham5357
    @raykirkham5357 Жыл бұрын

    There's muckraking {like Upton Sinclair} and also bullshit raking (like this video).

  • @jokekelleey2071
    @jokekelleey20712 жыл бұрын

    Well everybody wants to make a story like keeping up with the Kardashians a pair of Hilton or something like that

  • @TheLazyClips

    @TheLazyClips

    2 жыл бұрын

    CCP Government shill activity alert! Third random weird negative comment trying to say this video is fake from the account 'Joke Kelleey'

  • @TheGodfather101

    @TheGodfather101

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a ccp wolf

  • @spankythemonkey9828
    @spankythemonkey98282 жыл бұрын

    Caste system? Sounds more like Indian.

  • @lavanya_sanatani

    @lavanya_sanatani

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah right🙄

  • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

    @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885

    Жыл бұрын

    Confucianism

  • @mj3.14
    @mj3.14 Жыл бұрын

    misleading.

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 Жыл бұрын

    That's why this guy is in America, where corruption is endemic.

  • @thomastan7511
    @thomastan7511 Жыл бұрын

    Bought by Taiwan intelligence services.

  • @ljzralph
    @ljzralph Жыл бұрын

    这个访谈提到的问题,表象上是中国目前体质和政权存在的问题,但是腐败和特权的根本是植根于人性、文化传统和发展阶段的。这并不是中国特有,也不会因为政权的迭代而消亡,这就如同我们看待民族自身的一部分,它并不美观健康,但我们要用心改善。当然,我们也看到了一些改善。 作为一个中国人,会无条件的爱国,并努力把国家建设的更好。因为祖祖辈辈都安葬在这片土地上,没有哪里比这里有更强的连接。 至于被采访的这位先生,他的书我并没有读过,作为市井小民也不了解其人,但也同情他的遭遇,不过他作为白手套,这种风险是肯定存在的。 无论财富和地位,也无论社会环境,关键还是要做难而正确的事情,在正道上前进。

  • @ericyeo805
    @ericyeo805 Жыл бұрын

    Jordan, you picked the wrong guy to interview, sorry. Or perhaps, you have picked the right who is a perfect choice for your agendas. Only you know your plans. When he said the salary of his parents as teachers in today's context is US$5 exposed his inner thoughts. I wonder how old was he then and when hehe family migrated. Why didn't you ask him, how much chairman Mao, his cabinet, government officials and the people salary were during the same time? This will give a clear understanding to viewers. You probably allowed this to passed deliberately and hoped it will sticks to increase the emotional charges. Wouldn't it be better to let the viewers to decide? FYI during his parents time, many ordinary Chinese are struggling to live. When comparing them to the 1.4 billion populations in China, they are the elites in that poor nation. Now, let us compare the government of USA, a nation of 300 millions demographic. Are they perfect? How many died and suffered by their handling of the Black and Hispanic people due to their political systems and supremacist behaviours. And, how many unwarranted innocents have died due to covid and guns controls policies? As you can see that even to govern 25% populations compared to China 1.4 billion is already a problem to the US government with their systems. How can you not expect China to face problems with 3 times more population than the US? And, the conditions that exist in both countries are completely opposite to another during the time when his parents were employed.. A very rich US and a very poor China with a demographic of 300 million against 1.4 billion. This man did not tell the complete truth of things he said. People act and behave differently within the acceptable frame in accordance with the conditions allowed. These actions will evolve as they progress relatively. From nothing to something and from everything to complacency to nothing. Isn't this what you witnessed on Jimmy Carter's speech on the one China policy that is being destroyed by Trump, Pompei, Pelosi, Mccarthy? These are signs of the closing to the end cycle. 😮

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro what

  • @bel62

    @bel62

    Жыл бұрын

    the Chinese are the worst race in the world, and everyone knows it, their slogans, to love the fatherland is to be hypocritical, not very credible with non-Chinese

  • @joylove8693
    @joylove8693 Жыл бұрын

    The Tank man photo was telling lying, the man wasn't killed by the Tank. I unsubscribed your channel because you have this man on your show to spread the fake information. Shame on this man

  • @jokekelleey2071
    @jokekelleey20712 жыл бұрын

    Wow this is fake this guy fake the whole story he's a writer that's what he does while he's a very smart guy and he's a great actor congratulations man you really had me going there your number one buddy I hope you write some more novels fiction novels

  • @TheLazyClips

    @TheLazyClips

    2 жыл бұрын

    CCP Government shill activity alert!

  • @germoua1471

    @germoua1471

    Жыл бұрын

    Wumano alert

  • @jadesx96

    @jadesx96

    Жыл бұрын

    punctuation who

  • @jokekelleey2071
    @jokekelleey20712 жыл бұрын

    This guy loves fiction novels the most and he's a writer and he's trying to write a fiction novel they make it seem real it's kind of like he's trying to get rich off a scandal

  • @TheGodfather101

    @TheGodfather101

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha CCP wolf alert.

  • @joelsloane2033
    @joelsloane20332 жыл бұрын

    This is all Big time BS...

  • @jayclips8684

    @jayclips8684

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which part?

  • @Peter-we7vv

    @Peter-we7vv

    2 жыл бұрын

    The truth is too absurd to handle? Let me tell you something, as a Chinese... I don't believe what he said is 100% factual. But the gist of it is quiet realistic.

  • @joelsloane2033

    @joelsloane2033

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Peter-we7vv "realistic gist" science fiction can also have "Truth to absurd to handle" not really , it is just the one sided, selective and biased fashion shown as "The truth" let me tell you something, as an American who is well aware of what's going on in my country I have quite enough to worry about whatever thing is pushing viciously to make China look as a world threat, I saw a previous video when this guy was interviewing John Perkins, and despite all the anti China narrative John said it is nothing different than what America does as a superpower, and that China is not even as close to match it so there is that, I'm not buying the narrative of "the new worldwide threat to freedom" posed by China and that is what I call BS..

  • @cynthiamagic2994

    @cynthiamagic2994

    2 жыл бұрын

    How do? I worked at a high level at a big bank in China, this is fully legit. Truth.

  • @JordanHarbingerShow

    @JordanHarbingerShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Any actual counterargument or are you just here to do nothing to add to the conversation whatsoever? lol

  • @rosskenneger5581
    @rosskenneger5581 Жыл бұрын

    Stay safe. Be brave. Be careful and come to us.

  • @kritzkraftz1
    @kritzkraftz1 Жыл бұрын

    They dont want to talk about it....of course... contro....contro!!!