CNC Machining an aluminum part with HPC tools | Hermle C400 | 5x moves
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Just Machining - 07
In this video I will show you the CNC machining process of an aluminum part including some iMachinig Jobs and a nice 5x chamfering at the end
The part will completely done in one setup. The cutted surfaces needed to be pretty rough as it will be coated with rubber.
⚠️ Please do not mill / drill / cut aluminum dry! This is just for video reasons and will kill your tools and parts. ⚠️
-- Technical details --
material - EN AW - 6082 3.2315 (AlMgSi1)
machine - Hermle C400 - bit.ly/3qQ3h6W
vise - Allmatic Telecentric - K - bit.ly/3qMVDdK
CAM - SolidCAM 2021 SP2 - bit.ly/36gnCZN
-- my video setup * --
camera: amzn.to/2SP5ymm
SSD: amzn.to/3yrRj65
Macro lens: amzn.to/3hWAYQz
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The left over at the end is 0,15mm, so the part is easy to take off
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0:00 Intro
0:16 face mill - Hoffmann - D50-Z5 - 214857 bit.ly/3BsI73L
0:25 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D15.8 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
0:37 HPC reamer - Hoffmann - 16H7 - 164346 bit.ly/2SSaiYD
0:51 MTC end Mill - Hoffmann - D16-Z3 - 202244 bit.ly/3qO5LTm
1:46 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D9.8 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
2:07 MTC end Mill - Hoffmann - D8-Z3 - 202244 bit.ly/3qO5LTm
2:28 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D5.2 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
2:42 HPC drill 6xD - Hoffmann - D4.65 - 122602 bit.ly/3xzpDMV
2:58 MTC end Mill - Hoffmann - D4-Z3 - 202244 bit.ly/3qO5LTm
3:42 MTC end Mill - Hoffmann - D8-Z3 - 202244 bit.ly/3qO5LTm
4:03 Fluteless tap - Hoffmann - M5 - 139171 bit.ly/2TVlFj4
4:22 corner rounding - Hoffmann - R3 - 208020 bit.ly/3dRsyZs
4:41 chamfer cutter 90° - Hoffmann - D6 - 208070 bit.ly/2THDgur (5x moves)
5:50 parting off - Hoffmann - D125x1.5 - 218428 bit.ly/3eKjBBF
6:19 finished part
Thank You for your Time!
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Endlich wieder! 😅 Hab's ja schon oft gesagt: Finde, dass diese Videoreihe mit zu den besten Zerspanungsvideos gehört. Vor allem, weil's einfach ohne Gesabbel und Musik daherkommt, sondern in O-Ton. 👍 Just CNC-Po*n!
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
danke! a gscheiter Span braucht kei Musik! 😂
@dieMukumuku
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC Ja so schaut's aus!
Drill operations are insane 🔥
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
i love those drills 😍
@alexkern9134
3 жыл бұрын
It's fun seeing .6mmpr!
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexkern9134 Ohhh yes :)
Ist immer wieder schön zu sehen wie schnell man in Alu fahren kann, ich mach in der Arbeit 80%VA, da sind deine Videos eine tolle Abwechslung 👍🏻🍻
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
vielen Dank! Ja Alu ist spitze zu zerspanen :)
Loved watching this video. All the rotations with the machining are so, so cool.
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I run CNC machines for a living, and those drills are scarier than they look, and yes, that video is not sped up
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
The drills are amazing, when you first buy them you pee your pants by entering the speed and feeds, cause you think it gonna break and you will loose $$$
Running those drills like you're mad at them!
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
more like beeing in love with them 😂
@Cassiusisback
3 жыл бұрын
not letting them play to their full potential would be an absolute shame :) like a ferrari in a traffic jam.
@chrisyboy666
3 жыл бұрын
Why he’s only cutting ally…hardly a difficult to cut…could run faster if needed…all about getting the swarf evacuated when cutting soft material…
großartige Maschine...großartige Werkzeuge...für großartige Teile!
@BavariaCNC
2 жыл бұрын
So siehts aus! 🙌
Good machining and video as usual.
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!!!
Rigid tapping M5 at 2300 RPM seems like heaven to me, working on Doosan Lynx 220LM haha
Good Job with good Cutting Tools
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
thank you! :)
This is awesome content and I really appreciate the editing work you put into it, having to compost between multiple parts with the holes already drilled so that the coolant isnt all over the table... yeah...
👌🏼🔝💯
@heizerbirne5892
3 жыл бұрын
Noch ein CNC Junkie :D
@RS-2480
3 жыл бұрын
Ist Deine noch nicht da, @Subi Performance?
Thank you, your video is a source of inspiration, I want to invest in a cut-off cutter, but I hesitate between a mimatic polysaw and an insert cutter, I see that you use both, can you tell me the advantages and disadvantages of each?
