Take a sharpie and color the numbers on your mandrel, wipe the excess away. It will make them stick out better. Love the video. :)

Good job on these rings , a week ago i stumbled on these videos , and decided to give it a try . I bought the basic tools , and so far so good , i've been creating magic with some of the coins i purchased . You are the third person who uses PVC pipe either 1/2 inch , or 3/4 inch to bend coins , this works extremely well for me . I've seen a video of a person trying to sell a coin compression tool , and i found it useless . The time it takes this guy to set up his coin in his compression tool , i can make 3 rings out from quarters just by using the PVC pipe . I am practicing as much as possible to improve the quality of my rings , before i decided to sell them .

@deavyhick6803

2 жыл бұрын

How did your ring making enterprise turn out?

This is really cool! You do a great job sharing how to make them. I'm really impressed.

thanks for the video, i'm going to start getting the tools and will be starting my coin ring hobby soon. you explained everything very well, much appreciated. God bless!

Well done brother, well done. Good looking rings

Best video I seen you list the tools required and show the process. thumbs up

Nice! Good hobby to pick up. My close friend is a marine and wants me to buy a marine silver coin and make a ring out of it, can't wait. Good job on the rings!

Very good description of making the coin rings !

Nice job. I'm just getting into it myself. I appreciate the vid.

Thank you sooooo much, you are so helpful. You will be my "go to person" when I run into another crisis. Cause I'm sure this won't be the first one. Again than you so much for answering both questions.

Good job , and thanks for sharing . I came up with some ideas to improve this ring making process , and i will be sharing this with everyone , as soon i get some time off .

Hi, oldporchdog! This is fascinating. I've watched a few videos from around, and your method is the first one that seems like it won't send me to the emergency room. Your tools are local and pretty reasonable, and I think I could really do this! Thanks! PS: I love old dogs, the bigger the better! 😉

Host one fer me! Thanks for the tips.

lets not forget, coin rings even at 90% silver content ones will tarnish and turn your finger colors after prolonged wear. While they are cool, its best to get them silver plated with .925 to ensure they wear better.

Hi. You are a master 🙏👌👍😎

I took the plunge I got it all everything even down to the 4 inch anvil/vise pvc pipe and all, 4lb mini sledge for the punch, decided to go all out, awaiting the mandrel from amazon. gonna need me some lucks now :)

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

John if you went out and bought a vise then you must have seen my other video about how to round off the rings. You did go for the plunge, dove right in. Good luck to you and if you find yourself in a bind and need a little help, don't hesitate to ask. There's no dumb questions...just dumb mistakes. Just remember to anneal the coin often. Any time you think the coin is not doing what you want, just reheat it to a dull red and drop it back into water and it will mold or stretch better for you. You need a dremel tool with some buffing attachments and some steel wool to buff out the rings again. Other wise it will turn your finger black. The color on the outside of the ring will start going away after a while of wearing them. Good luck to you.

@johnhill9315

10 жыл бұрын

oldporchdog many thanks, yah, went to harbor freight , bought the 9pc punch and die set, plastic domed hammer, 4 inch anvil/vise ,25 pc doming block and punch set ,hacksaw blades, chainsaw file(just incase ever needed) sponge sanding block, extra fine washable sandpaper, short 4 lb hickory handle sledge hammer, mothers aluminum polish, nice ring sizers 1-15, one of the best mandrel's I could find on amazon with best ratings, kobalt plastic/rubber hammer, pvp pipe in 1/2,3/4,1 inch with cap on the ends, even went as far as getting a magnifying glass with a built in light lol

@johnhill9315

10 жыл бұрын

any recommendations on what size coins to use per average size of the ring ?... example quarter for size 4-8, ill need one for around a size 11 -13.. im assuming 50 cent peace for myself

Dude your ring rocks

My friend, one thing I would like to have seen was after you mentioned your conversation with the couple, you would have explained how many times you heated the metal. I went to Harbor Freight, bought the tool, came home and started punching, which turned into a stretched coin jammed in the die. What a mess!

@oldporchdog

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you're having problems with your coin rings. You don't heat the ring up at first. Puncture hole before you heat the ring. Use your small Anvil with the dents in it to round the coin over to look like a half moon shape. Then you heat the coin and start hammering it around the ring mandrel. Heating the coin allows it to stretch.

