If my team doesn’t make the premier league, I’m not watching premier league. I’d rather listen to a radio broadcast sitting in a chair hearing the play by play of my team. No marketing can make me love another team. This is college football.

@PacificoLightBeer

24 күн бұрын

I couldn’t agree more. I’m not paying attention if they keep me and my team out of it.

@seanevans9329

24 күн бұрын

That's what going on deaf ears ..from T.v. executives, conference commissioners, media commentators, and fans from the Big 10 and SEC...

@wvgolfnut1

24 күн бұрын

Right there with you.

@scottduke2809

23 күн бұрын

i love this remark! 100% agree

@haroldflashman4687

23 күн бұрын

Of the premier league encompasses 80%+ of the fanbase, it won’t matter if fans of schools left out stop watching!

Since non-conference games will eventually disappear, all four ACC rivals of SEC teams should be at the front of the line. That preserves annual games played for generations.

yeah... not really buying him as a realignment commentator...more of just a random SEC homer... but he does see the big picture in one specific way that most don't when he talked about numbers.

@justadude99

23 күн бұрын

I stopped listening to him when he made arguments for TCU and Baylor. Either would dilute SEC member shares of media deals by millions of dollars.

Ok Cole, calm down. In your effort to appeal to a Texas audience, you missed a few things. Schools still do have to vote to approve additions. With the inclusion of Texas and OU, those were 2 massive brands that are unmatched outside of the power2. Plus TAMU had not made much efforts to build alliances at that time. If you tell me that Sankey is going to tell Texas TAMU to walk if they oppose Baylor or TCU, I am laughing at you. Same for the East, Sankey is not tell Florida, UGA, and Bama to take a walk for a Miami. Just not happening only person taking a walk at that point would be Sankey himself. That being said, I do agree with VT. Lived in DC and they run Virginia. UVA is often referred to as the wine and cheese crowd. They fit the model of the SEC.

VT to the sec get the va in their

It pains me to listen to an ESPN huckster. Cole is employed by the Death Star. He repeats everything that is pro ESPN and dismisses everything negative about ESPN. And what I mean by that is the business aspects. This is what college football's destruction sounds like. Isn't it great? Its been going on a long time now, longer than many realize. Remember when ESPN assassinated the Big East over 2 decades ago with their negative editorials and pieces extolling what was wrong with them, etc. etc. etc. And then the hidden backroom deals that tore the conference apart. Ever since those Big East days, I have said that ESPNs grand plan is to own a Saturday version of the NFL; and they've been manipulating a rudderless college football activity to its demise by picking the winners and losers that they deem will help them achieve that. After all, nobody is pushing back, are they? Essentially its the conference contracts that are holding them back. Believe me, its driving ESPN crazy getting where they want to be, and sooner better than later, as their business model is struggling. And guess what, Cole may not have a job next year. Cole is a good guy, don't get me wrong, but he does work for the Death Star, and they spare nothing.

WVU mountaineers, have 2 undefeated seasons, lost 2 times in national championship games. Beat osu in Fiesta bowl, georgia in sugar bowl, clemson in orange bowl. And yet we r ignored. Our athletics facilities our unmatched. We should have been in the SEC 12 years ago!!!! If we were in the SEC, our revenue and recruiting would rank in the top 25 every year. Stop ignoring us please. Our fan base is spectacular. Time too recognize.

@tarheel7406

23 күн бұрын

WVU is a low prestige flagship in a low populated state already surrounded by existing and soon to be SEC/B1G schools. It has no blue revenue sport and isn't notable in overall sports. WVU barely made the P5 cut, barely getting one of the last spots as that structure formed. The P2 will likely max at 24 each (48 total), so ~14 more. If we ignore the different preferences and priorities of the SEC and B1G, where would WVU rank in order of priority?

