Collider Jedi Council - Skywalker Story Focus Of Star Wars Episode VII
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On today's Jedi Council, Kristian, Mark and John talk about the Skywalker story continuing in Episodes 7-9, new stories for canon and is Hunger Games more anticipated than Star Wars??
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Guys, listen to the intro and tell me they don't sing, "Suck on these"!
@qwertify2314
8 жыл бұрын
LOL now I heard it!
@bruceelliot9856
8 жыл бұрын
+QLCHerald I thought I heard "Suck on me".
@yojimbodahut2748
8 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Thanks for implanting that! Lmao
@simonamorim1405
8 жыл бұрын
Then after that it sounds like.these balls.
@Scotchism
8 жыл бұрын
Cannot. Be. Unheard. HAHAHAHA
Now I love the original trilogy, but I don't hold them up as gospel like you guys do. And I think its awesome that you guys have that much passion for the OT, but for me, The Force Awakens definitely has a chance to be the best Star Wars movie to date.
@SteveMunguia
8 жыл бұрын
I think the point was that there could be a certain percentage of fans that are going to have very high expectations. Hopefully those fans don't have this notion that is "it better be better than Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi or bust"
@Foe-Hammer
8 жыл бұрын
+Brooks Wilkins I dont think the original star wars movie is a marvel like they play it out to be. in my opinion it is the weakest of the original trilogy, simply because the emotional impact of most of the scenes isnt as good as the other movies (except Obi vs Vader). The Empire strikes back i would say was edited the best, meaning every second of film isnt wasted. Return of the Jedi in my opinon is the best because more scenes carry more emotional impact (primarily everything between luke and vader and then with the emperor later on)
@peterthesneakybastar
8 жыл бұрын
It will definitely be better than Return of the Jedi and most likely A new Hope but I really doubt it will be better than the Empire Strikes Back
@julianclanton6603
8 жыл бұрын
+The Rockingbird . I might be the only one who thought this but I thought revenge of the Sith is better than return of the Jedi.
@ForthDaniel
8 жыл бұрын
+Brooks Wilkins i think people will just be happy if this film is better than the prequels
Love Harloff's relentless optimism. Also, happy born day!
I think BB-8 and Finn are siblings.
@JackCone
8 жыл бұрын
Ba dum tss
@peterthesneakybastar
8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking BB8 and Supreme leader Snoke
@megachippy8611
8 жыл бұрын
They do look alike
@Silverguise
8 жыл бұрын
+Máté Vajda Half siblings. R2 and 3PO had BB-8, and 3PO also had a fling with Solo's "wife"
@wilcats61
8 жыл бұрын
+Máté Vajda BB8 is a sith lord just watch
I think Han and Leia broke up the day after the Battle of Endor. She then had a one night stand with Jar-Jar Binks in which Kylo Ren was conceived. Meanwhile Han, on the rebound, hooked up with Mon Mothma, and they had a daughter named Rey. While force ghost Hayden Christensen having already eliminated his rival, force ghost Sabastian Shaw, decides to play matchmaker. He introduces Luke to Uhura from the Star Trek Universe. With J.J. Abrams officiating, Luke and Uhura marry, and later produce a son named Finn.
If Rey is a Solo, why the hell is she living on her own as a scavenger when she's of royal blood. Did she run away? Was she disowned? On the other hand, if she's Luke's daughter, and he's disappeared, that would make more sense that she's now on her own and fending for herself.
@cartmanfan4life1
8 жыл бұрын
+coolwhipspecial yeah the whole PRINCESS Leia thing is something that seems to slip people's minds a lot of the time. No one even considers the fact after Jedi that when Han and Leia hook up Han is going to be sitting in some throne room somewhere.
@xavidelfiorano
8 жыл бұрын
Wait for the movie
@drettlongstar2793
8 жыл бұрын
+Blake Walker She goes by Queen Leia now. Thats always been the confusing part to me. Is she REALLY better off in this desert planet? I think its one of those situations where Rey would be safer with Han and Leia and a military around her than suffering as a scavenger on Jakku lol... Seems like shes Lukes baby girl, but her just being a local and offspring of a character in the book would suffice. I was really pulling for Hux to be the big reveal as Lukes son.
