Such an amazing band. The sound and feel of this album is almost unmatched IMO.

@rykehuss3435

2 ай бұрын

Almost unmatched? it for sure is unmatched. This is basically the perfect black metal album. Nothing else really touches this. Some come close, like Burzum's "Det som engang var", or Bathory's "Under the Sign of the Black Mark", or Darkthrones "Under a Funeral Moon", or Beherit's "Drawing Down the Moon" or Mayhem's "Deathcrush", you get the idea. However, depending on my mood each one of those sounds better than Storm of the Light's Bane. But that one just sounds better most of the time I could mention a dozen more bands like Armagedda, Batushka, Absurd, Peste Noire, Samael, Ildjarn, Arckanum, Mütiilation, Forest, Belketre, Vlad Tepes, Temnozor, Ulver, Mgla, Satanic Warmaster, many who I name dropped had longer and arguably better careers, but nobody managed to touch upon Dissection's two LP's. Bathory, Burzum and Darkthrone come close though.

Yeah this is Black Metal, absolute pioneers of the swedish school of BM. Very solid playing, not as amateurish as some of the other early black metal bands, much more focused on melody and composition rather than atmosphere, they are deffinitely not as abrasive as something like Burzum or early Emperor but it's still Black Metal, very much so!

@AndyGrouch

10 ай бұрын

I never considered Dissection to be pure BM band. It's more death metal to me. That's why I always wonder why it's so highly regarded in BM community. It's not bad, just not BM for me and I seem to be the only one who thinks this way.

@Terra101

10 ай бұрын

70% of every comment about Dissection is if it's death, black or melodic metal and what not. I'm so tired of it lol. @@AndyGrouch

@XBeamChannel

10 ай бұрын

​@@Terra101it's peak music is what it is genre don't matter 🤷

@massivemoon7495

7 ай бұрын

@@AndyGrouch This is black metal. Would say that IX Equilibrium of Emperor is not BM? Just because it has prog elements?

@Svartsejd

7 ай бұрын

@@massivemoon7495 This is actually death metal. Even the band has always called themselves a death metal band.

You should check out Nights Blood from the same album, fantastic dynamics and songwriting, with an incredible sense of musical story telling. Gives me the goosebumps everytime

On the topic of what Dissection's genre is, it is funny you mention they don't sound like black metal because there has been a long running debate on whether they are black metal or death metal. While Dissection are usually just called black metal or melodic black metal these days and certainly have had black metal influences (the band has cited various black metal bands), I don't really like this. When talking about Dissection and if they're black metal or not, it is important to know two things: They started out as a purely death metal band and they were basically part of the Gothenburg scene and for a time shared the same rehearsal space as the guys in At The Gates and Eucharist, and because of the size of the scene at the time almost certainly performed with a lot of these guys. And indeed as I mentioned, if you listen to their earliest material it is just straight up death metal, nary a trace of black metal, but many have also noticed that even on The Somberlain and Storm of the Light's Bane, which are supposedly black metal, they still have things such as more death metal-y rhythms and at times riffs (such as the main riff on Night's Blood). But it's also important to keep in mind this was common across the emerging styles of melodic death metal and melodic black metal in Sweden, many of the early melodic death metal bands have some black metal influence (a great example is Gates of Ishtar, but you notice even bands like Dark Tranqullity play around with things more characteristic of black metal, such as the distroted minor triads on Punish My Heaven) and many early melodic black metal bands have some kind of death metal influence as well (example being Dawn who are another of these 'melodic black metal' bands that began as a death metal band). These were all guys that came from roughly the same area, listening to the same music, and had a lot of the same ideas (such as the strong melodicisms inspired by 80s heavy metal). So I guess to answer the question on genre, I suppose one could say "melodic black metal" and it would be somewhat true, I think this undercuts the death metal elements that have always been present in Dissection, I personally usually call them melodic black/death metal and associate them more closely with Unanimated than I do other melodic black metal bands that have more of a straight black metal approach (such as Vinterland, Sorhin, early Sacramentum). On another note, while this is one of Dissection's most popular songs, I do hope if or when you return to them you check out some of their more ambition songs such as "Night's Blood", "The Somberlain", "Thorns of Crimson Death", "Black Horizons", etc.

