I was born in leningrad (now st. Petersburg, russia)..my dedushka(grandpa), is from Minsk Belarus..all of his family was massacred by the nazis there..this movie depicts that atrocity as close as any movie can..i watched this movie one time with my 27 year old son..after avoiding it since 1985 (when I was 15)..and I will never EVER watch it again

Biggest difference between Saw and this film is that this actually happened

@EvolvedParasite

3 жыл бұрын

The scary thing for me is this kind of thing can happen again. Human nature.

@s.f7778

3 жыл бұрын

God forbid

10/10 for me.Masterpiece.

I agree that the 20 min portion does drag but I can’t say it affects my score at all. One of the best movies of alltime in my opinion.

@amandarios448

3 жыл бұрын

One thing to keep in mind. Today we have sound engineers, we have test audiences, there are psychological experiments and guidelines that tell us how long a person can hold attention, or how long a scene should be to not become boring. We know a lot. Cinema is a lot more scientific, we know what cameras to use. Anyway. This was done over the course of maybe 7+ years so it's much older than the release date. So, to get all of those things nearly perfect, back THEN in the 70s 80s is an absolute accomplishment. I lived this movie. Awesome

@ricardocima

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandarios448 That's interesting but who uses that? Would Antonioni or Tarkovski use it? I doubt it.

@courtneyvaldez7903

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandarios448 Art isn’t science. The technology of filmmaking gives the process a scientific element(s), but the overall composition is art, and therefore has no definite rules.

Seven Samurai use to be the release that everyone always recommends for the essential Criterion Collection release, but I think that has changed. Come and See, in my opinion, is a perfect film and if you had to own one Criterion release, it should be this one.

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

It’s an important release for sure

@rupertberr

3 жыл бұрын

I own both.

@tubthump

3 жыл бұрын

@@rupertberr no UK releases unfortunately

@simonmcpartlin6547

2 жыл бұрын

@@tubthump I have it in the UK and it is multi region despite suggestions to the contrary in some sources. Amazing but harrowing film to watch. Criterion have done a fantastic job restoring it.

@tubthump

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonmcpartlin6547 is yours a 2 disc version, digital restoration by mosfilm?

...a nightmarish masterpiece...

Devastating brilliance . . . gut-wrenching.

They can't make movies like this today. I consider it a lost art. All we get now are damn superheroes movies, whitch I can't watch.

@andreraymond6860

3 жыл бұрын

And yet we got 'Son of Saul' a few years ago. Another serious and balanced reflection on the Holocaust.

@torepedersen3109

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently, George Lucas once said that the censorship of cinema in the Soviet Union was nothing compared to the censorship in Hollywood, in the sense that in Hollywood profitability is all that matters so any idea that is outside the norm just doesn't get financial backing and will never be made into a movie. I absolutely get his point.

@olgaluna6447

3 жыл бұрын

Watch Panfilov's 28

@giggling_boatswain

3 жыл бұрын

You have discovered a unique layer of Russian films about that war. There is a different mentality. 27 million dead Russians. 27 !!!!!!!!!!!

@user-mj8gv8pl7v

3 жыл бұрын

@@giggling_boatswain russian movies nowadays are shitty, only about dramas and shit love story

The bog scene was filmed in the real Belorussian bog. The cow scene was filmed with the real cow shot by a live ammunition from a real MG .

@pamelaleigh4225

5 ай бұрын

I read elsewhere that the cow was killed by the filmmakers, but was not shot.

Great review! I'm really enjoying our content. Thank you. I just picked this up and watched it last week and wow. It is a terrifying, harrowing, and important piece of film and truly conveys the power of cinema.

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

thank you! completely agree.

Best film that criterion. Released in 2020 and they released a Bruce lee set. That’s saying somethjng. EVERY criterion owner should own this film in their collection

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

it’s definitely my favourite release of the year so far

I made the worst and best decision of my life one day after I was coming down off of an ecstasy buzz and if you’ve ever taken it you know the comedown is really heavy on your body and your mind, so me being the edgelord I am, I threw on this movie on the tv and it was the the craziest thing I’ve ever watched. What a way to experience it. I bought the criterion and am going to watch it over the Christmas, without the drugs of course.

