The penetration was maybe the same on both, but the tanto left a much bigger hole for the same depth of penetration... so I think you actually proved it's a lot better in this case.

never get in a knife fight with a grizzly

@alexstone1808

4 жыл бұрын

I SAW A GUY ON OPRAH GET INTO A FIGHT WITH A BEAR BY JUMPING ON IT’S BACK WITH A KNIFE. THE BEAR CLAWED HIS FACE OFF AND SURGEONS SEWED IT BACK ON....a little crooked.

@feralgrandad4429

3 жыл бұрын

They don't have grizzlies in Japan. They have the Asian black bear which go about 130lb to 200lb. Still a big old opponent but not a Grizzly thankfully.

@louisville4762

2 жыл бұрын

@@feralgrandad4429 北海道にはブラウンベアーが居ます。

@Surv1ve_Thrive

Жыл бұрын

What kind of knife would an Asian black bear carry?

I don't own this particular model of knife, but I do own several with the 'secure-ex' sheaths. I have found that they do not dull the edges of my blades if I press the spine into the sheath as I insert or withdraw the knife.

@dobypilgrim6160

6 жыл бұрын

I do the same with all of my sheaths. Leather will dull them pretty fast as well, unless you are a bit careful. I don't see it as an issue.

I love what you did to the gi tanto its brilliant!!

Great vid, as per usual. I enjoy your discussions on various knife makers etc. Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

At night, I was approached quickly by two unidentified large animals while remote camping in the mountains. You can imagine my thoughts as these two sets of glowing eyes (headlight) bore down on me. I had a spear I carved from stick, spray and 7" bowie knife close by. I instinctively grabbed the spear to keep distance and never thought of the knife. As they ascended the dry creek bed 5 feet in front of me I noticed they were two lost hunting dogs. Knife is good but think about a spear also.

30 degrees means 15 degrees per side. What I say in angle is just from my estimation based on the fact that factory V edges are 40 degrees, Mora Clipper andle is 22 degrees, and Mora Robust angle is 28 degrees. I am thinking 30 degrees is right for wood jobs including batoning. 25 degrees is right for game dressing. Thanks.

Mora's 12C27 takes micro rolls relatively easily during wood or hunting jobs in their 22 degree angle. I sharpen my Clipper by hand and make the bevel a little convex. So my Clipper's angle will be 25 degrees or so. I feel like 28 degrees of the Robust is too large for the light Mora knives. It reduces its handiness. Batoning knives should have both 4mm thick at least and 30 degrees unless it is a super steel in my opinion. Thanks.

the tanto tip does not help deepen penetration but it does make a longer wound

I test it. It doesn't dull the edge at all. Thanks.

Please check if Fallkniven plastic sheath is also dulling the edge..

Is it possible that the edge is rubbing on the rivets (a.k.a. eyelets) of the sheath? Good review

The clip point is better for flesh imo. However if one may also need to open food cans, pry etc then i would recommend the tanto b/c it thrusts well enough while also being really strong. Your absolutely correct on sheaths btw. Wooden scabbard is the way to go. I make custom compression fit wooden scabbards for mine so they dont rattle &/or fall out w/o a retention strap.

That artificial wood seems to be similar to a product called "particle board" in the US

i hope you will try some more of cold steels knifes with the aus 8 steel i would very much like to hear your thoughts on it they have a very wide selection of knifes to select from thank you for your vids

I am nervous about its handle for strong thrusting. Its guard is not for it. And I don't think its belly line is very good for penetration even if it has a swedge grind. My modified belly line to this knife will be much better than Bravo for thrusting. Thanks.

The Tanto penetrated deeper and it had much more resistance because of the larger blade to begin with. imagine the wound left behind by both as well. The Tanto outperformed it.

Have you thought of trying the penetration test without the convex edge (using original edge)? I wonder if the Tanto would penetrate deeper or shallower with the original edge? Thank you

wako, have you thought of using a swedged point bravo 1.5 for bear? I think the thinner blade (from spine to cutting edge) might make penetration easier.

Hi Wako could you do a test on the Fallkniven plastic sheath to see if that dulls the edge ,thanks .

