CNC Machined Aluminum Filler Cap and Bung -- HAAS TM-1 Machining a 3" threaded aluminum filler cap with matching weld-on bung on a HAAS TM-1 CNC milling machine.
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@Kiboz200011 жыл бұрын
fantastic video
@Tops87211 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@Martin-we1rm9 жыл бұрын
very nice!
@Kiboz200011 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL
@ammagato11 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC!
@orthobangalore11 жыл бұрын
Thats nice
@HomeGuitarMods11 жыл бұрын
So cool!
@jasminegomez847011 жыл бұрын
nice!
@FluffMuncher9 жыл бұрын
awesome!!! if only i won tatts id have a haas sitting in the garage.. hehe
@towmotornoises11 жыл бұрын
I'm brand new to the whole world of machining and hopefully starting work at a small job shop in a few weeks with family. I'm not a machinist and I'm not familiar with machining or CNC work, but at the beginning of the video - the red matchstick looking dude that comes down and checks the metal - is that the CNC machine indicating the part? I'm doing as much reading and video-watching as I can to get familiar with this fascinating career.
@tylerdobdob2311 жыл бұрын
Damn. That gave me a woody.
@BenHarbach11 жыл бұрын
the problem with altin is that aluminum is in the coating and that the cutter will load up with material over time. zrn coated is best for aluminum. razorsharpgrindingcom is where i get all my cutters. check out their prices on aluminum cutters.
@atomkinder6710 жыл бұрын
Now make one out of 304 stainless! ;-)
@JonProce11 жыл бұрын
Hi Charles, thanks for the comment. A high-helix non-coated three flute end mill would be idea for 6061 aluminum like that being machine here, but it's not what was used for this part. Both of the half inch end mills you see in the first two operations are AlTiN coated 4 flutes, one rougher and one finisher. They're more suited for ferrous materials, but with sufficient lubrication and reduced feeds they did well enough!
@silvertourist10 жыл бұрын
Impressive - love the probe setting! want one for my TM-1
@samboles87969 жыл бұрын
I've been machining and programming for the last 20 Years another 10 years manual machining. You obviously know what you're Doing
@lavachemist
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good tool path but I think he has suicidal fingers.
@charlesharris553311 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon!
@stuntevie11 жыл бұрын
damn smooth thread
@keminvent11 жыл бұрын
TM-1P?
@JonProce11 жыл бұрын
That is a Renishaw probe. It is setting the part origin location within the machine. This can be done manually as well!
@huntermachinery10 жыл бұрын
How about sending me that file, and tool list... lol-Seriously though, great work, well thought out. Haas TM-2P, probing daily
@Brysey1911 жыл бұрын
Thats god damn beautiful.
@250ExplorerVideos8 жыл бұрын
The speed is amazing! Quite the machine you have Jon
@poxenham
8 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you, it's sped up :(
@250ExplorerVideos
8 жыл бұрын
Ahh man, could have let me go and I woulda believed it. Do you run a shop?
@seanweber17844 жыл бұрын
Are you still machining?
@JonProce11 жыл бұрын
4 flute AlTin coated carbide. Certainly not idea for aluminum but it did the trick!
@duramaxmak10 жыл бұрын
Nice job.
@JonProce10 жыл бұрын
It's a half inch chamfer tool, and there is a 1/8" lip between the edge of the grip and the thread boss. Impossible to deburr all the way around the part. Plus, once the part is flipped it's not longer is proper alignment. The machine just knows it's round, it doesn't know exactly how the finger wells of the cap are oriented without building new soft jaws that locate it.
@JonProce11 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MHStudios00111 жыл бұрын
Man that's nice!
@backyardcnc10 жыл бұрын
can you tell me about the threadmilling tool you are using and who supplies it? Thanks Gerald
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
Can't remember where it came from. It's just a single-point 3/4" thread mill. Should be able to find one from your favourite supplier!
@Ryder517210 жыл бұрын
Never blow chips during a tool change, add a M01 after the tools run when your spindle is occupied to clean if you're having trouble with running over chips.
@eaglegage
10 жыл бұрын
No, it's fine to blow chips off during a tool change. I do it every day and no problems.
@G53X0Y0Z0
10 жыл бұрын
It's a bad idea to blow chips around during a tool change, they get between the toolholder and spindle and cause tool runout and possibly spindle and tool holder damage. Aluminum isn't as bad as steel, but still a bad idea. A M01 in the program is one option, or setting 42 can be enabled on Haas machines to automatically halt after every tool change and resume by pressing cycle start.
