From past experience machining aluminum in the aircraft industry I know it will change dimension considerably if it gets very cold. So just chill the insert and drop it in and when it comes back up to temperature it will fit perfectly without ever having to press it in.
@shanegarner6031
4 жыл бұрын
Aresol spray can technique works great. Ole school af but seen people do it multiple times
@Lennysuga
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what they do I believe with dry ice or liquid nitrogen .
@pressrolls8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. I would expect even non boosted Subarus could benefit. My Subaru had so many head gasket problems from open deck cylinder movement. No headgasket version ever fixed the problem. We tried them all. I believe that this would solve the problem.
@vl6393 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say I myself have bought parts from these amazing guys, and the customer service is second to none, when I order a part it’s not only packaged that day, but you also get a tracking number that day! I live in Texas and I’ve received my parts in 3 days!! These guys are awesome!
@jorman9156 жыл бұрын
PREACH!!!! That’s what happened to my Altima, the gasket warped because it was a open deck block, I’m so surprised that not that many people connect the dots to the reliability
@GTLTSlost9 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I drive EVO / 4G63 Closed Deck Iron Block Nice Vid & thumbs up
@Luke-tm5oy4 жыл бұрын
Hey I got the same sound system as you ! inexpensive blue tooth with two speakers and brushed metal front not a bad little sound system for the cash.
@trevorwray9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, was very insightful.
@DiegoGomez-mb3bu4 жыл бұрын
V3 or v4 come with fire rings or fire locks???? Also shooting for 850ish whp which block would you recommend??
@JagerRacing
4 жыл бұрын
Diego Gomez that all depends who you are buying them from. Back when this was made they weren’t using fire rings or locks.
@frostback81606 жыл бұрын
Im thinking they are freezing the insert before light pressing it in ?
@kevis6310
4 жыл бұрын
That would might be enough shrinkage to get it to fit. But it would have to be reeeeeeeally cold.
@vwrxlasvegas
4 жыл бұрын
@@kevis6310 that's outfront secret sauce!
@andinamm22467 жыл бұрын
t's your personal favorite engine betwin 2.0 and 2.5 liter (years 2000-2009) thank you so much :0)
@Euphoria00118 жыл бұрын
looking for closed deck services on the ez36d engine.
@2johnz_gte6 жыл бұрын
Do you offer the closed deck service for ej207 blocks??
@JagerRacing
6 жыл бұрын
180StypeX Outfront Motorsports does
@B1GDaddyFatStax8 жыл бұрын
How about the EG33? is this feasible?
@christopheredwards3572 жыл бұрын
What's the maximum boost level you can put through a semi closed block before it cracks?
@JagerRacing
2 жыл бұрын
Well I put over 40 psi and it didn’t, I think some drag guys are in the 50s. The real issue becomes keeping the heads bolted up and the rods oiled.
@christopheredwards357
2 жыл бұрын
@@JagerRacing thanks for your response. Putting 40 psi or 2.7bar of boost pressure through, makes me think its got nothing to do with boost pressure causes the cracking. If it can handle that massive amount. Could it just be detonation and or heat cycles (not warming up properly)? Where the cylinder walls have a shock from cold to hot too fast? My engine builder won't put more than 1.6 bar through a semi closed deck or 400hp (crank). As he believes it's to do with boost pressure. 👍
@jayoheyo97504 жыл бұрын
can this be done with already sleeved block?
@JagerRacing
4 жыл бұрын
joshua gonsalves I have seen it done although not very popular
@terryellis3335 жыл бұрын
What do you think about sleeves vs closed deck conversion? I have an N54
@JagerRacing
5 жыл бұрын
terry ellis I personally haven’t had much luck with sleeves so I prefer the closed deck.
@bobbyjohnnascar6 жыл бұрын
Will this help with head gasket sealing (eliminate subaru head gasket problem) ? THANKS
@JagerRacing
6 жыл бұрын
Bobby John the 1/2 head studs that Outfront has are your best bet in your defense against the blown head gaskets. We have had our best success with them and the JE Pro Seal head Gaskets.
