This week’s popular “Why Didn’t You Just” comment is, why didn’t I buy 5/8-11 threaded rod as use that? Because: 1) I wanted something nicer than that 2) I like to make things. Which is, you know, the whole point of this whole thing.

@benjaminshaw80

3 жыл бұрын

All-thread is for amateurs. I was yelling “make a draw bar!”. It turned out good!

@Blondihacks

3 жыл бұрын

@@wildin13 The ER closer nut thread is, but on the draw bar end it’s the Wild West. You can get all manner of posteriors on these things.

@matspatpc

3 жыл бұрын

When I needed a draw-bar for my lathe, I made one. My lathe has a tapered hole in the back, so I just made a taper-plug type things. Then I needed the other of M10 or M12 that I started with, and made another - which is a bit nicer, as I learned a little on doing the first one.

@bobuk5722

3 жыл бұрын

Ouch! I did say I cheated. And I like making things. Ones I can't buy cheaply. I'm running out of time, you see. Oh yes, and I have built and installed James' ELS. It's fantastic. Came up with a neat way of placing the motor and rotary encoder. BobUK.

@Mark6E

3 жыл бұрын

Good video. After making my ER32 drawbar, I soon cut off the morse taper and shrink fit the body onto a flange mount. It didnt take long before I wanted an ER40 chuck and turned one. Recut the taper to reduce any runout.

nice work! collet chucks are very handy. I'd suggest trying to index it around in your spindle nose... i bet you'll find a position of least error. mark both parts for future reference. also check the squareness of your matings faces and the end (back) of your spindle.

@petermurphy3354

3 жыл бұрын

@@DontCallMeGarage And we need more humor on the machinist sites.lol

@mattagnew206

3 жыл бұрын

I've also read, but not tried myself, that you can get a thou or two by gently rapping on the collet nut. I mean with a copper hammer, not quiet rhyming.

@dertom545

3 жыл бұрын

Aaaah, i see another collaboration coming ...

@Amerikanin2numarali_ustasi

3 жыл бұрын

love it!

@johnwhauserman

3 жыл бұрын

Yep what Tony said.

"hitting the small boss with a hammer" Practical and stress-relieving

@BrianFullerton

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there;)

@kensherwin4544

3 жыл бұрын

I occasionally wanted to hit my boss with a hammer but always managed to resist. Then I retired. Now I'd better not even think of bringing hammers and bosses in close proximity.

Another great video, Quinn. I especially enjoyed the 'Sparkle Spanner'!

@CTXSLPR

3 жыл бұрын

Send it to Bad Obsession to run through their cad plating rig

@robertoswalt319

3 жыл бұрын

She has great terms that she uses. I loved the name too.

I was really drawn into this project. Chuck this video into your top ten, and collet a winner. That's all I got.

@someotherdude

3 жыл бұрын

Bar talk, with a spin.

Tripod strikes are one of the hazards of KZread machining.

@danielfogli1760

3 жыл бұрын

God help us should tripods unionize 😱

@DavidLindes

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielfogli1760 I dunno... I’m working class, I think I’ll have to give worker solidarity to comrade tripod!

@leesoukup8787

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would only raise the prices of tripods, not add any quality of life for them..

Thank you for the censorship at 7:40! My mind goes straight to the gutter when watching machining vids! :)

@bwyseymail

3 жыл бұрын

We are all waiting for that tight slip fit at the finish.

@irishtino1595

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, I was wondering wtf that digital blur was

Just a suggestion. Go check your runout on the collet chuck again, then mark the position with a sharpie. Loosen the chuck and twist it 90°. See if the runout improves.

@Thebowber

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to suggest this, just keep trying until you get the smallest error, then mark for future reference. I spent 2 days machining a lump of steel down to make my own ER32 chuck that bolts to the spindle nose, I don't think it's any more accurate then the ebay parts.

@Blondihacks

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@dikhed1639

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thebowber Yes, I have made several ER chucks, different sizes, but now I have a new lathe and have to make some for a D1-5 spindle nose. Wish me luck, I doesn't have a mill to make the pins. I am imagining how I can make them with a 4 jaw.

@dikhed1639

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidwillard7334 ??Who is offering excuses? You don't make any cents

All that work you did on that steady rest payed off.

@BrianFullerton

3 жыл бұрын

Such rest. So steady.

