Sephiroth's control over Cloud is a lot scarier in this game than in OG. Like, we really get to see more examples of Sephiroth using Cloud as a puppet to just break him and try to destroy his friendships.

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

Sounds a lot like narcissistic relationships ngl, where the narcissist will often try to separate their SO from their family and friends

@squirtbrainz1219

4 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely. He learned from his mistakes in the first game of letting Tifa’s hold on Cloud’s psyche in the original

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

@@squirtbrainz1219 yeah, not only does he try to manipulate Cloud against Tifa, but Sephiroth himself eventually goes straight for Tifa in this clip

@EvelynL.1112

4 ай бұрын

​@@holographicwingExactly

@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind

4 ай бұрын

It is huge parts thanks to what I can only call great work with the cutscenes.. it’s like top cinematography sometimes… the music, the choreography.. the camera work.. (lighting could use some work but that might take you out of it being a game). The scene at 1:00 is as grandiose as the Darth Vader Hallway scene.

So, Cloud literally says to Tifa "you must be Jenova's imposter made to trick me into seeing someone i love" this guy... Sephiroth is truly his darkness and Tifa is his light

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Ysabea

4 ай бұрын

Wow that was beautiful I love that

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

I hate that

@mohammadalfattal2902

4 ай бұрын

@@sanzianagoglinache8696 why?

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

He almost kill tifa

I love how Barret slapped him LOL

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Can you balme him

@extraterrific8835

4 ай бұрын

@@sanzianagoglinache8696 I feel like Barret slapped him then got concerned he went too harsh for a minute

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Yeah

@jackepicproyt

4 ай бұрын

*punched*

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

That was funny .

Holy shit he fights like Sephiroth, the way he held that sword was so identical its scary it wouldnt shock me if he pulled an Octoslash out of nowhere. Well Hojo succeeded, his goal was to recreate another Sephiroth and it looks very successful, probably injected him with a large dose of Jenova cells more than he would give to an average soldier.😳

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

The way he dodges the bullets going for his head too🔥 Although why use Octaslash when you have the superior Omnislash.

@oblivionsweeper

4 ай бұрын

@@iam4026 That's also good, I said the Octoslash because Cloud was temporarily controlled by Sephiroth for a moment where anything is possible that superior Omnislash probably won't exist till the last installment of the game

@Laterose15

4 ай бұрын

When he impaled that trooper in midair, it was with his left hand, not his right

@oblivionsweeper

4 ай бұрын

@@Laterose15 Yep ultimate proof Sephiroth was in control, that execution move especially.

@kirara2516

4 ай бұрын

My roommate and I have a theory that Cloud is more than just a Seph clone that Hojo tried to create. Cloud has some of the G project in him too. The experiment done by Hollander from Crisis Core. Angeal could transfer his cells to others and he may have done so to Zack when Zack had to kill him. Which would explain when Zack's hair style changed and looked more like Angeal's style (just with spikes) and then when Zack died, he embraced Cloud, who ended up with some on Zack's blood on him which might have passed on Project G further. So Cloud might be a mix of both projects which is why he could be superior to Sephiroth, and why Jenova tried so hard to block out Zack from his mind until now. It's just a theory and there are holes in it, but it could still be a possibility.

Cloud has his 'I killed them, i killed them all' moment.

@JackSparrow-ct4mh

4 ай бұрын

the women and children too?

@TheGameCube64Guy

4 ай бұрын

@@JackSparrow-ct4mh And he slaughtered them like animals

@bayonetta8418

4 ай бұрын

@@TheGameCube64GuyThen Tifa tells him "To be angry is to be human" 😅

@VexenDmitri

3 ай бұрын

"I do have a scar!" "LIAR! You're with him. You brought him to kill me."

@NeoWolves7

2 ай бұрын

Honestly in the next game, I feel like cloud is gonna pull a sephiroth & murder an entire town of innocents . Then he’s also gonna copy that iconic scene that sephiroth does when he walks through fire 😮

I swear with Clouds DID, Jenova goo, mako poisoning, Trauma from Sephiroth killing all of Niebelheim, Sephiroth trolling the crap outta him and being tricked into helping summon Meteor.... Clouds brain becomes oatmeal soaked in blueberry jam by the middle of the game

@michaelrobosa146

4 ай бұрын

And it will only going to get worse as the story progresses in Part 3

@sanddry738

4 ай бұрын

I hope they go all in on how fucked clouds head is by the time you reach the northern crater. poor guy needs to suffer before he can be a bit happy

@juliogomesdesouza9035

4 ай бұрын

Don't forget aerith dying. Blud been through the wringer thanks to this white haired stud.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Tifa always save him

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but don't forget cloud is not okay at all .