@fuckcensorship69

21 күн бұрын

Nah. Go to the big 10, yankees

@AnywhereRider

18 күн бұрын

WVU basketball adds to the equation also. Passionate fan base spread all over the southeast will put bits in seats. Wvu is happy where they are but the travel makes the Big12 an unnatural fit. WVU would also expand the SEC northward into PA, MD and the DC metro areas. It’s logical but not the first thing analysts see on paper.

@AnywhereRider

18 күн бұрын

Population of the state is not the way to look at the fit. Generations of west Virginians live throughout the southeast. If you’re in NC, chances are your neighbors are from WV. If you don’t believe me, ask! lol. WVU has proven competitive many times on the national stage. And the boundary edging north would have to be good for SEC programs recruiting PA or the NE. WVU looks like a fit to me

@fuckcensorship69

18 күн бұрын

Yall are yankees. Cant change that

G5 accepting a downgrade would be the dumbest move ever. Same thing was said about TV time back in the late seventies and early eighties when the I-A/I-AA (Now FBS/FCS) split happened. With that said, I wouldn't mind a two to six-school "play-in" playoff for that one spot. It would give excellent exposure during a slow time (1st two-three weeks of December) for college football.

The big teams will split down the middle… Clemson goes SEC, Miami to Big 10, and I don’t know where FSU lands, it’s 50/50. I think UNC may go Big 10 and Duke SEC. Notre Dame will go Big 10 because having an Independent will empower others to go Independent, so at some point a line will be drawn for them. Georgia Tech will be interesting, I think they fit with the Big 10 but I don’t think they want to go there. Both Virginia schools will be left hanging, as will Pitt, Boston College, Syracuse, and Wake. There are enough big names hanging around that a third viable mega conference could emerge, and the Big 12 has treaded water long enough to potentially become that conference. Taking in the remnants plus Cal and Stanford would be hard to ignore.

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

There will be no peer P3.

@purpleivory2

24 күн бұрын

Virginia Tech is more attractive than Georgia Tech

@richardbrookins5406

24 күн бұрын

Sorry but I do not think you understand the FSU fans hatred of ESecPN and their conference. YMMVJMHO

@jakenunya1587

20 күн бұрын

This is exactly the scenario I've been expecting for the last year or so. Clemson and Miami are set. ND will play coy, but eventually will join B1G. The rest depends on just how big the SEC and B1G want to become before they split from the NCAA.

@jjreider8668

10 күн бұрын

@@richardbrookins5406 so you think they’re Big 10 bound or Independent?

The more I hear about what the B1G and $EC might or might not do, what the tv networks want or dont want, the less and less and less I care about CFB. But hey, real fans will be replaced by the gamblers who are clearly the new set of eyeballs for CFB. they can have it, doesnt sound fun to me

~10:00 Yep, clearly just an SEC guy. The SEC has historically been terrible measured by academics and has never been so branded, hence the guest just discounts and ignores that consideration. Fear not, the word is that UVA has advised the SEC of no interest (again). A poor decision in my view given the current environment but does evidence how such branding can be of high importance.

@eujr4SC

24 күн бұрын

I think it’s hilarious. Mizzou, TAMU, and Texas are all AAU and are flagship universities within the state. All recent B1G expansions were AAU, Nebraska lost their accreditation after they joined. So obviously conference presidents, who ultimately have final say on expansion seem to care enough about academics.

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

@@eujr4SC SEC attached people discount "academics" because the conference clearly remains behind relative to peers. It just means less there. Anyway, I can respect preferring other options for the SEC over UVA, but not understanding any interest just equates to ignorance.

I would welcome the Hokies to the BIG, but it would feel a little like Philip Sheridan and Jubal Early joining forces.

Virginia Tech is bringing back a strong group this year. Wouldn't be surprised to see them make a lot of noise and be a playoff team.

The hosts like to dish on the geographically disjointed B10. How is that any different than the disjointed B12. What's the difference between UCF traveling to Salt Lake City or Arizona traveling to Morgantown, WV compared PennSt traveling to Los Angeles.

