My choice is T129 AH made by Turkey🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷.. Love from Philippines🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

@DizzyDad

Жыл бұрын

That's American design for ya. 3 out of 5 of the fastest helicopters in the world are US, specifically marine.

@ismailmertcileci4199

Жыл бұрын

@@DizzyDad Nah, its an Italian design but modified and enhanced by TUSAŞ.

@andonxhumba5028

Жыл бұрын

It is 90% Agusta

@neapolitanpatriot736

Жыл бұрын

Aw 129 agusta westland made in italy The turkish version under licenze of italian Agusta westland

@flax1955

Жыл бұрын

@@neapolitanpatriot736 esatto.

Most valuable detail is, T129 is being tested in very harsh combat conditions almost every day, Tiger is just a zoo animal :)

@ahmetaydin2590

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@lazoly92

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@Jamirio

Жыл бұрын

Tiger is combat proven, used in many conflicts such as the Sahel, Afghanistan and Libya, Atak is a new helicopter still in development process

@ismailmertcileci4199

Жыл бұрын

@@Jamirio atak is just a light helicopter, we only use them for anti-terrorist operations, they'd be not really enough agile for a large scale combat. However, the Atak-2 will be more advanced and more agile. And probably will be a rival for the Apache Longbow.

@aptalyoutube.

Жыл бұрын

@@ahmetaydin2590 mal

Turkish weapons are now establishing themselves more than any other in the world. Therefore I would prefer the T129 to all others.

@omererten4399

Жыл бұрын

T129 advanced version is being made this year

@mrs.verenae.30

Жыл бұрын

Wise desicion, for sure.

@jorgepeters7474

Жыл бұрын

Give me the European helicopter any day over the rubbish turkish one.

@allmagor8527

Жыл бұрын

​@@omererten4399 T-929 ATACK-2.

@Ezekiel903

Жыл бұрын

it's an Italian chopper, built on license by Turkey, and the Mangusta is even very old for European standard, he enter service in 1990, and Turkey changed a few things and call them now "high technology"!

My country using ah T129 . Im proud.From philippines

@esrefatas

Жыл бұрын

Happy to hear that :)

@DizzyDad

Жыл бұрын

Powered by American engines ( LHTEC CTS800-4N) teehee we win

@DespothLord

Жыл бұрын

@@DizzyDad ahahahha boomer tell me how many nations are making parts for your paper plane f 35? and yet it cant even fly.... lol

@leonardo718

Жыл бұрын

The Turkish aircraft A129 mangusta of Agusta Italiana is Italian. And the same fuselage as the Italian mangusta, but Turkish instrumentation.

@leonardo718

Жыл бұрын

@@DizzyDad no

T129 wins, its just more modern...if you want it done right, do it yourself....well done turkiye!

@carlogrignaschi8773

Жыл бұрын

Do it yourself? They bought the license... And bought the tecnology nothing new..... Just a mare copy.. Of eu tecnology....

@riccardoghelli4076

Жыл бұрын

@@carlogrignaschi8773 it's false, Turkish Aerospace Industry with the help of Leonardo designed the T129 starting from the AW129, it's avionics and weapon systems which TAI developed all by themselves aren't the same as the AW129

@Happy-wb8gi

Жыл бұрын

The dude does not know what he is saying,lol. I bet his country does not even have buses🤣🤣🤣. Forza Italia

@geostath8684

Жыл бұрын

With what engine fly T-129

@seyfo.03

Жыл бұрын

@@geostath8684 We make our own engine, avionics, laser systems, camera, sensors, rockets, everything is made in Türkiye.

Another unspoken advantage of T129 is that it is developed for harsher atmospheric conditions(extreme hot and cold of mountanious regions) and has better combat readiness.

@sariaslan90

Жыл бұрын

It was somewhat mentioned in the beginning.

Turkey is the number1 when it comes to price/performance, I would choose T129

@carlogrignaschi8773

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahs... Typical from a underdeveloped country....

@reytumanda1696

Жыл бұрын

@@carlogrignaschi8773 you cannot even spell properly the word typical and you are from a developed country?

@annoyedcat9291

Жыл бұрын

@@carlogrignaschi8773 Ever heard of grammar?

@halilreissedyeci1956

Жыл бұрын

t129 is not turk made, it has italian body(a129) and american engine(lhtrc cts800) just a variant of a129 built under licensed in turkey

@halilreissedyeci1956

Жыл бұрын

@@carlogrignaschi8773 t129 is not turk made, it is italian and has a129(body) modified more pwerful american engine(lhtec cts800) it is a variant of a129

I would go for the turkish chopper

100 units of T129s continue their operations in the east of Turkey and the mountains of Iraq every day and have proven themselves in the harshest conditions.

@user-si8cf2we5w

Жыл бұрын

more than 5000 apaches has proven their value from 1986 in much harshet conitions.

@afafaad9206

Жыл бұрын

@@user-si8cf2we5w WTF? Apache is not the helicopter you can compare with T129. If you want to compare Apache go search Mi-28 or similar other heavy attack helicopters. T129 is more of a light helicopter.