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
G53X0Y0Z0 Keeping the program time down is probably worth it in most instances for a lot of machinists. But yes, chips in the spindle taper bore are bad. Doesn't mean most guys don't still do it.
@G53X0Y0Z0
10 жыл бұрын
If you are using CAD/CAM software, and I believe you are, then you might be able to customize the post to add a M01 after or right before every tool change. If you can't do that, then it doesn't take long to manually add it to programs. Setting 42 is still a good option if you have it, and is what I use when I want to pause the program after the tool changes. Normally I don't worry about it except for proving out a program. My machines have enough coolant flow and pressure to flush the chips from the parts, and we usually are machining many pieces in each cycle and we let the machine run without close supervision. One strategy is to choose the order of operations to help ensure coolant gets to where you want. On the second operations of your oil filler cap, machining the inner bore first would leave a wider flat to help funnel more coolant volume to the cutter. Also, a nozzle on the coolant line might help increase the velocity and remove more of the chips, but I suspect it was removed because you have an open machine a coolant sprayed all over.
@rumpelschtutz9 жыл бұрын
Why was the thread milled from the bottom to the top?
@JonProce
9 жыл бұрын
To maintain a conventional machining direction after going from an outside thread to an inside thread. If it had gone from top to bottom it would have been climb milling.
@therubbersidedown
9 жыл бұрын
Jon Proce You've got that backwards unless your cutter is spinning CCW. Both of the threads you milled you climb cut.
@JonProce
9 жыл бұрын
I meant to say climb milling in my previous post. Climb cut is typical on a ball-screw CNC as the backlash is practically eliminated. "Conventional" milling is typically only used on manual machines.
@ydna8 жыл бұрын
cool part - you just need a thread relief on the cap so it can bottom out nice and tight!
@Micah_Makes
8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Ydna DuBuc Nope, he needs to put an o-ring gland so that it'll seal up ;)
@ydna
8 жыл бұрын
+mmcma006 that too!
@vejymonsta300610 жыл бұрын
magic
@diedbadly
9 жыл бұрын
*snort snort*
@user-px2st9bd6e9 жыл бұрын
先生你好、你加工刀路很棒,我想问你是用什么软件编程出来那么优秀的作品、 Hello sir, you machining tool path is great, I want to ask you what software programming so excellent works,
@antshark11 жыл бұрын
Nice work! I noticed some of the video is sped up. Are the machining portions of the video actual speed? What were some of the feeds and rpm rates?
@stillbashingmetal9 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Did you anodize the finished item?
@charlesharris553311 жыл бұрын
Nice work Jon! What kind of end mill are you using milling the first operation. Is it a high helix two or three flute carbide?
@poxenham8 жыл бұрын
When you wish your tm was a vf so you just speed up the video 😂👌
@PabloXC11 жыл бұрын
Great work. Have you used any CAM software to program it?
@JonProce11 жыл бұрын
2003 TM1
@markrichardson2398 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! What coolant do you run? Thanks, Mark
@TSMundora6 жыл бұрын
Did you do one run on the threads?
@chesterqw10 жыл бұрын
wow this is nice! have you tried making parts trapezoidal threads?
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
Like an ACME thread?
@chesterqw
10 жыл бұрын
yea something like that :)
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
chester chua Wouldn't be any different than any other thread with this machine. No fourth axis so you're restricted to using thread mills, just need to get the right profile!
@chesterqw
10 жыл бұрын
interesting
@ChromedOutDubs10 жыл бұрын
This is impressive! Do you own this mill personally or do you get the benefit of working at a company which allows you to use it. Lately iv been thinking about investing in one of the HAAS smaller machines! Love the capabilities of these. Now I just need to find a product to make to justify the purchase! Well great video man, keep up the good work and make some more machining videos for us!
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky enough to have a good friend with whom I spend a lot of time who owns the machine. The investment isn't TOO out of this world when you're shopping around for older machines, but they're still quite expensive! Let me know if you find that magic product that pays off the machine. Been searching for that for years ;)
@ChromedOutDubs
10 жыл бұрын
What a lucky guy! Free use of CNC is a dream for me, haha. Looking at the TM series HAAS machines, they really are not too expensive. Especially shopping for a used machine like you said. Do you see much advantage of the TM-1 vs. the TM-1P, looks to be the only difference between the two are the rapids. On a side note, would you be willing to do some prototype services for me? Let me know.
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
ChromedOutDubs An enclosure is the only thing I'd REALLY like to have on the TM1. And yes, couldn't hurt to chat at the least. I'll message you.
