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@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

ótimo vídeo

@patriotenfield3276

4 ай бұрын

Requesting again for Video on Pinaka MLRS , Tata Kestrel and Other Indian vehicles (plus have send you a word as email on Pinaka MLRS video please check it out )

@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

​@@patriotenfield3276 não conheço esse veículo mais estou curioso para ver um vídeo sobre eles

@patriotenfield3276

4 ай бұрын

​@@Pedro-qc5qdPinaka MLRS . Indian domestic MLR which is both in MK1 122mm and MK2 214mm . The 214 mm has also a version that can be satellite guided just like HIMARS for a precise strike. and Now a 300mm HIMARS style MK3 version . Pinaka is like Indian cousin brother of Brazilian ASTROS .

@patriotenfield3276

4 ай бұрын

@@Pedro-qc5qdPlus mate for reason , I can't post links in KZread comment section. they are literally deleting any comments with links.

Thanks for the video ! My old man served on both carriers flying on HSS, Alouete III and Super Frelon . I've been onboard on both of them during family days and I've seen cat lauches and landing of Crusaders and Etandard IVP when I was a kid . And of course low passes of crusaders breaking the sound barrier at low altitude along the deck . Pretty traumatising for my kid's ears, but a freaking spectacle ! And finally I've seen the hull of the Clemenceau sadly rotting in the port of Brest, waiting for her last sail ...

@BlackHawkBallistic

4 ай бұрын

The F-8 is such a cool jet

The Foch had a cameo in the Hollywood film Crimson Tide.

@brunol-p_g8800

4 ай бұрын

Yes, if I remember correctly you can see it both at the beginning and at the end when the American journalist is doing his live on the situation.

@jpaulc441

4 ай бұрын

Ah that's it. I was trying to remember which film I saw it in. It's quite rare for a Hollywood movie to feature non-US carriers.

Great views of the FN!! Needed to see more closer look of ship's weaps, and this video helps me WHEN I build Both carriers. Although I am going to build Clemenceau as she was in her early career with F-8s & Super Entendards and build out Foch as the Brazilian A/C Sao Paulo with Skyhawks.

The best video for this beautiful aircraft carrier, thanks.

These ships did a good job in the service of France but it was time to replace them as they had become obsolete. They were post WW2 technology and even with the improvements they were no longer 1st tier ships. Thanks for talking about these ships.

@brunol-p_g8800

4 ай бұрын

Just like any ship, ~40 years is the standard operating time.

Nice video.. Please make a video on all types of Aircraft carrier America had till now..

Thank you for the video. 👍

4:30 why is there a bus on that ship?!

@68jwalter

4 ай бұрын

True! Maybe some tourists visiting France 😂

@jkull173

4 ай бұрын

Lmao me trying to convince my boss that my bus was late

@fernandomarques5166

4 ай бұрын

They're probably shipping that bus for military use wherever they'll make their port call. It's not a super uncommon thing, use the aircraft crane to take it aboard, stow it on deck, use the aircraft crane to unload it.

@chloekrueger3003

2 күн бұрын

@@fernandomarques5166 checkout the Charles De Gaulle carrying lot of Cars on the deck, but those cars are the sailors and marines owners to save their money, at least its free transporting.

Just a quick correction about the Brazilian operation of the carrier. We never deployed 10 to 16 AF-1's (A-4KU Skyhawks) aboard the carrier because we never had that many in flyable condition. We were supposed to have about 14 upgraded Skyhawks to eventually deploy aboard, but that never became a reality. We only upgraded about 6 Skyhawks, and lost one in an unfortunate fatal training accident. We have about 4 Skyhawks in operation today. IIRC, the most we put aboard were six Skyhawks at any one time, but the actual number could be 4.

@WeaponDetective

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your correction

@leonardonogueira2647

2 ай бұрын

Você não sabe o que está falando, na época operavam com muito mais que 6 aviões, agora depois que o SP foi aposentado que modernizaram apenas 6(o perdido em acidente foi reposto). Foram comprados 23 e hoje tem 6.

@leandrocosta3709

2 ай бұрын

@@leonardonogueira2647 Duas coisas: 1- Em um lugar onde se está postando em inglês, tenha a cortesia de comentar em inglês, para que os outros participem do debate; 2- Desde quando a MB operou mais do que seis AF-1 ao mesmo tempo à bordo do São Paulo? Me mostra alguma foto ou video com mais do que seis AF-1 no A-12. Não tem. Nunca houveram mais do que isso. Era raro termos tantas aeonaves disponíveis assim porque tivemos problemas com freios e também com a manutenção de motores. Tínhamos células boas o suficiente para voar, mas não os componentes necessários para fazê-las ficar em operação. Nunca tivemos qualquer número expressivo de AF-1's em condições de vôo em um qualquer deteminado momento. O máximo que lembro voando juntos, ou operando juntos, foram seis aeronaves. E sim, o plano original era o de modernizarmos 14 unidades. Modernizamos seis. Perdemos uma tragicamente em um acidente, que foi reposta. Total de sete.