@HoweDoYouDo19994 жыл бұрын
I would be drunk by the time he saids block he saids it a million times don’t drink to that it’s a dangerous challenge 😂
@vwrxlasvegas
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a hater!
@HoweDoYouDo1999
4 жыл бұрын
Vwrx Las vegas huh where was I hating 😆
@vwrxlasvegas
4 жыл бұрын
@@HoweDoYouDo1999 sound like it to me🤣
@HoweDoYouDo1999
4 жыл бұрын
Vwrx Las vegas boiiiiii no hate no stress it was just fun and games man but just don’t drink to the word block 😂
@jdmcommute9 жыл бұрын
Ive got a STI block Ready for sleeves or closed deck conversion. Ive already got a quote for sleeves, but how much total for your closed deck conversion?
@JagerRacing
9 жыл бұрын
Well if you have a good set of case halves then to get them closed decked it is $895
@jdmcommute
9 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. $895 is not bad. Well I definately got a good set of case halves. I just posted a vid of my shortblock on my channel if you want to check it out. I was going to send it off to John at Costa Mesa R&D to get his custom sleeves put in but I might actually go this route. Im planning on running outfront motorsports headstuds anyways. By the way, ive been following your channel and the time attack car. Baddass! I know you probably have it all sorted out already but Im about to do a video series on converting a STI to EPAS and im wondering if you might be interested in converting the time attack car? Good luck this season bud.
@JagerRacing
9 жыл бұрын
Definitely would be worth a look you might get lucky if you mention the video and they might be able to give you a little discount. We are going to have a segment all about headstuds and the experiences that Outfront and Yimisport have had and what they have done to come up with the best solution. I know of others that have merged to other power steering systems and I will say if it is lighter and works to the same degree its always an option.
@jdmcommute
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I will mention your video for sure. Its funny that you brought up the functionality and weight of the EPAS vs the OEM Subaru PS because I actually have it planned to weigh everything as Im converting it and compare the two with cost benefit analysis. Plus I was going to build my own bread board controller box along with a potentiometer for the supply voltage to the EPAS but I found a guy who already makes it and its cheap! So basically I will be able to adjust the amount of "assist" the EPAS gives which is excellent for STi's with wider tires and will allow a fine tuning of steering feedback and control as the track temp heats up and the tires get stickier, which you know puts more demand on the PS. With this adjustable EPAS conversion, its a simple turn of a knob to allow more assist and no more parasitic drag from the PS pump. When I finally get my other whiteline bushings in I will start on the conversion. Im all about having my channel up to help others, so especially if I can help you guys out to put your Subaru in the winners circle Im all in. Thank you Jager Racing and Yimisport for your input.
@myjizzureye
8 жыл бұрын
Alternators don't generate drag?
@milkdrinker78 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do this to a NA EJ25?
@toothpik00
8 жыл бұрын
+TheBlapman I'm sure you could, but there would be little reason to do it unless you were going to turbo that engine. Even still, you would need a lot of boost going in before you'd need to close the deck, and to do THAT you'd need to drop the compression of the EJ25. I have the same engine in my Gen 3 Legacy and I've spent a long time looking into turboing it as well. I think at the end of the day, buying something like an EJ205 and doing a conversion would be cheaper as most Subaru engines will just bolt up to any Subaru engine bay and transmission. Now, closing the deck of an EJ205 would be a viable option if these guys offer it :)
@milkdrinker7
8 жыл бұрын
PIK "a lot of boost" was kindof the plan.
@toothpik00
8 жыл бұрын
+TheBlapman Glad to hear it.
@jrsubiwrx24118 жыл бұрын
can u do this with the FA20DIT?
@JagerRacing
8 жыл бұрын
Yes, Outfront now has a FA series closed deck block!
@jrsubiwrx2411
8 жыл бұрын
I cant find it i been looking on ther page but i only see the EJ
@JagerRacing
8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Garcia it's brand new so it might not be there yet
@jrsubiwrx2411
8 жыл бұрын
+JagerRacing oh ok thank ill keep a look out for it. so that will be for the 2015 wrx FA20DIT right?