@horseshoe_nc
8 жыл бұрын
+ChromedOutDubs Look at a Hurco VM-1 or VM-10, same machine just changed model numbers when they went from 16 to 20 station ATC. The Hurco Control is a breeze to program. The New control OS can do Limited Engagement (High Speed) tool paths with conversational programming. And many older machines can be updated to the latest version. Hurco USA has a KZread channel, you should check it out.
@carias40410 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, since Haas TM1 can do 12 inches at Y Axis, does that mean that's the maximum diameter I can mill on a piece is 12"? Or I can do bigger pieces? Thanks
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
Maximum diameter would be 12". You could do wider than 12 though. Keep in mind the table only MOVES 12", so the usable work envelope has to account for the width of the tool. That max size you can actually machine may actually be around 10 or 11 at the most.
@jasonwilliams67719 жыл бұрын
do u have plans for this????
@sn0wchyld9 жыл бұрын
how much is this vid sped up? nice cap btw.
@kahatoweta8 жыл бұрын
beautiful work, I would like to know few about, how can I ask with u?
@TheFILLERNECKSUPPLY11 жыл бұрын
Jon, I want this product in my store, What company makes this?
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fantastic video
Very nice!
very nice!
BEAUTIFUL
FANTASTIC!
Thats nice
So cool!
nice!
awesome!!! if only i won tatts id have a haas sitting in the garage.. hehe
I'm brand new to the whole world of machining and hopefully starting work at a small job shop in a few weeks with family. I'm not a machinist and I'm not familiar with machining or CNC work, but at the beginning of the video - the red matchstick looking dude that comes down and checks the metal - is that the CNC machine indicating the part? I'm doing as much reading and video-watching as I can to get familiar with this fascinating career.
Damn. That gave me a woody.
the problem with altin is that aluminum is in the coating and that the cutter will load up with material over time. zrn coated is best for aluminum. razorsharpgrindingcom is where i get all my cutters. check out their prices on aluminum cutters.
Now make one out of 304 stainless! ;-)
Hi Charles, thanks for the comment. A high-helix non-coated three flute end mill would be idea for 6061 aluminum like that being machine here, but it's not what was used for this part. Both of the half inch end mills you see in the first two operations are AlTiN coated 4 flutes, one rougher and one finisher. They're more suited for ferrous materials, but with sufficient lubrication and reduced feeds they did well enough!
Impressive - love the probe setting! want one for my TM-1
I've been machining and programming for the last 20 Years another 10 years manual machining. You obviously know what you're Doing
@lavachemist
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good tool path but I think he has suicidal fingers.
Thanks Jon!
damn smooth thread
TM-1P?
That is a Renishaw probe. It is setting the part origin location within the machine. This can be done manually as well!
How about sending me that file, and tool list... lol-Seriously though, great work, well thought out. Haas TM-2P, probing daily
Thats god damn beautiful.
The speed is amazing! Quite the machine you have Jon
@poxenham
8 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you, it's sped up :(
@250ExplorerVideos
8 жыл бұрын
Ahh man, could have let me go and I woulda believed it. Do you run a shop?
Are you still machining?
4 flute AlTin coated carbide. Certainly not idea for aluminum but it did the trick!
Nice job.
It's a half inch chamfer tool, and there is a 1/8" lip between the edge of the grip and the thread boss. Impossible to deburr all the way around the part. Plus, once the part is flipped it's not longer is proper alignment. The machine just knows it's round, it doesn't know exactly how the finger wells of the cap are oriented without building new soft jaws that locate it.
Thank you!
Man that's nice!
can you tell me about the threadmilling tool you are using and who supplies it? Thanks Gerald
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
Can't remember where it came from. It's just a single-point 3/4" thread mill. Should be able to find one from your favourite supplier!
Never blow chips during a tool change, add a M01 after the tools run when your spindle is occupied to clean if you're having trouble with running over chips.
@eaglegage
10 жыл бұрын
No, it's fine to blow chips off during a tool change. I do it every day and no problems.
@G53X0Y0Z0
10 жыл бұрын
It's a bad idea to blow chips around during a tool change, they get between the toolholder and spindle and cause tool runout and possibly spindle and tool holder damage. Aluminum isn't as bad as steel, but still a bad idea. A M01 in the program is one option, or setting 42 can be enabled on Haas machines to automatically halt after every tool change and resume by pressing cycle start.
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
G53X0Y0Z0 Keeping the program time down is probably worth it in most instances for a lot of machinists. But yes, chips in the spindle taper bore are bad. Doesn't mean most guys don't still do it.