Also bin ja Industriemechanikerin aber bei so ner 5 Achs zuzusehen wie bei dir is anders Satisfying 🙌
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank :) Ja da hab ich auch Spaß bei der Arbeit.
great video! how much material have you left for your tab? also on other videos I saw that you used an indexable mill with imachining. Can you make a video of how you program that?
good job
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
You'd almost think it isn't a drill but a waterjet. Sooo fast!
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that drill is outstanding, I needed to manually push the cooling button for the video (otherwise you won't see anything) I nearly peed myself to get the button pushed during the process :))
nicht mal angeschaut und schon geliked :)
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 👍 danke
Lovely chamfer 5x ..perfect there 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Love how it was all nice and steady until the end where you just rammed the part off tool straight into the part lol
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
yes it is a pretty rough cut 😁
good video
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
Hmm looks like Bavaria has moved up from just being Chocolateers! :)
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
chocolatiers? more like sausageiers :))
@alexkern9134
3 жыл бұрын
Bier!
When you show tapping operations, there is oil on the taps. How does it get there? Do you lube the taps off-camera? Thanks for the great videos!
@BavariaCNC
2 жыл бұрын
Yes for filming i pre-lube :)
How long does it take you to film and edit a video? Btw good Job, those drills cut so fast!
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
thank you! I also love those drills, a bit weird to film as they are finished before you realize it is drilling :)) one video incl. all editing is one day
That hole being blasted at 5000mm/min. I could watch that all day long. lol I had to edit this. So I get to the end and realize that the blasted hole was the finished product. It was in spec! I don't think my very modified Syil can do that with its 3.5kw 18000 rpm spindle.
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
the sad thing is, before you realize what is going on the hole is done :) good thing, you can watch it twice :)) and yes 3,5KW may be not enough, I think it took me around 40% spindle load (20KW spindle) and your machine should be pretty stable
@toast47624
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC My machine is a toy compared to what you are running. The High speed spindle has been an awesome up grade and for a home hobby machine it gets incredibly good finishes and moves a bit of material. But in the end its a toy. I love your videos keep them coming. Especially insane stuff like this.
I see you are using a 5 axis vise and zero point system from Hoffman, is that right ? How does it compare with a setup from Lang ?
super Video😁👍 hab mich schon gefragt wann wieder was von dir kommt😅 (und hast du eigentlich schon einen Upload-Plan oder ist das immer unterschiedlich?)
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
freut mich riesig zu hören. derzeit ist der Plan ein „just machining“ video pro Woche. aber das ist stark abhängig von meiner Produktion. wenn ich kein neues Teil habe oder eines fertige was ich nicht zeigen kann / darf dann zieht es sich auch mal etwas länger hin. aber ich arbeite an einem Puffer um sowas auszugleichen :)
Did I miss something, where did the tap get oil on it from? Charles
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
no no your eyes are all good 👍 I just pre oiled the holes before the tapping. in normal Production I just use coolant so for the video i oiled them as running dry is too much for my nerves 😬
@TheEvalChicken
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC the oil was inside the aluminium before you drilled it hahah
@ipadize
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEvalChicken pre-oiled aluminium
@TheEvalChicken
3 жыл бұрын
@@ipadize right hahah
@Bavaria CNC with this parting off method what tolerances can u reach ?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
nothing good, it is a real rough job if I need to make a plane job on the Cutted surface I will have Tobias 0,3-0,4mm extra to get a good surface
Wenn der Bohrvorgang gefühlt nur 2 frames entspricht.. - herrlich :)
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
👍 danke!
Des schaut echt guat aus, die Bohrer nutze ich auch gerne, da spart man sich viel Zeit :)
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Danke, ja die Bohrer sind echt super!
@Thorfit
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC Hast du mal die 205250 Probiert? Wir nehmen gerne den 4er und 20er zum schruppen, da hat man auch ein irres Zeit/Spanvolumen.
Love your videos. What cam system are u using?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
thank you! I use Solid CAM
wunderschön 👍
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Danke!!
Echt sehr schön gefilmt! Bei den Anzahl an Werkzeugwechseln überlege ich aber, wäre da nicht ein 5x-Robodrill, Brother o.ä. wesentlich schneller (Span-zu-Span)? Hat dann halt nicht so viele Magazinplätze wie die C400, aber braucht man die wenn man vor allem Alu verarbeitet? Anders gefragt - würdest du wieder zur Hermle greifen? Hat die Hermle eigentlich ein Programm zum Vorsortieren der Werkzeuge im Magazin?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
vielen Dank :))
Welche Toleranz hatte die geriebene Bohrung? Die Oberfläche wirkt auf dem Video so wellig. Ist das normal bei den hohen Vc-Werten für Hartmetall-Reibahlen?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
die hatH7. ich weis was du meinst mit der Oberfläche, ich kann die aber versichern die ist super glatt. die reibahlen machen so komische schwarze Ringe beim ausfahren, wenn ich langsam ausfahre sind die deutlich weniger. Hat aber keinen Einfluss auf rz oder die Genauigkeit. Beim eloxieren verschwinden die ebenfalls von daher fahr ich auch schnell aus der Passung aus.
