Nice. I have the 4 1/2 in 1849 Pocket from CBPAC and the 1848 model from Colt. I have the CBPAC WH Dragoon also. The 1849 pocket and the dragoon go together. They re a companion pair really. Good job!

Wow this video came out great! Nice job man! That was a fun little gun!

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

I wish I had gotten a little more shooting in, but that's a relatively minor gripe. I can't help but think I could force 20 grains of FFFg and a ball into the cylinder for that other test we did. I don't know if it would have made much of a difference, though.

Nice looking little pistol and interesting story behind it.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

I will say though, that the 1849 Colt is a much better gun.

Nice little gun! Looks fun to shoot! Although I prefer 44cal it’s still nice 👍

Great review! That little pistol is a beauty. Seems to be accurate as well! Interesting way of seating the ball, I was wondering how you were going to go about it, and it seems to work well, but a little annoying as you said. Again, great video!

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah. This 31 was by far the one closest to the point of aim, just a few inches high. I was going to bring a plastic hammer and a hickory dowel to seat the balls, but apparently seating with the arbor was the historically correct way of doing it. It is not as bad as I thought, but reloading takes a while, even by percussion revolver standards.

@blackpowdershooter44

7 жыл бұрын

That's great that it shoots close to poa, my .31 shoots at least 12" high at 7 yards.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

This one is about two or three inches. The 1849 was about 12 inches high. When I had a Remmie Pocket it was a good 18-24 inches high. Had to aim at the groin to strike a chest shot.

@blackpowdershooter44

7 жыл бұрын

18-24", wow. I remember in the video you made of your Remmie you had to hold really low to get the shots on target.

@leighrate

7 жыл бұрын

The barrel is long against calibre so it should be accurate.

good info

Saw pair of these in a movie about young Jesse James with that Irish actor Colin Farrell

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

The Colt Pocket models like this one and the 1849 were Colt's most popular offerings, even against government contracts for the bigger 36 and 44 caliber guns. A lot of soldiers snapped them up. Since Jesse started his gun career as a Confederate bushwacker, he might have been familiar with these.

That is cool!!!!

I really want one but I also really want the Remington pocket I'm so torn between them both might go with the Remington because it's a bit more compact and I have it's big brother

@professorpewpuew

4 жыл бұрын

I have an ancient video on the Remington Pocket. The one I had shot extremely high, something like two feet high at ten yards. It also holds only about ten grains of powder. These 1849 Pocket and 1848 Babies hold fifteen to twenty grains and all the examples I shot printed close to the point of aim.

@watchoutnwo

4 жыл бұрын

@@professorpewpuew thank you for that info man very informative I didn't realize those only held that little powder do you have any idea on ballistics for them like from what I understand the .44 new army with 30 grains of powder hits similar to a 38 from what I've put together and I'm just wondering if it would be somewhat efficient for self defence

@professorpewpuew

4 жыл бұрын

I have a ballistics gel video on cap and ball revolvers that you might like. I also have an article with the numbers. The 31 is definitely at the bottom with energy like that of a 25 ACP. The 36, even out of a pocket gun, is like a 380 but with a heavier bullet, and 44s are running anywhere from 38 Special to 357 Mag energies depending on whether you go with one of those big Dragoons or Walkers. www.ammoland.com/2019/01/the-power-of-black-powder-revolvers-black-powder-vs-substitutes/#axzz6JMnZiQSj

@watchoutnwo

4 жыл бұрын

I ask because I won't go into great detail but this is about all I can legally use for defence unfortunately I have the 58 new army 6" in .44 for plinking and home defence I want the pocket for my girlfriend she really enjoys shooting mine and wants one to carry for defence she's in the same boat as me for a paraphernalia charge a little over a year ago and can't get any modern guns I really appreciate you're help my friend

@acratone8300

4 жыл бұрын

@@watchoutnwo You can get a 45 Long Colt cylinder to put into that 58 New Army. Or even a 45 ACP cylinder. Howell sells them. Only for steel frame percussion revolvers, not brass frame. 38 special cylinders fits 58 Navy .36. 32 S&W cartridges fit the Remington baby. They usually just drop right in, no alterations needed.

Could this be used a concealed carry or any revolver like this.

@wildrangeringreen

3 жыл бұрын

why not? that was what Colt originally marketed it as. I prefer the pocket Remington reproductions personally, but the colt design works more or less as well. If you use Conical bullets, the .31 pistols are close to .32 ACP and .32 S&W, the .36 are close to .380 and .38 S&W, and the .44 are roughly equivalent to .45 S&W (all of which are perfectly capable for self defense, despite what the "tactical-timmy's" out there claim today). To paraphrase a quote from everyone's favorite spy: "if you pump 5-6 .32 caliber slugs into it and it acts like nothing happened, it's clearly a dragon". I know it's not a revolver, but my "deer pistol" is a single shot .36 that I load with 50gr of 3F and a 158gr cast wadcutter lol don't discount the old stuff just because it's not advertised much anymore.