@TheLAGopher

24 күн бұрын

You also have an ESPN/SEC guy throwing shade on the B1G for having coast to coast conference games they won’t get to cover due to their exclusive deal with the SEC. They seem buthurt that the SEC can make power moves by expanding and getting a mega media deal but no one else could do the same.

@eujr4SC

24 күн бұрын

Doesn’t fit their narrative. B1G expansion is bad for the sport because of geography, but Big12 expansion will help save the sport. They have a great show, but it’s obviously going to have a Big12 bias, especially with what’s happening with the sport today. Now imagine how silly the argument looks if say Oregon State and WSU get invited to the Big12.

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

Moreover, the B1G will have the brand gravity to make a wide conference work while the BIG12 won't.

@CarlAdams-lc6oz

24 күн бұрын

ACC has even less brand than the Big 12 when FSU leaves. ACC is essentially the AAC.

@jansonroberts2616

24 күн бұрын

@@CarlAdams-lc6ozit would take more than FSU leaving.

It's gonna be 72 team Realignment in 3 power conferences of 24 teams per conference. The SEC, B1G and Big 12. Four divisions:North, South, East, and West. Six teams per division. Winners of all 12 divisions would get automatic invite to CFP. Go to 16 and add 4 at-large bids. This allows the P3 to break away from G5. This is the direction that they're going. BOOK IT!

@tarheel7406

22 күн бұрын

a) It will be ~48 total. b) There is no feasible path to a peer P3 unless after the consolidation, the P2 realign into a P3. c) There is no purpose served by a large and wide Tier 2 BIG12.

@mikem957

22 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 Watch and see.

@tarheel7406

22 күн бұрын

@@mikem957 I am watching and seeing. The new BIG12 is the worst P4 (by far) in athletics, academics, prestige and media value per school. The ACC will deplete out, but that will just result in the SEC and B1G improving on all factors. Since the new BIG12 isn't a peer major now, given the realities, how will the new BIG12 close any of those gaps and return to peer?

@mikem957

22 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 ESPN just gave the Big 12 a new deal that pays out $40M per school. They ain't giving away that kind of money for them to be left out. B1G is under contract with Fox and CBS. SEC is under contract with ESPN and ABC. They deliberately disbanded the Pac 12 and now they're gonna do it to the ACC. But the ACC members will all get a seat in one of the P3. As will Washington State and Oregon State and a few G5s like Memphis, Boise State, San Diego State and possibly USF. Most likely to the Big 12. It was all about consolidation. Like I said, watch and see.

@mikem957

22 күн бұрын

​@@tarheel7406 That must be why the ACC was shut out of the CFP and the Big 12 wasn't.

No way Baylor is picked up in realignment before WVU.

@thundergato84

24 күн бұрын

Baylor won't be picked up at all. They're a small private school with a small fan base.

@BigThunderMan

24 күн бұрын

@@thundergato84Baylor is in the hottest recruiting area in the country, top 40 by nearly every measure on athletic / media performance, natties in basketball, very highly rated in academics, and INCREDIBLY aggressive administration (they forced their way into the B12). I think they’re not the TOP call, but I would bet them getting to super league.

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

@@BigThunderMan BAYLOR is a G5 equivalent with good (but not great or elite) academics with no notable revenue sport or overall athletics. A Tier 4 private school. It won't make the P2 cut and WVU is unlikely to.

@jacobwillett4173

24 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 Baylor right now is a top 15 job in the second and third biggest sports money wise. 4 national championships between mens and women's basketball, and 3 Big 12 championships in football all since 2012 along with a Heisman. Do we get in, maybe not, but wed have a chance, which is all you can ask for

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

@@jacobwillett4173 BAYLOR is a G5 equivalent and was only included in the original BIG12 due to political force. As a private school, its not a Tier 1(ND, USC), a Tier 2 (MIAMI, DUKE, STANFORD), or a Tier 3 (CUSE). It's a vanilla private school that easily works in a Tier 2 and optional for a P5, but not in the new Tier 1 P2.