@CriticalReactions

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent info and context against other melodic offshoots in more textural genres.

@supremelordoftheuniverse5449

2 жыл бұрын

@@CriticalReactions Definetely check out Nights Blood for something completely different

@blindguardian1979

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, great summary.....you're right that a lot of the Swedish bands in that era have a mix of death/black influence whether they are primarily described as melodic death or melodic black. Dissection have some songs that are almost all death like Son of the Morning which could fit on a Necrophobic's Nocturnal Silence album and others that fit in that group of bands that are almost always categorized as melodic black like Unanimated, Vinterland Sacramentum...either way, love the style of these bands of that era!

@Charlzhen

Жыл бұрын

A two hour long At The Gates doku here on KZread is worth the watch.... The Göteborg sound is a thing. Jon and Dissection was from Strömstad, about 2 hours from Göteborg, and 2 hours to Oslo in Norway aswell... They were labeled Blackend Death back when this came out

@dantredogborsa7048

3 ай бұрын

Even the first In Flames album has some black metal-lysh parts in it

Dan Swano really hit the mark with the production of this album!

@Brendo2386

Жыл бұрын

Lord Swanö

@tubelious

9 ай бұрын

Internet needs more Edge of Sanity reactions.

@shit_pant

7 ай бұрын

check out the interview with dan about recording this and somberlain if you've not!

@ultimatemetalguitartones

6 ай бұрын

link please? thanks @@shit_pant

Yeah this is still black metal, I'd consider it melodic black metal. Like I said on the WITTR video, black metal with cleaner production usually combines their sound with other genres.

@GajdaTomas

10 ай бұрын

Blackened death metal. Also Behemoth is marked as blackened death metal even they are using corpse paints. Also Cradle of Filth is not black metal. Dani called itself like blackened heavy metal ;-)

This has to be one of my fav reaction videos and i've watched a lot of 'em. The complete breakdown of my fav song from the time signatures, instrumentals and lyrics is just amazing. Well done my man well done!

When the double kicka first start at 1:40 - that is the most evil riff I've ever heard and I absolutely love it!

top-tier band. short run but what a ride. some of the best riffs in black metal history. someway some how do a video watching the live show on their official channel "Rebirth of Dissection." PERFECTION . Rest in Chaos Jon

@RoRo-vr6wx

2 жыл бұрын

Rest in Chaos huh Couldn't have Said it better

I love this album. One of my favorites of all time. Also, you're not wrong that this isn't quite black metal, even though it has a lot of similar elements. I tend to think of it as melodic black death metal, or at least black death metal.

@SixStringViolence

6 ай бұрын

In the 90s we called that "blackened death metal". Very similar is "Ancient God of Evil" from Unanimated, also produced by Dan Swanö.

@jeffnogo

6 ай бұрын

@@SixStringViolence Of course, that has always been another way of saying it. I was around in the 90s as well.

@goldengoat1737

3 ай бұрын

Uhhhh dude they literally invented the genre

@goldengoat1737

3 ай бұрын

Melodic black metal is a Wikipedia Term

As I said a few days back, there's so many styles of black metal these days. This album came out in 1995, so it has a strong influence to any later melodic black and blackened death metal. Also DAWN : "Slaughtersun" album, that came out in 1998 goes in the same category and is one of my all time fave's. If you are interested in some of the classics in the early/mid 90's influencers in black metal and classic albums, check out Arcturus : "Aspera Hiems Symfonia", Kvist : " For Kunsten Maa Vi Evig Vike", In The Woods.... : "HEart Of The Ages", and Fleurety : "Min Tid Skal Komme"

@nonserviam751

2 жыл бұрын

Kvist's 'For Kunsten maa vi evig vike' is certainly a work of top-tier music.