I`ve seen interview with Aleksei Kravchenko where he told that for several scenes in that movie make-up designer literally glue up his mouth so he could not open it. That is why his facial expresions at the final scenes so scary and creepy.

Heavy film. But all people need to see it. It's a brilliant job. Taking off my hat.

Hi! I will clarify the information about this film: the Director did not need any additional funds and fantasies to make this film like this. This is our real story! And our grandparents told us about it. During school, every class fought for the honor of coming and worshipping these places in Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia, where hundreds of thousands of innocent people died. Only for the fact that our country has the largest territory, for the fact that our land is full of natural resources. And while in the West, schoolchildren were concerned about how to fuck their classmate or earn a lot of money for any garbage, in Russia, schoolchildren studied the history of their country, built it, protected it , and honored the memory of their innocently killed ancestors! Do you think there is a difference between our values? There is, there will always be! We don't need any extra tricks to make movies like this. We show you our real history and warn you: this can happen to you too. Watch another movie: "Аnd the dawns are quiet here" version of 1972.

@user-mj8gv8pl7v

3 жыл бұрын

But its sad because modern Russian movie is shit and boring,

Aleksei kravchenko did a great job

The reason this movie is so impactfull is because it doesn't portray the nazi's as super villains. A lot of WWII movies act as if the nazi's just fell out of the fkn sky and started doing evil shit just for the sake of it. This movie shows that the holocaust was about human failure and that we humans are capable of these despicable things. By portraing the nazi's as humans you essentialy tell the audience "this could have been you 75 years ago." . Movies like schindler's list basically tell the audience "If you feel sad watching this movie you are one of the good guys". I think a movie dealing with this subject matter should point at the audience and tell them that they did this. During the scene where the SS round up all the villagers we see a lot of bullying, ridiculing and mob mentality. This to me was the best part of the movie, because it showed behaviours that we see every day and which we often encourage or ignore. What's scary is that those SS soldiers share personality traits with people we all know. eople who are angry and frustrated and desperatly want to find an excuse to be violent (The law and order kind of person.). You will often find these people saying stuff like "bring back the death penality and all drug dealers should be shot". But in reality as show in this movie whenever these people are given the oppertunity to validate their anger and take it out on 'deserving' people they chicken out. They have to tell themselfs that what they are doing is justified. They therefore buy willingly into the propaganda. We see the SS soldiers constantly drunk and only capable of these things when under immence peer pressure. They are cowards. I dunno..... I guess your angry right-wing uncle would have been killing jews 77 years ago. I just had to write this sh*t , lol.

@enniokingston7325

3 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Strudel i have no idea. I just feel really passionate about this movie. I was just rambling a bit.

@irishclams4all677

3 жыл бұрын

"this could have been you 75 years ago." Agreed. This is on of the many reasons why this film is so important. If any of us were born and raised in nazi Germany, would we have been the same? It's a scary thought, but this film forces you to think about it.

@echoplots8058

3 жыл бұрын

I'm german and my grandfather fought in the russian campaign. Some things he told us were eerily similar to what this movie portrays. Yet I never felt blamed in any way when I watched this movie. I never felt resentment or guilt. It's not propaganda. It just shows what happened. And it should never happen again.

It is strange to hear a comparison with the GULAG archipelago. Solzhenitsyn collected legends and myths, and his works can be safely divided by ten to correspond to reality.

@sergeykoss

3 жыл бұрын

it should be more like multiplied ... by zero

@championknife

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergeykoss Солженицина на ноль помножить? Таки поздно помер.