@fabianberger5348
3 жыл бұрын
Bekommst du keine Probleme mit dem Verzug und somit eine Maßänderung, sobald du mit dem Schaftfräser die Bohrung "öffnest" Ich kenne das z.B. von 8H7 Toleranzen, dort führt jede Kleinigkeit zu Ausschuss. Wirklich faszinierend, dass du anscheinend solch eine Prozesssicherheit hast. Danke für die schnelle Antwort und den super content!🤝
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
@@fabianberger5348 ich hab du danken :) und die mashaltigkeit geht. Bei Alu hatte ich da noch nicht soo die große Probleme, bei Stahl eher mal.
Since the table has to tilt, it doesn't look like the tool changer is far enough away from the table to get creative with oversize parts and make use of the space available. There's a lot of X travel space between the A Axis supports for various stuff, and odd shaped parts. Being limited to essentially just the table diameter kinda sucks.
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Yes the machine has an amazing room to work with. The table is good and bad, but I agree that if I would order the machine again I would buy it with the smaller table option.
Wie viel Minuten dauert es bis ein Teil komplett fertig ist? Und wie viel schaffst du an einem Tag?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Die Laufzeit stimmt mit der im Video ganz gut überein, es läuft ca. 6 Minuten. Am Tag kommen je nach dem wie lange ich mach so 90-100 zusammen
I will Manufacture sus304 on the Okuma 5-axis. So I need a diameter 80 disk mill How about a Seco Disc Mill for the sus304 last operation parting?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Seco Disc Mills are high quality just ask your application engineer for the right insert.
@policebox1092
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC Thank you!
Nice work, Spectacular drills! Part off looked, ahhh, less than optimum. There are times a second set up is worth it, eh?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
I love the drills, too. The parting off is Ok for this specific job. The tool really hate getting in dry, but the surface requirement for this parts are super low on that surface, the customer want it really rough as it will get coated and it will help for better coating.
@captcarlos
3 жыл бұрын
I can see a rough textured finish would help the keying of epoxy glue for a better bond. The movement of the job as the cutter broke through the left side worried me. In another vid you cut 48% through from both sides, which seemed more stable...
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
@@captcarlos true cutting from 2 sides will help the process a lot, also i could slow down the feed. But this is one of those rare parts where roughness is good :)
@alexkern9134
3 жыл бұрын
Ever try an indexable saw? We like them.
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexkern9134 this one is indexable :)
Did you Open the door or you just have a clean glass door?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
an offical answer would have to sound like "it is unsafe to operate your machine with open doors" :))
@j3lly069
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC it is clearly unsafe. But its awsome. Love from Rapidenterprises
Eine Frage hät ich dazu, Du Bohrst ja erst deine Gewinde Löcher, Schneidest Gewide und entgratest dann das Gewinde, verdrückst du dir dabei nicht nen Gewindegang ? Oder hast andere Probleme dabei ?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
Der Prozess ist soweit super, der Entgrater ist ein recht scharfes Werkzeug, also eher ein Fasenfräser wie ein Entgrater, daher ist es ein sauberer Schnitt und mit dem Gewinde ist alles in Ordnung.
@petrosiliuszwackelmann8857
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC dachte als Holzwurm immer, Ihr Metaller müsstet das immer andersherum machen, also zuerst senken und dann schneiden. XD Würde die andere die Reihenfolge im Programmablauf einen Unterschied machen?
@tablegamer2345
3 жыл бұрын
@@petrosiliuszwackelmann8857 Naja man kann schon den Anbohrer Nehmen und so Weit Anbohren das nach dem eigentlichen Bohren die Fase Da ist. Aber wenn die Oberfläche Eben ist geht's Einfach Rein mim Bohrer auch ^^
was für eine Stückzahl habt ihr zB bei diesem Teil?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
bei dem sind es 300
@jonijoni12345
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC bei der Stückzahl automatisiert mit Roboter oder wie macht ihr es?
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonijoni12345 noch nicht, vor corona wollte ich dem Sprung zur automation machen aber dann kam alles anders :) jetzt warte ich mal ab was bis Januar sich alles ändert dann wäre das eine Option
Usually i use 250m/min on alluminium, how the heck you reach 1350?!? 😰😰
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
it really depend on the tool if it is possible or not.
@EngineeringSpareTime
3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video back then: 785 m/min with a modular end mill kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3mcurCzltG1gaw.html Today even 2k m/min and more are possible - crazy. And yes I agree, even 250 m/min seems already fast :)
Tapping with 2300 rpm .. jees
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
this is the way 👍
Подарите фрезу!)
@BavariaCNC
3 жыл бұрын
някой ще трябва да ми даде малко за това :)
@ImahoRocket3
3 жыл бұрын
@@BavariaCNC на то он и подарок что его дарят)
3 min milling and 4 min tool changing.