Well, there is a sub genre that you can call melodic black death metal. This is my favorite one, where you can put Dissection, Naglfar, Mork Gryning, Dawn and some other in. If I had to suggest you some of others I'd go with Naglfar - The Brimstone Gate (probably their slowest from this era, but such a gem), Dawn - Malediction Murder, Mork Gryning - Journey and another Dissection at least. I'd pick Thorns Of Crimson Death. Still not their most Black Metalish one, but a gem nonetheless.

@redwater23193

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, Dawn, an amazing band that so few people remember

@MightyPee

2 жыл бұрын

@@redwater23193 totally agree ! Slaughtersun was such a masterpiece.

@HateMich

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Necrophobic and Unanimated. Especially Necrophobic album "Hrimthursum" would be perfect for this "clean black metal" week.

@nebojsarodic1720

2 жыл бұрын

Agree on Thorns of Crimson Death, their best song in my opinion, one of my favourite songs in all of music even.

@CriticalReactions

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to give more from this genre a listen. The melodic components might be that crutch I need.

If I recall back in the day they called themselves death metal. I imagine that was in part just who they were playing with/hanging with. I saw them live with 2 death metal bands. But I've always seen it as black metal... thematically black... guitar vocal drum style... mostly black... vocal the sound was unique from everything else. The vocals are very unique because you can hear the nuance and make out the words as if they were being spoken. Dark Funeral's EP had the same sound/tone. Same studio I believe. It's what I thought of as the Swedish black metal sound at the time.

On the talk of Dissection's genre: I noticed once that if you detune their music by an octave, it's pretty clearly death metal, and doesn't seem out of place next to other Swedish death metal of the time, which was all tuned to B. What does it end up being when it's tuned to E standard though? Dunno.

ah good old dissection, this album is widely regarded as a classic and has a soft spot for me as this particular album was my gateway into heavier metal (i picked it out at a cousin's place for the art and a unique paper case and then the music hooked me in) anyways if you want black metal projects that have a bit clearer production i'd look more into the progressive/avant-garde side of the genre, so something like cobalt - 'hunt the buffalo', schammasch - 'split my tongue' for a more straightforward track or 'contradiction' if you're feeling more adventurous, kaleikr - 'beheld at sunrise'

@supremelordoftheuniverse5449

2 жыл бұрын

It's the best album ever, and Nights Blood is the best song ever

i would absolutely call this black metal even though it has death metal influences but this song is a little different of what dissection use to do since this is what you would call a "balad" by black metal standards and most of their songs are much faster the man behind the project is Jon Nödtveidt, he was convicted of aiding and abetting murder, he and a friend murdered a homosexual man who tried to hit on him and his friend (as far as i know) he killed himself in 2006 in a satanic ritual and died at the age of 31

@HateMich

2 жыл бұрын

Jon was as talented musician as he was crazy.

@bertil3887

2 жыл бұрын

@@HateMich he wasn't crazy, he got involved with the wrong people There is a great interview here on KZread with Orvar Säfström were he talks about his view on the death metal scene, black metal scene and Jon as well

@HateMich

2 жыл бұрын

@@bertil3887 surely he was involved with the wrong people, but due to what he has done or what was his thought, i wouldn't define him as normal.

@MaaZeus

2 жыл бұрын

A sad case overall...

@bertil3887

2 жыл бұрын

@@HateMich i understand what you mean but i dont think its that simple what he did was wrong and i def distance myself from that but at the same time i dont wanna judge him for it, the murder happened (as far as i understand) by a combination of his religious views, a homosexual man who didn't back off when he was told to do that and ofc their homophobic views i just think its sad that it happened and that he later choose to end his life at such an early age and leave his family and friends behind but it might be more than just his religion behind his suicide (like a depression) i talked to a friend of johnny hedlund who told me that Nödtveidt seemed depressed his last time in life

Hello there! AFAIK Dissection has always been considered a blackened death metal band but differs a lot with another BDM ones, it's that "unpackaging" of the melodies you were talking about IHMO. It's the first video I watch on your channel and totally enjoyed it. Never saw a so in-depth metal music analysis; For sure I'll come back for more. Sorry about my poor english and thanks for the video, man.