4:57 That scream 😔

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

And this moment . he know he fucked up.🙁

@johnbourassa7056

3 ай бұрын

You Fucked up Moment from FF7 Machineabrided.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

3 ай бұрын

It is true

Cloud's character in Advent Children is beginning to make a whole lot more sense, now. The scope of Sephiroth's influence over him in the ReTrilogy alone would absolutely be enough to drive a kid like him into depression once he was able to fully process it all, never mind Geostigma. He was already introverted and weak willed to begin with, as stated by Nomura, which does well to explain his being an almost perpetual mope throughout the 2000s. His finally waking up to and accepting his true self won't erase the gravity of everything he did while under Sephiroth's control. If anything, it'll make it feel all the worse.

@fissilewhistle

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I get that chronically depressed Cloud isn’t too entertaining to watch, but Cloud is mentally VERY unwell. He has a lot of shit to work through.

@Thecommander248

3 ай бұрын

Well, he's strong willed now. It just takes A LOT to get through Jenova corruption. In fact, Cloud is the only one to ever manage it. Everyone else went crazy, died, or mutated into monsters.

@timonalexandr151

Ай бұрын

Only those who have the strongest of will, personality and character can withstand the SOLDIER procedure (and resist Jenova's will and influence). Zack, Angeal, Genesis have extremely rock solid and grounded personalities (and the ego that comes with it). Even Hojo claimed he couldn't resist Jenovas attempt to currupt his soul. Although Cloud tries to hide it, he is just an introverted, shy and insecure small town boy. Jenova and Sephiroth's will and influence was just too much for him.

I know he's being manipulated here and all but damn, @1:08, the way he dodges those bullets with a simple head tilts is just plain badass

@malika5076

4 күн бұрын

Does anyone know the name of the theme when clouds killing the troops? 😭

3:36 *You Are My Special~* Tifa : what the hell ????

@shiroutheherotraceon3313

4 ай бұрын

I can't escape from Lobotmy Kaisen XD

@Cexxiii

4 ай бұрын

lobotomy kaisen follows us everywhere on any video

@hi_lol.

3 ай бұрын

its impossible to escape lobotomy kaisen

How much does Cloud have to go through, he fails to save tifa from the bridge, he gets rejected from being a SOLDIER, meets his hero only for him to go crazy and destroyed his village along with his mom, failed to save Tifa from danger AGAIN, gets stabbed but still pulls through and defeats Sephiroth, gets put in a sedative tank for 5 years, and on the same day he gets out his best friend literally dies, the trauma is so much he literally thinks everything his best friend did as a SOLDIER was HIM, at this point cloud has been fatally wounded once failed to save someone 3 times, and now Sephiroth has to cuck is relationship with Tifa? Not to mention Aerith DIES. Let my boy win 😭😭😭

@xRenRipper

4 ай бұрын

I never play , what happen to cloud exactly ?

@omlg2021

4 ай бұрын

@@xRenRipper everything i just said

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

Not to mention, how did Sephiroth got so strong to the point he can take on Weapons by himself while Cloud struggles with so much as a Midgar Zolom? I get that Sephiroth’s been Jenova-Mako enhanced since infancy, but Cloud has had the same buffs and yet the differences between them are still night and day

@xRenRipper

4 ай бұрын

@@iam4026 is just plot

@xRenRipper

4 ай бұрын

@@iam4026 in AC , cloud really strong to the point he can solo sephiroth if he doesnt have guilt trip

I think it's clear that Sephiroth is not only torturing Cloud, he is also hurting Tifa as well. Why? She is Cloud's strength, his light , and the love of his life and Sephiroth knows that. So, he is aiming to take her out to further drive Cloud over the edge.

@truefenriz

4 ай бұрын

Based on he attacks Tifa in the Lifestream, Sephiroth seems to recognise that he must take out Tifa if he wants to ensure that he permanently breaks Cloud since Tifa is the only person that can restore the true Cloud.

@crimsoncrusader4829

4 ай бұрын

In the original, Cloud was still okay after Aeris died, but Tifa dying would completely break him.

@phantomslay5612

4 ай бұрын

@@truefenriz But notice how the white whispers protect Tifa as she's going to the surface and then heal her? The white whispers, which are later revealed to be under Aerith's control. Thank you Aerith.

@ibechuu9695

4 ай бұрын

​@@crimsoncrusader4829but that never happens

@yordi3945

4 ай бұрын

@@crimsoncrusader4829he was okay with aerith because he knows aerith’s death was purposeful and knows that aerith reversed cloud’s save and aerith is still with cloud

0:14 Tifa was Ada Wong for a sec

@miavileunevue2463

4 ай бұрын

I like to call that the Catwoman swing but then again Ada Wong is pretty much just Resident Evil's Catwoman so might as well call it the Ada Wong swing.