@Nemoticon
8 жыл бұрын
+coolwhipspecial Solo's are not royal blood. In fact, Solo's are effectively 'no-bodies' coming from a slaving background. Leia was adopted and raised by the Organa's, so even then, her so called 'nobility' is not really legitimate.
@forrestsmith7773
8 жыл бұрын
+coolwhipspecial If her planet was blown up why is she royalty at all?
I love how you guys are so up to date. I just read that Costo Connection article yesterday, and now you guys are talking about it. I love it!!!
Rewatching a lot of these older Jedi council episodes. God I loved these days leading up to Force Awakens.
Yes! I've been waiting all day for this!
@austinguth692
8 жыл бұрын
Yes I've been waiting for this day for a long time - Kylo Ren
@proxalan
8 жыл бұрын
+Austin Guth don't be afraid Kylo ren
@austinguth692
8 жыл бұрын
+alan morton is it true your just a scavenger
@proxalan
8 жыл бұрын
+Austin Guth you know what I've come for.
@proxalan
8 жыл бұрын
Together we will destroy the resistance...and the last Jedi.
13:54 I agree but the funny thing about your opinion is every time you talk about The Dark Knight Rises you never forget to mention that it's not as good as The Dark Knight...
@ColliderLadiesNight
8 жыл бұрын
+evandest1983 And? Two totally different situations. My point was that a movie doesn't have to be as good or better than the previous film to be GREAT. A movie can still be GREAT even if not as good as the original. With THE DARK KNIGHT RISES... it was not a great movie. My problem isn't that it wasn't as good as the previous film... my problem was that it was a significant step backwards in quality and couldn't even be qualified as a great movie on its own merits.
@evandest1983
8 жыл бұрын
+ColliderVideos Well I disagree about The Dark Knight Rises not being great lol... but I understand what you mean.
@cartmanfan4life1
8 жыл бұрын
+evandest1983 guys, I...I like the Dark night Rises.
@BlankGreenCanvas
8 жыл бұрын
+evandest1983 The Dark Knight Rises isn't a great movie on its own. At best, it's pretty good - but there are so many problems within it and it blows my mind that people give many of the glaring issues a pass.
@oneaboveall2548
8 жыл бұрын
My Star Wars Mount Rushmore has Darth Sidious :,Darth Vader:,Luke Skywalker.Yoda on it.
Happy Birthday Kristian! You've really changed my life by getting me into Star Wars. Your show and anything Star Wars in general really gets me going through rough patches in my life. May the force be with you!
I just discovered this show about a month ago, and I absolutely LOVE it!! Keep up the great work!!
omg, please do a video of all of you guys at disneyland when the event starts lol
There's a few great female characters in canon. My list: 1. Asajj Ventress (Clone Wars, Dark Disciple) 2. Princess Leia 3. Ahsoka Tano (Clone Wars, Rebels) 4. Ciena Ree (Lost Stars) 5. Mon Mothma 6. Isval (Lords of the Sith) 7. Hera Syndulla (Rebels, Kanan comics) 8. Sabine (Rebels, Kanan comics) 9. Satine (Clone Wars) 10. Doctor Aphra (Vader comics)
@arbhall7572
8 жыл бұрын
+Máté Vajda How many of those ladies are canon still?
@arbhall7572
8 жыл бұрын
Garrett Sullivan Its good to see the EU growing in volume again. Thank you by the way.
@IvanCherganski
8 жыл бұрын
+Máté Vajda ahsoka? really?
@user-zh3zy3po4m
8 жыл бұрын
Ivan Cherganski Yeah, I like her very much. You can hate Ahsoka, that's your opinion, I have no problem with that. I seriously think that The Clone Wars was her show. It peaked with season 5. After she left, season 6 was just a mess. I don't understand why Campea hates her so much. Don't forget that she's just a kid in the show. Luke was a whiny stupid kid at the beginning of Star Wars, but he became one of the greatest Jedi we've ever seen. Ep 6 Luke is my favourite character in the whole universe. I'm sure you'll like Ahsoka in Rebels.