Hi, you have a great channel! When you talk about angle degrees, you mean the total angle right? So when u say 30 degrees u mean 30 total or 30 degrees per side? thanks

Same goes for a phone book. how many pages, etc.

Great demonstration, thank you!

Great video! When stabbing with blade side down, use your thumb to generate more force. Just fyi

Its blade length is 7.5 inches. We have 6.000 brown bears on this island. I have ever met a bear 3 times in a 100 yard range. All bear hunters carry a stabbing knife for the case. We have more than 5 bear attack accidents annually, and a couple of people are killed. It is proven that all the survivors carry a hatchet and smack the bear with it. I am assuming a very close fight where I cannot smack but only stab it. A single stab will make it away. I am real serious. Thanks.

Kabar usmc Is good for this or d2 Is good too

For a good penetration test, try using a stack of 20 or so pieces of cardboard... after a few stabbing tests, you can count precisely how many layers the knife penetrated. As always, great video.

Wow doc. You have mad convexing skills to convex along the top of the grind, barely making any mistakes. Do you have any pointers?

very nice sharpening

I really like your work

I am nervous about its handle for strong thrusting. Its guard is not for it. And I don't think its belly line is very good for penetration even if it has a swedge grind. My modified belly line to this knife looks much better than Bravo for thrusting. Thanks.

AWESOME VID!! Very valuable!! Thank you! I never knew that!? Kind regards from Amsterdam

The Grandmaster of Sharpening Knives ,Black Belt Blades ⚔️🎱⚔️

I might fight with a Black Bear, 200 to 300 pounds here in the US, Our Brown Bears are about 800 to over 1000 pounds. I think I might opt to run, or climb a tree.

@JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead

9 жыл бұрын

U know, bears can climb trees better than humans, right?

You think Moras angles are to weak from factory then? My Mora 2000 has weak angle i think, so ill try make it like steeper with my new waterstones

I'm assuming a bit longer blade than you do. 5 inch blade seems the best to kill a man in a single thrust, and 6 to 7 inch blade seems the best to give a bear a decent damage to make it away. Anyway nimbleness is the most important thing as you think. GI Tanto is light for the size and nimble enough in my opinion. Thanks.

The Secure-Ex sheath hasn’t changed much at all, it dulled my cold steel master hunter after drawing the knife out a few times. I ended up selling the relatively new knife partially because of the soft handle, aside from the sheath.

I feel like the tanto will create a bigger wound, if you're looking for something to defend yourself with it might be better in that regards.

I think the best sheaths are wood and leather....just my observation....maybe if they made them with a thin leather liner or thin wood they would work better. I wonder if it's possible...

Thank you amigo nice review and advice, thank you for sharing your knowledge....👍😁

We have up to 6 inches blade length limitation by law here. And I carry a hunting gun and will not be able to carry a spear at the same time. Thanks.

Thanks a lot for the great review! Now i have my eyes open :)

Hi Doc, what do you think of the Silky Nata as a small axe for bushcraft ?, as far as a G.I. Tanto for Bear Defence, I dunno Doc, I wouldn't attempt a Bear with a .45 a.c.p. let alone a knife, Doc, I think you need to lay down heh heh heh.

@virtuovice

9 жыл бұрын

The Silky Nata is made for forestry people to cut branches off the trunk. They use it at a high position and its blade has a progressive angle to its handle. So it should not be very useful for batoning. For general chopping it doesn't matter though. Thanks.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge :)

Great video and I loved your voice.