@Blondihacks

3 жыл бұрын

It did! That thing is a joy to use now

@ratdude747

3 жыл бұрын

@@Blondihacks Now you need to do the same thing to the follower rest... ;)

Flat bottom holes, you make the rockin' world go 'round.

It is amazing I've had a mill and a lathe for some 25 years now, but I still learn something every day. Thank you for excellent videos Quinn.

Watched a ton of machining videos awhile back and your explanation is as good as any. Bravo for leading us through your hack.

Crap. Headed out to the shop to redo my drawbar now... because now I know a better way to do it! Thanks Q!

I like how you are down to earth and show some of the older methods. I hit hard times about a year ago and my dreams of a shop were put on hold. Now I'm currently hand fitting hardware store parts and 3d printed components to make a crank driven watchmakers lathe from one of those "modular Chinese lathe/mill/grinder/car buffer/can opener combos". Anyway, you show how you can use skill and patience to solve problems other people I have seen throw money at and go "eh, good enough".

I’m a simpleton. 1/2-13 stainless all thread cut to length and I was making other stuff. This is the “right way”. I’ll have to revisit that project.

Great video. It took me a minute, and then had to go back to make sure I was seeing you bleep out the finger job, absolute gold!

Hi Quinn, I had a similar chatter problem when trying to turn down a long steel shaft using a live center. I switched to a dead center and that solved the problem. My live center was a "high quality" Bison live center, so I was surprised but very glad to solve the problem so easily.

I am a total noob beginner on the lathe. My Dad gave me an old hobby lathe to mess around with. Most of the things on your videos are well beyond me at this point, but I love watching what you are building and how you do the different operations... something mesmerizing about it. Thanks for the great videos! Love the humor you pop in there too! Bye by mild garbage steel... ;-)

I have to say, you are one crafty machinist, well done, well represented, and a wonderful finish product. Your knowledge and thought to your work reminds me of Joe Pi who is a master at his craft.

I don’t know how you have lived this long with out one! They are awesome. I get grumpy when I have to put a chuck on my lathe.

@dikhed1639

3 жыл бұрын

That's right. I really hate having to put the 4 Jaw especially because it is so heavy and so much more trouble than the 3 jaw. the ER is the best but I have to make them now for my new lathe.

So refreshing. A machinist who know her stuff and is awesomely articulate! I’ve been using ER collets in sizes 16, 32, 40 for many years and they are my go-to holders, even for drilling, tailstock tool holding, etc.. My Jacobs Chuck suffered from isolation and being ignored... I fabricated a drawbar and adapter for my MT5 spindle (~40 year old Maximat Super 11). And, yes, they are used in my Emco jr.-sized MT2 mill too using their standard MT2 holders. I’ve also brought a trick over from my wood lathe I fabricated both follow and steady rests from in-line skate wheels. Eliminates the problems when following or supporting unfinished materials yet nicely controls chatter. Sorry I can’t provide photos but everything is packed for an upcoming and very traumatic move...

I made an er32 chuck in about 3 hours for my logan. It helps to have a threaded spindle nose. and it really helps to have a toolpost grinder. I had ZERO measurable run-out.

Hi Quinn, I find your videos brilliant, your attention to detail and your explanations without taking a breath are 10 out of 10 and easy to understand, gives an old bloke like me confidence in attempting more jobs on my lathe, thank you, Cheers Al.

I actually tried to build a drawbar a few years ago. Seeing your design i think i know why project went off the rails, Plus i have learned a few things too. thanks for sharing

Nice job Quinn! I'm off to give that a go. That's part of the beauty of our machines - they can improve and repair themselves 😄

Super video with great timing. I have been contemplating a collet chuck for a while and the information provided of the various types and advantages of each was just what I needed. Seeing a home brew solution is icing on the cake!

@dikhed1639

3 жыл бұрын

There is a guy in New Joisey who made an excellent series on this.

I bought an ER32 collet closer off of AliExpress a few years back. It worked ok but had excessive runout. I recently splurged on a Taiwanese one (Ann-Way, I think). Much better, negligible runout. Mine is swapped between my mill and my lathe, and when holding a cutting tool in the mill, the cheaper holder was only cutting on one flute due to the runout. I just use a piece of threaded rod with a handwheel on the end as a drawbar, because I'm a heathen. I turned an aluminium collar the ID of the spindle bore and have it double-nutted partway down so the rod can't whip around. I'm not a fan of transmitting shock loads through the headstock bearings, so I cut a piece of PVC pipe and milled a couple of slots in it. This slips over the body of the chuck, and you close the nut against it, holding the chuck from turning using the spanner through the milled slots. Pops right out of the taper like Yahtzee.