@sergeykoss

3 жыл бұрын

@@championknife в исходном сообщении речь про его "труды", высосанные из пальца, или откуда он там насасывал. Мой ответ тоже про эти самые "труды" - ценность содержания которых нулевая, хотя сам факт их существования достоин, конечно, музея идиотии и предательства

@championknife

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergeykoss мне инглишь недоступен , и по этому ирония непоняина, поэтому перешел на русский. Это смотрел? kzread.info/dash/bejne/dmaYt6STZ6TJo7Q.html

@sergeykoss

3 жыл бұрын

@@championknife это, конечно, странно с твоей стороны говорить о недоступности английского и, при этом, писать сообщения на английском языке. В ответ на твое сообщение (на английском языке), в котором ты утверждаешь, что содержание его "трудов" надо поделить на десять, чтоб оно соответствовало действительности, я возразил, что эти самые труды надо, скорее умножить на ноль. Кто-то, конечно, возразит, что нельзя же так, пусть там что-то где-то неверно сказано, что-то перепутано, но это же, якобы, не может является причиной отправить сей "великий" "труд" на помойку. На что можно ответить, что ложка дегтя бочку меда портит. Однако, в данном случае от бочки меда, только бочка, а содержимое этой бочки с дегтем сравнивать - есть оскорбление для дегтя. Потому как содержимое этой бочки - испражнения извращенного разума, сборник фекалий воспаленного сознания. По поводу приведенной ссылки - не смотрел, может гляну как нибудь, спасибо. Пару серий смотрел с Жуковым и Майснером - этим вот точно памятник надо ставить, ведь погружались они в это дерьмо не для себя любимых, а чтобы спасти хрупкий разум особо впечатлительных и доверчивых граждан от разложения. Хотя, некоторым даже такого подробнейшего разбора не то, чтобы будет мало, скорее он им уже не поможет.

great review. Best war movie in my opinion. Everyone shold shee this. I bought my copy.

this is the best channel ive found in a very long time. loved the video and the commentary

I think what you have missed is the theme of helplessness which is even hinted at through the film's title (which I think was poorly translated). In Russian language go, come, wander are basically the same word, and wander would be perhaps the best translation. Flera through the course of the film is wandering aimlessly through these apocalyptic scenes and he can't do anything about it. In fact, no one can as we don't live in a superficial world with magical heroes and romantic knights who can save the day. The most crushing part of the film (well IMO at least) is in its fatalistic helplessness and realistic insignificance of an individual

@lynnspring2378

2 жыл бұрын

The film’s title comes from a line from the Book of Revelation. “And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.”

This film shows real events in the village of Khatyn. About Khatyn massacre. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatyn_massacre Khatyn was a village of 26 houses and 156 inhabitants in Belarus, in Lahoysk Raion, Minsk Region, 50 km away from Minsk. On 22 March 1943, almost the entire population of the village was massacred by the Schutzmannschaft Battalion 118 in retaliation for an attack on German troops by Soviet partisans.

I’m so glad to hear I’m not the only person who watched this more than once. I was able to put things into context, not that it was less horrific the second time.

Superb reflection. Just watched this last night for an upcoming marathon vid, jaw dropping stuff man. That initial VHS footage or whatever looks awful hahaha. The Criterion blu-ray is gorgeous (can’t imagine watching it any other way lol)

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot man! looking forward to your next marathon video. also yeah that VHS transfer was less than passable for a movie this visual ahah.

of interest is the fact that the actor playing in the film of the commander of the Sonderkommando during the war years served in the troops of the SS

Love this review! Keep this up you've got something good here :)

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

thanks man!

A Masterpiece

12:34 what is worse than the eastern front?

You guys should read about Dirlewanger SS! That is German SS penal battalion and they are the bastards who committed atrocities like that in Belarus as shown in the movie.

@donaldkepple4927

3 жыл бұрын

Bastards is to good of a word for a bunch of monsters that were cowards

@user-no9eg5ho5c

3 жыл бұрын

Well, such things in the territories of the USSR occupied by the Germans, not only the Dirlewanger division was engaged in. The same atrocities were committed by Ukrainian nationalists, in particular the SS division Galicia and special security units type 118 of the Ukrainian schutzmannschaft guilty of burning the village of Khatyn together with all the inhabitants, as well as Estonian and Latvian SS units. There were hundreds of such units and all of them were supervised by the SS and Wehrmacht command. Operations to intimidate the civilian population of the USSR, which were conducted by these units of 10 thousand, the victims after these operations are millions.