That was brilliant. You are an interesting guy.

I used to do it this way myself until I saw a new way that eliminates all the pounding and heating by using a 2 ton bench press. you still need the punch and doming block, but you have the press do the work and then use a ring sizer/reducer to size it. It's a lot easier and cuts time it takes to make one down to 20 minutes.

@oldporchdog

9 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a video that I would be interested in watching. Anything that makes it easier I like. If you happen to have the link could you post it here so me and everyone else could see it and save us some frustration. I made a bunch of rings during that one winter and then stopped for a long time, but every once in a while I get someone in the family that comes up with an odd coin that they would like turned into a ring so any info to make it easier is great. Thanks.

@DavidKernmagik62

9 жыл бұрын

Check out Adam McSkinny's channel. He just posted it about a week or so ago. I know that it's made my life a lot easier in doing them. I had stopped myself do to a shoulder injury. But after seeing and trying his new method, I can do them again and they come out looking better as well. He uses an arbhor press for the clads, but being that I have a 6 ton table top press, I use it instead and get the same results.

@oldporchdog

9 жыл бұрын

David Kern Thanks a lot I'll go check his sight out. Thanks for getting back to me. Have a great evening and thanks again.

@DavidKernmagik62

9 жыл бұрын

Any time. We creative types need to help each other out when it comes to new ways and techniques that we come across.

@oldporchdog

9 жыл бұрын

David Kern I found his video at kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHlsysGGaLaoj8o.html . I love his shrinking dies and that ring stretch sure would be handy. If I were to put that kind of money into it, I would have to be making some kind of money back on the hobby. I got into it because I thought they were kind of cool. I never thought of it as a money maker. But if you have the money then why not? And thanks again, it was definitely worth watching.

Great video thanks.

What I do is once I make my ring, I put it on a ring stretcher to get the correct sizes. But anneal the ring again before sizing.

@adamcz3183

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

thanks! I was trying to find this!

What do you do with the punch outs? Melt them 4 scrap? Or you could melt them together & make whole silver rings.

I made mine with a spoon rolled it and taped it for two days

Wish you would make a video of how you make one from start to finish? I think i have all the tools you have in this video. I just dont know how im going to stretch the ring or if its to big how to mke the ring smaller?

@oldporchdog

Жыл бұрын

It's been a while since I've made a coin ring. But I used to use half inch and 3/4 inch PVC tubing About 10" long. And run it through a shawl about half way up the tube. I used that to drive the ring over the mandrel. If you stretch a ring too large you can put it back in your doming block into a hole where the ring barely fits and squeeze it in a vice. That will bring it back in size. Good luck.

Very good video my friend! I will give it a try once I get on my feet. Can I use laminated coins or old silver ones?

@oldporchdog

Жыл бұрын

I've used both, and they both work fine. They will turn your finger green from whereing them?

nothing like taking $0.25 coin, spending 10min or more making it into a ring then making $20-$70

@elcangri1988

10 жыл бұрын

you can´t sell them for 20-70, since by law it´s value is 0,25 $ -.-

@curtissutphin6573

10 жыл бұрын

funny, I guess a lot of people are braking the law as you can go to a store and buy them or online

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

elcangri1988 Your not selling the coin. Your selling your labor and giving them the coin. Besides try to go to a coin shop and by a 1921 silver dollar for only a dollar. You'll get laughed at worse than you are here. Your logic has nun.

@daveknowshow

9 жыл бұрын

elcangri1988 its no longer currency its become "art" and is then valued at art prices.

@Chippy5544

9 жыл бұрын

10 minutes? Uh, nope. Tools and skill. Besides, how much does a plumber charge for 10 minutes work? And lawyers charge $400 per hour. What skill do you have that someone else would say, "You're being paid too much"? Everything is relative.

awsome!

There is one thing I wish you would have covered (ok. two...I lied LOL) no idea how its spelled so, hopes you can figure it out. What kind of torch do you use to enel the coin, and what do you use to pickle? If you would, do a video on this subject, on the amount of time, when you know it is heated long enough, use of Liver of Sulphur (crap that turns the metal black). Thank you for all you do.

