Cobalt8 Vs Minilogue Xd

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After reviewign the Jupiter Xm alongside the Cobalt 8 I realised I had the Minilogue XD sitting beside me, which would be interesting to look at as well. One is all digital, one is a bit of a hybrid. A review of the pros and cons of each.
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0:00 Overview
3:03 Reso Bass from scratch
5:29 Fun With Filters
7:14 PWM Pad from scratch
10:15 some sounds
18:52 Final Thoughts

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  • @Nonpartisanmusic
    @Nonpartisanmusic3 жыл бұрын

    "Digital gives you access to parallel universes, star-stuff you've never seen or heard before but Analogue soothes you, washes your soul and takes you safely back home". I can't describe my love for both any better.

  • @user-sx2iw2hq3l

    @user-sx2iw2hq3l

    3 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't choose to buy first one. I want them both 😭Suucks

  • @audiolego

    @audiolego

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta have both for flavor. I like digital for pads and analog for bass especially when samples to the MPC.

  • @scarvello

    @scarvello

    4 ай бұрын

    Fitting description

  • @vertigev
    @vertigev3 жыл бұрын

    It's great to see the workflow to build patches on both, as well as hear the sounds and filters. Thank you!

  • @cortical1
    @cortical13 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this! Thoughtful comparison with some beautiful sounds. Can't ask for more than that. Sending appreciation sysex from Carlsbad, California!

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, appreciated.

  • @rolandmarckwort
    @rolandmarckwort3 жыл бұрын

    Lovely sounding synths, both!

  • @Diamond_Eyes_24
    @Diamond_Eyes_243 жыл бұрын

    18:52 old “stool” vibe!! Great vid as always thanks for comparing. XxxX

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha fekin’ auto correct. And try typing fekin’ just to add irony to the pain 😂

  • @SWATTECHNOLOGIES
    @SWATTECHNOLOGIES Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the compassion and comparisons. You put me over the top for the Cobalt. Especially with the Colbat getting software V2 updates which were massive improvements. I remember voice stealing 30 years ago and am quite surprised people don't mind it, they should be dumbfounded about it. I was considering the XD but the Colbalt fits better for my composing, and I need those extra voices and LFO's. The Cobalt App is also excellent. I am not doing repetitive EDM where voices stealing would get lost in the mass of drums and bass anyway. Thanks again

  • @JansKanaal
    @JansKanaal3 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's quick! Nice comparison again, thanks mate

  • @ToXball
    @ToXball2 жыл бұрын

    despite the limit of 4 voices, the Minilogue XD excites me much more. The multiFx sounds really good, gives really interesting and always exciting sounds. Thanks for this great comparison

  • @cortical1
    @cortical13 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. Thanks! Sending regards from Carlsbad, California!

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @michaelscottpettis
    @michaelscottpettis3 жыл бұрын

    Perfect, thank you for the great video!

  • @randydarklight
    @randydarklight3 жыл бұрын

    Starsky is much into Nerd Details..great. I love his videos as an electronic musician.

  • @Catmemegod
    @Catmemegod3 жыл бұрын

    The digital oscillator on the mini has a filter envelope inside the settings menu (separate) for more flexibility. Additionally you can bypass the filter for extra weird sounds or drum loops type things. Using the four automation lanes makes it possible to have “multi timbral” sound because you can have each of the three oscillators coming in and out.

  • @HotStrange

    @HotStrange

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the FM engine is a complete 2 op FM synth with control over the EG, modulator, carrier, and noise.

  • @sontranthai8040

    @sontranthai8040

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does it come with prologue too ???

  • @ianmorton1799

    @ianmorton1799

    Жыл бұрын

    I use that faux multimbral trick all the time. I haven't noticed the filter envelope just for the digital oscillator though?

  • @YanivhmTube

    @YanivhmTube

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ianmorton1799 In the setting you can bypass the analogu filter

  • @CapRockout
    @CapRockout3 жыл бұрын

    Came to this video GASing for the Cobalt 8 and left totally satisfied with the Minilogue XD that I already own. Love your videos! Always a big help.

  • @freshkidblaze

    @freshkidblaze

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man I'm so glad I decided to get the xd, I told my friends videos don't do it just. Its one of those synths you have to experience in person

  • @Dolores5000
    @Dolores50002 жыл бұрын

    Really nice comparison! I own the Cobalt8 and dig it as my poly synth! And although it’s sounds great it’s just not quite as fat as my Arp Odyssey but honestly Cobalt8 does enough tricks to make it a welcome addition to any synth arsenal

  • @jeffevansmusic
    @jeffevansmusic3 жыл бұрын

    The Cobolt8 is an all digital machine but is modelling analog. The XD is a true hybrid, offering analogue and digital oscillators, analogue filters and amplifiers, but digital LFOs, contour generators and effects. So in reality the Korg can be setup for a true analog signal path. The Korg is also a really nice hybrid. Having digital envelope generators means maybe faster rise times etc which could be very useful. But there are also some excellent modelling synths too. They can sound really excellent at being analog. Novation Supernova comes to mind when talking about such instruments.