@serkankara8379

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-si8cf2we5w you shouldn't be compare American weapon industry with Turkeys' ones. Two country don't have the same amount of budget for weapon industry.

@user-si8cf2we5w

Жыл бұрын

@@serkankara8379 in this case you shouldnt say that the t129 is the best on his category.the fact is that it is a good helicopter but not even on the top 10.besides when you compare any military equipment with another you dont compare the countrys budget but the equipment.

@XcalwCron

Жыл бұрын

@@user-si8cf2we5w cry

Turkish one is newest, cheapest, got better performance and combat proven. Easy choice.

@andreatosi342

Жыл бұрын

Turkish attack heli is developed and derived by the aw129 "Mangusta" Italian attack helicopter .

@sametoruc1347

Жыл бұрын

@@andreatosi342 built in Turkey with USA engine installed by Turkish engineers.. what are you smoking?? learn to respect that people spent time and put effort to built this thing.... yeah maybe it was based on same platform of T129 but the Turks put their own taste into it and now they are working on ATAK 2 which will be built with Turkish engine so they deserve some respect!

@Murat-rl6sw

Жыл бұрын

@@andreatosi342 you are mistaken. T129 only shares the chassis with the mangusta. Everything else is different.

@heybabycometobutthead

Жыл бұрын

@@sametoruc1347 why you so sensitive? What he said is the truth, Turkey made a licensed copy of an Italian helicopter, with foreign engines, big deal

@fa779

Жыл бұрын

@@andreatosi342 all the aviation systems and the softwares are made by Turkey, i wouldnt call it italian just because it looks like mangusta. It has been changed very deeply.

Aside from the good quality, whoever buys from Turkish manufacturers can count on a long lasting good relationship encompassing many other benefits without fear of possible sanctions attached to the sales like it's the case when buying from EU, US or CA. If you buy from those, you may or may not count on continued sales of the platforms or the ammunition for bad weather reasons like conflicts or shifting of political agenda. Türkiye will deliver with no strings attached. That's the difference.

@bobh9661

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point.

@So_Lo_Turk

Жыл бұрын

Our country started to produce its own weapons because of these problems. Thanks to the embargo imposed on us, we acquired unmanned systems (plane/ship/land vehicle). We are actively working on long-range missiles. We have assembled an incredible team to produce aircraft engines. Many of our engineers who used to work in this field were assassinated and our progress was hindered and stolen. These do not happen anymore and we can produce them. When countries like the USA sell their systems, they apply restrictions with software so that you do not use them in places without its permission. Türkiye would never do that to its allies.

@Ezekiel903

Жыл бұрын

first, they can't sell the T129 without "sanctions", it's an Italian chopper build on license by Turkey, the engine are American and a lot more incl. software moduls, so they an be sanctioned like all others! btw, Italy started using it in the 1990, Apache it's a few years older, and you call this newest developments???

@gokhancakmak1410

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ezekiel903 the engine is changed with a domestically made one, and avionics also :)

@Ezekiel903

Жыл бұрын

@@gokhancakmak1410 domestically engine?? hahaa, Avionics?? hahaa. ok

Greetings to Philippines to all my brothers and sisters that support Turkiye on all youtube comment sections. cCc

t 129 d best for phil.air force..👍🇵🇭

Both aircraft are amazing but different price...I go to T-129

@mariokuppers5686

Жыл бұрын

Nope you don´t for 1 simple reason Tiger Ejection Seats, T-129 only Crashworthy Seats. But for anything else T-129 over Tiger. But it could be worth it could be an NH 90

@foreverson

Жыл бұрын

Is there anyone who can use this ridiculous eject system at low altitude in trough blades? Or has it ever been used? It's not like making airbags for Mer***es and robbing customers from the service.

@ThePunisher014

Жыл бұрын

@@mariokuppers5686 Ain’t no body ejecting from a helicopter that got struck by a MANPAD. Especially that nowadays‘ warfare consistent of low-alt flying which means less time for impact.

@redtv34

Жыл бұрын

@@mariokuppers5686 If he says i go to T-129 you just like cannot say ' Nope you don't', you could say that 'Maybe you shouldn't go for T-129 because of .....' like that.

To be honest. The t129 is much better by the price and performance and its new, well younger than the tiger. So i think that t129 is gonna win here

T129 is battle proven.

@djawa2032

Жыл бұрын

tiger helicopter since 2009 in afghanistan bro

@inwedavid6919

Жыл бұрын

@@djawa2032 and in mali and all operation of the French army.

@samizakariya5155

Жыл бұрын

@@inwedavid6919 you forgot sahel wars tiger lost when the insurgent could fight back.

@masterp401

Жыл бұрын

@@djawa2032Didnt Taliban win that one?🤣

@inwedavid6919

Жыл бұрын

@@samizakariya5155 It was a Gazelle not a tiger. A very old light helicopter.

T129 One number.This is just the beginning. ATAK 2 is coming. Greetings to the 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭Philippines and 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰Pakistan

T129 is awesome 👌 Masha Allah

Türkiye devamlı savaş halinde. tüm silahlarını aktif olarak kullanıyor. ve kendini sürekli güncelliyor.