@IvanCherganski
8 жыл бұрын
Máté Vajda You know who else was a whiny kid? Anakin in the prequels
Ha! Awesome seeing my question on your show! And thank you for your in-depth answers
Don't think Domhnall Gleeson can play a super evil ruthless character? Check out his cameo as a serial killer in Calvary (2014). He's acting across from his actual IRL dad and the crazy sadistic vibe he gives off is chilling. Ruthless is certainly in his acting range.
When do you guys think the trailer will drop?
@tamani9553
8 жыл бұрын
End of this month? halfway through November?
@tamani9553
8 жыл бұрын
Borat69able what? They're gonna have to drop a trailer
@drettlongstar2793
8 жыл бұрын
+schmoesknow Oct 16th.. I've been seeing/hearing that everywhere past few days.
@djelite07
8 жыл бұрын
After I drop the bass.
@mladenkulic446
8 жыл бұрын
+schmoesknow Oct 16th
95% Heres my crazy theory: Han and Leia are estranged and split because of the death of their kid(s) a long time ago. They THINK the kids (also twins) are dead, but they were abducted by First Order or Sith (Order of Ren?) forces and raised apart not knowing their heritage. They are Daisy Ridley as orphaned homeless (Kira?)Rey and Adam Driver as Kylo Ren, First Order/Order of Ren(?) enforcer, and force relic Hunter. (Luke & Leia=Kylo & Kira?!?)
@langleymneely
8 жыл бұрын
Eventually the children will be reunited and revealed to the family (Skywalker-Solo) in Force Awakens, both positively (Rey discovering her heritage off of Jakku) and negatively (Hans death at Kylos hand?!) This creates genuine suspense and mystery, while being a great mirror reflection of Luke & Leia. Unlike the Extended Universe/ Legends material I think Luke grew into his power as a Jedi and NEVER had children, possibly fearing the childs future fate with the darkside. There might have been a Mara Jade, or Mara Jade-like figure in his life, but no kids. I also think Max Von Sydow has been Rey's 'watcher' on Jakku, keeping a devious eye on her development, the evil mirror Ben Kenobi. I'm dying to hear other people's thoughts on this? Am I completely grasping at straws? What are your plot theories?
@langleymneely
8 жыл бұрын
What is funny is the piece of info that helped me most was the dialogue from the Kylo Ren and Finn talking action figures. Kylo says "you really are just a scavenger" which I interpreted as him talking to Rey because he thought she was a Skywalker, but thinks not because SHE has no real clue who her parents are, until running into Han and fugitive Finn. Kylo is like the mirror Leia but adopted by the Empire/First Order instead of Organa and the Rebels. Rey is the analog for Luke, poor kid stranded in the wasteland only dreaming of more. I also got the idea she is clueless aout her parentage because i heard that she freaks out when she leaves Jakku on the Falcon with Han and Finn because she has never been off world before, and never seen a jungle or snow (types of weather from two of the locations in the film)
@langleymneely
8 жыл бұрын
***** Here is my thought on that, they get abducted and in the middle of the abduction the ship they are on explodes leading everyone to think they are dead after exhausting an investigation that leads Leia to think they are gone, and Han to resent that notion as he and Chewy fly off exploring every lead no matter what the "odds are" (sorry couldn't resist). That's how they split up. Meanwhile we learn it was a ploy to kidnap the children and use them for the dark side by what ever villain at that time (First Order, Empire, Knight of Ren, Snoke etc). The explosion was a ruse, maybe made to look like Solo accidentally shot the ship down, adding more tension to Leia and Hans relationship. This is just one spitballed theory i have. As far as when it happens, it could be directly after Leia gave birth, or a few years later when they are 1 or 2, just as long as its early enough for them to either have no concrete memories of their pasts, or just enough memory to be manipulated into thinking their parents were evil (which is more in line with Kylo Ren). Now how the two are separated and raised apart could be, as I wildly speculated, purposeful like with Luke and Leia, or accidental. Maybe someone secreted Rey away, maybe Max Von Sydow as this so called described blue alien confidante on Jakku? (Thats from a reported leaked bit of info from the last 2 years of SW speculation and prodding. in all its the best I could come up with. Watch not one thing I'm speculating comes close to being true! lol
@robertl5606
8 жыл бұрын
+Langley M Neely interesting! I like it!