@mikedancoolguy4574

4 ай бұрын

True

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Tifa is the best

Seeing Cloud becoming Sephiroth is so terrifing. The way he dodged bullets Noctis style and killing that guard was not only scary, but so epic at the same time. I imagine the Smash Bros gang saw this and they be shocked at how much Cloud had suffered by Sephiroth and Jenova's hands.

This game is very Tifa based... And i loved it.

Jesus Christ, keep this man away from any nearby younglings for the love of God.

@sparthyslaysstuff2405

4 ай бұрын

Yo the music even gets close to Vader's theme as he's about to stab that grunt crawling away. 😂

@dreamgamershd345

4 ай бұрын

😂 I didn’t even think of that comparison. Even worse, don’t breed with him either!!!

@anarrivingwingedhussar9692

4 ай бұрын

@@dreamgamershd345 You're gonna have to tell that to Tifa lol

@shiroutheherotraceon3313

4 ай бұрын

Cloud: How can I not be SOLDIER? It's outrageous. It's unfair.

@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376

4 ай бұрын

Kid rebels: Cloud. There’s too many of them. What do we do. Cloud: *draws Buster sword

Yep, Sephiroth is right. Cloud is his puppet. He's been messing with Cloud's mind since Remake, and he will keep on doing that for Part 3. Cloud will have his complete mental breakdown, just like what happened in the og FF7.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@garethmason7920

4 ай бұрын

Just hope Tifa and Cloud still piece his life together though during Mideel in life stream.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Me too

@eigelgregossweisse9563

4 ай бұрын

I'm questioning if he's killed Sephiroth, his willpower should be much stronger now to break the influence, thus what happens in the epilogue. Does no one ever point this out? So many contradictions...

@billybatts8283

4 ай бұрын

This is not Sepiroth, not the real one, it is Jenova. Cloud killed the real Sepiroth when he saved Zack, Tifa and everyone else's life by doing so. This is the manipulation of Jenova...

The way cloud held his sword like sephiroth and the look he had on his face while killing all those people gave me chills when I first saw it. Sephiroths influence here is scary man

Our boy Cloud is losing it 💀

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

You think 😢

@Onewingedwingman

4 ай бұрын

Bro is even delulu at the end of the game brooo pt 3 is gonna hit hard 😭😭😭

@Punisher1251

4 ай бұрын

And Sephiroth made sure of it. Pure evil and manipulator.

@mettatonneoex

4 ай бұрын

How much of it is Jenova?

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

A lot of jenova?

I like how cloud can be taken control of, and tries to kill Tifa.. Then everyone is like "Yeah cloud can you look after Tifa?" As if it wont happen again

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@umhi9778

4 ай бұрын

Also why isn't Tifa (and everyone) not more cautious around him? Like for all they know, any moment he could lose it and try to kill them. Shouldn't they all avoid being alone with him, or at least take his sword away when they're not actively in a fight?

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

That is a good idea.

@carlotta4th

3 ай бұрын

I'm not convinced they saw that he did it. But if they did know then maybe they, like Tifa, know "he" would never have done that and it must have been an episode. I agree that it would have made sense to have Barrett in there at first and he leaves when Tifa nods or something, though.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

3 ай бұрын

Yeah

*Sees blood* me: YES!! FINALLY!!!

3:32 Never realized this, but this is a direct parallel back at the beginning of the game where Tifa got sliced by Sephiroth.

Sephiroth: "Puppet, the time has come. Execute Order 66." Cloud: "Yes my Master." 3:36

that music when viewing the bridge memory and transitioning to the epic battle... holy crap

Mommy? Daddy? Please don't fight!! 😢

This is so messed up man... Tifa doesn't deserve this... Cloud doesn't deserve this. They're all victims of circumstance

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@dikastederook6380

3 ай бұрын

I don't really call being mind and body controlled by a genocidal maniac with godhood delusions circumstances though

@SoraWorkerDrone

3 ай бұрын

Plus Tifa should have understood that Cloud was experimented on by Hojo. That is why he had those never ending breakdowns all thanks to Hojo but she just keeps thinking Cloud is alright but he is not all right.

@dikastederook6380

3 ай бұрын

@@SoraWorkerDrone Tifa doesn't know what exactly happened to Cloud. Yes, SOLDIERs are experimented on but Cloud went much further than this. Tifa doesn't know what happened after Nibelheim (remember that for her, Cloud was never there) and in the same way, she didn't know about how Jenova cells can influence their hosts nor how Sephiroth can use them. Nobobody aside from Sephiroth himself (and Hojo) knew about it for that matter.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

3 ай бұрын

I feel bad for cloud

Does no one try to guess that Cloud has been infused with Jenova cells, that's why he falls under "Sephiroth's" control?

