Compare 18" Subwoofers II Yamaha DSR 118w and Cerwin Vega P1800SX | Disc Jockey News
John and Jeremy dig into comparing the Yamaha DSR 188W subwoofer with the Cerwin Vega P1800SX subwoofer.
In this video, we do a spot with a drum loop, then we do test the output at different frequencies with a tone generator.
Important Specs:
Cerwin Vega P1800SX: 2000 watt, 725 continous, Max SPL 136 cB, MAP $999
Yamaha DSR 118W: 1020 watt, 132 spl, MAP $999
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why did you stop at 55hz?
Also when are you going to review the DXS18?
I use the Yamaha DSR 118W but I believe that the sound coming out of it actually irritates older guests especially when the room has a low ceiling. Like you say, I need to tone it down at weddings!
@grafxnrg
7 жыл бұрын
At weddings it is a judgement call. If you see a lot of older people, reduce the volume on your bass-bottoms (sub-woofer), if you see mostly teens, then you are good to go. It all depends on what speakers you take for your tops. If you are using K10s or K12s then you need a sub-woofer is 75 people or more otherwise, take 15" Full-Range speakers and no-subs. 100 or more people, then take a sub or two. My rule, is to take more and not be without, than to take less and struggle the night if you need more.
@gptv4259
5 жыл бұрын
yeah actually older people don't like punchy base which causing pain in the chest for that i like the CV.
I want to get the cv 21 sub. And I wanted to know how it did against companies like JBl Yamaha Qsc. I have found that those subs tend to have punchy bass. They sound good but really lack that low low end that I want. That blow ur shirt type of low end. And the test seemed to show that the cv did just that controlled steady lows The Yamaha sounded loud but struggled and was all over the place. Cv sounded more to my liking. Thank u for the info guys. Ps my tops are the Qsc k12s. I have 4 of them. Thx
@grafxnrg
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you want that chest pounding bass, that punch, then go with Cerwin-Vega! If you buy the QSC sub-woofer, it has a nice kick, you can't go wrong - BUT - Cerwin-Vega has that legendary deep low bass, the kind you can feel. It's a workhorse. I had them in the 1980's, the folded horn, concert style subs and I have them now. My 18" Intense Series have lasted me 10 years, they are passive (non-powered). I currently also have the CVA-18 Subs and CVA-15 Subs, they kick some serious butt. Almost, everywhere I take them, people are impressed at the sound. The P1800X are up there in price, but I am sure they are worth it and will last you a very long time.
Vega kick ass
Wich are de rms of the Yamaha dsr18w
How about doing a video av DSR118w vs DXS18? Bought The dxs18 recently and have never heard the dsr118w.
@discjockeynews
8 жыл бұрын
The DXS18 had much more output than the DSR.. it is a bit more boomy.. but WAY more output!! it was a good $300/cabinet extra investment on your part!! :)
@KimCarlssonRoger
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Not cheap. P How about DXS18 vs EV ETX? Better comparison I guess.
@discjockeynews
8 жыл бұрын
I have not had them side by side.. but, the DXS18 is more of a boomy sound, while the ETX is more of a tighter bass.. but, that is mainly because they are two differently designed boxes (with their porting). :)
@mrproblemchild88able
8 жыл бұрын
+Kim Carlsson 👌
@e.r.sdjevents9727
7 жыл бұрын
i've got 2 DXS18 let me says EV subs are beated......
Recognised the song immediately - it's Al Jolson 'Mammy!'
The Yamaha rattled a lot ,regardless of frequency and level, the Cerwin Vega was clean and tight in all situations.Something was wrong with the way your measurements were taken.I don't dislike Yamaha, but in the subwoofer category Cerwin Vega is a legend and so very hard to beat usually in bass volume and overall bass quality.
@leeabel3854
Жыл бұрын
He already told that the metal ceiling rattling because Yamaha put out a more energy.
How much more headroom does the DSR118 have before limiting/clipping compared to the P1800SX
@grafxnrg
7 жыл бұрын
I believe they are roughly, about the same. Just remember to balance your sound on the mixer, keep it from going to the red, then adjust your sound on the sub-woofers and tops. Most DJs don't pay attention to this and like to "red-line" the sound, causing distortion. If the warning light blinks, just bring it down a few notches and you will be good.
VEGA won this one, sounds sweeet!
Excellent video test, but allways Cerwin Vega is the fucking máster of bass!!!