@mrmerm

Жыл бұрын

Evet asıl nokta bu, çoğunlukla bunu ön plana çıkarmıyor rakipler, tüm dünyada sürekli savaş tecrübesi ile kendini hazır tutan başka bir ordu yok....

@dorukyaylal2839

Жыл бұрын

@benibilemezsin dünyanın en büyük askeri gücünden bahsediyoruz. Ama fransa-italya-almanya konsersiyumu 50 yıldır savaş görmüyor. Kıya yapılan apachee değil tiger sonuçta

Long live Pakistan -Turkye brothers, Ameen.

@youneshabib9672

Жыл бұрын

They are not your our brothers. Biggest enemy. They hate you

@duckerid3622

Жыл бұрын

We are not brother. We were never brother.

@kezalik

Жыл бұрын

@@duckerid3622 yep, greece and Pakistan were never brother. Real Turks and Pakistanis are brothers. Alhamdulillah!

@hakansenoglu8621

Жыл бұрын

Türklerin ne Pakistan ne arablarla genetlk bağı yok nasıl kardeş oluyorlar???.Bir bağ varsa Doğu Roma imp. İnsanlarıyla var.celal hocanın dediği gibi biz müslüman avrupalilariz.

@eniyidostun2831

11 ай бұрын

@@duckerid3622 İts true armenia and pakistan is never brother 😂

t129 actively fought on many fronts and proved itself. tiger has not been used outside of exercises and is undeservedly expensive

@MartSiluro

Жыл бұрын

Where the T129 was used? What about Mali, Afghanistan etc for the Tiger?

@Klliansimabras

Жыл бұрын

Tu vis dans une grotte toi.

@ilkersedat2158

Жыл бұрын

@@MartSiluro brother t129 eweryday fight .syrian and irak with all the terorist

@barracuda7018

Жыл бұрын

@@ilkersedat2158 Brother, terrorists don't have anti aircraft missiles to fight back. Atac hasn't been used in a real war high intensity battlefields... The only real battle hardened hardware is the APACHE..the best there is...destroyed hundreds of tanks and armoured vehicles. Atac is Westland designed with loads of western technology integrated including American engine...

@barracuda7018

Жыл бұрын

@@MartSiluro It was used against barefoot guerrillas..😁 armed with AK 47.

t129 has proven itself. more modern, cheaper, better...Turkish Attack T129

T129 Atak - Best of its Kind!

Attack is stronger, and faster!!

The ATAK is the superior weapon that is also battle proven in one of the most hostile climatic environments in the world. Also the Tiger is reaching retirement age. The ATAK has a completely newer model superior to the APACHE on the way called the ATAK T130 (Both the T129 and upcoming T130 has A.I. and works in conjunction with UCAVs).

@allmagor8527

Жыл бұрын

No, we are talking about the T-929 Atack-2. Which will be the best helicopter in the world

@user-si8cf2we5w

Жыл бұрын

you compare the brand new turkish helicopter with a us helicopter that is in sercice from 1986.why don t you try to compare it with the AH-64E Apache Guardian which is the most leathel helicopter of 2023?it is easy to say that a new helicopter is better when you compare it with a 40 year old helicopter but if you dare to compare it another new helicopter then you will realise that it is actually a medium helicopter

@selimi1071

Жыл бұрын

@@user-si8cf2we5w Then tell me a new helicopter, let's compare. Making its first flight, the T-929 (ATAK-2) is the largest and best helicopter in the heavy class helicopter category.

@YETERKABULET

Жыл бұрын

@@user-si8cf2we5w 11.5 ton ?

@user-si8cf2we5w

Жыл бұрын

@@allmagor8527 maybe in your dreams.

T129 has a better set of strike equipments with a higher technology and cheaper. So T129 wins.

Türk silahlı kuvvetleri 🤘💪

@user-fk4rl2vg1t

Жыл бұрын

🤘🇹🇷

@ilkay5538

Жыл бұрын

La gardaş , adam helikopterden bahsediyor, ordudan değil...

@user-fk4rl2vg1t

Жыл бұрын

@@ilkay5538 Tamam işte , helikopter türk silahlı kuvvetlerin envanterinde.

@huseyinderya3803

Жыл бұрын

@@ilkay5538 bahsedilen helikopter neyin evnanterinde peki gardas

@clausiuscarnot9011

Жыл бұрын

bu ne şimdi yorumunun ne özelliği var offensif olması dışında?

T129 Atak is a very good combat helicopter. Especially high altitude performance is excellent. The best solution for armies..

lets be honest t129 is much better price and performance well done turkiye

The winner is Turkish Helicopter.

@aptalyoutube.

Жыл бұрын

It's the cliché helicopter of today, but the AH-64 is a beast

@doodleydoo

Жыл бұрын

@@aptalyoutube. only you believed in Iraq they was shouting down from Iraqi Army.

@SentryX-58

2 ай бұрын

i think you are wrong

The T129 is in active use. This is developed with feedback. In which operation did Eurocopter prove itself?