Thanks for another great video, Quinn. Your comment on the carbide cutters was also very helpful.

I learn so much watching and listening to you. Thank you for posting your videos.

Congrats on the new collet closer. I have a 5C chuck similar to Clough42's and I absolutely love having it. I have a D1-4 spindle and find myself switching between the 3 jaw and the collet chuck all of the time. I hope you enjoy your new acquisition as much as I have enjoyed mine.

Not sure what kind of carbide you're using, but a polished pcd insert for aluminum gets me absurdly good finishes in steel on a 7x14 lathe. They're cheap for what you get, around $5 a piece from eBay. It's ground super sharp which makes it easy to take accurate final passes on wet noodle machines. Likewise, ground inserts for aluminum give excellent finishes as well.

@johnwhauserman

3 жыл бұрын

You can always swap out your AC motor for a DC tread mill motor you will end up with a 2 1/4 to 3 1/2 HP DC Vs 3/4 to 1 HP AC motor. But only if you have steel gears. It will strip any plastic gears. More HP = Deeper cuts at the same feed rates if not higher feed rates for roughing.

The lead damper to kill chatter is a really cool idea! I'd hose-clamped wood to things, but the lead's mass is way more effective.

Great addition to the shop Quinn. Thanks for sharing and best regards from the UK.

Great video, Gwen. Many lathe operations very well demonstrated and explained. Thanks!

It has probably been mentioned before, but listening to your voice, I think I am listening to Martha Stewart......and I keep waiting for you to pull something out of the oven........this was a fantastic video and I plan on trying to make one of these myself.....thank you so much for making this......you are a wonderful presenter.........and very knowledgeable and talented......best wishes, Paul

I do love the sparkel spanner. Very well done...

@vaderdudenator1

3 жыл бұрын

Put glitter on it for maximum Jimmie rustling potential.

Some reason, none of my junk has the heart animation flowing off it. Must be because your special Quinn

I blew milk out of my nose at the pixelated 'Prussian Blue' scene. LOL! Note to self: Don't watch Quinn during dinner...

@dikhed1639

3 жыл бұрын

I saw that but could not figure out why she was pixilating it. Is it naughty? I loves porn.

Really useful project, and great examples of turning ops and setups for us hobbyists. Another great video, Quinn!

For this type of work I start with centerless ground stock and then put the follower rest onto the ground stock, that way, I have absolutely no chatter and do a nice thread on the end.

Great new tool there Quinn. Good job and well done.

Nice, Quinn. I just did something similar to that with an ER32 collet set I bought in China late last year. Really nicely made, 5um tolerance. 3mm-20mm continuous coverage in a metal case.

How serendipitous! I have ER32 collets and diverse paraphernalia in the snail mail network. Thank you and keep up the good work!

I added an ER 40 collet chuck on my Sheldon 10X56 Lathe. Runout is identical to the spindle to my ability to measure it. This is a good project! It is amazing how good of quality we get for what we pay for Ebay items. I often go buy a missing die or tap, and also often start a thread single point and do my test fit with a die, after which I always find the nut fits.

i came hear from clough42 love both channels

Well, this is just absolutely freaking brilliant. Why don't I ever think of this stuff?

LOL. I just notice the THREAD spools mounted on the wall behind you. Now, I immediately see that as useful, but it's not something many men would think of.

This is so awesome. Since I have the same lathe, I am learning a lot on how you do some of these setups. Don't have a lathe dog yet. Will have to make one.

Just found your channel! Love it. Love hearing you talk!

Flat-Bottom Mills you make my rockin' world go rooooound

Sparkle Spanner! Very nice.

Great video, I enjoyed it very much. I liked how you overcame all the little snags and limitations of your equipment. Look forward to the next one. ER collets are really popular in the UK. You can also improve concentricity of them by using a ball race closing nut. These are relatively cheap and incorporate a thrust bearing which enables you to tighten the collet down more. Tests show this positively affects concentricity.

Hi Quinn, Nice work today... Thanks for sharing... Take care Paul,,

Enjoy this as well as the steam engine series. Keep’em coming. Thanks you

I recently made a drawbar and one thing I added was a delrin doughnut, just slightly smaller than spindle bore, and a tight fit around the drawbar. Shoved it a few inches from the collet end. This way when inserting the bar it prevents the bar from dropping and scratching the spindle bore, and also centers it so it’s easy to find the thread in the back of the collet.