  • @Jason75913
    @Jason759133 жыл бұрын

    I'm gettin' both, eventually. I've had the Minilogue XD briefly in the past already, and that Cobalt is badass.

  • @SHLDMusic
    @SHLDMusic3 жыл бұрын

    Two really interesting small synths! But the CV-in of the Korg is a big plus :)

  • @pete2070
    @pete20703 жыл бұрын

    The minilogues (original & the xd) are great! You have midi & sync on both and cv in on the xd. The korg volcas sync up with them as well. Cool kit for the prices!

  • @digitaldiezel5870
    @digitaldiezel58703 жыл бұрын

    Both very nice! Just depends on the vibe of the song you’re working on.

  • @RyanParkerTV
    @RyanParkerTV3 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome thank you for making this. It’s nice to see a comparison for a VA vs an analog just in general. I think Virtual analog is its own sound. There’s a place for both. I don’t think it’s a replacement for analog. It seems VA is more rigid and aggressive and analog is more loose and mellow

  • @frankstetka7206

    @frankstetka7206

    5 ай бұрын

    The Colbalt can get some Analog vibes pretty well actually.

  • @gooberthoreau
    @gooberthoreau3 жыл бұрын

    The Modal does sound pretty awesome. It has a richness to it that usually these VA types don't have.

  • @frankvaleron
    @frankvaleron3 жыл бұрын

    Really helpful thanks

  • @VolkerJSchmidt
    @VolkerJSchmidt3 жыл бұрын

    Some Sunds 10:15 :) Thx for the comparison! ...epic typo XD

  • @ultrajayme
    @ultrajayme2 жыл бұрын

    @7:34 is CLASSIC jungle pad vibes. all you need are some Peshay bird chirp samples in the background. i cannot f&^%ing wait to get this synth. arrives tuesday

  • @tomc7299
    @tomc72993 жыл бұрын

    Thanks great vid..

  • @gossamyr
    @gossamyr3 жыл бұрын

    Seems like they compliment eachother more than compete against one another...lovely vid, appreciate the work, cheers ps the an1x is still my favourite board, so it kinda feels like we've come full circle, yeah?

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember a friend buying the An1x when it first came out. I was well jealous!!

  • @kingtrance6826

    @kingtrance6826

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Yamaha AN1X is great! It would pair quite nicely with the new 61 key Cobalt 8X. 👍

  • @ryanstephanus
    @ryanstephanus3 жыл бұрын

    soundwise, the cobalt8 is good but the minilogue xd still have the edge in this comparison

  • @johnrichardson3297
    @johnrichardson32973 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!!

  • @WibblyWobblyBob
    @WibblyWobblyBob Жыл бұрын

    The Cobalt now has filter drive added and free running oscillators that definitely close the gap.

  • @ProckGnosis
    @ProckGnosis3 жыл бұрын

    Great job and thanks for posting. Definitely prefer the core sound of the Minilogue XD over the Cobalt8. As I probably mentioned elsewhere, the Cobalt8 sounds good and has some cool programming options, but there are other hardware VA synths I think nail a better analog sound.

  • @dr.papadopolis7171
    @dr.papadopolis71713 жыл бұрын

    I think pretty much two off the best synthesizers available for this price.. !

  • @HotStrange
    @HotStrange2 жыл бұрын

    If the XD had 8 voices or the Prologue had the motion sequencer, they’d be the 2 best synths to come out in a very long time. They’re still very close to it as they are.

  • @ultrajayme

    @ultrajayme

    2 жыл бұрын

    Buy a mini XD desktop to stack on a mini XD

  • @HotStrange

    @HotStrange

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ultrajayme Poly chaining still isn’t quite the same but I get your point.

  • @ultrajayme

    @ultrajayme

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HotStrange you're right it's not. I used to have the mini XD and now have a prologue 8. Love it

  • @HotStrange

    @HotStrange

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ultrajayme the Prologue is wonderful. Enjoy!

  • @buskingforlife

    @buskingforlife

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HotStrange Can you please explain why its not the same? Im happy with the xd so far but literally would buy the module just to be able to play my patches with 8 poly. What are the issues with it?

  • @downpatmusic
    @downpatmusic3 жыл бұрын

    Similar sounding but the Korg has the VCO's which sound so present and punchy. I have the Korgs XD's polychained for 8VCO's. Unbeatable in that mode. However both Cobalt the Korg XD's are probably good to have. Small, compact and sound great. May need to pick up the Cobalt 8m to compliment.