@derbigpr500

Жыл бұрын

Afghanistan, Libya, all over Africa.

@didierleonard7125

Жыл бұрын

@@derbigpr500 yeah so many videos in KZread yet that this guy need to question it ?!? Lazy mind or dishonesty intellectual ? Or both ….

@ugurcelik2688

Жыл бұрын

@@derbigpr500 Do you think the two areas are the same, one is a patrol mission and the other is a hot conflict area

@lovedateline110

Жыл бұрын

@@ugurcelik2688 what hot conflict area did T129 prove itself?

@fatihengin9782

Жыл бұрын

@@lovedateline110Syria,Irak, against terrorists in the western mountains of Türkiye. :) and, against rebel gangs in philippine :)

Of Course T129...

Turkey is now making heavy T-129 helicopters. Its name is ATAK-2, T-929. enters mass production as a more advanced 10-ton. 👍

Turkish model was tested in combat areas more times… I choose Atak…

The T129 was designed for asymmetrical combat in deep valleys and at high altitudes. If attention is paid, it is seen that the service altitude and climbing speed are higher. The T129 was not designed for tank hunting on large plains.

@msamet61

11 ай бұрын

Yes, you are right. Firstly, ATAK was not designed for tank or mechanize units attack. But for this duty CIRIT, UMTAS, L-UMTAS and MAM-L rockets and misseles were developed by Roketsan Co. Atak can hunt most of tanks from 18 km range without any visual contact but any laser guide (from infantry or UAVs).

The Turkish helicopter looks better

@theentertainmentnation4694

Жыл бұрын

Italian Helicopter*

@King01010

Жыл бұрын

@@theentertainmentnation4694 What’s an Italian helicopter

@ttalex2426

Жыл бұрын

@@King01010 The A129 Mangusta helicopter was designed and built in Italy by Augusta/Wetsland, which became Leonardo in 2021. Turkey took the A129 Mangusta and had the license to build and modify it for its needs. The new model is now Leonardo AW249. Leonardo (augusta/westland) also have license to build apache ah64 (more than 60 build for british army).

@fatihengin9782

Жыл бұрын

@@ttalex2426 dude, the helicopter's plain and outer body belongs to italians, apart from its internal engine, avionics, software, operational capability and missiles, it's 2 times superior to the italians.

@ttalex2426

Жыл бұрын

@@fatihengin9782 with last upgrade delta its near thbe same. they all use pre-made pieces, everything is not produced from scratch, but then it depends on how you put them together, in the f35 there are pieces produced in Italy. Aniway at end of story, Turkey took the A129 Mangusta and had the license to build and modify it for its needs.

FYI Turkey is also a member of NATO.

@yigitboga

Жыл бұрын

Kesinlikle Ben Türk olarak NATO katılmıyorum Ben NATO ya Destek Kesinlikle vermem. Neden? NATO BİZİM EN BÜYÜK DÜŞMAN çünkü NATO ülkeleri Teröristlere destek veriyor. Kesinlikle NATO ülkesi olmamalıyız burası Müslüman ülke

@carlogrignaschi8773

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately....

@mete9631

Жыл бұрын

Nice

You can carry your shopping packages with Tiger. T129 was used in the war in Syria and Turkey. It has been tested.

@tyga3130

Жыл бұрын

You Forgot Afghanistan Lybia and Mali for the Tigers Bro. When Tiger was on war duty, the Turkish doesn’t had T129 yet

@adeliomoro2069

Ай бұрын

​@@tyga3130 But the A129 was ...

T129 is good one

Turkish weapons are battle tested . I would go with that :)

@tiziokcaiok3110

Жыл бұрын

ask the Somalis in 1993 how the Italian mongooses were tested, or ask the terrorists in Afghanistan, or the Americans, who often needed the support of AW129Ds to defend their ground troops. or ask for it in irak. the mongoose, despite being replaced by the AW249, is currently updated to the Delta version, it is superior to the Turkish copy.

@sametoruc1347

Жыл бұрын

@@tiziokcaiok3110 keep crying 😭😭😭

@tiziokcaiok3110

Жыл бұрын

@@sametoruc1347 😂😂 cry for what? every t129 that turkey sells must give Leonardo a percentage ... and the AW249 or AH249 is flying 😂😂you are usually 20 years behind 😂😂

@sametoruc1347

Жыл бұрын

@@tiziokcaiok3110 keep crying, keep lying and keep fooling yourself cause this is all you can do 🤫🤫🤫 The AH-249A equipped with the same engines of the AW149 and the same modernization system of the AW-129 🤣 the airborne time will increase from 2 to 3 hours, the cruise speed from 115 to 140 knots (from 213 to 259 km/h) and the service ceiling from 15,000 to 20,000 feet. even old Attack Helicopters are have better specs expect AH-249 will be ceiling up to 20.000 feet 😂 lets see what Attack 2 COMBAT HELICOPTER offering and thn you can continue to fool yourself and disrespecting the effort that people put into build something, the time they spent, engineers involved... what kind of person are you, what's your humanity level, what kind of life education you have?? Respect is a nice thing mate, you should learn to respect...