@langleymneely
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
General Hux is the new Tarkin-esk figure. I don't know if he will live past 7, but I feel he will be taking up that Tarkin roll and will be dark as night.
Mark's subtle "It's a trap!" was awesome. Good job Mark!
Why do TWO people have to be related to Skywalker and/or Solo? How does that make it a better story? The original trilogy already had two twists regarding family. I feel like repeating the same gag would be to this movie's disadvantage.
I think I'm the only person who can care less about the hunger games. I think that series is the most overrated in movie history.
@peterthesneakybastar
8 жыл бұрын
Older people really don't care for either of those. I would say Avengers and Transformers are massively overrated
@JaayCeez
8 жыл бұрын
+Zero Cool Twilight is straight up trash
@Nemoticon
8 жыл бұрын
+Galaxy Trippin Why do you think you're the only one? There's a fucking army of people out there could care less about 'said' series...
@rammiine
8 жыл бұрын
+Galaxy Trippin I won't say they're bad but they aren't the most amazing movies in the world. I especially dislike Mockingjay part 1. What a shitfest.
@IvanCherganski
8 жыл бұрын
+Galaxy Trippin that it is. l remember watching the first movie and it was a poorly directed shitfest. people only fell in love with it bcause it wasn't as bad as twiight. Despite having and even more cringe worthy love triangle
Happy birthday! May the force be with you all.
I'm so happy you guys answered my question!! Like seriously I was freaking out. I really liked hearing your guys' thoughts on it. The question came to me because I was thinking about that Bail is out there speaking out against the empire...he knows more about the emperor than he should...so maybe the emperor tried to have him assassinated or something, or the other way around. Still, I'm glad to hear your thoughts on it.
Kylo Ren is a Skywalker.
@basedjebkush2760
8 жыл бұрын
Luke..........I am your son.
@AlejandroPradoLavin
8 жыл бұрын
+President Jeb Kush win
@reynaldomcwhiskey6689
8 жыл бұрын
+President Jeb Kush a jj style twist. ...hmmm intresting this is
@basedjebkush2760
8 жыл бұрын
Reynaldo Dominguez III I get goosebumps just thinking about the possibility....
@JaayCeez
8 жыл бұрын
+President Jeb Kush God damn!!!! You sir, you sir made me smile inside and out :)
30yrs is a long time for Luke to fall in love have kids and then have his wife/gf die off screen or just leave him because he's immersed himself deeply in the force
@mpwigen
8 жыл бұрын
+Marco Clarke Maybe a flashback?
@Lord_Clarke
8 жыл бұрын
Matt Palmer definitely a flashback even more than one or stretched over the next 3 movies
@IvanCherganski
8 жыл бұрын
+Marco Clarke but he's a jedi though
@Lord_Clarke
8 жыл бұрын
Ivan Cherganski I think because Anakin had to hide his love which lead him down the path of the dark side that as the Jedi master Luke would change that rule going forward
@IvanCherganski
8 жыл бұрын
Marco Clarke You can't just change the rules
Lovin that new wall crawl intro.
Harloff on Hux - “I think he’s a spy” Well he was right…eventually lol
i think Force Awakens is gonna be better then Attack Of The Clones.
@LaptopGamingDude
8 жыл бұрын
Not saying much, though
@qwertify2314
8 жыл бұрын
Attack of the Clones is the worst one.
@PoisonXLZ
8 жыл бұрын
+Hashirama Senju You are correct.
@gasmanoo
8 жыл бұрын
everything is better than AOTC even Phantom Menace imo.
This is the best KZread show ever created. I love it!!! Thank you John.
Tracks from TPM soundtrack released May 4, 1999 15. "Qui-Gon's Noble End" 16. "The High Council Meeting and Qui-Gon's Funeral"
Awesome episode! Loved that conversation about Bail Organa! Looking forward to see Claudia Gray on the show!
Yes! So happy that this is up!
Organa cally, that is comedy gold :D A Billion voices were mouthing along and then laughter.
yisss. have been waiting for this all day. got the people at my work who love star wars to start watching this show.