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From past experience machining aluminum in the aircraft industry I know it will change dimension considerably if it gets very cold. So just chill the insert and drop it in and when it comes back up to temperature it will fit perfectly without ever having to press it in.
@shanegarner6031
4 жыл бұрын
Aresol spray can technique works great. Ole school af but seen people do it multiple times
@Lennysuga
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what they do I believe with dry ice or liquid nitrogen .
Fantastic job. I would expect even non boosted Subarus could benefit. My Subaru had so many head gasket problems from open deck cylinder movement. No headgasket version ever fixed the problem. We tried them all. I believe that this would solve the problem.
I just wanna say I myself have bought parts from these amazing guys, and the customer service is second to none, when I order a part it’s not only packaged that day, but you also get a tracking number that day! I live in Texas and I’ve received my parts in 3 days!! These guys are awesome!
PREACH!!!! That’s what happened to my Altima, the gasket warped because it was a open deck block, I’m so surprised that not that many people connect the dots to the reliability
One of the reasons I drive EVO / 4G63 Closed Deck Iron Block Nice Vid & thumbs up
Hey I got the same sound system as you ! inexpensive blue tooth with two speakers and brushed metal front not a bad little sound system for the cash.
Thanks for the video, was very insightful.
V3 or v4 come with fire rings or fire locks???? Also shooting for 850ish whp which block would you recommend??
@JagerRacing
4 жыл бұрын
Diego Gomez that all depends who you are buying them from. Back when this was made they weren’t using fire rings or locks.
Im thinking they are freezing the insert before light pressing it in ?
@kevis6310
4 жыл бұрын
That would might be enough shrinkage to get it to fit. But it would have to be reeeeeeeally cold.
@vwrxlasvegas
4 жыл бұрын
@@kevis6310 that's outfront secret sauce!
t's your personal favorite engine betwin 2.0 and 2.5 liter (years 2000-2009) thank you so much :0)
looking for closed deck services on the ez36d engine.
Do you offer the closed deck service for ej207 blocks??
@JagerRacing
6 жыл бұрын
180StypeX Outfront Motorsports does
How about the EG33? is this feasible?
What's the maximum boost level you can put through a semi closed block before it cracks?
@JagerRacing
2 жыл бұрын
Well I put over 40 psi and it didn’t, I think some drag guys are in the 50s. The real issue becomes keeping the heads bolted up and the rods oiled.
@christopheredwards357
2 жыл бұрын
@@JagerRacing thanks for your response. Putting 40 psi or 2.7bar of boost pressure through, makes me think its got nothing to do with boost pressure causes the cracking. If it can handle that massive amount. Could it just be detonation and or heat cycles (not warming up properly)? Where the cylinder walls have a shock from cold to hot too fast? My engine builder won't put more than 1.6 bar through a semi closed deck or 400hp (crank). As he believes it's to do with boost pressure. 👍
can this be done with already sleeved block?
@JagerRacing
4 жыл бұрын
joshua gonsalves I have seen it done although not very popular
What do you think about sleeves vs closed deck conversion? I have an N54
@JagerRacing
5 жыл бұрын
terry ellis I personally haven’t had much luck with sleeves so I prefer the closed deck.
Will this help with head gasket sealing (eliminate subaru head gasket problem) ? THANKS
@JagerRacing
6 жыл бұрын
Bobby John the 1/2 head studs that Outfront has are your best bet in your defense against the blown head gaskets. We have had our best success with them and the JE Pro Seal head Gaskets.
I would be drunk by the time he saids block he saids it a million times don’t drink to that it’s a dangerous challenge 😂
@vwrxlasvegas
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a hater!
@HoweDoYouDo1999
4 жыл бұрын
Vwrx Las vegas huh where was I hating 😆
@vwrxlasvegas
4 жыл бұрын
@@HoweDoYouDo1999 sound like it to me🤣
@HoweDoYouDo1999
4 жыл бұрын
Vwrx Las vegas boiiiiii no hate no stress it was just fun and games man but just don’t drink to the word block 😂
Ive got a STI block Ready for sleeves or closed deck conversion. Ive already got a quote for sleeves, but how much total for your closed deck conversion?