@tiziokcaiok3110

Жыл бұрын

@@sametoruc1347 😂😂😂😂 atak 2? what is it ? new model for computer war games? 🤣🤣🤣🤣... go back to your dictator's propaganda videos, and sweet dreams.

Turkish T-129 2 is out now with more modifications makes is better than the eurocopter

T129 number one... 👏👏👏 Love use all countries! The Best Turkish Army! 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

@user-xh5pc3wd2m

Жыл бұрын

turkish army is for the cry

@onurturkoglu

Жыл бұрын

@@user-xh5pc3wd2m Yunan ordusu denizde yüzmek içindir. İyi hatırla 9-9-1919 first swimming lesson 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

@erdincaltun1404

Жыл бұрын

@@user-xh5pc3wd2m hazır kıta bekliyoruz bir gece ansızın 🙈

@razimakkaya7095

Жыл бұрын

@@user-xh5pc3wd2mok we come to atina 2 week ass hold 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

@hakankosoglu5180

Жыл бұрын

you sure? because turkey fighted with 6 countries

T129 its a killa machine

It depends on what purposes you want to use a helicopter for. European looks good also. Turkish T129 ATAK/T129 is specially created for search and destroy missions for the inaccessible areas where we cannot send soldiers. Also our police and and miliatir police using it now. During the day and at night nothing can stop him from detecting and destroying terrorists and their bases, there are movies about how such an operation works here on youtube. His heavier brother is now also on the way TAI T929 ATAK-2 has passed the engine tests and expected to be in the air soon and. T-629 is also ready and its a unmanned helicopter. Unmanned aerial vehicles, fighter jets and helicopters are important to us because over the years we have lost over 40000 thousand soldiers to terrorist organisations and groups from now on we will not lose any more soldiers only the terrorists will lose. Greetings.

Probably the Turk. T129 is actually an older design. Eurocopter (Airbus) has received a lot of grief over their Maintenance support (lack of) like w/ the Bundeswehr.

@Jamirio

Жыл бұрын

Not really it is just the Bundeswehr that is a mediocre army

@SuperGeronimo999

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jamirio No, Tiger sucks in general. This is why Australia is already replacing them with Apaches, despite getting the last Tiger not too long ago, in 2010. Spain just can't afford it, while Germany and France are too proud to buy the Apache or anything else instead.

Tiger was tested in Mali Africa and the result was not useful.

@tyga3130

Жыл бұрын

You forgot Afghanistan and Lybia

The t129's ammo carrying capacity is much more, if you reduce the ammunition weight to the same amount as the Tiger and add a spare fuel tank instead, its range will increase. In addition, the maximum speed of the t129 is measured at its maximum altitude of 15000 feet, if the t129 makes the maximum speed attempt at 13500 feet, which is the maximum altitude of the tiger, it will exceed the tiger in speed as the engine will breathe more oxygen. In other words, the t129 is ahead of all comparisons.

T129 Atak has new technologies, stronger, cheaper than Tiger. Definitely T129

I do not understand the childish comments. When you take a look the history, you will see a lot of cooperation between the countries such as Italy and Turkey to develop T 129 from Augusta. It does not make T129 a bad helicopter. It is one of the most advanced attack helicopter. T129 is battle proof helicopter and in action almost everyday whereas Tiger had a lot of issues in it’s history. I would go for T 129.

@myaxxa

Жыл бұрын

Yorumun bir İtalyan'a ait olduğunu sandım. Cevap vermeye gerek kalmadı. Yazık.

@SuperGeronimo999

Жыл бұрын

Do you choose Mercedes or Fiat?

@paolocarpi4769

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperGeronimo999Pathetic. Do you choose Volkswagen or Ferrari? Helicopter world market is: 48% Airbus, 20% Leonardo (was agusta-westland), 18% Bell, 12% Russian helicopters, 1% Sikorski, 2% others. 20% of helicopters flying around the world are Italian, and have an extremely good reputation. Ask around.

@SuperGeronimo999

Жыл бұрын

@@paolocarpi4769 Ferrari is tiny compared to VW, which owns Lamborghini and Bugatti aswell.

@paolocarpi4769

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperGeronimo999LoL. It's not very smart buying a car or an helicopter because of industrial revenues and not because of technical specification and performance. 😆😆😆😆😆 Lost your arguments? I showed you industry numbers and you can add to the equation the fact that Mangusta and derivative demonstrated on the battlefield reliability and effectiveness while tiger is notoriously problematic to the point it is decommissioned by some military.... I stick with Ferrari, you can ride your Beetle.

Bu silahlar ezilen tüm kardeslerim icin icaat edildi !allah birligimizi beraberligimizi güclendirsin insallah❤

@atay68

Жыл бұрын

Amin dostum

@keremizidogru4028

Жыл бұрын

@@atay68 amin kardesim❤

@Tulparyelesi

Жыл бұрын

Filipinler mi ezilen? Filipinlere sattığınız helikopterleri ayrılıkçı müslümanlara karşı kullanıyorlar. Siz burdan erdoğanın propagandalarını papağan gibi tekrarlayın.