@billybatts8283

4 ай бұрын

It's a jrpg, just run with it lol

@Greentea0083

4 ай бұрын

Right!! But it'd not like anyone is telling him off either, theyre just like, this guys weird. Lets try to keep our distance when he's like that loll!

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think they know the entire process of being a SOLDIER. At the very least, they only know that SOLDIER are bathed in mako, but being injected with Jenova cells is kept secret, with cellular degradation being its only hint. In the OG, Ckoud only reveals this to them at the end of Disc 2, so it’s safe to say no one knows about Jenova’s involvement

@snowykitten6860

4 ай бұрын

I think Barret noticed when cloud tried walking off a bridge lol And my theory is that Tifa knows that cloud is in trouble after her visit to the life stream

@vc180191

4 ай бұрын

Tifa's known Cloud's been having problems since Midgar, she just didn't know how severe it was until Kalm.

That whispers even have white and black two editions 😵

@mori_san8206

4 ай бұрын

the whites are Aerith's but for the blacks I'm a bit confused...Like I know they are Sephiroth's but at the same time I thought that they were the arbitrers of Fate.

@lavishlyvice

4 ай бұрын

​@@mori_san8206 I could be wrong about basically all of this, but: As far as I understand it, the Whispers from Remake are indeed gone for good. The black ones with the purple orbs inside belong to Sephiroth. The game describes the white Whispers as ones that show when someone is trying to "prevent the inevitable", so I'm not entirely sure if they actually belong to Aerith or if they're just a different kind of Whispers that we saw in Remake.

@N120Xeno

2 ай бұрын

@@lavishlyvice Think Cloud says that Sephiroth’s Whispers don’t belong to Fate or the Planet. Given that Fate’s Whispers are the grey ones and Sephiroth’s are the black ones, think it’s safe to assume that the white ones belong to the planet tho that’s only a assumption from Cloud.

27 years ago, Sephiroth's biggest problem was Aerith. She was the only one who could compete with Sephiroth's power. Even now, that fact remains the same. However, Sephiroth is now beginning to see Tifa as a threat to his plans just as much as Aeris. In the past, Tifa was nothing more than a thorn in Sephiroth's eyes. However, since Cloud, who is supposed to be his puppet, is with Tifa, he is the key to getting out of his control and threatening himself, so if Aeris is just interfering, Tifa tries to kill him right now, which shows that Tifa is that important to Cloud.

@andrewramirez3998

4 ай бұрын

This is true

@EvelynL.1112

3 ай бұрын

EXACTLY 💯

the music starts to play in the life stream is amazing.

Awesome scene but man that weapon creature thing scares the shit outta me lol esp when it popped out of the water and just hovered above them like that 😬 looking like that majoras mask water temple boss lol

0:41 *Your Blade yearns to Bathe in the Blood of your Enemies* Sam - MGRR

Dude he even holds the sword like Sepiroth. The bullet dodge...so sick

Sephiroth is just fucking with Cloud at this point. Just toying with him until he breaks, and then no one will be able to stop him from using Meteor.

I wonder if this was the unhinged scene Cody (Cloud's VA) was talking about.

@thecreed1212

4 ай бұрын

Theres one scene thats even worse...

@kirara2516

4 ай бұрын

I don't think so. He didn't sound unhinged here. He's being manipulated, yeah, but there's a moment that's worse. And it just sounds.... so wrong hearing Cloud sound that way. And oddly enough, a phrase Barret used back in the start of remake played in my head. "Stamp scared to bite the hand that fed 'im? Or is he a loyal liddle doggie?"

@Ozzy_08x

3 ай бұрын

@@thecreed1212which is it? If you don’t mind spoiling me?

@febriana7428

3 ай бұрын

I suddenly though of that one scene where Cloud was chasing Aerith for the Black Materia, he sounds unhinged? Or maybe kinda loose there.

@thecreed1212

3 ай бұрын

@@Ozzy_08x the one where he chases aerith a

Cloti angst! CLOTI ANGST!!!

You can't see Tifa's scar in Costa Del Sol, even if you chose the smallest swimsuit for her. Maybe Sephirtoth has a point lol

1:00 as epic as the Darth Vader Hallway scene. Possessed by Sephiroth going dark side fully unlocking his potential.

Sephiroth, you are truly asking to be punished in every single way.....

@bigtatsu

4 ай бұрын

He is a tragic beyond tragic. The one that can't be redeemed is Jenova.