With respect, virtuovice, my reply was to "TurkishKnives". You and I have already had this conversation, Wako. I am happy to see you now carrying a long knife for this application my friend. :)

maybe sheath is 'glass reinforced' -- that wld dull steel

How delicate is your edge. One cannot cut much wood with a scalpel. No offense I am learning to sharpen better from your channel. :-D

If you have to have a knife only for bear defense rather than a firearm, consider one you can lash to a pole and use as a spear. A cord-wrapped handle would be superior because you could use the cord to lash it to the pole. Staying out of reach of the bear would be of highest importance. Also good for wolves. Thanks for the video, very informative as always. ~A bear hunter

I think, its ok for this particular model: 64 HRC, for 1055 - you can penetrate a tank with this knife, and nothing will happen. I bought that blade like a spare tanto exemplar in my collection. And its still very brave. After my problems with MTech 676, I really was more respectful to Cold Steel. GI is my best tanto, better than Recon T, MTech 676, Zero Tolerance and all the other models. I don't know, why do you so negative about this. This is a good friend in extremal situations. Thank you for your work!!!👍

I really hope you never have to face a bear but if you do, can you please make sure that you film it and share it on KZread :)

what kind of knife is the one other than the cold steel?

@virtuovice

8 жыл бұрын

+Ethan Dean Ontario Mk3 Navy Knife.

I sand paper my tanto to remove the black color

I've heard the story of an olympic fencer trying to touch a bear with his rapier. He wasn't able to. Bears are incredibly fast and I doubt you'd stand a chance with any knife. I hope you'll never have to find out. The GI Tanto is a neet knife for the money, I use mine for box opening mostly. Totally agree on the sheath, just like the BK 14 sheath, it's a shame.

Nice mods. Thanks for upload!

I'm glad you did this video, I have never understood "American tanto", Japanese tanto makes sense, American tanto was made by Cold Steel to look cool but I don't think it's better. It takes away smooth slicing from the blade in exchange for no penetration extra. It also makes the knife harder to sharpen and harder for multi-purpose uses. Bad design imo. BTW I would enjoy seeing a video in the future for beginners to convex a secondary edge knife or folding knife. It is very useful for me. Thanks

Dr. Wako is my knife guru.

Using a 4" blade against a bear would be like poking Mike Tyson with your baby finger. You're only going to make him mad. With a knife you will get one shot, if you're lucky. Best to make sure it is a deep penetrating thrust that is able to damage major organs. "Fighting a bear" is a misnomer. No man is capable of fighting a bear. You have a chance, with some luck, if you use a large knife. It has been done.

"seat survivor"? They have a lot of bears in France?

Quick fun fact: A bear will kill you before you inflict enough injuries to kill him with a knife. You’d only piss it off and die more horribly. Fact

Plenty of confirmed cases in North America where a hunter has successfully defended himself against a bear with a knife or arrow...even against grizzlies. What one man can do, another can do. SAY IT!!! Great choice Wako San.

I'm glad you're addressing the fact that Ontario, Cold Steel, and Ka-Bar use horrible plastic sheaths that dull their knives. They are not quality products, imo.

You keep stating your concern fir brown bears is your reason for owning this knife. But you have a ?japanese? accent Do you live in or near hokkaido? Also enjoyed your review. Cheers

@virtuovice

3 жыл бұрын

Every single year one or two people are killed by a brown bear in Hokkaido Japan.

lmao bear defense knife, it's called 10mm, your 120 foot body would be tossed around like a ragdoll before you even had a chance to stab it

Man! You are happier than me. That Japanese sheath is sweet. Did you ever get to stab that bear?

Japanese brown bear is not so large. Maybe 400 pounds or so in average. I will have a chance to stab it while it bites me. Many survivors were bit severely but smacked it with a hatchet. The survival probability is 50% the history says. Thanks.

Never occurred to me before but that 'squared off' tip would probably do a lot more damage if stabbing something or someone. It the knife is a precaution against bears I think its a good choice ... given you aren't allowed to carry a 44 magnum revolver. %^)

Fighting grizzlies ain’t so bad, just grin and bear it

Those old secureX sheaths dull blade too easy. The new ones 2019 or so I don't know.🎱 12:26

I think you will need something longer for a bear those knives will just piss it off.

Dear Sir , if you have the chance to meet a big bear, why not choose a cold steel trail master knife, it's much powerful !

Otsukaresama deshita

No. Its plastic itself dulls the edge.