If iron maiden were a black metal band, that's what they would sound like. And I always liked the way drums sounded on this album, that reverb on them. The toms especially, sound like they were recorded in a deep cave (and it fits the music really well, to be honest the whole album has that reverb sound to it; drums, vocals, the acoustic passages. I love it!).

@naturalianoss

5 ай бұрын

I listened a podcast with Dan Swano and he was talking about producing this album. Jon wanted the drums to dound like the drums on DMDS from Mayhem

@PortugueseMACPOW

3 ай бұрын

Dissection sounds more like Mercyful Fate/King Diamond than Maiden

That`s how you start a reaction to Dissection, with a WOW, songwriting wise they are still the best in extreme music by FAR!

Haven’t listened to this album, but really enjoyed this song! I really enjoyed the melody throughout. The entire song had a storytelling feel to it. I felt I was on a journey. As I’m learning more about BM, it’s interesting how different regions have their own style. This compared to Norwegian, Canadian, Italian, US, Polish is interesting. Curious of the history and influences on each region and how it connects to BM.

@CriticalReactions

2 жыл бұрын

That's something that I've kinda seen on my periphery but never really thought about how important it is until now, reading your comment. Regions having their own take on it will certainly make different BM songs feel different. Black Metal is wild with just how malleable it is.

I remember listening to this album in 03’ and being instantly hooked to this album but also to black metal

for me, black metal is a feeling. yes i concider this black metal but its everyone on their own...

Back in the day, the Swedish Death Metal scene and the Norwegian Black Metal scene hated each other. Then along comes Dissection, blending the two genres and attracting fans from both sides. Win-win. I like to call them Melodic Blackened Death Metal. All those elements are found in their first two albums. Their third and final album came out much later, after the vocalist got released from jail (yet another BM musician turned murderer) and that one's just Melodic Death Metal. As for the lyrics and the death of the angel being somewhat "tame", IMO this is what differentiates Black from Death. DM is pretty blunt when it comes to describing gruesome deaths (though it can often be read as dark humor) whereas in BM death (no matter the circumstances) is often taken more seriously, viewed as an inevitable fate that will crush you under its weight. Just look at song titles like "Hammer Smashed Face" (Death Metal) and "Buried by Time and Dust" (Black Metal). When you try to picture these, the former may merely make you raise an eyebrow while the latter may give you goosebumps. Like the difference between a gore flick and a haunted house movie.

Hey! A swede here. Loved Dissection since I was a kid, what a wonderful throwback to see this here. I have a suggestion for an album to review while you're going through high production black metal. Vanitas, by Anaal Nathrakh, a longtime favorite of mine. The band has changed somewhat over the years but always stuck to their core sound. If a single song sounds more pallatable, I recommend "Forging Towards The Sunset". I don't know if they are simply "Black metal" however. A sidenote. They dont usually post their lyrics, the lyrics you find online are written by fans who spent alot of time trying to piece the words out. Enjoy.

I think it is the angel that is quoted as being tempted by the darkness. Both the forces of light and darkness being tempted by one another bit with darkness consuming the light in the end.

I AM SO PUMPED FOR THIS VIDEO! Dissection is my favorite band of all time.

One of the best metal songs ever! R.i.C. Jon

This album is amazing, it shifts from Black metal to classic Death metal stylings, the track Night's Blood is pretty much traditional death metal but doesn't feel out of place next the more Black metal trappings. Highly recommended listen.

This song is a ballad and a bit commercial but Dissection wonn the songcontest in Kungshamn in Sweden 1993

One can clearly hear the difference between Death Metal and Black Metal only by fixing upon the rhythm. Black Metal tends to be slightly slower and very monotonous, although the base techniques are the same. For example : Death and Black Metal both use tremolo picking and blast beats in sixteenth, but the tempo often exceeds 200bpm in Death Metal, not in Black Metal. In consequence, Death Metal drummers don't do blast beats for too long, and often switch to skank beats or double bass beats, while Black Metal drummers tend to keep doing the same beats with little variations. From that point of view, Dissection are generally closer to Death Metal, except for some songs, such as Black Horizons, Unhallowed, Soulreaper, and some parts here and there (The Somberlain's "lord of infernal" part, for example). However, Where Dead Angels Lie doesn't fit any category. It's a ballad (if that term still makes sense in Extreme Metal).