@dikastederook6380

3 ай бұрын

@@bigtatsu His story is tragic but at this point, there's no way he can be redeemed. Half of what he does in that game doesn't have a practical purpose, it's just there to torture Cloud for the sake of it. At this point, Sephiroth is a pure monster and he's aware enough that he knows it and revels in it.

@leon4000

3 ай бұрын

@@dikastederook6380 People are free to feel sorry for Sephiroth, but we can never defend what he's done, especially what he's doing to Cloud. Sephiroth should have been able to know Cloud enough that the young kid wants to ensure that he is not insecure about himself. He writes him off as soon as he himself is lost to the truth of his origins and fell into despair and insanity that he decides to do Jenova's "will" and tries to condemn everyone else to eventual death. Zack Fair was there too, and it wasn't fair to Zack that all of this went on and he was being attacked over something that he just wanted Sephiroth to be straight with him and wanted to have his back, instead it descended to where things gotten. And Cloud is being manipulated because of the same Jenova Cells within the man. Sephiroth made his insecurities even worse, and intentionally is trying to destroy Cloud from the inside, and you want to bet it's because Cloud attacked him and made him lose his guard, something that Sephiroth caused by destroying Cloud and Tifa's homeland unaware of the Terrors that Shinra had caused unknown to the both of them. Sephiroth is on his delusional high horse and is taking it out on Cloud for little reason but to torture him, taking advantage of his psyche the young man barely held together.

@EvelynL.1112

3 ай бұрын

​@@dikastederook6380 I agree. As tragic Sephiroth is, he ended up becoming just as bad as his former oppressors.

Tifa: Look! Cloud: I'm Looking! 😏

@itwarren2012

4 ай бұрын

ITS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME! Not him!

@JustUsCrazyBoyz

4 ай бұрын

@@itwarren2012 Lol!

@umhi9778

4 ай бұрын

🤢

@DARKNESSWOLVES1

3 ай бұрын

@@umhi9778just stop being gay for once

Just noticed the way he walks when Barret tells him to come over and help….

Square: "Let's scare the fuck out of these Tifa simps"

@dustinjowen4427

3 ай бұрын

lmao u made me dropped my tifa cup.

Damn it sephiroth 😤 not tifa too.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Why 😡

I suspect this scene is foreshadowing for Part 3 - instead of falling directly into the Lifestream, Cloud and Tifa will get swallowed by one of these WEAPONs and that's how the memory thing plays out

@danomitedan

4 ай бұрын

According to Bugenhagan they aren’t weapons but we will see

@AdamW-eo2yq

4 ай бұрын

@@danomitedanyeah but Bugenhagen denied weapons even exist And we know they do, heck we fight 4 of the damn things in the original Also, he later then admits at the end that he has been too stuck in his own bubble, refusing to take on anybody else’s ideas or opinions and that he needs to broaden his horizons as well as Nanaki

The dementors are back

the entire gongaga reactor story was amazing

Cloud was always a character full of layers and full of tragedy but man this is soooo much worse than the OG, he really feels like Sephiroth's puppet, like can't my boy be happy for 1 second?

sério… essa parte dele lutar como o sephiroth me arrepiou, foi muito foda!

Sephiroth: Hey, kids, every heard of gaslighting?

it's bad enough cloud is suffering from Mako and all the hell he's going through since the start of the game, but with Sephiroth doing all this just to hurt him is a dick move to a third degree.

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Sephiroth is evil .What did you expect .

0:40 "Cook up, Cloud."

16:25 i didnt notice before he grabs her arm there.nice detail

3:55 CLOUD: TIFAAAAAAAA 🎵YOU ARE MY SPECIAL🎵

Sephiroth: Rip her apart

I liked how Sephiroth tried to kill her. That proves she is very important. The white wisper saved her life because she had to live.

Sephrioth was targeting Tifa too he was trying to killed her while she’s in the huge fish belly….omg…Tifa thank goodness she dodge that long sword 🗡️ inches so close to her chest. I’ve bet all the Clerith fans out there are so excited to see Tifa almost get killed by Sepiroth but got upset when Tifa survived. Clerith fans: yes!…begone so my girl Areith will have Cloud all to herself! Cloti fans: nope it ain’t happened Tifa she’s the protagonist girl she’ll survive no matter what.

@JJOGGOMI_

4 ай бұрын

Are you psycho?

@makoro9161

4 ай бұрын

Well, guess who died in this game lmao 😂

@cherry_0870

4 ай бұрын

@@makoro9161 yep….Poor flower girl has to go….Zack’s been waiting for her…

@federicamacchia1656

4 ай бұрын

XD...if really Sephiroth was targetting Tifa,you REALLY believe that She could escape,with such small possibilities to move inside the ball??Think about It......