@GreatRetro

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-no9eg5ho5c Heh, I like how you spoke about all these nations fighting for the Germans but modestly didn't mention a thing about a WHOLE ARMY OF RUSSIAN COLABARATORS FIGHTING FOR THE SS!!! ^_^

@user-no9eg5ho5c

3 жыл бұрын

@@GreatRetro There were no Russian national SS units. The Russian liberation army was formed, consisting of collaborators under the leadership of the traitor General Vlasov and was part of the Wehrmacht. But even this army was not 100% ethnic Russian, this unit included representatives of more than 100 nationalities.

@TheFatMob

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-no9eg5ho5c But there were, for example, 1-st Russian National SS Brigade unger Gil-Rodionov (later defected to the Soviet partisans), various SS Grenadier divisions and SS Cossack Divisions.

The criterion collection does not have 5.1 surround sound or 3.0 front speaker surround, or even 3.1. The audio is in mono as when it was released, however, viewing experiences have changed then and there was a 5.1 remix made years back., probably something that they made with Foley sound to get an immersive effect. The criterion collection does not have any of these audio tracks making it a real miss. The bit rate and 2K upscale are very impressive though.

This movie has nothing to do with that piece of shit book you mentioned my friend...yes that book "gulag archipelago"...other than that i agree with everything you said about the movie.

1) Русские мультфильмы с английскими титрами: kzread.info/head/PL57xSqmjd8o9UUBmBt-EntZMkgtJGFe5C 2) Русская комедия с субтитрами: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2lk07ZykrqYgdI.html 3) Русская комедия с субтитрами: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIJ2qdCPj6yqcpc.html 4)Русская комедия с субтитрами: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fI5hxMyGh9iopJc.html

Is the movie in Blu Ray with English subtitles?

Nice review ! Try "pharaoh's army 1995" next it's the most underrated movie in cinema and very similair to come and see.

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

thanks! will definitely check it out

Excellent review

i have a question does this play on region B blu ray player ?

I can watch torture porn and movies like that all day but this movie hits me hard like a ton of bricks. It’s my favorite movie and I’ve only watched twice.

1:04 Wow I didn't know this BTS footage existed!

Good review of one of the top 20 best films ever made. To your point of putting oneself in the shoes of the perpetrators you may want to read a book titled “Ordinary Men”

@cmooremovies

2 жыл бұрын

i read that years ago! need to give it another look over

"If there is no God, everything is allowed." If everything is allowed, is there no God? "Mépris de notre monde, comme une fausse couche accidentelle, Aveugles, sourds, muets bleus au dessus de nous... " (Alfred-Victor de Vigny,)

Absolute masterpiece of movie making....it's more like a fly on the wall documentary....the factual content of the movie makes it even more surreal because these events actually happened, if you need convincing do a search on Oskar Dirlewanger who was head of the Dirlewanger Brigade 36th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, fact is definitely more horrific than fiction.

Great review! It is region B though right?

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

thanks! and it’s region A/B

@mymusic2515

3 жыл бұрын

Is this definitely region A/B as I was told it won’t play in the UK? Thanks

@elliot157

3 жыл бұрын

@@mymusic2515 I bought it. It is indeed region A & B

@mymusic2515

3 жыл бұрын

Jölk Thank you 👍

"The Gulag Archipelago" is a fantasy book by the way.

@christophekeating21

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the one you read was. Or maybe it says something about your fantasies It sure isn't something I fantasize about.

@Kenshiken

3 жыл бұрын

@@christophekeating21 I mean, the genre of a book is "fantasy". It's not a historical or documental genre.

@ninjatoriumnova2483

3 жыл бұрын

A better term would be "fiction". But yeah, it's a fictional story inspired by real events.

@alexanderprosto6487

3 жыл бұрын

@@ninjatoriumnova2483 Solzhenitsyn was inspired by other things. His work should be regarded as a terrible children's fairy tale, and he himself is not otherwise than an ordinary traitor.

@shodan785

3 жыл бұрын

@@ninjatoriumnova2483 well, come and see is also fiction yet here the gap between movie and reality is almost negligible while slozhenitizin can be compared to Baron Munghauzen. He was a populist that wrote an antisoviet book in times of cold war

Thank you for this video. And i hope you will read more author's and books about Soviet Union than Solzhenitsyn.