  • @SuchaDoofus
    @SuchaDoofus3 жыл бұрын

    Lovin the 808 State vibe around 10:00..... Back to 91....

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha ... if only I had a saxophone

  • @alanmodimages

    @alanmodimages

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! The 808 State vibe sold it for me too!

  • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
    @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene3 жыл бұрын

    Dig-alog....the age old 30 year controversy. Analog organ was my first keyboard in the 60s, then piano, then my first synth in the 80s, an analog Juno.....then all digital synths for 30 years until this year added a MicroBrute to my rig. Nice to have choices today! But have no idea which to buy. Was ready to buy a Minilogue (original) but now.....???.....

  • @amitairottenberg2158
    @amitairottenberg21582 жыл бұрын

    Light stick out 😂, best comparison bro 🙏

  • @cohaagenup
    @cohaagenup2 жыл бұрын

    So, I went and let this video running in the background, in a minimised window, while I was at work and only switched back to look anytime a sound grabbed me by the ears... and time and time again it was the XD! That came as a surprise, since what interested me originally was the Cobalt 8. Maybe it was the preset quality, maybe it was pure chance... but it looks like my ears pretty much were telling me something!

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Minilogue does have those gorgeous Korg VCOs and for raw sound it’s hard to beat. The cobalt can give more complex results.. but yeah - the Korg sounds lovely.

  • @neutronenstern7414
    @neutronenstern74142 ай бұрын

    Danke für deine Bemühungen ❤😊

  • @dicefall9
    @dicefall93 жыл бұрын

    My 2 favorites things about these synths; •you can upload your own recorded wav files into the Minilogue XD and use it as an oscillator trough the whole substractive synth process. •the way you can program the sequencer and transpose it by pressing keys on the Cobalt is the best, it's simple to quickly play a series of notes that will act as an arp pattern or just a quick sequence to play with the real arp on top of it. 🎹☕

  • @mattwoodman3017

    @mattwoodman3017

    2 жыл бұрын

    WAIT ! You can upload .WAV samples into the minilogue xd as an Oscillator???

  • @dicefall9

    @dicefall9

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattwoodman3017 Yes you can😏 had to dig a little bit to find that out but it's possible. I wish Korg would have just provide a software editor that allows the user to import their own samples, but instead they decided to target programers with coding skills, its like selling an mpc to the mass and telling everyone; by the way, you've got to have coding skills to figure out how to import samples in your machine, which is a stupid thing to do. But thankfully, there are good people out there that have made a simple program that you can use to upload a short .wav sample into it, then save it as a korg file that you'll be able to recall in the Minilogue library manager. I have personally tested it myself with a short sample of a tenor recorder and it gives interesting results once uploaded in the minilogue as the user oscillator blended with a square wave, filters and efx. If I'm not mistaken, the link to this developper can be found on korg's website under the minilogue xd tab, the name of this program is [Wave Creator] by hammondeggs. its free of charge, but you can donate some money for the developper. there is also someone on youtube that has made a video explaining how to proceed to convert your own samples into a korg proprietary file and import it to the minilogue xd. hope this helps, I just wish korg would have made this whole process a little more user friendly for everyone. have a nice day.⌚☕

  • @mattwoodman3017

    @mattwoodman3017

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dicefall9 wow! Thank you! I was told elsewhere that it FIESNT import WAVs,just binary coded plugins. Bit this is explains it!! Nice!!! I'm battling between the xd or the Cobalt8 or Aragon8

  • @ianmorton1799

    @ianmorton1799

    Жыл бұрын

    True as long as you have of, unless there's software besides the one Hammond eggs made

  • @user-um3bx9og8r

    @user-um3bx9og8r

    9 ай бұрын

    So the cobalt does?

  • @DanChippendaleMusic
    @DanChippendaleMusic3 жыл бұрын

    I owned the Minilogue XD briefly (during a particularly nasty bout of GAS) and it was excellent but something just didn't click with me for some reason. Sold it and went 100% synth free for a period and picked up the Uno Synth Pro Desktop a few weeks ago and found the Cobalt 8M for an absolute bargain on eBay (new) so was kind of hard to turn it down. It arrives tomorrow. Can't wait to see what I can do with that and the Uno Pro. Best of both worlds I think 😎. Nice overview, thanks!

  • @BreakdanceMusic

    @BreakdanceMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    And? :P what do you think about Cobalt in comparison to XD? Do you like it, will it stay with you?

  • @surfesports1142

    @surfesports1142

    2 жыл бұрын

    How is it going with the cobalt?