Does Cubelic work in a Day Care Center?

He was doing fine until the 10:00 mark. TCU and Baylor will never be in the SEC.

@TheWaltonVideos

24 күн бұрын

You’re a buzz kill.

@ronon3849

19 күн бұрын

Very true. Only Big XII schools remotely a possibility are Okie State & Kansas.

What does Vanderbilt do for the Big 2. Them Rutgers, Northwestern, Miss State, Illinois, etc. etc. Should be cut from the big 2. Let's move forward with just bigger brands.

@adamb6370

24 күн бұрын

Something people are glossing over here. The BIG/SEC haven’t really changed. They don’t have to. Founding members are protected regardless of their performance on the field.

@fuckcensorship69

21 күн бұрын

Miss State has had some good years. 10 years ago they were a top 5 team. If Mike Leach hadnt been forced to take the shot, they'd be a top15 team today. Meanwhile, Ole Miss and Kentucky have never even played for an SEC championship. Do your history research boomer

WVU is the Rodney Dangerfield of College Football 🤦‍♂️

@MrRobrice1

24 күн бұрын

WVU fans think they are a 8 the reality is they are a 3.

@patrickvarah5970

24 күн бұрын

@@MrRobrice1 we are more like a 6

Your gonna choose Baylor, TCU, or Texas Tech over Texas and Texas A&M should both those schools say "no"?

@tlobrill1

23 күн бұрын

Where is Texas and Texas Anm going to go? Their choice would be to play ball or maybe go to the big10. Wonder if they’d actually consider doing that. Doubt it.

@gregsimoes8645

7 күн бұрын

I don't think it comes to that, but before going to the SEC, UT thought they could go independent. The crash and burn that was the Longhorn Network should make even the egotistical Longhorns understand that they're not driving the bus anymore. I'm not sure if the SEC adds anymore Texas schools, but if they (or more importantly, the TV networks) choose to do so, then UT and TAMU have zero leverage. Although, a possibly more likely scenario is Kansas and Texas Tech going to B1G, Kansas because they have the best overall status/position in the Big12 (despite their lackluster football record) and TTU because it's a foothold in Texas and Tech has the best financials of the remainder.

Honestly if the big 10 goes out and get a FSU, TCU, UNC, along with ND the SEC will fall way behind in the revenue game. If I’m the big ten those the 4 schools I want.

@haroldflashman4687

23 күн бұрын

lol TCU? Seriously? Small school, low academics, no research and you think Big 10 will take them?

@kshaad9526

23 күн бұрын

@@haroldflashman4687 when did TCU become a school of low academics? Thats news to me. A lot of ignorance on your behalf. Brother do some research before you make such blanket statements.

@haroldflashman4687

23 күн бұрын

@@kshaad9526 seen TCU ranked between 98, and in the 400s! Suppose it’s 98, it’s not bad. But TCU had next to 0 research. The one think B10 schools are big on is research. TCU isn’t AAU, which probably isn’t as important but could be a huge factor. It’s got a tiny student population, no national or ever regional appeal. I doubt TCU brings in even pro rata value, let alone incremental value. Why would B10 add a schools that does not bring in at least pro rata value? And given that the aim of expansion is to increase payouts for all, why would B10 add a school which brings in even pro rata value? TCU won’t even be bringing in pro rata value. Why would Fox want to pay B10 millions to add a school with a tiny fanbase? There’s a reason why TCU was left out when SWC collapsed! It’s just too small a school to be attractive to SEC or B10!

@troywest7045

20 күн бұрын

TCU has a better shot of getting into the SEC.

There are a lot of alumni at these small schools that will show up or tune in. Not sure why they don't organize. As for "academic fit", that's what the PAC12 touted and look where they ended up.