@oldporchdog

Жыл бұрын

I use a standard hobby shop or handyman propane torch. I do not recommend the ones from Harbor freight as they are made out of plastic and I have broken 2 or 3 of those so far. But they have some from Ace Hardware and many other hardware stores out there that work much better. I heat the coin until it turns a bright red and then drop it into cold water. And I don't pickle my rings they turn black enough just after enealing them.

Thanks!

I would love to make rings like that but have arthritis and can't do it

GOOD JOB!

1st it is not illegel to do this to coin it becomes illgel when you try to make a coin into something of a dif denmination like a half dollar into a 1 dollar coin so that ends that ? now to the guy who makes these they are awsome and i am just gettin into it but now i have made about 50 or so and was wondering how much too sell them for any info will help me. i also just sobed your channel, lookin to learn more from you these other ppl don't do as good of job as you my friend you are awsome. Thx again Hopp U.S.Army

@oldporchdog

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael, I wish I could tell you that I've made lots of money doing this, but the fact is I've never sold one. I just did it to keep me from going crazy during the winter months. I gave them all out to friends and family. I even turned down a guy that wanted to pay me big bucks to make him some out of silver foreign coins. I suppose a guy could make some money at this but the real money is in the silver coins, because a standard coin will always turn your finger black. Have fun and I hope you make a few bucks.

@RX-LST-N-SPC

9 жыл бұрын

it's not about makin money on them just aslong as you have fun doin it. i do alot of things to keep my mind off my PTSD and other things i suffer daily from the war. I make alot of paracord stuff like gun slings 1pt for AR's and AK's and 2pt for rifles and shotguns, dog leashes and collars belts and a few other items i don't make bracelets only for someone that wants something cool. so if you ever need anything paracord check out my site on facebook hoppparacordcreations or my web site has not been updated is sometime. have a great day brother

I have had quite a few people asking how to round over the large end of the ring. First use a dremel tool to take down the edge of the coin both inside and outside that will help you make the ring flat and not cone shaped and to see how I round off the ends watch my other video "Coin Rings...How To Round Over The Ends." at kzread.info/dash/bejne/gplntNppma7OY5s.html

@jma5177

8 жыл бұрын

+oldporchdog Qual o nome deste conjunto de ferramentas, e onde eu compro?

Thank your for your response Mike. I looked on Amazon and here is what I found. I found a half spear,2" for $35. They had no 2-1/2 " ones. But then I saw two different solid brass ones, is large 77 half spears, 3mm to 50 mm it's $72.65,(little out of my price range) then the smaller solid brass one is 57 half spears,3mm to 27 mm so would it be good to get the smaller brass one? It's $26.68. Let me know what you think. Thanks again.

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

I would stay away from the brass ones. Brass is just to soft...a lot softer than your coins. I'm afraid that all you would be doing is destroying the brass block. You want to stay with stainless steal as it's a lot harder than any of your coins. I spent around $20 for mine without the punches. If your going to spend $35 for one without the punches I'd go down to your local Harbor Freight Tools or order it off the interweb from them with the punches for $42.99. If you know someone that gets their fliers in the mail, they usually have a 20% off coupon that could save you $8.60 before taxes...that's $34.39 before taxes or shipping and handling if you go that way. Also check EBay sometimes they have "buy it now" sales that might save you some $. I live at harbor freight so I have a few 20% off coupons, so if you can't find a friend or family member that has one for you...get ahold of me again and we will figure out a way to get it to you. The idea here is to have fun without breaking the bank.

@The1fishinchick

10 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mike. I actually found one through ebay. You'll probably hear from me again at some time or another. Thank you for your help.

Nice job Oldporchdog! If Fencekid says your good, that's saying something cause I learned from him and now you. I was able to get the punch brand new at a pawn shop for $15 bucks. Don't want to spend the money for the entire Dapping block with punches, so I'll go your route and get the block and use a ball pein hammer. The pawn shop is a good place for getting coins as well. What's your ring size? I have the challenge of making a ring that's a size 16. I first have to find a mandrel that goes that high.

For just starting out those rings look really really nice. I want to know how your rounding off the edges of the coin ring and making them round instead of cone shaped like most other coin rings I keep seeing ?