@JagerRacing
9 жыл бұрын
Well if you have a good set of case halves then to get them closed decked it is $895
@jdmcommute
9 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. $895 is not bad. Well I definately got a good set of case halves. I just posted a vid of my shortblock on my channel if you want to check it out. I was going to send it off to John at Costa Mesa R&D to get his custom sleeves put in but I might actually go this route. Im planning on running outfront motorsports headstuds anyways. By the way, ive been following your channel and the time attack car. Baddass! I know you probably have it all sorted out already but Im about to do a video series on converting a STI to EPAS and im wondering if you might be interested in converting the time attack car? Good luck this season bud.
@JagerRacing
9 жыл бұрын
Definitely would be worth a look you might get lucky if you mention the video and they might be able to give you a little discount. We are going to have a segment all about headstuds and the experiences that Outfront and Yimisport have had and what they have done to come up with the best solution. I know of others that have merged to other power steering systems and I will say if it is lighter and works to the same degree its always an option.
@jdmcommute
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I will mention your video for sure. Its funny that you brought up the functionality and weight of the EPAS vs the OEM Subaru PS because I actually have it planned to weigh everything as Im converting it and compare the two with cost benefit analysis. Plus I was going to build my own bread board controller box along with a potentiometer for the supply voltage to the EPAS but I found a guy who already makes it and its cheap! So basically I will be able to adjust the amount of "assist" the EPAS gives which is excellent for STi's with wider tires and will allow a fine tuning of steering feedback and control as the track temp heats up and the tires get stickier, which you know puts more demand on the PS. With this adjustable EPAS conversion, its a simple turn of a knob to allow more assist and no more parasitic drag from the PS pump. When I finally get my other whiteline bushings in I will start on the conversion. Im all about having my channel up to help others, so especially if I can help you guys out to put your Subaru in the winners circle Im all in. Thank you Jager Racing and Yimisport for your input.
@myjizzureye
8 жыл бұрын
Alternators don't generate drag?
Is it possible to do this to a NA EJ25?
@toothpik00
8 жыл бұрын
+TheBlapman I'm sure you could, but there would be little reason to do it unless you were going to turbo that engine. Even still, you would need a lot of boost going in before you'd need to close the deck, and to do THAT you'd need to drop the compression of the EJ25. I have the same engine in my Gen 3 Legacy and I've spent a long time looking into turboing it as well. I think at the end of the day, buying something like an EJ205 and doing a conversion would be cheaper as most Subaru engines will just bolt up to any Subaru engine bay and transmission. Now, closing the deck of an EJ205 would be a viable option if these guys offer it :)
@milkdrinker7
8 жыл бұрын
PIK "a lot of boost" was kindof the plan.
@toothpik00
8 жыл бұрын
+TheBlapman Glad to hear it.
can u do this with the FA20DIT?
@JagerRacing
8 жыл бұрын
Yes, Outfront now has a FA series closed deck block!
@jrsubiwrx2411
8 жыл бұрын
I cant find it i been looking on ther page but i only see the EJ
@JagerRacing
8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Garcia it's brand new so it might not be there yet
@jrsubiwrx2411
8 жыл бұрын
+JagerRacing oh ok thank ill keep a look out for it. so that will be for the 2015 wrx FA20DIT right?
@Kevgodee
8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Garcia forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2779368
It’s meant for exponential boost pressures exactly why it makes the most sense to use it in the highest of horsepower markets 😂😂😂😂
Never liked open deck blocks.
haha evo troll "why i have a 4g63 block".... why you pay $2800 for a new Transfer case instead of motor work
He’s mimicking what Subaru had never done in mass production that’s kinda sad when I think about it but it’s a Subaru what do I expect 😂
@pauloochieng6277
4 жыл бұрын
1996 Subaru Legacy 2.2L turbo factory closed deck
You have some mistakes. Your plate not hard