Really enjoyed the first ride look. Thank you!

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

It was a $700 difference for me :p Ride One out in Toronto just posted their impressions video as well, super glad I have a Mini on the way.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it varies by region. But I think it's very applicable to mention since it's a decent amount of money.

another enjoyable video🫶🏻

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Good Points! I am also heavy and until now i havent got the Mini to bottom out. The suspension for -i would say- european and US size guys is just perfectly right…. while you here at LOT of claims that even the 66lbs patton is to soft. We all hope that Begode/Extrem Bull will release a bit more torque firmware, it should be easy for them after they proved on the EX30 and Master. All In i would say: Depending that nearly no plastik is used on this wheel and all is metal and a Really good quality, its one of THE best of my 13-15wheels i have bought until now.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

agree with a lot of your points !

Thanks for another great video! How would you rate the Mini vs Patton when it comes to ease of repairs, changing parts, changing tyre?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

I'll be doing the tire change soon. I think they're on par very similar. The only gripe I have is that extreme bull uses a lot of Philips head

team street. just ordered mine

nice video

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video! What the name of the song/beat at @08:30?

1:48 Albert crashes too !!! 😂 I’m glad you are okay.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

lol. just had to point it out eh?

@Pu2ding

Жыл бұрын

@@2cells1pack 🫶🏻 sharing is caring 🫰🏻gotta point it out and share this golden moment with EVERYONE!! Reminding everyone to be careful when turning a blind corner ;)

Is this Canada? If so, amazing environment! Which helmet do you prefer, the Shoei or TSG? Thanks

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's Vancouver, BC!

O man you need the upcoming Extreme(pun intended😜) torque as I can hear the CoMini straining gettin you up the climb. Overall, personally I think its a wash btwn the CoMini & Patton as a allrounder with each having their pros & cons. The Extreme is what excites me as I'm looking a dedicated dirt machine. That said, btwn the Patton & CoMini if both were at a similar price point, it would be a tough choice. I think the CoMini maybe a better wheel for those with just one to rule them all esp at the much better pricing. Good stuff

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it did struggle and the pedals dipped if i really slowed it down.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

if the extreme can straddle both sides. More Torque + More Speed, then it'll be a definite winner.

@scottsum1319

Жыл бұрын

@@2cells1pack Extreme freespins ~110kmh so def v similar topend as Comini. I'm betting da Extreme c40's gonna pull like a locomotive

@scottsum1319

Жыл бұрын

@@2cells1pack Ya the CoMini gettin you up sounds similar to my T4 getting me up a similar climb on dirt. Sorta disappointed the 134v c38 with the advantage of a smaller wheel isnt more torquey

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

yeah, I can't wait to try one.

At Dirt Surfer float academy blind corners are a key element to the training coarse 🙄 I was totally grossed out first impressions back when this was announced, but honestly it seems like a great wheel. Will Bradley be carrying these at eevees do you know?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was playing with the pads, tire pressure and pedal angle when the guy came around the corner. Was taken by surprise. I'm not sure what Bradley's plans are

Can this go up stair or it patton better for that?

Nice review. How about the new Kingsong S16 ?

@2cells1pack

4 ай бұрын

It’s a nice wheel :)

Guys, grsat video. Can you comment on the tires, you both used different tires. What are your thoughts on them? Thanks

@2cells1pack

4 ай бұрын

The street tire was better hands down

Aren't you able the adjust the suspension on both the Commader Mini and the Patton to you weight and riding style?

@2cells1pack

8 ай бұрын

Commander mini has less adjustments than Patton. Can’t fix a spring that’s too heavy or light, can only bandaid it

have you done video on commander mini suspension setup

@2cells1pack

4 ай бұрын

I have not unfortunately

May I ask about the Shiko 241 you installed on the mini? Did you shaved the side of the tire until there is no more rubbing?

@2cells1pack

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t recommend it.