The original trilogy has a special place in our hearts not just because we saw it when we were kids, but it was also the first time that a science fiction film was cinematically ambitious. Before Star Wars, science fiction primarily consisted of campy low budget serials intended for children. Star Wars was inspired by those serials, such as Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon, but George Lucas managed to bring a depth and urgency to the genre that we had never seen before. Now that we've seen both the science fiction and fantasy genres evolve throughout the years, a new Star Wars film won't likely have the same visual impact that the original films did, which is why it's crucial that the story carries TFA like no other Star Wars film before it.
I am 95% that Rey is Luke's daughter. The only side-note to this is in the behind-the-scenes video that has been released there is a shot with Han and Rey in the cockpit of the Falcon and it LOOKS like a scene being shot. That might suggest that Rey is Han's daughter. I LOVE that there is all of this discussion, which is certainly better than what we had when the prequel trilogy started. CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
love this show. All of the collider side shows I am addicted to them all
Kylo Ren = Darth Vader; Supreme Leader Snoke = The Emperor; Captain Phasma = Boba Fett; General Hux = Grand Moff Tarkin. The villain slots have been filled.
I called Rey as Luke's daughter months ago. And with Kristian saying that, my mind exploded with happiness!
Love the new scroll at the beginning!
It's strange. I've never considered myself a huge star wars fan. Sure my dad showed me the original movies when I was a kid and took me to the new ones when they came out, and i liked all of them, but I've never been a hardcore fan of the universe. Yet every week, here I am. Anxiously awaiting Jedi Council. My excitement for the new movie has skyrocketed since watching this show. Seeing how excited they all are about it makes me excited. So thanks guys.
@hamzaisa3130
8 жыл бұрын
Get out of my head, that's exactly how I feel, I saw Star Wars as a kid thought Empire was and is the best but was always more or a Indian Jones fan but yeah I watch this show religiously.
Glad I found you kids, love the show!!
I have pre-ordered already for the Episode 7 Soundtrack! Thank you Birthday Money!!!!
Ciena and Thane were about 24-25 at the time of the Battle of Jakku. The Force Awakens happens roughly 30 years after that. So Rey could easily be their daughter.
37:05... love Harloff's reaction.
Star Wars A Musical Journey came out back in 2006 with the Revenge of the Sith soundtrack, I still have it somewhere, it's very good.
Happy Birthday Kristian!!
Once again, great show gentlemen! My SW Mount Rushmore, can only go off the movies/shows I've seen, so I'm leaving out TFA characters as of now. I'll revisit after December 18. Luke from Jedi, Han from Empire, Leia from A New Hope, and Kenobi from Attack of the Clones.
Really looking forward to seeing your chat with Claudia Gray. Lost Stars was such a great read. It's one of the best books of the new cannon.
Love watching you guys!!
Happy Birthday Kristian dude!
my favorite time of the week
thanks for answering my question!
Before the prequel trilogy, we were only given the story of Lukes heritage through old stories. They could still cover that as part of Luke's child's conception by referencing an older story as a possible reason for Luke's potential 'hermit' life. There was never a full real about what happened to Lukes father until that old famous moment we all love. That type of story telling could work again, if done right.
Legit my favorite show on KZread. It's not every day that you can witness other people who want to debate Star Wars! I love it! Debating like the Galactic Senate? :P
Happy birthday, Kristian. Thursday was my birthday, too.
Love you guys! Total Star Wars Nerds...
Finally read Aftermath i loved it nice fresh faces and just a hint of familiar characters and some characters who we touched on, cant wait to see more :) Mount Rushmore but just four then from left to right Anakin, Luke, Leia & Rey AKA Mount skywalker
Just throwing this out there, but I manage an AMC theatre and I am pretty sure that we have never put tickets on sale on Sunday (Oct. 18th). We have done Monday, Tuesday & Wednesdays...but never Sundays. Keep that in mind.
Happy bday Kristian!!!!
REY: "where are we going?" HAN: "We need to find your crazy uncle Luke"
Damn fine show guys! Keep them coming!