@steffanoboin5060

4 ай бұрын

i cant make sense of what is going on in this scene sephiroth manipulates cloud into attacking tifa tifa seems to dodge clouds sword and falls in to the mako then gets eaten by a whale (i dont think there the weapons ) then sephiroth shows up and seems to save her even the whole animation when hes in the water felt off like hes not behaving like a villain cause it felt like he attacked the whale to get it to come up out of the water and release tifa (maybe im over Analyzin it but it almost feels as if theres a second sephiroth ) @@federicamacchia1656

I guess it was the Jenova cells that made sephiroth go insane

Sephiroth: Kill Kill Kill

So, in the Original, Tifa was able to piece Cloud back together. But in here, Cloud is too far gone. Thus, "Your words can't reach him now."

@danomitedan

4 ай бұрын

No Tifa pieces Cloud together when they both fall in later

@vc180191

4 ай бұрын

We haven't reached the point where Tifa helps piece Cloud back together yet in the remake. Rebirth ends after the Forgotten Capital/Aerith's death, Cloud and Tifa falling into the lifestream doesn't occur until a while after that.

@bigtatsu

4 ай бұрын

The other Sephiroth is going to help Cloud become the true hero he is supposed to be in the third game. Zack will be the main character of the third game as well. Cloud is too far gone at this point.

It's so interesting to see. It's clear Sephiroth wants Tifa dead so she can't help cloud recover. The weapon swallowed her so she wouldn't get caught by Sephiroth in the mako.

Who else felt that slap 😂

sephiroth: want tifa to show his boobies? use this trick:

@bartzklauzer7824

4 ай бұрын

LOL

The scenes of young Cloud and Tifa are so cute but so sad. I feel for them :(

Sephrioth: Strike her down my apprentice. Do it

kind of confuse that they did the whole mako memories earlier, then i remember this is not a remake, but a sequel, or a Requel of some sort.

@mori_san8206

4 ай бұрын

I don't think it's the mako memories Tifa and Cloud get in the OG after falling into the lifestream, just another to show Tifa that Cloud was always here for her so that their relationship would grow stronger. It's a sequel to the OG but as if the characters had to restart it all as a parallel world of the OG, and everything changes since Sephiroth and Aerith seem to have knowledge of their OG timeline. With that we see Sephiroth doing things he never did before like retarding Cloud's meeting with Aerith or trying to kill Tifa to break Cloud's mind more to a point of non-return, still I wonder why is he suddently so interested in Cloud and obsessed to have him by his side in his plan rather than killing him since he knows the ending of the OG...Does he know something we don't about Cloud ?

I would've liked them to showcase tifa being very reluctant or hesitant to go near cloud that would have been a realistic reaction.

I was shocked at this. I fee like a weep I just use the buster sword and get the ability off the other weapons.

Dude Cloud is dodging fucking bullets wth

Tifa: okay look!!! Cloud : its huge!!!! Tifa: i know right ? Almost covering my whole body Cloud: I wasn't talking about your scar 😂🤣😭

What song is playing while tifa is looking at memories

my dumbass thought sephiroth was helping cloud here until the tifa part 💀💀

@federicamacchia1656

4 ай бұрын

You're not so fare from the Truth....in this sequence there are TWO Sephiroth...the One Who push Cloud against Tifa,and the other One,the One inside the pool of Mako.This One Is DIFFERENT...he's not trying to kill Tifa(he could do It very easily,if he really wold want,Tifa Is trapped inside the Weapon,cannot defend herself) but,instead,help the weapon to free itself from the black whispers that are attacking,and Pierce the ball to force the weapon to emerge ti release Tifa.The White whispers dont't recognize him as enemy,and don't Attack him.We'll see this Sephiroth in the third part of the game,and we'll know much more about him and his role in the story

@bigtatsu

4 ай бұрын

The other Sephiroth will be our ally in the third game. The true hero Sephiroth.@@federicamacchia1656

2:48 bro turned into anakin

Why the fuck ISN'T Cloud in a Soul Calibur game?

Those we love those we love so tifa definitely are the one he love 😊 but i am so heart pain alittle when he stab tifa even though he is being manipulate by sephiroth 😂oh my ..

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

Love is so strong .😂😂😂😂

If I did that to my wife, she would divorce me.

@tine174

2 ай бұрын

I think the same as you But when I posted this idea to the FF7R community, I was banned. CloTi is now mainstream Telling the truth is the future of domestic violence We are still in the war drum period. When will we be able to speak philosophy in a civilized manner?

@Just_A_Random_Desk

Ай бұрын

@@tine174 you should get a gold medal for those mental gymnastics bro

@tine174

Ай бұрын

@@Just_A_Random_Desk you make me feel so comforted Really, really, really, really thank you Cloud looks so much like Darth Vader from Star Wars. He was a domestic abuser before he completely broke away from Jenova and understood his own darkness. While everyone agrees with the apparent harmony and thinks that Tifa must be with him, in reality they may have chosen the wrong partner to start a new family.