@Signetring54

5 ай бұрын

I have found that there is no way to avoid it. The rubbing against the inside of the battery packs was quite severe. The tire turns much quicker, but is also less stable while cornering at higher speeds. I had to hold on for my life while the death wobbles took over. I was able to ride it through, but I was quite shaken up through the experience. The OEM tire seems to have more road contact, but harder steering.

@2cells1pack

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, the stock tire was pretty good.

Did you play with the suspension settings at all? Also did you prefer one tire over the other?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

not yet. this was just a quick first impressions. There doesn't seem to be that much adjustment ability compared to the patton.

@ullle66

Жыл бұрын

You can only make the suspension more stronger and make the rebound slower. On both lowest settings, i mean most soft suspension amd most fast rebound this wheel for me, a 100kg guy, does not bottom out at all and is exacctly right, not to soft, not to hard. The shocks definitely have more power than the 66lbs Patton….

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

that's really good to know. I definitely don't need it stronger, or need less rebound hahaha.

I have the Patton and really love the torque. But i find it quite top heavy and seems a bit wobbly compared to rs19 and other wheels I’ve had. I was curious if the commander mini is more stable?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

All 16" wheels will be more wobble susceptible than their 18/20" counterparts. Commander Mini and Patton both required a little time to acclimate to center of gravity in order to reduce wobbles.

@360vroomers

Жыл бұрын

@@2cells1pack I understand. Between commander mini and patton, is either one more stable / less wobbly? With patton, I find it a bit scary to ride seated.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

I think they're equal imo.

@360vroomers

Жыл бұрын

@@2cells1pack I see. Thanks!

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

I just rode the Patton again.. i think they're actually closer than I envisioned in terms of torque. May need to do a side by side test as human brains are bad at objective memory recall.

that is a LOT of torque. for me mini i can get it into my locker in my work or my gym...

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

It is a good small package

what kind of speeds can you see? top speed vs reliable continuous speed

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Commander mini can do 70-80 without issue.

What spring were you running on the Patton again? I thought it was the 62 not the 66, correct as would explain the bottoming to some extent.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

We had both the 62 and 66lb springs

@stevorun9865

Жыл бұрын

Great review BTW! I’m looking at the Patton and I’m 5’11”/ 205lbs w/o gear. Not sure what you weight but did the 66lbs spring still bottom on you? I appreciate your help. (Ps great v12 wheel change video and I refer it all the time)

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

I weigh 240

It can be pain finding the right tube, especially if you need a forty five degree angle valve, they can be expensive from the manufacturer ie begode, would you do a tubeless tire convertion on your channel to a newer wheel. Marty did one on a mten but i was hoping to see it done on a larger wheel. Gives people other options, i m going to be doing one on my ex20.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

I personally prefer tubes if I’m being honest. Did some conversions on master pro, but never felt the need to do on other wheels

@BillyGlyde108

Жыл бұрын

@@2cells1pack I was just related a story of someone who had a tubeless tyre and was on a track and the tubeless tyre came off and he got wreaked, think I won't go down that route after all lol

@SwitchUpYt

Жыл бұрын

Just buy a normal and a valve adaptor on Amazon you can switch out (they just screw on)

Can you guys do a tire change video on the mini?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Coming soon :)

Have you both compared both tires? And , if so, how do u each feel about them?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

We have compared them. Shinko felt a bit unstable at first, but after lowering the psi it got a lot better. In the trails, there were times that the road tire struggled for traction but the shinko didn't skip a beat.

@jonathan842

Жыл бұрын

And does it(shinko) feel as good as sherman(kenda) on road?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

The rim width does play a big role in how a tire feels under your feet.

If I am reading between the lines right - this is yet another Begode 16" wheel that lacks starting torque. Notice as we go up in voltage we lose more and more off-the-line torque, which seems counterintuitive. Why does my Tesla V2 and Nikola 84v have so much more snap than my T4? (don't say tire diameter - my Nikola has true 12-3 moped tire. Also don't say pedal height, because the Nikola has lifted pedals.) Let's see if they get the C40 Extreme right...