Another great episode. you guys are awesome
I can believe that there are people who know the final Hunger Games is coming and are excited for it that still don't realize there is a new Star Wars. Last week, Tiffany Smith said she has 2 friends who didn't know there was a new movie coming. So I totally can believe the results of that survey on current anticipation.
This show makes my day
HAPPY BIRTHDAY/EARTHSTRONG DARTH HARLOFF!!!!!! Loving this programme. Keep it up guys!
I did see the vid on schmoes when you fellas played with the yoda for a few seconds, but I'd love it if you showed what that thing can do on the show next week. I was expecting it the whole time when you started out talking about what it said.
great show. liked the Bale organa being in Rogue one idea
Hey, actually there was a version of "Revenge of the Sith" soundtrack from 2005 that included Star Wars: A Musical Journey DVD. It's very cool. It has Ian McDiarmid telling the Star Wars story and it's illustrated with musical clips.
I agree with John about BVS being close to Star Wars instead of Hunger Games. As Star Wars is to Kristian, John and Mark, Batman v Superman is that to me.
Love the bit about expectations- movies aren't publicly traded stock, they shouldn't be valued as such. Keep fighting the good fight!
Dennis Lawson has had a great career. I didn't' realise he was in Star Wars till much later.
Star Wars The Force Awakens will be the first Star Wars movie that I will ever see in the theater.
Happy Birthday Kristian! Today is also my birthday! :) Don't know how old you are but there is good chance we were born on the same day same year. Hope you have a great time!
Happy Birthday Harloff
A Musical Journey Disc was on the Episode III soundtrack.
Love this show! Happy Birthday Darth Harloff!
I 100% agree with john and his fear of unrealistic expectations. I personally cannot wait for this movie, I got two days off work to watch this movie over and over, but the point is my expectations will be checked before going in. I'm actually quite aware that jj Abrams isn't the greatest of directors, he's good, but not the greatest. My expectations are reasonable for this film, I'm just happy Star Wars is back. And I'm gonna try to convince my friends to think the same way.
THAT OPENING THO
I like the idea that Luke may now be a Jensaarai. It would definitely show that balance can be brought to the Force.
Regarding the Dark Side vs Light Side question, my idea was always that the Force is just the Force, it has no good or bad side. It is the intention of the user that makes it good or bad. So a good guy like Luke could certainly tap into some abilities that are typically associated with the Dark Side, without being evil. Luke certainly used the Dark Side in Jedi, like you said. I don't think he could have defeated Vader if he hadn't given in to anger in the end, which is also a Dark Side technique.
you guys are really good. keep it up.
I was wondering the same about Thane and Ciena being Rey's parents too. They are exactly the same age as Luke and Leia as they were born in the same year that the Empire was created and the timeline for Rey's age seems pretty perfect (obviously depending on what happens with Ciena in the next chapter of her story).
At 1:08 Kristian says something that they may be blocking from the prequel. They stated that the prophecy says that the chosen one would "bring balance to the force" perhaps Luke has found or is searching for that balance between light and dark.
John keeps activating my "hey Siri" feature on my iPhone6s at 1:12:00. Lol
Luke starts the Jedi Academy on Yavin, General Hux is Ben Skywalker, Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, Rey is Jaina Solo, Finn becomes a Jedi. Korriban may be explored in this movie or the next two, the Sith return in The Force Awakens.
HAPPY B-DAY Darth (aka Kristian) Harloff :)
The Jar Jar bones comment was flippin Hilarious. You were talking about retconning things..Please no time travel. I'm sick of it by now. Lets move forward. Thanks guys and as always, keep bringing that filthy!
great episode
revan was able to find the dark side light side balance to use both but leaned toward he light side
Star Wars 7 News is how I found out about Jedi Council. They're a great crew, I've usually got a tab open for the site. :)
MUSIC: Wait for the ultimate package! You can listen to the music on spotify... until it comes out... I hope?
Loving your new intro!
Happy birthday Kristian :)
Best night of the week :)
Non-canon (I think), but the Darth Bane books really explored the dark/light side motivations/stimulii. Dark side is driven by passion
Happy Birthday Harloff. :-)
The new intro is awesome
26:08 "you lazy piece of shit" man I almost died laughing