I'd call it Blackened Swedish Melodic Death Metal...:-) "Storm of the Light's Bane" is one of my very few all time favorite albums for sure.

You should check out Batushka the Yekteniya album if you want hear some clean production in Black Metal. Any track of that album really.

Definitely one of my top 5 metal albums, like Emperor these guys were in a place all their own.

Black Metal is all about atmosphere, good black metal songs have a cold, melancholic or warlike atmosphere.

You need to react to dissection thorns of crimson death or the somberlain live in wacken

This song is sort of the most normal, traditional "song"-like song (also with a strong folk-influence) on the album Storm of the Light's Bane, which on the whole is very listenable. One could say this would be the "single" of the album, but there isn't really a filler on the album, it's a really strong metal performance.

5:53 I so with the harmonised melody was played for longer instead of just once

Bryan you are the best, haven't seen such a mindful and interested host and reviewer

@CriticalReactions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

Going to enjoy this. You gotta check out IN FLAMES - Wayfaerer, or Children of Bodom - Silent Night, Bodom Night. Same era and the roots of Melodic Death Metal. In 1998 I went to a concert to see Dimmu Borgir, Dissection, In Flames and Cradle Of Filth. Besides Cradle Of Filth (cant deal with the vocals) it was one of the best concerts I ever went to.

The masterpiece of Melodic Black, I fuckin love this band and all the clones of them so much

To me, Dissection is a classic example of mixed genre music usually known as blackened death metal. Very blackened but still melodic death metal.

@hades9025

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fucking not. On no planet was Dissection ever a blackened death metal band. People who think Dissection is closer to death metal need to clean their ears, just because the guitar tone doesn't sound like a cat dragged on asphalt doesn't make it death metal. Especially this album, clearly black metal, just listen to Unhallowed or Soulreaper.

@tyranthate

Жыл бұрын

@@hades9025 dissection is NOT!!!!! a black metal band, have some elements from black metal but it is more closer to a death metal band, clean your ears dude, you want pure an total black metal?, listen to under a funeral moon(darkthrone), det som engang var(bruzum), Pure holocaust(immortal), or even the return(bathory), there is no way dissection could be a BM band, they were awsome of course, but their are not black metal.

@hades9025

Жыл бұрын

@@tyranthate You clearly don't understand black metal, it's more than just a "sound" 95-97 era Dissection always was, and always will be black metal.

@Charlzhen

Жыл бұрын

@@hades9025 Jon himself said "We play dark, death metal...."

@hades9025

Жыл бұрын

@@Charlzhen If a country singer was playing country music but he called it death metal, would it be death metal?

I've recommended this on mgła album analysis, but my recommendation is perfect for Hi-fi black metal, Altar of Plagues - All Life Converges to Some Center

your headset suits perfectly for the art cover

When this came out it was considered Blackend Death. They were even featured on the compilation album ".... Death is just the beginning III" with the song Nights Blood. Even thou Jon was MLO in his beliefs, the music was never looked upon as Black Metal back in the day.

Production-wise I think that everything is connected by a huge amount of reverb. Without doubt this album is in the top5 black metal albums ever

Yay! This is from the album I recommended a few days back, Storm of the Light's Bane! I LOVE this album, and like I explained, it carries a lot of the regional like mindedness of Gothenburg's melodic ideas! EDIT: Not a fan of people trying to fit this album, and many other black metal, into a weirdly specific subgenre. This is black metal through and through, with this album often cited as the best of the best the genre has to offer. Like I mentioned in the Mgla video, the genre is very varied when you explore it more and see that artists in the genre just love to do lots of different things! If I had to define BM: it is extreme metal, i.e. has evolved from thrash and other genres of metal to a more extreme sound, but focuses on atmosphere and feeling, specifically focusing on the theme of EVIL or depression or something very negative. Clasically this has been accomplished via the fuzz and wall of sound, but then people started doing it in many different ways as well. Like with other genres, it is hard to clearly define it and it doesn't really matter. What matters though is that culturally people consider lota of things BM and that is that. This album of course included. My advice: keep listening to the genre and form your own picture of what the genre is.