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

we lost responsiveness becuase of battery safety. Wheels prior to the RS were not software capped in current which was a leading factor of battery fires.

@Gh-qu1iq

Жыл бұрын

also weight. Add 25lb sandbags to a nikola and see how responsive it'll become

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Also, I noticed today that commander mini is using old style voltage - where the patton is using current mode similar to ex30. This could be the difference in response.

good work you two... excellent conclusion.. patton = soft tech. trail riding Mini = everything else minus that 10 percent soft cushy Tech Trail riding the build quality looks amazing for the Mini... really interested in it keep up the good work

Is the color bling bling more expensive than the regular silver 😮. Nice wheel.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

yeah it is. it's quite expensive.

@ajibub3622

Жыл бұрын

😕

In the US, the price difference between the patton is $300 from ewheels

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was just a ballpark figure. Prices will vary by region

Where can we order the pads u have on the mini

@2cells1pack

9 ай бұрын

Those are the clark pads. you can find them at clarkpads website.

A video explaining how to adjust the suspension would be nice, because there is no manual explaining anything right?

@2cells1pack

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, unfortunately no manual for any of these devices. I also don’t have this wheel anymore so it’ll be hard to make the video

Very entertaining to watch you guys riding on the trail. Where is this trail?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

That would be dead moped in SFU

It’s 5 kg lighter than Patton. And it is sooooo important for me. So we are waiting for commander

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

It’s also all metal construction ! except the top cover

So the 134v vs the 126v of the patton.. mean shit ? Like.. is it only the top stpeed what you gain with a 134v ? I thought 134v meant more torque. Im confused now.. why is everyone so obsessed with 134v ?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Assuming all else is equal (motor design, magnet width, etc) Higher Voltage = more top speed Higher Current = more torque

Patton or Mini Pro 😳.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

It depends on what you want to use the wheel for and how big of a rider you are

Please long term impressions is needed! 😅

@2cells1pack

4 ай бұрын

Sorry we don’t have the wheel anymore

If you knew how to make a cast from your own leg you can make your own padding.

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@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Hm?

The Commander Mini is way way better than the overhyped, more expensive and slower Patton . I don’t see it as an underdog at all. It’s just the better wheel.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

I see it as an underdog because of the fact that ExtremeBull is put in a limelight compared to the LeaperKim/Begode brands. It doesn't get the same love and attention that the other two get.

I don't understand. You say the patton is much more responsive and torquey yet all the other testers say that the mini is more powerful and has a better ride than the patton. I WAS gonna get the patton. Regardless of the price the mini has better specs. This is the first "first" impressions where the response was "bleh" on the reception of the wheel. You both didn't seem too excited like the other riders were. I just find that interesting.

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

A lot of it has to do with relative perceptions. We rode commander mini after Patton and ex30. Didn’t feel that the wheel was mind blowing, but maybe we are just spoiled. I do think the commander mini is better bang for buck than the patton

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

However if you’re a lighter rider, the Patton will be more comfortable. If you are a heavier rider, the commander Mini will be more comfortable.

@2cells1pack What pads were you guys using on the review?

@2cells1pack

Жыл бұрын

Clark pads

Как раздушить его, 45 максималка?

@2cells1pack

9 ай бұрын

Do you mean max speed?

@cool4377

9 ай бұрын

@@2cells1packда, выше 50км/ч не едет. Пищит при 45км/ч

@cool4377

9 ай бұрын

@@2cells1pack у меня такое же колесо. Должно разгоняться до 80км/ч.

@2cells1pack

9 ай бұрын

yes, check your alarm settings

@cool4377

9 ай бұрын

" wheellog" - в этом приложении не получается. А продавец со мной не хочет общаться.