@G53X0Y0Z0
10 жыл бұрын
If you are using CAD/CAM software, and I believe you are, then you might be able to customize the post to add a M01 after or right before every tool change. If you can't do that, then it doesn't take long to manually add it to programs. Setting 42 is still a good option if you have it, and is what I use when I want to pause the program after the tool changes. Normally I don't worry about it except for proving out a program. My machines have enough coolant flow and pressure to flush the chips from the parts, and we usually are machining many pieces in each cycle and we let the machine run without close supervision. One strategy is to choose the order of operations to help ensure coolant gets to where you want. On the second operations of your oil filler cap, machining the inner bore first would leave a wider flat to help funnel more coolant volume to the cutter. Also, a nozzle on the coolant line might help increase the velocity and remove more of the chips, but I suspect it was removed because you have an open machine a coolant sprayed all over.
Why was the thread milled from the bottom to the top?
@JonProce
9 жыл бұрын
To maintain a conventional machining direction after going from an outside thread to an inside thread. If it had gone from top to bottom it would have been climb milling.
@therubbersidedown
9 жыл бұрын
Jon Proce You've got that backwards unless your cutter is spinning CCW. Both of the threads you milled you climb cut.
@JonProce
9 жыл бұрын
I meant to say climb milling in my previous post. Climb cut is typical on a ball-screw CNC as the backlash is practically eliminated. "Conventional" milling is typically only used on manual machines.
cool part - you just need a thread relief on the cap so it can bottom out nice and tight!
@Micah_Makes
8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Ydna DuBuc Nope, he needs to put an o-ring gland so that it'll seal up ;)
@ydna
8 жыл бұрын
+mmcma006 that too!
magic
@diedbadly
9 жыл бұрын
*snort snort*
先生你好、你加工刀路很棒,我想问你是用什么软件编程出来那么优秀的作品、 Hello sir, you machining tool path is great, I want to ask you what software programming so excellent works,
Nice work! I noticed some of the video is sped up. Are the machining portions of the video actual speed? What were some of the feeds and rpm rates?
Very nice. Did you anodize the finished item?
Nice work Jon! What kind of end mill are you using milling the first operation. Is it a high helix two or three flute carbide?
When you wish your tm was a vf so you just speed up the video 😂👌
Great work. Have you used any CAM software to program it?
2003 TM1
Beautiful! What coolant do you run? Thanks, Mark
Did you do one run on the threads?
wow this is nice! have you tried making parts trapezoidal threads?
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
Like an ACME thread?
@chesterqw
10 жыл бұрын
yea something like that :)
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
chester chua Wouldn't be any different than any other thread with this machine. No fourth axis so you're restricted to using thread mills, just need to get the right profile!
@chesterqw
10 жыл бұрын
interesting
This is impressive! Do you own this mill personally or do you get the benefit of working at a company which allows you to use it. Lately iv been thinking about investing in one of the HAAS smaller machines! Love the capabilities of these. Now I just need to find a product to make to justify the purchase! Well great video man, keep up the good work and make some more machining videos for us!
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky enough to have a good friend with whom I spend a lot of time who owns the machine. The investment isn't TOO out of this world when you're shopping around for older machines, but they're still quite expensive! Let me know if you find that magic product that pays off the machine. Been searching for that for years ;)
@ChromedOutDubs
10 жыл бұрын
What a lucky guy! Free use of CNC is a dream for me, haha. Looking at the TM series HAAS machines, they really are not too expensive. Especially shopping for a used machine like you said. Do you see much advantage of the TM-1 vs. the TM-1P, looks to be the only difference between the two are the rapids. On a side note, would you be willing to do some prototype services for me? Let me know.
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
ChromedOutDubs An enclosure is the only thing I'd REALLY like to have on the TM1. And yes, couldn't hurt to chat at the least. I'll message you.
@horseshoe_nc
8 жыл бұрын
+ChromedOutDubs Look at a Hurco VM-1 or VM-10, same machine just changed model numbers when they went from 16 to 20 station ATC. The Hurco Control is a breeze to program. The New control OS can do Limited Engagement (High Speed) tool paths with conversational programming. And many older machines can be updated to the latest version. Hurco USA has a KZread channel, you should check it out.
Hi Jon, since Haas TM1 can do 12 inches at Y Axis, does that mean that's the maximum diameter I can mill on a piece is 12"? Or I can do bigger pieces? Thanks
@JonProce
10 жыл бұрын
Maximum diameter would be 12". You could do wider than 12 though. Keep in mind the table only MOVES 12", so the usable work envelope has to account for the width of the tool. That max size you can actually machine may actually be around 10 or 11 at the most.
do u have plans for this????
how much is this vid sped up? nice cap btw.
beautiful work, I would like to know few about, how can I ask with u?
Jon, I want this product in my store, What company makes this?
HSMWorks : )
:)