Hes very articulate and something in his voice is so soothing. I had an outbreak/crying spell just now and searched and found this video.

Frank Ochberg should be on the road giving presentations and training to the nation's police forces. This talk is much overdue. So many in my area have been looking for this awareness, for so long. Police burnout has now become a national problem because police are in denial of it's existence. There also needs to be mental health screening as some personalities and disorders drawn to law enforcement are incapable of empathy. Great talk.

@Medietos

4 жыл бұрын

Arslonga vitabrevis: And with increasing microwave damage, police aren't likely to be nicer/better with the amount of hazardous special blue light they are made to use. As I mentioned it to a policeman , for him to heed and warn his mates, he agreed "Yes, I am quitting" (the profession). Sad. Good police are needed

@learnhow2learn87

2 жыл бұрын

I highly agree!

I feel with the current state of the last 2 years with this pandemic my compassion is definitely become fatigued. It's been rough lol. ☹ Thank you for this video. I think this is so applicable for today. 💜

True , all the respect for the police officers, firefighters, doctors... Really big RESPECT and thank you for the sounding videos you make ! Glad to just find you !!!

thanks ....most helpful. Explains a lot

Really insightful

his voice is very soothing

Excuse the ridiculously long comment - however if we had a culture that emphasized human regard over individual career and identity we would not have these problems. This is the result of a culture that emphasizes a marketplace fantasy of the supreme "individual" and places emphasis on disconnection from each other. It then employs a minority of professionals whose job it is to care for everyone with trauma or problems -- and the culture as it stands produces trauma and problems on autopilot at this point. We cannot expect to shift caring for society onto the backs of a few people. These people, who may or may not be talented at this, are supposed to fill this "role" in our market-based society. Our culture actually fights against the positive aspect of human nature, which is to feel connected to each other. It shames people who place human togetherness as a priority over individual self-aggrandizement. Dumping the spiritual, emotional, and psychological needs of everyone on an abstracted, compartmentalized professional field is a fantasy that will never work. A healthy culture would have a value system incorporated into it which includes human regard. But we pay someone to regard us because everyone is scurrying to and from their job in fear of not paying their bills. And from my own experience with therapists and knowing two as friends -- the field of psychology, while it is also useful (not a panacea) -- is nevertheless rife with so-called professionals who very much look and sound the part, and who misunderstand or are dishonest about what motivated them to enter the field. Many therapists do not want to admit they are at least in part using their client relationships to fill their own needs to maintain social status or achieve cultural standards. They are often enamored of the feeling of their client respecting them. This is clearly visible to any intelligent client. I have sat through therapy sessions with the knowledge I was paying to make my therapist feel wanted and important -- something that in this field amounts to the emotional and economic exploitation of a client. And this behavior is common in the field. The problem is cultural conditioning. Therapists take this too lightly because they are going through the same process of getting degrees, and pursuing their career. But actual wisdom is only found through extricating yourself from social status and career, and asking yourself truly hard questions about your own values and motivations -- and then most importantly, changing yourself to behave in alignment with true values. This takes effort and courage. It has little to do with craving to share someone else's pain -- which also happens in therapy. It makes an intelligent client's skin crawl, to be frank. If you build your ego around your idea of being "compassionate" without examining your motivations you are deluding yourself and harming your clients.

@Star17venus

6 жыл бұрын

Bad Air Day New York I am completely floored and grateful for just stumbling across your comment. I think it is something that once on a personal PC or laptop, I will copy and keep down for reference. A reminder of addressing the societal cause of of secondary PTSD or caregiving burnout. Thank you.

@badairdaynewyork5859

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, thanks for your comment.

@Medietos

4 жыл бұрын

Bad Air Day New York: What a relieving comment, you sound as though you might be familiar with Sue Gerhardt's books on the infant's need for love and how it was replaced by egoism and superficial materialism instead. I wish therapists would talk like you write, and that the ones like you should be therapists. I have often wanted to become one to do it right, - only I won't get therapy myself then... I also wish Dr's and other professional helpers would have said sth about this. In my 37 years´(!) search for healing, i have become increasingly tired and now severely burnt out by many instances of abuse and cruelty beyond belief. And have accordingly become more negative from the endocrine, nutritional, biochemical, metabolic-digestive, mental-psychical-spiritual changes, more tense, scared, apprehensive and realistically paranoid. The fatigue makes one somewhat compulsive, for the organism to make up for the foggy, fragmented chaos of burnout depression and isolation/ outsiderdom which is unsettling since functions like digestion/absorption and sleep are basic needs frightening to not get met.If my accelerating medical crisis and psycho-social disaster was taxing to them, I could have been calmer and more casual if they had only communicated their side to me, so that I was able to orientate. Only 1 Dr did not have prestige to protect and to hide behind her role so much. I think the only soulution is for each unhappy, discontent one of us ton decide to become the change we want to see in the world. To do as Jordan Peterson and others wisely explain: meet and integrate or shadow and true self. Only then can we grow up into integrity. When we aren't compulsively, handicappedly good, meek, harmless, but are free to choose when to be how. Someone whole/ healed with healthy boundaries don't get invaded, exhausted, burnt out. They radiate psychoneuro-immunity, wholeness, strength in ways that deter others from straining, abusing, exploiting , dumping feelings. It instills respect and makes the client's best sides appear. In good communication.