@shallojalloh

24 күн бұрын

4 of the PAC school got promoted touting their academic excellence. USC UCLA UW & Oregon all got promoted to the B10. If those 4 PAC schools had B12 academic reputations, then they wouldn't have gotten invited. So I don't get ur snarky "academic fit" comment

@TheLAGopher

24 күн бұрын

People are throwing out rumors that Stanford is talking to the B1G about taking them in if the top ACC schools leave.

@tobipadwick6109

24 күн бұрын

I hope the SEC shares your thoughts.

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

Academic branding didn't kill the PAC but rather overvaluing itself.

@whmaxwell97

24 күн бұрын

​@@shallojallohthen you tell me how Stanford who has higher academic ratings then those 4 schools didn't get an invite? Academics was only a piece of it. Money was the big gain and Stanford never brought that. That's why they got left out. Yall need to quit it on saying it was just an all academic game because it was the never that in the first place. The Big 10 wanted AAU certified schools to get guaranteed backup funding that would help pay for certain things like staff in the schools athletic department that would then make it to where that individual schools AD could then pocket what would be spent money on that staff in their own pockets.

You’re destroying college football.

I don't think that ESPN has the money to pay the SEC more right now.

@troywest7045

20 күн бұрын

I agree, ESPN decided they didn't want to pay extra for a 9th conference game for SEC teams. That would have been much cheaper than adding schools to the deal, even if schools took half shares till the next deal. The B1G has locked itself into half shares for new schools until the next deal by adding Wa/Or at half shares last year, except for ND who is on the escalation clause in the B1G media deal. Regardless I don't see a sudden financial windfall for ACC teams switching conferences.

@jakenunya1587

20 күн бұрын

They will if they don't renew the ACC GoR in 2027.

If you kick the other teams, you are going to alienate some fans

I find this version of the ESPN narrative for the future to be interesting. I think most of it isn’t true, but the possible misdirection makes me think…. Compare his story to even another ESPN talking head like Finebaum…..

TCU 🐸

I think a baby hacked the feed for a few minutes.

The B12 teams have already been relegated . The NFL Lite doesn't need more than 32 teams.

I think UH makes it over Baylor.

WV is one of most winningest college football team in history and they aren't on your list for the SEC. Get a new list ,I don't know where you guy on the talk show get your guest they don't have any ideal what going on.

Who died and announced the SEC as football God. There will be no more NCAA...only SEC. Big 10....your next and your not smart enuff to see this. If I was the left behind schools, I would not play the big schools no more. Develop your own playoffs, forget the arrogant goddie 2 shoes blessed most high echelon.

BYU is as good as Auburn

Outside of FSU and Clemson, Virginia Tech is absolutely the best fit for the SEC. P-E-R-I-O-D.

@chrisjudd6

24 күн бұрын

I live 40 miles from Blacksburg. VT culturally is best fit for SEC. But the climate is more similar to B1G.

@tlobrill1

24 күн бұрын

Miami is the bigger brand. They go in over VT.

@tobipadwick6109

24 күн бұрын

I'll tell you, the Big Ten would not be hurt at all adding UVA AND Va Tech. I know a lot of people would crap all over that as they are in the same state, but I think they both would bring more than enough value sports and academically to make them a smart Big Ten combo.

@jamesh2229

24 күн бұрын

WVU and VT would make a killer combo for SEC

@suncity2005

24 күн бұрын

I agree. VT has some of the best fans in the country. Their games are always packed. Most other ACC teams don’t come even close, but let’s not mention any names.

WVU has more all time wins, and lead the series 30-22-2 against Virginia Tech... Im not saying WVU deserves to be in the SEC, though we have been close to getting in before, or the Big 10, though I believe they are a good fit there geographically, the academics would keep them out... Im just saying that if you are gonna talk about teams like Virginia Tech getting into the "power 2" then WVU should be mentioned at least in the same vein! But I am truly happy in the Big XII, I love the new rivalries we are creating, and I love how competitive the conference is from top to bottom in both Football and basketball!! I just pray that the conference is able to continue to make enough money to keep the schools at least competitive with the 2 big money conferences! LET'S GOOOO MOUNTAINEERS 👏👏🏈🏀⚾🇺🇸

@tarheel7406

23 күн бұрын

The new BIG12 won't pay enough. This is why the tentpoles are consolidating in the SEC/B1G. VATECH is a #2 in a state that will soon have 5x the population of WV.