  • @DanChippendaleMusic

    @DanChippendaleMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BreakdanceMusic very different really. With some effort you can make similar sounds to the XD but it's definitely geared more towards the weird end of the synth spectrum with all the abstract wave shapes and dual oscillators. I've barely touched the surface of it yet. But so far, it's added some nice tones to my music for sure

  • @DanChippendaleMusic

    @DanChippendaleMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@surfesports1142 good thanks. It's pretty wild. It's quite easy to get a sound you like, then tweak something and make it totally different in a few seconds. Great for experimentation. More of a risk during live jams. I like it though. It feels distinctly digital which is fine by me.

  • @11000038
    @110000382 жыл бұрын

    Two very different beast's in both sound and interface. I bet they compliment each other well. I got a Cobalt8x for the extended keybed and a DM12. The korg mini-keys, short keyboard and limited poly were deal breakers for me. Nice video. Subscribed.🇬🇧🇺🇦🇬🇧

  • @TheMegacrisis

    @TheMegacrisis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wich one of those would you say has more body and versatility on his Sound?

  • @lukehunnable

    @lukehunnable

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if you could help me out. I'm looking to expand my sound palette. I have a Minilogue XD, which is great, but I always fill in my productions with VSTs. I prefer hardware. I'm divided between getting a Cobalt 8, a Korg Modwave or a Sequential Take 5. I know this last one is much more expensive. But I wonder if I really need all it can do. What I need is more of an "evolving pads" synth, but which isn't "cold". Can you help me choose? Thanks Edit: I forgot to mention I'm primarily a guitarist, and also tend to include guitar in my songs

  • @iamrocketray
    @iamrocketray3 жыл бұрын

    I have just got the Minilogue Xd and when I have finished paying for it, I will be getting the Modal, just not sure if it will be the Cobalt8 or the Argon8. But no hurry as the minilogue Xd will keep me occupied for a while.

  • @pizzagogo6151
    @pizzagogo61513 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Starsky! really great overview as always. Thought the Cobalt would have it all over the Korg bUt the minilogue sounds at LOT better than I realised......I have no interest in a minilogue but this is making me seriously GAS for a Prologue😊...have you ever gotten your hands on one? If not I hope you get the chance, I’d really like to see your impression of the big brother analogue Korg!

  • @SuchaDoofus

    @SuchaDoofus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Prologue is great, but not the same! No sequencer for instance.

  • @intheblink
    @intheblink3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, the very final Minilogue XD tone was gorgeous! Is that a preset?

  • @doodletownpipers

    @doodletownpipers

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes!

  • @nigelrogers8690
    @nigelrogers86903 жыл бұрын

    2 very characterful synths, sadly the way the economy is going there maybe a lot more 2nd hand minilogues on the market soon and a lot less people able to afford retail for the cobalt. On a brighter note maybe u can do a tutorial on playing random notes, yours sound way better than mine 🤣

  • @larseikind666
    @larseikind666 Жыл бұрын

    Digital synthesis has come a long way since the 80'es Yamahas and Casios. I think both the Korg and the Modal deserve their place in their respective setups. I'm not sure any of them are right for me in person, but I see great quality in both of them.

  • @80iesDude45
    @80iesDude453 жыл бұрын

    I love both ;-)

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha.. me too!

  • @KarlMiller-DjKarl
    @KarlMiller-DjKarl Жыл бұрын

    I like the Cobalt 8 but I like the Korg effects... The full size keys on the Cobalt 8 are nice looking to me... Still going to wait and save my money as I have a decent midi controller and lots of soft synths in my DAWs... So going to shop around more going to look at the Argon 8 right now... 🎹☮🔥

  • @bombjelly5795

    @bombjelly5795

    Жыл бұрын

    That was me once. Have every soft synth and an Arturia keylab mkii and I never touch my midi controller nor the soft synths anymore. I got the minilogue xd and man that thing is my midi and my synth now. It can do any sound . You can even buy presets for it online . Cheap and they come in hundreds. Drag and drop system makes it easy to drag new sounds.

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM733 жыл бұрын

    At last, the Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks Saturday teatime face off we’ve all be waiting for! Just ordered the Modal X this afternoon (and both thanks to Andertons) my bust in transit Prologue 16 was returned. Shame, hope a new sonic joy can replace it? Certainly sounds like it.

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Saturday afternoon at my grandmothers :)

  • @DaraM73

    @DaraM73

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr your gran must’ve been way cool shredding it up on her synth?

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaraM73 :)

  • @andrewwhalley413

    @andrewwhalley413

    3 жыл бұрын

    That analogy. Is brilliant.