@ChristIsK1ng

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Just wow!

@Badboyifier

3 жыл бұрын

"But actual wisdom is only found through extricating yourself from social status and career, and asking yourself truly hard questions about your own values and motivations" In other words the solution is to opt out of society, go and live in a cave and meditate all day until your subconscious will get it and get the reassurance about the value of what it once valued Is there any other way?

I suffer P.T.S.D. and as I work in the Mental Health sector, I myself have had to deal with Vicarious P.T.S.D.

@Medietos

4 жыл бұрын

don't MHPro's get coaching to cope? And don't you get trauma therapy before starting the job? Must be impossible top give patients sth good when traúmatized yourself. That would explain much of the shut-off caregivers and cold, uninterested, even callous and mean ones. If at least they could tell the patients, who assume things are OK with the staff, they could be much more self-controlled, grounded or present, casual. Much agitation comes from uncertainty what the rules are, what help to expect and not to, how the staff work/function. What they want to help with.

@shutterswan

3 жыл бұрын

not always, MH support is notoriously under-funded. In an ideal world yes there is coaching or support for staff. A lot of staff work very long hours so even if they had the capacity to access their own therapy they may not find the time in their week. People do want to hold the experience of others and be there for them but they are not always as prepared for when people share their traumatic experiences. They might be focused say on helping them with daily tasks... A good guide for anyone to soften the potential impact when sharing their trauma with others might be to say "do you mind if I share something with you? You might find it confronting or it has to do with (x, y, z)" then the person working with them has time to say "i'd rather not discuss that now" or "yes that would not upset me go ahead" or at least to mentally prepare for the difficult nature of what someone will share. I'm saying this as someone with a history of trauma and also as a MH practitioner

@BlackWidowBites666

3 жыл бұрын

@@shutterswan The Government doesn't put enough funding into Mental Health, hence the major Mental Health Issues we have in NZ. I have been a witness to people in authority that have had breakdowns due to being over loaded with in coming clients. Our suicide rate is ridiculous high for such a small Country. The lack of help for those in need appears to be greatest in small country towns where there just isn't enough trained staff to cope in the influx of new client seeking help. Our Government needs to step up and put more funding into Mental Health.

Thank you.

I dont know if anyone or the author will see this but I have S PTSD from the trauma my partner. who has C PTSD DID and undiagnosed but definitely recognized by me as Ive suffered through so much trauma by him and my studies in psychology hes got narcissistic personality disorder....I cant find anyone to help me on the Northshore of MA. If anyone has resources please reach out. There are toomany like me..left pennilesd .unable ti leave..having been thru every type of abuse imaginable..

You need to seek some help. It sounds like a lot to try to figure out and to bear. You don't have to bear it alone. Good luck

Wow! Caregiver PTSD. Do you know what we as 1sh hand caregivers have to go through? I have compassion. BUT this is way more...

what do i do?

@Mindsetolympics

2 жыл бұрын

Right!!!

To suggest that listening to the tales of horror by those who experienced genuine trauma can produce something similar in the listener is the most self-serving, abject bunch of BS I can think of. Yes, it can be very disturbing to discover the terrible things people can do to each other, and hearing about the painful things that a dangerous, indifferent world can inflict upon people. This is especially true when a person has a naive, PollyAnna-ish view of life. It can cause disappointment, disillusionment, despondency, and difficulty in maintaining the strength to keep going, i.e. burnout. However, as a psychiatrist who has treated combat veterans with PTSD, I find it disgraceful to even suggest that you can acquire the symptoms they describe without having suffered what they have suffered.

@cariad123

7 жыл бұрын

Bruce Goldberg Its in the diagnostic criteria.

@zodiace1

7 жыл бұрын

There is all kinds of nonsense in the DSM. "Secondary" PTSD is utter BS.

@craigjohnston1038

7 жыл бұрын

Bruce Goldberg..

@carolgage4569

6 жыл бұрын

Bruce Goldberg: There should probably two different terminologies for the two different varieties. While caregiver burnout is very real, you're right, it's not exactly the same.

@Medietos

4 жыл бұрын

@@zodiace1 Thanks. Is Aspergers also nonsense? And why do doctors hurt one , withhold info and co-work , whipping up the Adrenals and souls into unnecessary worse anxiety etc? And why do they keep promising therapy but never give real one, and not examine one properly, as to why one is sleepless etc? They can't all be psychopaths, narcissists, sadists? Or can they? Don't they get therapy before working with clients? How can I as a patient behave to get good, proper treatment and finally start living, please? I'd be grateful for a reply- .