Miami isnt a fit with sec athletically. They would fit in big 12 much better. Cant be in sec if you refuse to have proper facilities and have no fan base that shows up on Saturdays

@tlobrill1

23 күн бұрын

The athletes do not care about the facilities anymore. It’s all about NIL. That’s the main question they ask. Miami is top 6 in the country in NIL. To get the fans they have to have a winning program. They are a private school with 10k students. Bama has like 5x that. YT the 17’ matchup of ND(3) vs Miami (7). Tell me they cant fill out a stadium.

Get rid of that junk in back ground,had to turn off

Think texas tech ok state wvu k state nc state Virginia tech all fit sec Unc miami tcu Kansas fit more so with the big ten

@haroldflashman4687

23 күн бұрын

No of the schools you mention as perfect fit for SEC, bring incremental value. In fact, they don’t even bring pro-rata value. So why would the SEC add them?

@tarheel7406

23 күн бұрын

The BIG12 has already fully depleted out. Only maybe, perhaps bubble teams remain depending on how the top of the ACC scatter.

Dude, WVU should be in over VT. Other than a couple good years with Vick we have owned them!

@JBH4404

24 күн бұрын

What do you mean by that? if you take head start out the 10 games before 1960 it’s .500. WVU better 2020s,80s, and pre 60s ; VT better in 90s, 00s, and 10s. It’s been in waves. VT has a better all time win % at 24 over WVU at 29. WVU has more all time wins in fbs at 15th vs VT at 18th. VT is 28th in weeks in AP vs WVU 31st in weeks in AP. Weather you want to admit or not because of rivalry we are both probably the closest comparable programs to each other.

@ChefDeCuisine_Bubba

24 күн бұрын

The acc screwed up by not adding the Eers, Cincinnati, and Memphis to the league .. twice! The crow has come home to roost. The ACC is done. My Clemson tigers now have been granted a copy of ESPN's secret sauce with the ACC contract... We are gone!

@johnpierson4696

24 күн бұрын

@@JBH4404 10's? WVU is 2-0 in last two games since they joined the BIG12 and started playing again. And the games weren't even close.

@nycpwcsi

23 күн бұрын

WVU is a joke as a university period.

@JBH4404

23 күн бұрын

@@johnpierson4696 There was one game in the 10s (2017 31-24 at FedEx) and WVU had already been in B12 at that time so not sure what you mean by there was only two games. WVU is 2-1 since moving to Big 12. Also how is a 6 point loss in Morgantown a blowout

UCF will eventually be in the SEC

@billbixby5508

24 күн бұрын

Not a freaking chance.

@tarheel7406

24 күн бұрын

UCF is a G5 that didn't make the P5 cut. It won't make the P2.

@adamb6370

24 күн бұрын

Never going to happen. The SEC views Florida as a 2 school state and UCF is not one of the 2 schools

@mikem957

22 күн бұрын

​​@@tarheel7406 They're in the Big 12.

@tarheel7406

22 күн бұрын

@@mikem957 UCF is in the new BIG12, which is now part of a dying P5 structure. UCF is backfill for a now Tier 2 conference as the P5 transitions to the P2.' UCF did not make the P5 cut as each of those P5s effectively stabilized in that status.

Virginia Tech fanbase is very SEC like in a Vanderbilt sort of way.

@theEricCarr

23 күн бұрын

Vanderbilt? Didn't realize their fanbase is like Tennessee and LSU. Impressive. VT's fanbase travels well and is amongst the best in the country. They've even taken over away games at ND and OSU's at their stadiums. Great fanbase.