  • @JammyGit

    @JammyGit

    3 жыл бұрын

    Our English wrestling used to be much better than the American WWF shite.... I used to find characters like Kendo Nagasaki truly menacing when I was a kid 😆 I can still remember the old biddies in the front row booing and giving the baddies some verbal 😆 Fun fact - Big Daddy's real name was Shirley 👍

  • @timewalker_
    @timewalker_3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison. I'd be interested how the Cobalt compares to an old skool VA such as the Nord 2X, which I have and absolutely adore.

  • @borispradel1037

    @borispradel1037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Were you able to compare them? I'm on the same boat now.

  • @tapecompasqualegrieco8371
    @tapecompasqualegrieco83713 жыл бұрын

    Great video, cobalt 8 is a nuce synths but XD really stand out with third digital Osc, superb effects and (hate or love) Korg analog filter with drive saturation ❤️❤️❤️

  • @WHIPTY
    @WHIPTY3 жыл бұрын

    WHOA this is the first time I've seen YOU on video! lol

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha... been showing myself on the odd one here and there since Sumer 2020 when I started making shows for Clubbing TV. Check them out there;'s a link in the description

  • @Chriswoodworker
    @Chriswoodworker Жыл бұрын

    I play bass guitar and would love to learn keyboards. These two synths are the ones I'm looking mainly at but wanted to ask about the key sizes. Would it be better to go for the full-size keys of the Cobalt8 or if as I am, starting from scratch, would the Xd keys be fine. I mainly want to play bass on the keyboard but be able to create so synthy Bass dance music (just for myself). Hope you understand what I'm trying to say here lol.

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha. … I get you. I don’t think it’s anything to worry about. I’d get the one that suits you best. Some more traditional keyboard players don’t like the slim keys (at least I’m assuming the general grumbling come mainly from them) but they’ve never bothered me. I’d prefer larger ones but it’s never stopped me buying stuff with them.

  • @Nonpartisanmusic
    @Nonpartisanmusic2 ай бұрын

    Mr Carr, any possible chance to review the new Modal Argon8 Vintage V3 update? The herd is saying that it now sounds even better than the Cobalt which is supposed to be the actual vintage sounding synth?? I keep coming back to your reviews. Thank you.

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    2 ай бұрын

    I've not got one unfortunately. I can ask them if they're in superbooth.

  • @alexgarber7910
    @alexgarber79103 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @tonystephen6312
    @tonystephen63123 жыл бұрын

    so far the Cobolt is sweeter on the filter and more detail? up to 7:00 After that they're both equal on choice sounds :) Did you say stool! lol But the Korg stands out due to its preset seq's

  • @camlong89
    @camlong892 жыл бұрын

    I want a Monologue XD. Original Monologue, but add the effects, full adsr knobs, and a latch button.

  • @RetroPlus

    @RetroPlus

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd buy that

  • @davecjd
    @davecjd3 жыл бұрын

    I reckon Modal will do an Analogue in the same chassis as the Argon and Cobalt. Watch this space!

  • @NatLifeSounds

    @NatLifeSounds

    3 жыл бұрын

    why they didn't it before? I think it's much better to control analog than VA.

  • @everpuremusic

    @everpuremusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NatLifeSounds Because they've got the knowledge and the software from their earlier synths. And building analog synths is a completely different beast than programming a virtual analog. Not that either is better or worse. And a good VA is complex to develop too. But when everything is in the digital domain you have much more control over the details.

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego3 жыл бұрын

    Starsky, do you like or have played the Access Virus TI2? Btw, I like this Cobolt. It's like a Porsche looking synth. Sexy

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I’ve got a TI plus it’s the star of my next episode of my Clubbing TV show.. clubbingtvofficial KZread channel on the From The Studio Playlist. I’ve a link to it in the description. The Virus should be up in a week or so.

  • @sanakassara
    @sanakassara3 жыл бұрын

    Uhh, that Minilogue XD sound. Can't wait to get one.

  • @krsTBedfordStudios
    @krsTBedfordStudios3 жыл бұрын

    *Minilogue... Good call mate, this is good to see! Thanks!!

  • @user-sx2iw2hq3l
    @user-sx2iw2hq3l3 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Tallinn. I'm not very good at English, but I ask you to help me with the choice of the "first" instrument. A few months later, I return to synthesis again. I have an experience of using such synthesizers as monologue, jd-xi, but cobalt 8 and minilogue xd are new experiences for me, and I cannot choose my first instrument. How much harder it is to program cobalt 8 and use it from minilogue. thank you

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the Cobalt 8 could really help here, as you can see exactly what’s going on. So possibly the Cobalt in this case :)

  • @user-sx2iw2hq3l

    @user-sx2iw2hq3l

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr thank you. I'm glad to hear exactly this position 😊

  • @airpockit6933
    @airpockit69332 жыл бұрын

    Betamax or VHS? Great machines, tricky choice.