Loved the pixel blurring of the "naughty bits". Sparkle spanners are also essential for unicorn horn adjustments, so you got that covered too, lol.

Great video! I loved the subtle humor in the prussian blue segment.

Great video as ever. Just bought a similar collet chuck for my Myford Super 7 so will be using your design for the draw bar for it. Thanks .

Interesting that you are doing this project. I have just purchased a set of ER40 collets with an R8 holder for my mill. I also purchased a Brown & Sharp #9 holder for my horizontal mill so all I have to do now is get the Morse 3 for the lathe and I will be making a draw bar for that. I do have a set of 3AT collets for the lathe that are through hole but they are limited to 1/2".

Next time you need a simple spanner like that, get in touch and I will cut one FOC on my laser. I've made quite a few for friends and customers.

l love the way her vids start! l bought a red hf laithe, ive had their mill 4 years. A novice learning.

Hi Quinn, not sure if anyone has mentioned it but have you checked the collets for machining garbage?. When I purchased my ER 25 collets they ran off until I used a narrow blade utility knife to clean out the slits in the collet in both directions. I was amazed at the amount of junk removed. I also debured the inside edges of the slits with a careful wipe of a fine, small, triangular file. I went from 8 thou runout to less than 1 thou. I also made my own collet chuck. I have a Myford 7 series and it has a threaded spindle. I took a block, not unlike your mystery metal and cut the threads and facings to match the spindle. Then mounted on the spindle I turned the front of the collet chuck to match the dimensions of my 2 Morse taper holder including the inner taper and nose thread. I completed it with a purchased nut from China and I now have a collet chuck with less than a thou runout on a 3/8" end Mill held in the collet. Other sizes measure much the same. The advantage now is that I can pass material to the max of my spindle bore without any problem. Yes it's not hardened and yes it not ground but it has a fine finish and works for what I needed. I also have a 5C chuck like the one you showed. It works ok but had to be coaxed into being concentric and sticks out a long way . Merry Christmas. Ron W Canada

Lol at the violin case

@stevenschmelling5597

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe this comment is this far down the list. And I will also admit just before Quinn said that, I was thinking man it looks like she is disassembling a firearm.

This is EXACTLY where I was going with my lathe! I have a larger 100 uear old beast thats off brandedness leaves me with few options for direct fit parts. Now I'll definitely add it to the cue of lathe specific lathe projects, need to make a new backing plate for the one and only chucking came with. Because the current plate is cracked around 2 bolt holes, and a protector to go over the spindle nose threads.

Thank you quinn! I just came accross some old sb collets but finding the drawbar rig for a 11" series O is damn near impossible, this lays out a nice order of operations for me.

@RedDogForge

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidwillard7334 im all ears brother, where would you suggest i look?

Nice very well explained going to make one for my collet holder and thanks for saving me money 👨🏻‍🏭🇬🇧

Great job well executed

Great job quin, collets will come in handy for you.

Public Safety Comment: Quinn and This Old Tony went to the same "Blur the Saucy Bits Out" training academy. (purely to protect the innocent amongst us of course)

@TheLovewhite

2 жыл бұрын

my tender modesty was grateful for the pixellation but there was much polishing of shafts and other such indelicacies that maybe needed bleeping out x excellent work!!!

@WALLACE7084

2 жыл бұрын

Are you people series you need to get a grip it's metal work for god sake if people's minds want think sexual things they have a serious problem.

You will really like having a collet chuck. Quick and easy holding short parts even on threads. I ordered a collet chuck & collet set with my PM lathe. The chuck is the set-tru type and the 5C collets are very good. Using gage pins it gives better than .0005' total runout. I've only used the inside stop a few times but it works great, one of the advantages of the 5C. The disadvantage is how many collets it takes to make a complete set, but they get used on the tool grinder and spin index also. Thanks for the video.

Impressed with how much you get out of your lathe. I’ve got 4 at work and struggle a little with them.

I love your video's! Your humor is the best! 😂❤

Nice project. I made an MT3 to ER32 chuck all from scratch, including the nut. More for the learning experience than the actual "better".

@DavidLindes

3 жыл бұрын

Now to make some collets, yeah? :)

@matspatpc

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLindes Meh. Not sure I want to make ER collets. I have made several one-off "hold this thing that doesn't fit in anything". The reason I made the chuck for it is that I bought a full set from, I think 2 or 4mm up to 20mm, so I should be good for most things.