As a German I say: F*ck off Tiger! I want Apaches!!! After over 20 years, the Tiger still doesen‘t work properly… and lacks a 30mm gun…

@geldoncupi1

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you’re a German.. and you know shit about helis

@markkir193

Жыл бұрын

@Donny only about a dozen out of 68 are operational…🙈🙈

@CriscCiaddu

Жыл бұрын

If desired, a tiger can mount the 30mm turret like the Spanish and French tiger. Not to equip the 30mm gun was a choice of the German government.

@Leptospirosi

Жыл бұрын

If Leonardo and Airbus weren't such at odds, the AH249 program could have been shared and could offer a decent price to performance ratio. The A129 has been flying since the late 80 and could have been an excellent development base, but Eurocopter decided it knew better and we all know the outcome. The Apache is a good helicopter but it's both massive and very expensive, both to purchase and maintain: in Iraq and Afghanistan did not impress as it size as a target makes up for the additional armour: it was designed with the Warsaw pact in mind operating in a low tech environment like the early eighties central Europe, but today it's as vulnerable, as a design, as the Ka-52, not faring much better then the old Mi35 on the Ukrainan front. I'd rather be in a small but agile helicopter, protected against small arms, then inside a 16m coffin with a lot of metal to slug me down against manpads

@DizzyDad

Жыл бұрын

It sounds like you're talking American. Apache is the 5th fastest helicopter in the world. Time tested for sure.

the Turkish one is built on the fuselage of the Italian Mangusta A-129 but with Turkish instrumentation.

@carlogrignaschi8773

Жыл бұрын

You just buying old italian helicopters.... You do not have technology.. You buy it.... Do not believe it what they say in your country.. I give you an example.. For producing next gen jet no one single G7 country is producing by himself.. Not even usa.... Too expensive and too much technology.... But Turkey, that is much richet stronger and intelligent is producing a jet all by itself.... Wow and you belive it....? For this reason your little muslim dictator is still in powet...

@hakanylmaz2756

Жыл бұрын

Yes 👍

@hakansenoglu8621

Жыл бұрын

Farketmez tarihe bakarsak İtalyanlar bizden😊

Well, Australia has Tiger choppers, but planning to retire them. Read below: The early retirement of the Tiger ARH follows on-going issues with the European-developed helicopter’s sustainment and serviceability rates and issues connecting its Eurogrid datalink to other ADF assets and networks that have limited its operational utility. Finally, the Tiger has yet to operate off the Navy’s new LHD amphibious assault ships. “The Tiger has had a troubled history - essential upgrades are programmed to maintain the capability’s effectiveness,” the Integrated Investment Program document, which was released on Thursday, states. “Defence will invest in a future armed reconnaissance capability to replace the Tiger, which could include manned or unmanned systems or a combination of both, to be introduced from the mid-2020s.” The Army operates 22 Tigers, which entered service from December 2004, but the type has yet to achieve Final Operational Capability, a milestone that was originally planned for June 2009 and had been rescheduled to January 2016.

Philippines ordering 12 more T129

@vorpalsword8165

Жыл бұрын

no

Two of the most beautiful attack helicopters (from countries Europe and America) in my opinion. If we compare them with each other, they are similar in many ways and have equal opportunities. Therefore, this case is empty and boring. But I really like them visually. The designers did a great job and the EC665 Tiger and T129 ATAK turned out great. Naturally, I also take into account the Italian progenitor AgustaWestland A129 Mangusta, and it seems to me the most beautiful.

The T129 has proven itself in the most challenging atmospheric conditions in terms of attack and capability. It will facilitate the mobility of the heroic Turkish Armed Forces and Brave Soldiers under all conditions.

Bizim helikopterimiz güzel ...

Turks have amazing weapons

Hourly Operation cost 💲 probably better with T129

What makes better ; Turkish Army has experience in combat area since 1990s That's why Turks know what you need in real situations. Also ATAK 2 is on way its bigger and more sophisticated weapons and electronics.

Australia also wants to scrap 22 of the helicopters it bought just eight years ago. Even more troublesome, the Tiger has not yet reached its "final operational capability".

T129 hands down, its a export version of the Italian A129 Mangusta. Its battle tested and reliable, the Tiger hasnt done much

Thanks to all the positive comments from 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷.

The problem I see for both is the very low amount of cells produced, even adding the Italian A129C and D to the bunch, which make them both unreasonably expensive (the tiger especially). At least the Agusta has been proven extremely reliable while deployed, in Somalia, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. The Tiger on the other side has been a troublemaker for almost 20 years since declared operational.

@EmrahKAYNAR

Жыл бұрын

I am sorry bro but tiger is not operational yeah is 20 years old but not seen a war. Peacekeeping force and war are two different things..

@tyga3130

Жыл бұрын

@@EmrahKAYNARTiger was In Afghanistan, Lybia, and Mali. When Tiger was in the warfare Turkish doesn’t have T129 yet

@EmrahKAYNAR

Жыл бұрын

​@@tyga3130 tiger was commissioned in 2003 t129 is 2009.. You talk as it's 30 years between them. You forget, we were in Libya and we buried all of Europe there. their crying continues.