  • @TimBunch
    @TimBunch2 жыл бұрын

    The Cobalt to me sounds more controlled and compressed. The Minilogue is more of a raw synth. Both are great, hard to pick just one.

  • @frankstetka7206

    @frankstetka7206

    5 ай бұрын

    The best simple summery overall and best to have both 🥳🤣

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean448111 ай бұрын

    14:55 B.O.C in a box. Realisation at bass comparison at 16:30. "The cobalt can create some beautiful low end". I will take both synths and a mojito please thank you

  • @sailingstar8176
    @sailingstar81764 ай бұрын

    For me, the key difference between these is not the sound, but the user interface. The Korg is pretty much knob-per-function, so you can see how the parameters are forming the sound immediately. The Modal is, well, modal, in that many of the knobs have dual functions, for example there is only one set of envelope controls for the three envelopes. When synths went digital, some immediacy was lost, and that slows down the creative process. If I can't change a sound quickly, I'm less likely to experiment and find interesting things, so sound design becomes more considered, more thought through in advance. It's like the difference between making music on you own with a DAW, and improvising with other musicians (which I find much more stimulating, because there are more surprises, more innovation).

  • @heisaddison
    @heisaddison2 ай бұрын

    I have a couple good pair of monitors in my studio.. listening to these two side by side is like night and day. I can have my back turned to the screen and hear the difference in timbre immediately... minilogue xd just sounds so lush even though it may have less wave modulation capabilities seeing that it's analogue... but holy cow... for it's price i don't think it can be beat by any va synth... i think you'd have to step up to hydrasynth or peak to start getting any fair comparison in sound if you were to try and match the minilogue xd to a virtual analog.

  • @tahiche.
    @tahiche.2 жыл бұрын

    I’m a synth knoob. Thought I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference, but it turns out it’s pretty obvious!. I like the Minilogue sound 100 times better.

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore32363 ай бұрын

    The XD and the Argon would make a nice pair … 🤔

  • @PeterWalkerHP16c
    @PeterWalkerHP16c3 жыл бұрын

    They're both really nice machines. However the Co8 has an *_big_* edge in specs albeit at a 30% price increase. The analogue to digital thing is all twaddle - especially whith judgement based on a digital youtube mp4 container. Obviously a really good equaliser will do exactly what it's name suggests in that regard. (unless like some commentators you have x-ray vision and can count the cycles in concert B♭) Given my givens, I would like to have BOTH!! :-)

  • @Almanacs
    @Almanacs3 жыл бұрын

    Now my GAS got even worse. Thanks for the video!

  • @audioartisan
    @audioartisan3 жыл бұрын

    I have 11 filters in my XD. 10 Mod FX user digital filters including Comb , BP, LP, HP, BR and of course the VCF being #11. If the Cobalt had a VCF instead of a DCF, I would probably get it. But with the ability to have user FX and Oscillators (My 16 Osc are full!), I would always choose the XD over the Cobalt. The Cobalt sounds nice though.

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I’ve got a few filters in there as well... such a good idea!

  • @audioartisan

    @audioartisan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr And I forgot to say Thanks for such a great video, so let me correct that :) Thank you for this :D

  • @Catmemegod

    @Catmemegod

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the four automation lanes 🤪 but I am biased as an xd owner

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha... yeah, but trying to focus in the synths here.. otherwise it’d go on for hours!

  • @souljer0

    @souljer0

    3 жыл бұрын

    What are your favorite user oscillators??

  • @Phoniq
    @Phoniq5 ай бұрын

    The Korg has this juicy saturated fatness to it that really cuts through

  • @BTsMusicChannel
    @BTsMusicChannel3 жыл бұрын

    i have the original monologue...that's for reminding me that it has presets :D

  • @jimalciere7988
    @jimalciere79882 жыл бұрын

    I need 5 octaves, full size keys, and aftertouch, so for the comparison would have to be with the deepmind. Build quality is important because I gig. Both these synths sound lovely.

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s always the full sized Cobalt and Prologue. I’ve not got either though ☺️

  • @jimalciere7988

    @jimalciere7988

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr yes the prologue is real nice, but no aftertouch, sigh

  • @11000038

    @11000038

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a bit of a noob but have both Cobalt8x and a deepmind12. Love both. Both very playable, both have strength and weaknesses. If I could keep just one it be the erm, both! Lol.

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@11000038 haha... and that's the truth!

  • @galifettetv1238

    @galifettetv1238

    Жыл бұрын

    Deepminds filter is nasty

  • @2112jonr
    @2112jonr3 жыл бұрын

    Cobalt 8, every time. So much richer.