Didn’t this happen in the original ff7 game? (1997) It feels as tho the events of the original ff7 game are leading up to rebirth

Today I saw the ending of this game. It became clear that the woman Sephiroth would be most interested in was Tifa. She is the main factor that makes Cloud strong and independent. In other words, this is a very uncomfortable situation for fans who loved Tifa and people like me who liked seeing the relationship between Cloud and Tifa. If she were the target of that day 27 years ago, Cloud would see despair from which he could never escape, and that would not be a pleasant experience for people like me. I sincerely hope they overcome this crisis.

I wanted to see it too.

You know, for all the folk claiming this game makes them hate Cloud-- it's making me actually like Cloud. I never was a fan of him as a protagonist of the original, and the reason was entirely due to the scene where he gives Sephiroth the Black Materia while Tifa is begging him not to. To me, it came out of left field and felt like "oh sad boy realized his past is a lie so he deliberately gives the antagonist a means to destroy the whole world." And I remember thinking, really? What about Tifa, what about his friends, what about Aerith's memory-- really you're just gonna say fuck all of it and everyone? Even if your memories are all fake, you're just gonna be cool with all of them being killed? With the whole world going down? I couldn't relate to it and it never felt justified even after he pieced his mind back together. But this-- this re-contextualizes all of it in a way that makes that make sense. Cloud's not just a sad boy who is fugueing a lie about his past. He's completely detached from all reality full-stop because of Jenova and has been since the moment he walked into Midgar. He's almost schizophrenic. It's like he's not even sure the world under his feet is not an illusion. He gets tricked into attacking Barret. The same happens with Aerith. Even his own childhood friend whom he's always harbored feelings for-- even she he thinks is an illusion to the point he hurts her and almost kills her. There are all these moments where visions of 'Sephiroth' are fucking with him. He starts saying things that sound overly cold and don't make sense, like a total other person is in control. All of the party give him these meaningful looks constantly where it's clear they think he's losing his mind. And when Aerith dies, he loses it even more to the point he thinks she's alive. It's trippy to see how cooked his brain is right now and with that in mind, it doesn't seem so farfetched anymore why he'd give Sephiroth the black materia. It's not just boo hoo my past is wrong fuck everybody. It's utter and complete madness, the final destination in his progressive retreat into solipsism. In turn, that makes Sephiroth's fall that much more understandable too. He too seemed normal, even likable in the beginning. But that trip to Nibelheim, to where Jenova was, broke him. It wasn't just he learned what he thought the truth of his past was and fell from that. The alien thing is directly influencing him by osmosis, distorting his reality, and despite being the strongest SOLDIER to have ever lived, he fails and becomes her puppet because of it. While the 'puppet' that is Cloud, a failure who never made SOLDIER, will ultimately reclaim his life and sanity. That just makes the central conflict that much better and more poetic in a way the original never really did for me. I might have my criticisms of SE and this whole sequel trilogy, but at least in this aspect, they've managed to do things very well.

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

I noticed how in FF7 there are actually plenty of ironies with both the characters and the story. But one irony in particular is how despite Sephiroth appears to be the one who controls Jenova to carry out his actions in both OG and Remake, it is actually him who is under Jenova’s control, because he himself is also brainwashed to carry out her goal of world domination once he found out his relation to her. Even more ironically, he keeps harassing Cloud because it is he who lives inside of Sephiroth’s head - the one person who defeated him where others like Zack, Angeal, Genesis all couldn’t

@federicamacchia1656

4 ай бұрын

I'm really glad ti find a person so able to really think,reflect and change his iniziale ideas...Indeed,One of the thing that the devs are doing,in this remake,Is showing US what really means to fallo under Total control of Someone or Something whitout any possibility to defend himself...Cloud Is showing US what happened to Sephiroth,what Jenova did to him and how cruel It can be,Because It makes the other see you Just likes a Monster,makes the other hate you,NEVER trust you,Wish Just to kill you,and give the fault fir everything Is happening....This has been the situation for Sephiroth since After the incidente of Nibelheim...

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

I don't hate cloud after this . I hate sephiroth .

@federicamacchia1656

3 ай бұрын

@@sanzianagoglinache8696 probably you'd Better hate Shinra,Hojo and Jenova,since Sephiroth Is in no way differenti from Cloud....Cloud Is a puppet of the being we call Sephiroth,but Sephiroth actually Is Just a Vessel of Jenova's Will,a puppet himself....

@sanzianagoglinache8696

3 ай бұрын

O trust me .I hate hojo .I really do.