Very interesting. Love that little baby!

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

Compared to its predecessors, it is a real baby. Perhaps even a pre-me.

@GunCollector007

7 жыл бұрын

mark3smle lol, yes it is.

That's NOT a baby dragon. That's a wells Fargo model

@207shooterz

4 жыл бұрын

rugerron67 Uberti has it listed as a baby dragoon/ Wells Fargo Whatever that means lol

@wildrangeringreen

3 жыл бұрын

​@@207shooterz the "Wells-Fargo" was a custom offering of the "Baby Dragoon" made by Colt to the Wells-Fargo Company. for some reason, Wells-Fargo didn't want the loading lever on theirs.

@BogeyTheBear

3 жыл бұрын

The gun in the video is some kind of hybrid, but what distinguishes the Uberti Baby Dragoon from the Uberti Wells Fargo are the cylinder notches: Wells Fargo uses square notches with lead-in slots, while the Baby Dragoon uses an oval-shaped cylinder slot. What makes the gun in the video unusual is that it has a round trigger guard (Baby Dragoons should have a square-back). Historical Colt versions of these guns were different in that the Baby Dragoon had a shorter frame: It was never designed to load on the gun (so there was no gap between cylinder face and barrel) whereas the Wells Fargo is just an 1849 with a deleted feature. Uberti cheaped out by giving their Baby Dragoon the same longer frame as the 1849/Wells Fargo.

I have both the 49 pocket and the Wells Fargo. I hammerd every round into that Fargo model with the butt and it looks terrible but shoots like a dream.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

I think the arbor is much more efficient. But if you want ultimate convenience, a specialized loading stand would be the ultimate setup. I don't believe in lugging such a thing to the range, though. And you can't really buy one in a caliber this small. It would have to be made.

this is my next one.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

I fretted over the lack of a loading lever, but it is not too bad.

It might be "slow" by modern standards, but it still represented a 500% increase in firepower. Also .31 might look odd to us but a 9mm is only between a .35 & .38. and in those days modern medical care didn't exist. Being shot though the body was almost certainly a death sentence, and being gut shot was certain death in 2-3 days from perontitis unless your incredibly strong and lucky. I suspect that most confrontations stopped when a pistol was presented at someone.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

I believe so, but when people see the reloading process, they fret about how they did it in combat. Well, it was common practice to carry more than one revolver at the time... because of that reloading handicap. I think the 31 is surprisingly deadly. We got it into ballistics gel. Should have it on the channel in a few days.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

That particular video has now been up for a while :)

Great! Just ram the screwdirver in there and get that barrel off.

Concealed carry, 19th century style. :) Hold on - I need to spend the next 20 minutes reloading.

@professorpewpuew

7 жыл бұрын

Eh. More like five minutes. But I can see why the Baby didn't sell well compared to the 1849 that came out a year later. A loading lever is a lot more convenient.

@paullytle246

6 жыл бұрын

mark3smle id perfer one of thes for the weight factor

@doranmaxwell1755

4 жыл бұрын

Well.. one could have a loaded cylinder or two and then it took like ? 10 seconds to reload?

@acratone8300

4 жыл бұрын

@@doranmaxwell1755 Clint Eastwood did that in the final scene of Pale Rider.

@wildrangeringreen

3 жыл бұрын

@@acratone8300 my thought is why are you still hanging around after you shoot 5-6 shots lol?

That is a Wells Fargo Not a Baby Dragoon . They look the same except the trigger guard. The Baby Dragoon has a Square back trigger guard . The Wells Fargo has a rounded trigger guard. Just Sayin.

@wildrangeringreen

3 жыл бұрын

the "Wells-Fargo" was a custom offering of the "Baby Dragoon" made by Colt to the Wells-Fargo Company.

@BogeyTheBear

3 жыл бұрын

Uberti doesn't make squareback trigger guards for pocket guns anymore, so they slap the round guard on their Baby Dragoons now. What separates a Baby Dragoon from a Wells Fargo these days are the cylinder notches: Oval on the Baby, square+leads on the 1849/Wells Fargo.

@BogeyTheBear

2 жыл бұрын

@@wildrangeringreen The Wells Fargo was a customized variant of the 1849 Pocket, not the Baby Dragoon. The original Baby Dragoon has a shorter frame and forcing cone-- there is virtually no gap between the cylinder and barrel. The 1849 has a lengthened frame to provide room for you to fit and ram a bullet into the chambers while the gun is assembled, the Wells Fargo is the same long frame but with the loading gear omitted. Why does the Baby Dragoon in the video have a gap betwen the cylinder and barrel then? Simple-- Uberti didn't want to make any extra parts just for Baby, so their replicas use the 1849 frame instead of the historically correct short frame.

J'aime la vidéo