  • @clay_oakley

    @clay_oakley

    3 жыл бұрын

    it depends ofc, but richer ain’t always better (although I feel like the xd can b plenty rich). If u have a song with multiple elements, a very rich sound can take away so much of the other parts to the point it gets messy and muddy. It’s just like food, a dish is so much better than the individual parts by themselves, and if one overpowers the others it can taste rly bad rly fast.

  • @mh22xv
    @mh22xv Жыл бұрын

    The modal has a premium fatar keybed. But the Korg ones are ok, even if they’re small.

  • @sajp8859
    @sajp88593 жыл бұрын

    ‘Standard Vintage Analog Poly’ = SC’s Prophet 6. Where’ve you been, me lad? Korg Kiddies-sorry-it’s the Cobalt 8M all the way with crazy-good editing SW and Zero beat voice stealing. but I have one of each, just in case 😂😁 Thanks Starkers 👍😎

  • @SandcastleTheory
    @SandcastleTheory3 жыл бұрын

    The voice pan-spread on the Cobalt was very distracting for the purposes of direct comparison. Cheers!

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM732 жыл бұрын

    Ever poly-chained the Cobalt?

  • @TooSlowTube
    @TooSlowTube3 жыл бұрын

    I'd be more likely to buy the opsix if it had the same keys as the Minilogue XD. If they'd added a few more mini keys to fill the extra width, that would have been ideal. The XD has textured black keys, which I prefer to the Reface black keys because my fingers don't slip off them. They're my favourite mini keys so far. My least favourite mini keys were also made by Korg though - on the MicroKontrol 37 keyboard controller, which are the same ones as on the MicroKorg. Those are terrible for anything involving velocity, or playing chords needing black keys with finger tips close to the top end of the keys.

  • @michaelmoore9870
    @michaelmoore98703 жыл бұрын

    My ears prefer the XD in just about every comparison. Great helpful video!

  • @ZvookUK
    @ZvookUK3 жыл бұрын

    You mention user wavetables but you could also have mentioned the user FX on the Minilogue too - you can get digital filters if you think the XD is lacking say a hi pass or notch...

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good point - I’m sure do mention them somewhere.

  • @ZvookUK

    @ZvookUK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr Ah Ok - I must have just missed it. Thanks for the review btw v interesting comparison.

  • @LYSHEmusic
    @LYSHEmusic3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this demo. Can I ask, why Cobalt sounds stereo even on initial patch ?

  • @modelslacker

    @modelslacker

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s because the width is defaulted to 100%.

  • @joshuaroland6446
    @joshuaroland64462 жыл бұрын

    I just sold my xd. It had a few good sounds, but honestly I found running it in monophonic mode was its strength. It's almost a caricature of what is expected of analog synths, and as not much of a keyboard player I even found the polyphony to be limiting. I feel the oscillators are better on the cobalt, even though digital, which I never really expected. I'm noticing as I get older and more experienced, it's the oscillators that make the synth more than the filters(imho).

  • @maxus15
    @maxus158 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @rodrocolodro
    @rodrocolodro Жыл бұрын

    thanks for the comparison... what about hardware? i mean.... keys, knobs, weight, etc

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re both built well. Nothing notable in the differences - maybe why I didn’t mention it.

  • @rodrocolodro

    @rodrocolodro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr thank you again! one last question about de cobalt... i dont like the blue panel at all... the argon is really so different to the cobalt if i want to emulate something like this for example kzread.info/dash/bejne/oHZoo497iNGXfKw.html ??? because i didn't find a solid review about the both modal synths differences... i mean... why there's two of them hahaha?! the presets are so similar....... should i buy the argon instead of the cobalt? i dont have the option yo try them, just am online purchase..... :(

  • @apislapis
    @apislapis3 жыл бұрын

    In recent years I've moved away from using VSTis and playing music inside the box to hardware with it's immediacy, hands-on tweakability. Perhaps it's because I'm old skool (or just old), but I find it in many ways disappointing that neither of these synths have managed to break away from the virtual world. Perhaps it's because I spend all day chained to a PC at work that I don't find the prospect of being chained in my leisure time to a computer to be enthralling (supposedly a period of fun and pleasure not work which can often be a period of drudgery). There's something more appealing to me for it to be standalone hardware. I don't have to wait for an operating system to boot up, remember a password or potentially find the software unexpectedly corrupted. I switch it on and it takes a couple of seconds to work. That's just my opinion and I'm sure others will disagree, and they have every right to do so. Still, bloody good vid Starsky!

  • @StarskyCarr

    @StarskyCarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, do you not consider the analog oscillators, filters and amps in the Minilogue to have broken away from virtual?