In Japanese, Sephiroth says, "Those you fear, those you love." Later, when Cloud repeats those words, he switches them around to "Those you LOVE, those you fear" when looking at Tifa. It's nuances like these that get lost in localisation.

I know this whole scenario was meant to be dramatic and all, but when Barret bitch slaps Cloud in the face, that just breaks immersion for me and I laugh my ass off.

Why do the Whispers disappear once Cloud falls for Sephiroth’s manipulation? Was it supposed to be this way in the OG?

He just sits there

@Rhetzelle

4 ай бұрын

Ikr wtf Cloud?

@jadethedarkprincess8415

4 ай бұрын

ikr .. i was kinda pissed tho seeing him with no effort .. im sorry but he's weak af .. so glad barret hit him hard on the head

@MrInuhanyou123

4 ай бұрын

Mental shut down

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

He knows . He fucked up .

@Onewingedwingman

4 ай бұрын

Bro stopped functioning

Anyone know the song that’s playing at the 1 minute mark???

That Mako pool cant be good for the skin.

@00vondough00

3 ай бұрын

Yep, Cloud ended up as a vegetable for 5+ years in his mako jacuzzi thanks to that bastard Hojo.

Tifa the type of female we all want. Easily forgives Cloud after he nearly lost it all

@sanzianagoglinache8696

4 ай бұрын

That is true 😊

poor tifa couldn't wake up cloud from sephiroth control, she is not her.

@00vondough00

3 ай бұрын

Not yet anyway, she needs help to do that.

@EvelynL.1112

2 ай бұрын

​@@00vondough00 I agree, she is the one who has to accompany Cloud while he puts his own memories back together.

Dont feel sorry for them at all.... they shot zack and biggs 😕

Sephiroth is not a shipper, I see

@anabelgonzalez8984

4 ай бұрын

Haha, I don't know. I saw some flirting between Sephiroth and Tifa in the crisis core. Maybe he's jealous of Cloud? It's a funny take and I know it's not a thing. It's an interesting thought though.

I dunno, but I think if the story in rebirth goes like this, Tifa should have died in the weapon's belly. It's just too impossible for her to be spared. The weapons are real killers,

I really do not like the whisper plot change. But Ultra instinct cloud was cool!!

Dark Cloud is hot, the dark side suits him.

The fact that tifa fucking showed clpud the scad was so funny 😅

0:57-2:00 😶

@malika5076

4 күн бұрын

I need to find the theme omg it’s sooo good. Reminds me of Luke and vaders fight theme

Didn't pay the original. Is this the part where tifa slapped scarlett?

@tylerhansen931

3 ай бұрын

Go play the original and find out

can someone explain to me why he saved tifa? im just curious

@OldManSakaki

4 ай бұрын

Who?

@crissy5019

4 ай бұрын

@@OldManSakaki sephiroth lol

@OldManSakaki

4 ай бұрын

@@crissy5019 he didn't... He tried to kill her twice.. once through Cloud and the second by killing her through suffocating in the lifestream. The Weapon monster and the white whispers were trying to keep her alive.

@The3rownie

4 ай бұрын

That’s how I perceived it too lol that he tried saving her 😂

@iam4026

4 ай бұрын

@@OldManSakaki I think he was going straight for her while in the weapon’s belly, but barely missed her by a few inches. Drowning however, would finish the job since the hole he created would flood the belly with the mako

I think the main reason why Sephiroth kills Aerith at the end instead of Tifa, because Tifa has insanely strong physical strength and quick dexterity. He can't kill her, he's infact not that strong phsycally since he's a "ghost", even when Tifa is weak in Weapon she literally dodged his masamune. If only he tries to stab Tifa as he does to Aerith, she'll no doubt dodge it. Therefore he tried to get rid of her through Cloud, multiple times, failed, once he tried himself, failed, well, "The last light is the hardest to get rid off" - Sephiroth to Cloud in Kingdom Hearts

It’s really interesting how Tifa wasn’t able to get Cloud to regain control and snaps out of puppet mode and he hurt her But when Sephiroth used Aerith he couldn’t hurt her one bit and fought Sephiroth’s contol over him This man is really in love with Aerith ♥️

Ele só queria dar mais uma olhadinha nas tetonas da Tifa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cloud should have finished off Tifa.

@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer

3 ай бұрын

Them's fighting words.

@EvelynL.1112

2 ай бұрын

WHY? WHY DO YOU HATE TIFA SO MUCH?!

@EvelynL.1112

2 ай бұрын

​@@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer Do you hate Tifa? 😡

@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer

2 ай бұрын

@@EvelynL.1112 No.

@EvelynL.1112

2 ай бұрын

@@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer Oh. Sorry, I asked you that.