Have you ever tried a dual metal coin, like a Hong Kong $5 coin or a Turkish 50 cent piece? Or some foreign coins that have wavy edges? Not having the tools & not willing to jump in full-bore...investing the time & money at this point...just curious what's possible beyond quarters & silver dollars. How about the gold colored $1 US president or sakagewea coins? I have a bunch of coins left over from overseas that I could send you to play with just to know if it's possible. If some of them work, then I think I might get myself some tools & start playing around...

What is the cube thing he is using? I was thinking about making some and have everything but the cube.

Hi, I'm Brazilian. Where can I find these equipments to manufacture rings coin? What would it cost to buy all? thank you Breno

Not bad for a beginner.

Interesting!

These are not too shabby.

I found out there are four (4) sizes dapping blocks...How do we know which size is for coins?? 1" 2'", 2 1/2'", 3"'....

@oldporchdog

9 жыл бұрын

I tried to get the largest I could find. That way you can use it for all your coins and if need it can be used for tinkering in the metal shop. Be careful when you order them. It may be advertised as a metal block but it may be aluminum and won't work for this. if you can find a 3" or 2 1/2" stainless steel block you will be doing okay. If you get one too small you won't be able to do silver dollars in it. Good luck.

@wisestudent1463

9 жыл бұрын

Ok..But dont you want the one with the closest size hole to fit a given coin ?? I ordered one before I knew they came in sizes..I got a 1" boy wasI pissed...So I orderd another this time it is a 2" probably still to small... This hobby is costing allot of money !!

is it just my coin rings or do all of them turn your finger black, even after dremel polishing ,etc (not meaning silver ones)

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

John these rings are just novelty rings. They look cool and are a great conversation starter. But yes they all turn your ringer black. I have seen a few made from gold coins but that's outside of what I'll spend on novelty. My younger sister recommended using a clear finger nail polish to paint the inside of the ring to keep it from turning your finger black. But I don't know if that would work or not. I hang them on a chain around my mirror and on my key chain and my finger doesn't turn colors. Good luck and have fun with them.

@DavidKernmagik62

9 жыл бұрын

Coins made after 1970 have no in them and are clads. a modern quarter is a mix of a copper core with a nickel/copper coating. That's why your skin turns color and why most coin rings are made from pre 1971 coins.

isnt that defacing gov property ? i love the rings

@bradcliff7099

5 жыл бұрын

Currency in ones possession is ones property to do with as they please!

where did you get your punch press?

Does the black come off on your finger

I got around 200 plus silver coins, and i'm not sure what i should charge ppl? If i just used non silver coins i wouldn't charge but since i got that many coins i have to charge.I would think like 40-50 bucks should do it but not sure if ppl would pay these amounts.Thx again for responding too my comments. Michael

@RX-LST-N-SPC

9 жыл бұрын

thx friend i have gotten it figured out i think? Ppl around here are willin to pay 30 bucks for a state quarter, it's crazy how there sellin. I have seriously sold them off my fingers to ppl. I also have been buying silver coins and silver bars to add to my stash the coins are very affordtable and great lookin check out Moinco precise metals I know my spellin sucks. check them out if you are in need of coins, if you do go there let me know what you think k have a Blessed Day my friend

@greenones8754

6 жыл бұрын

Do you still have silver coins for sale?

@Dennis-pe6zx

6 жыл бұрын

michael hopp most people were only selling them for $20-$25 because they are just .25 and quick and easy to make.

@Dennis-pe6zx

6 жыл бұрын

michael hopp why buy the silver bar of ur making coin rings? Can't make coin rings out of that.

Can you tell me the name of the other object you got off Amazon. I am getting the punch and die kit,. But being female I would like to make this as easy as possible. You didn't mention the name of the second gadget. the square one? Thank you.

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

Brenda I am glad to help you out. The square block is called 2 different names, one is a doming block or a dapping block. And I have another video showing how to use it further. Check out this link Coin Rings...How To Round Over The Ends. . The long shaft is called a ring mandrel. Make sure you get a steel mandrel. They sell them in plastic and aluminum too. The hammer can be bought at harbor freight and it's used for body and fender repair on cars. I hope this helps you out, and good luck to you.