  • @apislapis

    @apislapis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StarskyCarr Yes in the sense of analogue circuitry and no in the sense we are using software in the 'virtual' computer world to get at what is under the hood. I guess it is a little better than menu diving and a small screen like the 90s? When inspiration comes you need to be able to work on it quickly before it goes, so swiching on a PC tends to kill it for me. Each to their own. There is no one path to creativity I suppose. Besides, not all activity involving a PC is bad or else, why do I regularly watch your channel?

  • @Catmemegod

    @Catmemegod

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@apislapis to your same point then wouldn’t you want to be able to recal your patches digitally so that you don’t have to spend 10 minutes tweaking knobs to change the patch? The minilogue is analogue circuitry , oscillators , envelope and filter. You don’t need a computer to play it. . You just need power Chord and headphones.

  • @apislapis

    @apislapis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Catmemegod Perhaps I'm not making myself clear here. I'm not bothered about whether the keyboard is analogue or digital. I'm quite happy for the patches to be saved digitally. I would like all the controls for the synthesiser to be available on the synthesiser and not have to use a Mac or PC, so as you say I can just switch the synth on and play. I used the word 'disappointing' which is how I find it having made a conscious choice to build a hardware set up.

  • @henryhill92

    @henryhill92

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@apislapis I owned a Minilogue for 2 years and I never once had to use a computer to change a setting. What are you talking about?

  • @fjfrancois
    @fjfrancois3 жыл бұрын

    4:16 Minilogue XD 👍🏻

  • @jesuscuadrado2920
    @jesuscuadrado29203 жыл бұрын

    I had tu return my Minilogue XD back because its constant losing of tune. I think the Cobalt sounds better to me (It's totally my personal taste) and it has a wider range of sounds than the Korg (apart from de 8 voices). Congratulations for your video!

  • @75Pollux

    @75Pollux

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same issue with the xd, but finally I've choose to keep it. Func+ rec and it's Ok for a moment, depend to the weather !

  • @rui5421
    @rui54212 жыл бұрын

    A wise meme once said “why not both?”

  • @crazzylee
    @crazzylee2 жыл бұрын

    Korg!

  • @disarmsox
    @disarmsox3 жыл бұрын

    How did you learn to play keys/synths ?

  • @terrycast
    @terrycast3 жыл бұрын

    Both sound very good, but... KORG synths always have those awful reset-to-zero envelopes. Makes slow attack/release settings far less useful. PLEASE KORG, learn how to code proper envelopes!

  • @JordanService

    @JordanService

    3 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean I use slow attack and release... are you meaning you cant use slow attack with a quick release... I dont seem to have this issue with mine or I am not getting what you are talking about.

  • @alanmcgowan8767
    @alanmcgowan87673 жыл бұрын

    The build quality of the cobalt8 is far superior to the korg and the fatar keybed is amazing for this price bracket. I thought the korg sounded slightly harsh.......if that's your thing then cool.

  • @SuchaDoofus

    @SuchaDoofus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I know the Korg XD personally and it is NOT harsh at all.

  • @DJMikeron
    @DJMikeron3 жыл бұрын

    Sold my Minilogue and got the Cobalt a great synth

  • @fjfrancois

    @fjfrancois

    3 жыл бұрын

    You sold your jar of almost pure raw sugar to get a jar of nasty aspartame sugar? Wow

  • @IvoMusicOfficial

    @IvoMusicOfficial

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bad decision , Man really? Minilogue is far better on top then Argon or Cobalt8 , reacher , pure analog depth and fatness. I'm really sorry to people losing a Diamond Of synthezizer.

  • @SuchaDoofus

    @SuchaDoofus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IvoMusicOfficial Why argue about personal taste?

  • @IvoMusicOfficial

    @IvoMusicOfficial

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SuchaDoofus You re write , we can t argue about taste , but still , really giving away the minilogue king ? :) Mannn , damn. Anyway , i wish you great inspiration.

  • @thelastgatoo3089
    @thelastgatoo30893 жыл бұрын

    ✅ Cobalt vs Opsix? Which is more... Cyberpunk? 😳

  • @perezparra86
    @perezparra866 ай бұрын

    Make a 4 octaves please (4) no 3 .

  • @fjfrancois
    @fjfrancois3 жыл бұрын

    Minilogue XD Forever 👍🏻

  • @tonylyons7711
    @tonylyons77113 жыл бұрын

    Having spent many years using analogue synthesizers and in the late 80s moving on with the digital revolution...My conclusion is that digital sounds however well they are masked always have a metallic flavour, just like the difference between mp3s & CDs, compared with vinyl records.. my final decision is that analogue is a much warmer experience! Even when it is Raw... So for me the korg wins!.. ps But I do understand the attraction of a much cheaper format with digital technology. .

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