@TurkishRepublicanX

Жыл бұрын

@@tyga3130 Tiger went to Afghanistan but never saw combat as far as I'm aware

@didierleonard7125

Жыл бұрын

@@TurkishRepublicanX never see combat ?!? What a joker! Maybe you weren’t t in the cockpit to see it POV ? If it was deployed there, do you think they were used to distribute flowers to afghan ladies ? Or maybe used as a fan to refresh soldiers ?

T-129

This helicopter is the hand of the Turkish army. In the harsh conditions in the east, mostly road access is extremely limited and very dangerous, while the Turkish army is constantly scanning the rocky steep region in the east with unmanned aerial vehicles, helicopters are always ready for combat and are used for transportation. While operating in the region with fighter jets is costly, it is much more cost-effective to operate in the region with helicopters and drones. The Turkish army remains active in the region all the time. For this reason, these machines are constantly being updated, attack 2 will be produced soon, the armament and carrying capacity of that helicopter will be much higher. Some sources write that attack 2 can transport 24 soldiers from one region to another at once.

Türk Helikopterleri Dünyanın en iyisi 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

Turkish developpement and production is unbelievebly fast ! in a few years they will surperform a lot of nation thank's to smart and young population and a good management. in Europe there is HELLFEST in turkey there is TEKNOFEST

Those who try to undermine Turkish T129 saying it has foreign parts; should research how many Turkish parts American BOEING planes have and who produces MOST F16 fighter planes even though it's under licence.

The better Pilot 🇹🇷 ! The better Helicopter 🇹🇷 !

@carlogrignaschi8773

Жыл бұрын

The best.. The best... Only an underdeveloped counry says that is the best..... Big ego small dick...

Turkish T-129 new version is out now! Turkish T-129 2 the Turkish pilot does a complete 360 vertical loop in the T-129! Never before done on ANY helicopter!

En guclu Turkiyem dunyanin en guclu ulkem 🤘🤘 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 ne mutlu Turkum

Although Turkey's helicopters are not advanced enough, Turkey is a big country with a large number of weapons, and it can be said to be a very strong military power in Europe. In Europe, after France, Britain, and Russia, Turkey is arguably the fourth strongest military power.

@TurkishRepublicanX

Жыл бұрын

Not advanced enough in what metric?

@greytr5286

Жыл бұрын

Turkish military is better than french and british militaries

@TurkishRepublicanX

Жыл бұрын

@@greytr5286 tartışılır kanka, nükleer silahları, uçak gemileri, F35, Tempest, Rafale gibi uçakları olan ülkelerden bahsediyoruz

@TurkishRepublicanX

Жыл бұрын

@@greytr5286 Kendimi ezik görmüyorum. Bunun yeni-eski Türkiye muhabbetiyle de bir ilgisi yok bu aptal kafadan çıkın. Türkiye her zaman güçlüydü ve güçlü kalacak. Evet bu söylediklerimin muadillerini yapmaya çalışıyoruz ama adamların gerisindeyiz açık ve net.

@TurkishRepublicanX

Жыл бұрын

​@@greytr5286 Yanlış düşünüyorsun, Baykar gibi 1-2 istisna hariç bahsettiğin projelerin tamamı çok eski kurumlar ve şirketler tarafından yürütülüyor, TSKGV, Askeri fabrikalar ve Otokar gibi özel şirketler üçlüsü üzerine kurulu, SSM tarafından organize edilen bir sistem. 1974 Kıbrıs Barış Harekatı sonrasında atılan tohumların meyvelerini alıyoruz. Bunları tek tek ele alalım 1) Özel şirketler biraz daha gelişti ama burada o kadar büyük rüşvetler ve yolsuzluklar dönüyor ki ağzınız açık kalır. Çok yakınen tanıdığım insanlar üzerinden biliyorum 2)TSKGV Geçmişte olduğu gibi bugün de Türk Savunma Sanayii'nin bel kemiğini oluşturuyor burada problem yok 3) Askeri fabrikaların beli kırılmış durumda, Tuzla tershanesi tek istisna, gerçekten iyi çalışıyor ama karada durum çok vahim. Tank palet fabrikasının BMC ye satılması, BMC nin de devamlı el değiştirmesi ve önceden sivil kamyon, kamyonet, otobüs üreten bir firmayken şimdi tamamen devletin verdiği ihalelere bağımlı bir firma olması sebebiyle geleceği muğlak. MKEK eskiden de iyi bir kurum değildi, bugün de değil. Hafif silah konusunda rekabet ortamının sağlanmaması bizi özgün tasarım üretemeyen tamamen kopya üzerine kurulu bir silah sanayisi haline getiriyor. Yurt dışında da Türk yapımı silahlar ucuzluğuyla öne çıkıyor. Kısaca; ilerlediğimiz noktalar olduğu gibi yerimizde saydığımız hatta gerilediğimiz noktalar da çok. 20 sene önce Nokia 3210 vardı, şimdi iphone 14 var bunlar devlet açısından gelişme değildir. 1974 te G3 üretiyorduk bugün MPT üretiyoruz bu da gelişme değil. Eski Türkiye-Yeni Türkiye diye bir ayrım yapabilmek için kurumların gelişmesi, fonksiyonunu layığıyla yerine getiremeyen kurumların gidip yenilerinin gelmesi ya da mevcut kurumların kökten bir yeniden yapılanma süreci içerisine girmesi gerekir ve bu açıdan büyük bir değişim görmüyorum. Beni en çok üzen de Altay projesi tam bir fiyasko haline geldi. Şu aşamada projenin iptal edilmesi, üretime geçmesinden daha hayırlı olur T-14, Panther ve EMBT gibi tanklarla yarışabilecek yeni nesil bir tankın tasarlanıp geliştirilmesi şart oldu. 10 sene sonra değiştireceğimiz tankı üretime sokmanın bir anlamı yok. Selçuk Bayraktar bile Amerika'da okumuş, Aziz Sancar bile Nobel Ödülünü ABD de çalışarak aldı bu bile durup düşündürmeli sizi. İyi günler.