Hello oldporchdog, I'm interested in knowing what the name, and where do I find the tool you use to make the hole to the center of the coins, which the opinion is made of acrylic. grateful, Humberto.

@oldporchdog

9 жыл бұрын

Humberto I found them at Harbor Freight Tools. If you don't have one in your area here are some links to there sight and hopefully directly to the tool in question. www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-punch-and-die-set-95547.html www.harborfreight.com/25-piece-doming-block-and-punch-set-93539.html I hope this helps you out.

Hi Mike, me again. Listen what is the size of the cube thing with the inverted dome shapes? I ordered one from Amazon when I got mine yours made mine look like a little toy cube. :-( Plus it had NO little round tools to go with it. So I reckon I need to get the right size on the cube this time before I go order another one. Thank you.

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

The Doming or Dapping block that I bought was a 2 1/2" block. I wanted the largest that I could find because I don't use the real small holes. I also wanted a 2" hole for other projects so I needed a 2 1/2" block. You don't need the round punches if you have ball peen hammers. Just use a small one so that you have room for the coin so you don't smash the surface of your coin. You can find them on line with the punches and you can find the punches by them selves. Harbor Freight Tools has them with the punches for $43.99 but I'm not sure if it is a 2" or a 2 1/2 inch as they advertise it in metric sizes. they should both work for rings but I use mine in the shop for other things so I needed the larger one. You might check online for a metric conversion chart to help you get the one your looking for. Good Luck and Happy Shopping.

Are .999 copper coins good to practice using?

Looks good. Are you still doing it. I have started ring making myself about 6 months ago. I have made about 35 so far for people and of course some for me to practice with. I'd love to share tips or tricks.

@oldporchdog

7 жыл бұрын

No I only did it to keep from going crazy during the winter. I made a large bag full of them before a party in the spring and let everyone dig through them until they found one that fit their finger. They went over real big at the party. Now I only make them if a family member asks me to make them another one.

What tools you use to make the ring i want look up the equipment to make it for my sister wedding ring

@oldporchdog

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Irene. You will need a plastic teardrop shaped hammer, A ring sizing mandrel, A punch and die set to punch the hole in the coin, and a 3 inch dapping block or it is also called a doming block. A small anvil and some 3/4 inch PVC tubing is handy. I split the PVC tubing down the sides about 5 inches so that it can stretch out a bit while your driving the coin down the mandrel. The cheapest place to find this stuff is from Harbor Freight Tools but you can also find it on Amazon. Oh I forgot you might also need a propane torch to anneal the coin and soften the metal in the coin and a Dremel rotary tool to sand the sharp edges down. When you get good at making them, Make up a bunch in different sizes and take them to your next BBQ and hand them out. It's a big hit with all the kids. Good Luck and I hope this helps you.

You never did tell us what the block was for

can you please put a like to that doming/dapping block, I looked all over Amazon and nothing, I would appreciate it very much.

@bradcliff7099

5 жыл бұрын

He bought it at Harbor Freight!

arrgggghhh in canada we don't have access to the same "shops" it would cost me $175.85 to have all the material :O (and that does not include the hammer!) (by the way, what kind of hammer is it precisly?)

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

Most of this stuff is available from Amazon.com or EBay.com. The hammer is used in body and fender repair so you might find it at a auto paint supply shop. Ask for a plastic tear drop hammer and they will know what your looking for. This may also be available from Amazon.com. Good luck and I hope you find it for less than $175.00.....ouch.

Could you tell me the specific name of the big coned shaped nylon hammer ? Great job.

@oldporchdog

6 жыл бұрын

It's called a teardrop mallet and sold at Harbor Freight Tools. The SKU# is 66205 and here is a link to their page www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-teardrop-mallet-66205.html I hope this helps you out. You can sometimes find them at parts houses and paint shops for cars. The hammer is used to remove dents car panels.

@deby7821

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much,,I.. love that store by the way. Great video.

Hi how big is the Dapping/Doming Block what are the Measurements and where did you purchase it? Thanks

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

It's 2 1/2" stainless steel and I got it off of Amazon.com.