@DavidLindes

3 жыл бұрын

@@matspatpc cool cool, fair enough. I guess I just want to see All The Things getting made. And maybe do some of it myself, when I hopefully one day have a shop.

@matspatpc

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidLindes Sure. Maybe next time I can't hold some odd size in ER25, I'll make one - I don't have a full set of those, although so far I've not found something I can't hold with what I've got - and I haven't got an MT2 colllet chuck for ER32...

Got myself an er32 collet closer a couple days ago, probably same supplier, and nowIm here taking notes on how you did your drawbar haha thanks Quinn awesome vid!

Hi Blondihacks, Wow, have just found your channel I will subscribe. Very well explained. You are a very good engineer. It is a pleasure to watch you work. Thank you, JACK (Catherines husband) from the UK!

Very nice Quinn!

Nice job Quinn!

Nice. Very educational and well explained.

I did the same thing but just used a long piece of M20 all-thread and made a washer. Works fine up to my max 2000rpm speed. (Morse taper 5 for mine).

It's been a while...nice project. I love how you adapt on the fly.

Interesting approach. I made my own backing plate for my Atlas-Craftsman 12”. I have never heard of anyone using R8s in a lathe. Another advantage of ER32s over 5Cs is that there is more gripping area on the part being machined. Nice job with this video.

For the most part I prefer using college on my watchmakers lathe,although I have a good selection of chucks. Thanks I really enjoy watching your problem solving videos , stay safe.

Awesome job....may try it out myself

Great project, when I first started using the ER32 collets, I made a similar drawbar arrangement. It worked well except for longer work on my 7x14. I then found a ER32 collet holding faceplate. I was able with indexing on the lathe (quite a common practice on the Chinese lathes) to get about. 0006 runout on the parts, but as you know, will possibly change every time you change to a different collet. The runout has been acceptable so far, and I am not limited by the drawbar plugging up the spindle. The drawbar is less work than the faceplate to set up, but working with these machines, you get used to the diddle factor induced by them. Great work!

wow! u've been working in mechanical engineering 4 some time!! so informative!! U'r just a collet encyclopedia dynamo!! :) u'r so helpful...loved this vid!! good luck on future projects!!

Very nice work !

if you have a faceplate an you can use with collet, it will act like a flywheel and with it the process will work much better than collet itself

Chatter? and parting off? Invert tool and run it in reverse! Any flex in the tool is allowed and dissipated not compressed and exacerbated. So much time and anguish is caused by downward rotation. I like how well the reverse thread cutting went!! smooth!

Everythings coming up Milhouse thought I was the only one throwing that one around.

Nice work Quinn

Another great video! This is a great idea for a collet chuck solution that I might peruse.

Rooting around in the stygian underworld that is the cupboard space under the 70 year old Boxford lathes at work, I found a couple of collet chuck sets; I keep meaning to drag them out and try them - this has inspired me to do just that!

@Blondihacks

2 жыл бұрын

I do love a good stygian underworld

Just started watching you, at least you get on with stuff, most of the other machine channels stand and talk about crap. Go girl 😍

An excellent video as usual. I have one more ebay find you might enjoy. The "for aluminum" carbide inserts that are honed razor sharp and have loads of positive rake work wonders on our hobby sized lathes. I cut steel with them routinely and they are surprisingly tough.

@johnghatti5435

2 жыл бұрын

I know this is old but do you happen to have the insert number?

@brianmoore1164

2 жыл бұрын

@John Ghatti Sorry to be so slow, but I have been a bit swamped. I use several different ground "for aluminum" inserts and routinely use any of them on steel. Currently on hand I have: WCGT TCGT VCGT CCGT DCGT The high positive rake and razor sharp edges keep the cutting pressures low and the surface finishes smooth. Our small lower powered machines benefit greatly.

Great explanation on the ER collet Chuck. I am new to the lathe having just purchased a Harbor Freight 7 x 10. I want to get a Collet chuck.

Love your videos! My first metal lathe should be here by June, so I'm soaking this stuff up. Thanks :)

I went and checked out Clough42's video which was awesome. Then he said to check out Blondihacks video so I came back here. I am now stuck in a loop.

I really like this video, it will become quite useful for me with my home lathe.

Thank you for making this video i need some inspirations for my mt3 er32 collet chuck. Thanks again

Appreciate the mosaics during the explicit parts of the video, lol.