The operational capability of the Turkish armed forces is many times greater than that of many European countries. The reason is that we have been on the field non-stop for centuries. Both naval, air and land forces have all kinds of operational and maneuvering capabilities. It doesn't matter how much is on paper. The important thing is to use this inventory in the right place at the right time in an optimal way and get maximum efficiency.

@adeliomoro2069

Ай бұрын

I didn't know Europe was a peaceful Place during all those centuries , It Is Always good tò learn something in life

of course t129 atak

T129 is a attack reconnissance helikopter. Which has lighter body, lighter weight and less ammunation to carry, with 5 rotary wings pals. Along side of those it has strong engine if you consider its weight. All of these because of envroinment its planned to use for is area with all kind of crosswinds and thinner air because of high altitude. At the other hand eurotiger has different motivation behind it. It's heavier aircraft with lots of heavy armament. Its just doesn't feel right to compare two different class and role aircrafts.

Aaah the tiger was a dud in Australia there now getting rid of them for the Apache.....

my Fov. T129 ATAK !

Süper Güç Türkiye 🇹🇷

@sadaqatshah2428

Жыл бұрын

In sha Allah ❤

@hakansenoglu8621

Жыл бұрын

Superguc olmamız için ekonomimize Super olması lazim.ileride ins

T-129 is good for defense, Tiger is good for museums and show rooms.

best of luck for brother Turkey.

NOW FROM TURKISH SIDE T-929 LOADING :)

Super power turkiye

@emre-zl7pp

Жыл бұрын

🐺Türkiye

The TAI T129 Atak (Advanced Attack and Tactical Reconnaissance Helicopter) is an all-weather combat helicopter based on the Agusta A129 from Italy, further developed by the Turkish companies TAI (Turkish Aerospace Industries) and Aselsan with the support of the Italian company AgustaWestland. In June 2014, the first three serial machines were handed over to the Turkish armed forces.

Turkish helicopter are good compare to tiger . Also Turkish helicopter are actively working in harsh and very rough conditions in syria , Philippines and some African countries where tiger lives in peaceful environment with no fight or checked in any war .

their design purposes are different. T129 is build for asymetrical warfare in harsh conditions and challenging geograpies such as mountain areas, valleys etc. So this is why it has higher maneuverability and better defence systems for air defence and electronic warfare. But carries less load and slightly lighter weapons. Because main purpose is not seek and destroy tanks or other armored vehicles but still capable to do it with Umtas guided missiles.

T129 . Price is King.

I choose our Atak T129.

Turkey has its own eco-system now, proud

T129 is a machine that performs on the battlefield every day. Tiger is a machine that only performs demonstration flights.

The best T129🇹🇷👍

Turkey Atak 2 BROO

One notable advantage of the T129 helicopter lies in its extensive combat experience. This aircraft is employed on a daily basis in the ongoing fight against terrorists in Northern Iraq and Syria. I believe other than apache(ah-64) no other helicopter has this much experience.

Türk atak helikopterleri muhariptir catışma görmüştür.Devamlı isteklere göre yenilenmektedir.

Turkish helicopter number one👍

tiger helicopter 😁 Ask the Australians about this helicopter. They're trying to throw it away.

@inwedavid6919

Жыл бұрын

Well thay love it but US came and say "now buy only US hardwaire", so no EU helicopters, no French submarine, no more Leopard tanks, all goes to US hardware. It is a political question.

@ugurkazgani6072

Жыл бұрын

@@inwedavid6919 tiger helicopters are extremely problematic and inadequate for australia. yes the US is costing the political problem. If Australia has a problem, would it trust the European Union or the USA? This is the most important question.

@inwedavid6919

Жыл бұрын

@@ugurkazgani6072 Australia since Aukus is an American colony, a private market for US firm.

T129 is the one and only right choice... Very nice battle copter... High end

Turkish aerospace is will be number that one of the word only wait three years later.

t129 atak

Its not an Turkish developed Chopper. Invented, created in Italy, Agusta AW129