@EADGBEKEN

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks... You do Great work...

where did u buy your mandrel at

What's that block with the holes in it called

@oldporchdog

8 жыл бұрын

+Jacob Siebert I bet if you spent a second or two reading the description of the video you would probably find your answer to that question......again.

HELP !!!!!!! I have a dilemma. I tried to make my first coin ring. Forgot to use the "sledge" hammer and used a regular hammer, took me a bit but I knocked the center out BUT then.......................... I couldn't get the coin out of the punch and die thing. Can you tell me what to do to get the coin out.??? PLEASE.!!! I really don't have enough money to buy another Punch and Die kit. I DON'T want to beak it. My hubby is a truck driver so he isn't here right now to help me. The kids aren't much help. Also I was looking at some other videos and reading some comments last night; someone brought up a good question. I know it's legal to make the rings but I wanted to make some to sale for some extra income. Someone asked if you make a nickel ring(etc.) is it legal to sell it for more than it's face value? If you can answer ASAP please, I would be so grateful. Thank you.

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

Brenda you crack me up. I had the same problem my self. All you need to do is hang the hole over the edge of your bench and use a small diameter punch to drive the stuck punch all the way though the hole. As far as the selling a coin for more than face value, well coin shops do it every day. Besides your not selling the coin for more than face value ...your selling your labor. But it is illegal to deface government property. on the other hand I don't know of anyone that has been arrested selling coin rings. As a matter of fact my brother bought a necklace at a very large craft show for his wife made from a coin that the guy use a jewelers saw to cut away all the inside of the coin but the presidents head.

@tubinpammi

10 жыл бұрын

tubinpammi By the way...I neglected to state how awesome and useful your video is. I also wanted to thank you for being so "available" for responding to comments posted here. So many people post videos and never answer any questions from their "fans". Cudos to you!

What is the block set called

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

It's a stainless steel doming or dapping block. It has two different names depending on who is using it. Be careful they come in real small sizes and in soft metal like brass and aluminum. You want to get one 2/12 to 3" in size. I tried to get the largest I could find so I could use it for coins as large as silver dollars with no problem. Harbor Freight Tools sells them with all the round head punches for about $43.00. You can also get them on Amazon without the punches for about $20.00 or so.

Lovely rings do you sell any?

@oldporchdog

5 жыл бұрын

No I never sold any of them. In one year I made several hundred rings but I always just gave them away.Then my mind wandered and I stopped making rings and went on to other things.

What is the block thing called?

@oldporchdog

10 жыл бұрын

It has 2 different names, one is a doming block and I have seen it called a dapping block also. You want to buy a stainless steel one and you'll want to get it in 3" or no smaller than 21/2". You can get them at Harbor Freight Tools for $43.99 with all the round head punches. I bought mine from Amazon.com for about $20.00 with no punches. I use a set of ball peen hammers. You can see how to use it further at my other video at. Coin Rings...How To Round Over The Ends.

@1Alchemistic

10 жыл бұрын

oldporchdog Thank you for the info. I've checked and cannot find one (dapping block) over 2" 1/2", I suppose it will work. I'll use a ball peen too. I think I've got a good handle on it. Your videos are great, you're very concise and I enjoy watching them. I believe they're the best, for me anyway. I've always made my own tools (I've made victorian lighting repo's for over 30 years) I bend and thread my brass, buff and etc.. I love working in metal of all kinds. I also used to carve hobo nickels. I can't wait till I make my first coin ring. I was just going to buy one, but thought, eh, why not just make me one! I'll keep you posted as to how it goes! Thank again!

1995

destroying money love it!!

@KirksCORNER

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry I'm retired.

@TajulIslam-ei7gd

6 жыл бұрын

Isaiah, go *u** yourself douchbag and don't judge a book by its cover. Also, you wouldn't have the balls to go up to him. Pathetic comments like that just piss me off.

You should have done the actual demonstrations rather than just talking about it!

@oldporchdog

6 жыл бұрын

I find that most people don't even want to spend 12:00 minutes watching a video. I didn't think I could get anyone to spend 45:00 minutes to an hour watching a video. Sure there wasn't that many videos on the net about coin ring when I uploaded mine. But now there are so many people getting into making rings and everyone thinks they're experts on the subject so I just leave it up to them to make more videos. Thanks for watching and good luck.