@cmooremovies

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! along with reading solzhenitsyn (and many other soviet-era authors) i’ve also had some schooling on the history of the soviet union.

@user-og1yd8fo7y

3 жыл бұрын

@@cmooremovies Impressive. We are not such monsters as can be seen in Solzhenitsyn. I wish you success in your work. And thank you again.

@ricardocima

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-og1yd8fo7y I don't think anyone reads him and thinks about the russian people as such. He was describing a regime.

I would say it's more anti invader than anti war since the Belarus resistance were willing to take up arms to defend their homeland. Very gripping film. I felt emotionally dead and drained having watched it

Смешно когда кто-то воспринимаем Архипелаг гулаг за чистую монету, а не как фантазии одного конъюнктурщика xD

the interviews in the special features... so the film is as close as you can get to portraying what happened. the interviews from the few people who survived and witnessed.... lets just say it makes the movie look dumbed down because it is impossible to put what they were describing into film. the film describes Hell. their storys describe a place worse than Hell

Почитайте книгу "Блокадная Книга" Автор Алесь Адамович и книгу "Я из огненной деревни" Вот это одни из самых страшных книг ❗❗❗❗

Do you understand why we celebrate Victory Day in Russia every year?

Yeah I literally just got done watching this film. And I often watch reviews right after to help me for opinions by hearing what others have to say. And that Bog scene was so confusingly awful, and disorienting. Incredible

"Come and see" is not a good translation from Russian. "Walk and watch" will be better title for it. That is how it sounds in Russian. And yes it is a somber but close to reality film about war.

@sorrenblitz805

2 жыл бұрын

It still works. You're essentially watching a slice of time in WW2. Come and See kind of evokes that sense of helplessness, because you can Come and See but you can't stop it and you can't change it.

@blakeray9856

Жыл бұрын

Or, "Go and look" The English translations of the Bibles I have also translate this passage in various ways, but "Come and see" is the most common.

Lies of Heroism - Redefining the Anti-War Film - KZread

Comparing the "saw" films with this film can't even be done. "Saw" films are reprehensible and exist as entertainment, and for those who enjoy watching torture.

and what do you know about the repressions in the United States in the 1930s and the labor camps in which ruined Americans were placed? What do you know about the repression in the United States in the 1950s (McCarthyism), when hundreds of thousands of Americans were repressed and imprisoned

@ricardocima

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@pamelaleigh4225

5 ай бұрын

I don't know how many were imprisoned (not hundreds of thousands) but they were repressed.

Вот щас бы сравнить ужас войны и киношедевр с выдумками СоЛЖЕнаицина..

Ахах. Ну да. Упоминание реальных зверств нацистов на русской земле, что бы позже упомянуть зверства русских к русским. Вы молодец. И упомянуть А.И.Солженицина... он честно всё описал: что половина страны сидела, половина охраняла, а ещё одна половина была расстреляна. Всё честно, как и всегда из уст американцев. П.С. И на этом я выключил видео.

Все бы ничего, но когда началось про чушь выдуманную Солженицыным, выключил.

I just watched this movie for the first time. The Nazis remind me of Trump supporters. Delighting in their hate and sense of superiority.

@NASAistheway

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@alabastersmidge4692

3 жыл бұрын

You’re insane.

@NASAistheway

3 жыл бұрын

But you may have given the Trump supporters to much credit. They are pretty much the poor man's version of them.

@enniokingston7325

3 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. A lot of these SS soldiers we see during that scene in the village share a lot of personality traits with your typical angry, law and order, all drug dealers should be shot kind of guy. But in the end they are cowards and can only commit those atrocities when completely drunk or under immense peer pressure.

@joygernautm6641

3 жыл бұрын

Alabaster Smidge you’re right Trump supporters are much fatter.

Let go of the Nazi thing all of this goes on regardless of the army.

@TheFatMob

3 жыл бұрын

But not on the same scale - like, 25% of Belarussian population killed - even if you simply don't keep your occupational army in check, you won't get such casualties. It means that population was deliberately massacred. You, probably, don't know about all the doctrines of the Nazi Germany regarding the occupied USSR territories, do you?