@tjgamer9713

Жыл бұрын

can you understand why people would call this melodic black metal though, considering it has more melodic guitar parts and harmonies that deviate frequently from the traditional black metal sound

one of the best albums ever made- true kosmik kaos RIP Jon

You did a great job of picking apart this classic Black Metal band 👌 Legendary Band🤘

Majestic song Jon Nödtveidt was a visionary composer and he had charisma on stage. May he rest in peace south of heaven 🔥

The key to why so many genres can become "blackened" is because the culture at the time and place that black metal was created is what influenced the music, rather than the other way around. The tone, and by tone I mean the non-music version of the word, is probably the most important thing. Lots of treble and little bass create a cold atmosphere to the song, and when instruments like guitar have a high treble they cold thru the wall of sound that black metal likes to create like a gust of wind from a blizzard. Lyrical themes are also really important and the use of the shrieking vocals as another way to set tone/mood along with the pain and anguish you can hear in them all lend themselves to the feeling you get when you listen to black metal. That's why I think you can apply the principles of black metal to so many other things.

Legendary song! Legendary band!

Some other bands/songs of that era that have a similar style as Dissection you should take a listen to Sacramentum - When Night Surrounds me Unanimated - Life Demise (they also have some new albums out that are quite good) Vinterland - A castle So Crystal Clear Necrophobic - The Nocturnal Silence (more death metal but definitely a lot of black metal elements)

@Hell-Awaits

Жыл бұрын

Necrophobic's debut it's definitely death metal, as all their work pre-debut (the two demos and the 7"ep). Later, they shifted to black metal.

That album is a masterpiece.

@Critical Reactions & All; Must see => Jon Nödtveidt (Pre-Dissection) - I Got Dreams ... & Jon's other songs & covers (Whitesnake, Motley Crue etc) are great too! Love that he never denied his earlier influences & kept things pretty true until he got all messed up! Music was still great & he waa so wrong thinking he was done. He had so much more to offer! Still love that dumbass though~

Watching your reactions and this is just one of my favoritebands and songs! What could Jon have done if he didn't "go to transylvania" Just a fucked up but briliant musical mind....

If i recall... They said the played the "metal of death" not black metal.

You should do old man's child anything besides born of the flickering production wise. Arcturus,Borknager, Thorns, Satyricon just a few examples.

The drums... the drums

See, and this ties up with what was being said yesterday about the defining elements of fuzz being somewhat integral to the sound, I can see why this can throw the definition up for a loop, and to give you further credence, they actually kinda pushed back against the label. But bear in mind, this song is as close to a black metal "single" as they come. There's absolutely no written rule that black metal has to include blast beats, fuzz, and tremolo picking, those were usually the distinctive sounds of the norwegian bands The greek bands that were coming up at roughly the same time were definitely slower and moodier in pace, and Samael were for the most part, groovy as fuck. Had you been made to react to them, odds would be, you'd headbang on camera. Those are the rules. They'd also fit perfectly on this weeks theme, I'd say. Ceremony of Opposites is very cleanly produced. So yeah, this is a lot catchier and "song format-y" than most anything that was thrown your way so far, but it still bears the same mood. I always found this album to be exceedingly *cold* in sound, and that's certainly a black metal mood. And it has to be said, the rest of the album is just as melodic, but goes at a much more frantic speed. As for the personal touch they include, swedish melodic death metal (which later becomes melodeath) was also beginning to burgeon at this time, and there are definite paralels in the sound.

I been listening to this album since 1995 timeless

You can also react to the Somberlain. This is their most iconic song in my opinion. ( Jon Nodveidt was only 17 at the time ! ) And, then, could you react to Batushka ? Yekteniya 1 or 3, maybe ? ps : also, sorry for my bad english, i'm french !

you should check watain, especially their song named waters of ain but live version

Great album from my youth I was about 19 when i heard it for the 1st time.