I have 3 points: -"American tanto" style is just for looks, it has bad performance. -Most "plastic" sheaths except kydex contain fiberglass. Fiberglass is hard and it dulls knives. -It's the first time I heard Wako swearing :)

@ramiabiakar2391

9 жыл бұрын

***** You mean 'Murican tantos or non-kydex syntetic sheaths?

@ramiabiakar2391

9 жыл бұрын

*****​ Fashion, no more than that.

@gbronco820

9 жыл бұрын

+Jersey Streicher Why the FKKK you have to say that? Can't simply say American? Why so much hate? Oh wait, everyone wants to go after the #1 !

@ramiabiakar2391

9 жыл бұрын

G BRONCO​ What hate? I don't hate the USA, it's the "modified tanto" that I find disgusting. It's a design that sacrifices the belly along with cutting power for no increase in performance. It's also called "American tanto" or "Murican" if you care about proper pronounciation. There's no "A" in "America", no "P" in "psychology" and no "W" in "sword". "America" is pronounced "Murica" and modified tantos suck, these are raw facts, nothing hateful about them.

@gbronco820

9 жыл бұрын

+Jersey Streicher 'p' silent in psychology is similar to 'A' in America, Really!!!???!!!? Which school did you go? Thanks for clarifying...I thought you were just another Anglo who hated United States. BTW, tanto design is simply a wastage of my attention. Tantos are, probably, for those EFing tacticools !

bear fighting my friend your chances are better with a Case 9.5 inch bowie knife. Heavy knife to carry hunting but bear paw slap will be heavy as well!

compressed wood

When being attacked by a bear maybe we should do what the US homeland Security tells people to do when being attacked by a shooter or rapist...curl up in the fetal position and pee your pants (this is no joke they actually said this lol)

Tonto: Indian that was friend with the Lone Ranger!!! :)

@powerplay4real174

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Tanto because that the name of the blade Herb 🌿

Se volevi un tanto giapponese te lo compravi è poi la vera punta giapponese non è dritta ...

"Tanto" style knives (which are nothing like a Japanese Tanto at all) have very strong tips given the wide angle though they don't have a monopoly on wide angle tips. They're especially good at slashing clothing when compared with pretty much any other type of knife (except maybe a karambit), though most tanto knives are pretty small and not meant for slashing so it's pretty futile. But that's pretty much their only advantage. They're mostly just a "tactical knife" gimick.

Not correct what you are saying! I also have the Secure-ex(r) sheath. It DOES not dull the edge at all. If you put the knife correct in the sheath, the edge will never touch the sheath inside! The sheath is a special design. If you are rubbing the knife in and out very fast in all directions like a complete idiot.... yeah, then you are fucking up the edge. So stay honest against Cold Steel and the people on this channel.

Good video as always. Thank you for informing us that the Cold Steel sheath sucks. you could always get a leather sheath made for it. I know there are a lot of custom leather workers here in the USA, im sure there are some in your country as well. Leather wont rattle and scare off the game like the wood one may.

I don't see your need for a "Bearfighting" Knife. You can use the hunting knife you're carring! Or a swiss army knife! Or a tipped stick! Or throw rocks! Or some flowers! YOU HAVE DEFINATLY NO CHANCE AGAINST A BEAR WITH A KNIFE. No need to carry a Fighting Knife while hunting, only more weight for you to carry in the woods.

You are going to wake your wife and daughter..............

Not "a crap" but "a piece of crap." love your videos wako

Stiletto is and always will be the king of stub.

You seem to be a fine craftsman, but I CAN ASSURE YOU, you most likely will NOT get close enough to a Brown bear to stab it, our native hunters the American Indian people who used edged weapons only as a last response, if they were fighting from a attack where the bear is on top OF them, this is generally a suicide defense to take the bear to death with you because the bear will likely kill a man if he gets a hold on him! FOR fighting or protection or hunting Native American Indian people used Spears and Bow and arrows. BUT THAT'S a BEAUTIFUL, PRACTICAL, EFFECTIVE DESIGN. Very nice!

I am nervous about its handle for strong thrusting. Its guard is not for it. And I don't think its belly line is very good for penetration even if it has a swedge grind. My modified belly line to this knife will be much better than Bravo for thrusting. Thanks.