This is more a test on how a camera microphone records subwoofers. Played back on KZread. I watched it though so what can I say.
For any future reference to people coming on this video to make a decision, go to a store that has these and listen to them side by side for yourself. This comparison is misleading and lacks any data driven points. Ask yourself, where is the frequency response and distortion plots? Where is the group delay and phase plots? Where is the impulse and decay plots?
The song is Africa by Toto.
incomparable. yamaha sounds much colder and fatiguing. my CV pd 18 3way,s are over 30years old and still sound crispy and warm
is it the Beatles.. hard day's night ?
Yamaha sounds louder but NOT clean! Good comparison guys👍🏽
@jasonparker1454
4 жыл бұрын
could be cause of the recording of the higher pressure. difficult to say
The name on the track you guys used is... Rihanna - Work ft. Drake
@MultiEnoch123
7 жыл бұрын
djcheo nope. i dont know what track it is but i know its not work by Rihanna
Yeah what Wes said. Why did you stop at 55 Hz we want to hear 45 Hz 35 Hz and lower that's what the sub is for. I mean my mains will easily play down to 55 Hz at a moderate level if I want to forgo subs and I think most people going to (should) set their Xover around 80 Hz anyway. Which brings me to another point. Why do so many DJs set Xover to 100 or 120+ Hz ? I guarantee my tops sound cleaner @ 100hz than any mobile dj sub on the market. That is unless ur only goal is purely for max spl
The Cerwin Vega has a very good sound quality actually, I'm surprised. The tonal quality on the Vega is very nice and it does have a great reproduction of the notes. It sounded like the Yamaha was struggling and really had a bad sound quality
@discjockeynews
8 жыл бұрын
the Yamaha was making some things in the room make additional noise.. but I also wonder if it wasn't struggling as you say.. especially in the music test.
I have compared sub-woofers in the past; JBL, EV, Carvin, QSC, etc. many, but not Yamaha. Although, I can say that thus far, the bass coming out of Cerwin-Vega is always lower and deeper. Which is what I want in my system. In this video, Yamaha does better with higher frequencies, BUT, I leave that to my tops. The distortion on the Yamaha, based on the video is no good. A pair of full-range speakers and a pair of Cerwin-Vegas powering the bass is all you need.
@discjockeynews
7 жыл бұрын
Vega bass is a semi unique sound that if one likes that... you need to stay with Vega bass :)
You guys should wrestle.
Yamaha is louder but Vega sounds much better
@fidstang
5 жыл бұрын
You can't judge a video on youtube for sound quality. There is the issue of what microphone they use, if any, as most clip with anything over 105dB. I won't even get into the compression used by youtube and loss. The only way to know, is to hear them in person. I really hate youtube sound test, because most are non-scientific based, with no charts, group delay or phase info and frequency response with distortion plots.
Rihanna - Work
cerwin vega sound better,
@soyyo9704
6 жыл бұрын
kuna D can’t even 👂 the Cerwin Vega really, which is good.
@jomendez6929
5 жыл бұрын
indeed
I truly do not get it.. why are you driving the Yama way over it's capability? You can clearly hear the horrid distorsion. So what if the Yama poweramp has higher gain? Personally I do not care one way or the other for either sub but the test felt inconclusive, haphazard and left me with way more questions than answers.
Vega wins all the time.... unless you bring in EV
@hollywoodthedj1673
4 жыл бұрын
What brings You here .. Yeah EV Bangs!💯
yamaha. #1
rcf and bose are the best..
@dennisondenatalie
6 жыл бұрын
ramil yanson Bose is the best to you? Typical mobile DJ. Lol
@hardstylemexmendez1844
5 жыл бұрын
Dennison DeNatalie agree
Too much distortion on the Yamaha
@jgillylikesbudsalot7436
5 жыл бұрын
its a audio recording its due to sound files being compressed to make smaller files quicker and easier to upload
@booobtooober
4 жыл бұрын
@@jgillylikesbudsalot7436 so then why do we only hear distortion on the Yamaha but not the CV? Same settings, same tone, same mic.
@BlueF350
4 жыл бұрын
Its not distortion, that is a cast aluminum woofer, yes the actual woofer is very rigid, it doesn't just distort that easily. What you are hearing is what happens to the mic when it experiences high spl, if you were there you would be like what the F that S hits hard as F
Yahama all day
Please stop playing bass without a top it's pointless