This melodic black metal. Check out Maha Kali from their Reinkaos album it’s the album after this one. It’s quite different but yet still so good and a great production as well.

@hnorrstrom

2 жыл бұрын

Reinkaos is their best album. Very underrated.

The producer is known to be one one of the best Metal Producers in the Biz

Ah, a true classic of Melodic Black Metal

The album from which this track belongs was positively seminal for the development of melodic black metal which has produced a great volume of music I greatly enjoy. Thus I am forced to reluctantly acknowledge the widely held opinion that this album is one of metal's greatest, even though I myself am not a fan.

for really good composed black metal u can check out Aquilus - Nihil from the album griseus, the composition is really well made and kinda progressive, pretty cool stuff

I recommend Taake - Hordalands Doedskvad II

This is one of my favorite Black Metal song of all time.

I think you should analise "thorns of crimson death" song from them (dissection) for me thats their most melodic music, maybe you like it... 😁

Night’s Blood by Dissection is so good

My part of my first wedding dance.

You have to listen their first two albums ! Humankind needs another one hundred years to comprehend the genius of Dissection that goes beyond genre

I love Dissection 🤘🏻🔥

The muted alternate picking paired with blast beats = black metal. Just because it’s not horrendously underproduced and has a melody doesn’t mean it’s not black metal. Plus, Jon (the lead singer) is one of the most hardcore Satanic metal dudes ever.

There's still some fuzz on guitars! Maybe your headphones are too good that can't capture that :)) I've listened to this album to death. Dissection is a legendary band that pioneered Melodic Black Metal. Read the history of Jon Nödtveidt too, it's very interesting!

This whole album is awesome! My favorite song from it would be Thorns of Crimson Death!

Melodic Black Metal. They were pioneers.

Check out Watain - Waters of Ain, or Emperor - Curse You All Men...

Anyone else ever noticed that this sounds very similar to Mayhem's "From The Dark Past" at the start?

God DAMN, Dissection are so fucking good.

Never realised how close they were to early (pre Still Life) Opeth. Guess the latter took inspiration from the former if any(?)

@redwater23193

2 жыл бұрын

Considering how much popular and relevant this album has been and still is even today in the Extreme Metal it's very plausible I'd say

@thegrimner

2 жыл бұрын

they were from the same musical scene, and they even shared the same producer. Dan Swanö produced both bands first couple of albums. Which actually makes Bryan be right on the money when detecting classic rock sensibilities in the way it is produced. Swano would make for an exosition of his own, btw. One of the chief individuals responsible for the prog and extreme metal merger, and an incredibly active composer and producer in his own right. Posting on discord his list of bands as per Metal Archives.

@ckokomo808

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely can hear similarities, especially in Opeth’s Orchids. I don’t have the musical language for similarities, but can definitely can hear similarities in the notes and scales they choose. Both share the same 6/8 swing. The “folky” aspects also seem to shine through, although in slightly different ways. Nice observation!

@progperljungman8218

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegrimner Yeah, that might be it. The Swanö factor 😊

@progperljungman8218

2 жыл бұрын

@@ckokomo808 Exactly. And also the variation between the brutal and mellow melancholy.

Would love to like and subscribe but I don't know how. If only there was a guide telling me where exactly to put my mouse and how to click.

What you people should remember is that in the first place black metal is NOT about the esthetic style but about the ideology and the message, black metal IS Satanic. If it's not Satanic themed then it's not black metal (like Immortal for instance), period! In this sense Dissection is PURE Black Metal.

If u loved this then u should listen to black horizons from Dissection it would be the perfect song to react to especially if ur a composer coz the song has different transitions n brilliantly composed not really as simple as dead angles lie but actually there's a lot more to it... there's acoustic stuff too n it is so melodic probably one of the best melodic bm stuff available its also really underrated not just an underrated Dissection song but bm in general I think it's one of the best bm songs ever made n to me Dissections best song!!! Please try it u will enjoy n be impressed for sure Love ur channel keep it up!!!

@RoRo-vr6wx

2 жыл бұрын

@Oliver Seiring exactly 💯

For me this is definitely black metal. In my mind black metal can sound like a mixture of many genres, but the satanic subject matter of the lyrics and attitude of the band is what defines a black metal band. IMO this is one of the most iconic black metal songs of all time and this album is in my top 10. Great analysis, really enjoyed the video.

Yup, this is Black Metal and pioneers for the more melodic black metal genres. Sometimes it is debated of they are really a BM band, arguing they belong more into the gothenburg Melodeath scene and I get it why. But ultimately people categorize them as Black Metal because of the sound, feel and looks. The song Somberlain from the previous album would have probably been a better more "black metallish" example but either way, this song and album rocks. 🤘

Hoping you'll do some Negură Bunget this week then. Cunoașterea Tăcută for instance.

This is an impossible question to answer, as you're asking is an ideology - black metal - also one identifiable sound. If anyone can find an ancient print extreme metal magazine called "Terrorizer", around the time of 'Storm of the..' Jon in an interview simply describes them as death metal, he also mentioned Euronymus liked their demo before 'The Sombrelain' but wouldn't sign them as he only signed black metal bands. Case closed. But ideologically - as said Euro once in a fanzine - all Satanic metal is black metal, from Mercyful Fate to Blasphemy, the musical metal substyle is irrelevant, if it's Satanic then it's black metal. Black metal is Satanic ideology, so in that respect Dissection is automatically a BM band. But musically the man himself referred to his music as death metal, he purposefully wrote death metal.

I think lyrically this would be very easy to interpret from something like a Freudian perspective, like an exertion of power of the ego, with some sexual element... Obviously fundamentally it is very primitive, but usually "juvenile" is one of the best things one could say from a psychological perspective. I’m not into psychology at all, but when I think an explanation makes sense, I might use it.

There is something undeniably special about this song chills every time may Satan bless and keep you Jon 🤘😈🤘

Dissection started out as Death metal/Melodic Death metal band and then when Black Metal exploded in the early 90's they sort of adapted to that by drawing in elements of Black metal while phasing out som death metal ingredients. I think that this style would qualify as Melodic Black/Death Metal or typical Swedish Black metal. This phenomen was popular for swedish bands in the 90's. From the top of my head I remember just a few of those, very good, bands: Dawn, Eucharist and of course the first couple of albums by In Flames and Dark Tranquility are melodic black/death metal

@kqh123

2 жыл бұрын

The first couple of albums by IF and DT are not melodic/black, just melodic. I mean their early stuff is quintessential MDM

@michaelkarlsson5966

2 жыл бұрын

@@kqh123 it's debateable. The differences between melodic black and melodic death are artificial. Essentially it's the same.

@kqh123

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelkarlsson5966 yeah, I don't really even understand what melodic-black is tbh. Like I don't really understand why it's a separate genre. I know what BM is and I know what mdm is, and to me early IF and DT didn't include any elements of BM, musically, lyrically, or aesthetically.

So this is a concept that is more controversial than it should be. Black metal is not as much of a style of music as it is a spirit, an energy, an experience. So bands can sound drastically different, and still be Black metal. Aghast and Storm and Dissection and Falkenbach, and Windir, and Shining...all arguably Black metal. Take it a step further and Euronymous says its even Diamanda Galas. A lot of people don't get this. Most also don't get Black metal, in my opinion. As someone that's a total nerd and been listening to it for near 3 decades.

Next should be Night's Blood or Somberlain

Yeah it's black metal. First, the production is better than average black metal but it's still black metal production, you can hear it mostly in the guitars and the vocals in the verse. Also, even if the song didn't have a black metal production, i would still call the vocal tone and the guitar riffs of the first verse black metal. Enslaved is a great example of this in their newer albums, great production but still black metal. But yeah, production is a big part of black metal so it's not surprising that some of the picks this week "don't feel like black metal"

Try Macabre Omen - Sound of 300 voices

melodic death metal with significant black metal influences

One of the best bands ever.

But ultimately it has elements of folk,black metal ,death metal, power metal, and melodic death metal so ot was definitely progressive for its time