@leonardonogueira2647

2 ай бұрын

@@leandrocosta3709 não é pq tem 6 no convés, tem só 6 no navio podem ter mais no hangar, e claro que dos 23,nem todos voaram, alguns nunca voaram foram deixados para tirar peças, mas no mínimo metade disso estava operacional na época

@leandrocosta3709

2 ай бұрын

@@leonardonogueira2647 Então, se você ler no comentário original, eu realmente comento sobre quantos operamos ao mesmo tempo à bordo do São Paulo. Foram seis. Eu não opero com 'podem ter' mas sim com o que for verificável. Se houveram mais no hangar (fora a célula sem condições de vôo usada para treinamento de posicionamento do convôo que poderia estar à bordo, mas longe de estar operativa), então por favor prove que vou ficar muito agradecido. Se não puder provar, então, vão ser seis mesmo. E sinceramente a MB não passaria a oportunidade de fazer uma FOTEX da vida com o máximo de aeronaves no convôo, até porque no A-12 caberiam todas as 23 aeronaves no convôo numa boa caso todas elas estivessem em condições operativas. Afinal de contas isso foi feito na Tropicalex em que operamos junto com a Armada Argentina e seus Turbo Trackers e Super Étendards. No final das contas se você não tiver como corroborar o seu achismo, eu tenho como comprovar a minha afirmação.

Best one mate.

Esse navio foi conhecido aqui no Brasil como navio da Morte já que cinco marinheiros morreram por mau funcionamento quando ele incendiou uma cabine matou três ocupantes três marinheiros e outro uma explosão que matou dois marinheiros e quando estavam descansando no deck

@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

Até hoje é considerada a pior aquisição da marinha brasileira já que seu antecessor o porta-aviões Minas Gerais durou mais de 40 anos em uso na Marinha do Brasil quanto ele durou 10 anos e só participou de três exercícios militares

@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

hoje nos operamos um porta-helicópteros NAM-ATLÂNTICO que compramos do reino Unido para substituir o São Paulo já que ele não conseguia cumprir seu papel

@WeaponDetective

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your contribution.

@olivierpuyou3621

4 ай бұрын

@@Pedro-qc5qd ¿Fue culpa del barco o de los marineros? Es extraño que en más de 40 años de servicio este tipo de problema nunca haya ocurrido en la marina francesa.

@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

O navio era velho quando a gente comprou ele já fazia mais de 40 anos de uso vocês usaram por 40 anos depois que vocês aposentaram a gente comprou então é culpa sim do navio Rinaldi dos Marinheiros os marinheiros estavam o que os três que morreram estavam descansando na cabine deles e uma válvula explodiu em cima deles e o navio travou-se as portas de matando dois sufocados um morreu da Explosão e o outro sufocado e os outros estavam no topo no deck uma válvula embaixo deles explodiu então sim De forma alguma foi culpa do navio mesmo já que ele já tinha passado por uma atualização antes de chegar Marinha do Brasil ​@@olivierpuyou3621

It was an informative and wonderful introduction video about Celeamnceou aircraft carriers and its sister Fuch of French navy ...video clearly explained all characteristics and upgrades of those two French aircraft carriers ,also video clearly explained political world events influences and militarily French defeats enfluenceses on Celeamnceau and Fuch aircraft carriers. Thank you 🙏( Weapon detective) channel for sharing this remarkable video

@olivierpuyou3621

4 ай бұрын

🤣🤣Clémenceau et Foch. Georges Clémenceau was president of the council during WW1 and nicknamed the Tiger. Ferdinand Foch was supreme commander of all the Allied armies in 1917.

Really intersting ship. When I played Harpoon ages ago, this ship was the choice in this game

Nice video

The clip of the sinking carrier is actually the USS Oriskany, scuttled as an artificial reef in the Gulf of Mexico. It looks very similar but has two catapult shuttle catchers instead of one.

@WeaponDetective

3 ай бұрын

Good eye. We used the footage as symbolic.

We really should not have scrapped these invaluable vessels. Imagine what difference one of these would have made in the Red sea or persian gulf today. We are going to need every hull we can get in the very near future. We cannot be retiring ships like these. Especially without any plan to replace thier capabilites. Capital Ships like this take over a decade to be built and commissioned. These are assets that cannot simply be replaced easily or quickly. We cannot afford to be decomissioning ships at the rate which we are. We are seeing this very clearly with the crisis in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf. The west's navies are dangerously overstratched already and the US cannot simply carry the team all on its own. Even now they are having trouble reliveing their already stretched carrier assets. NATO and the West seriously need to wake up from their post cold war lull and realize their defense cabaility is falling dangerosuly behind the rest of the world and in a world of increasing hostile actors and threats to global stability. If a handful of drones and rockets is able to disrupt the world economy, then there is a serious problem in our capabilites and deterrance policy. It seems to me, what the west has only recently realized in the past year or so from the ukraine and gaza war...is that No. Our enemies are Not deterred. This is plainly obvious and we need to address this or we will continue to see attacks like the houthis and hamas poppoing up in the coming months.

merci !

@KrMorgan12

2 ай бұрын

French people have been guardians of peace and humanity, democracy for 2,000 years.

When the French built aircraft carriers, they built proper ones modelled after American carriers albeit smaller in size. They carry many types of aircraft and can cross deck with American carriers. Royal Navy should have built their carriers like the French did.

@stephenchappell7512

3 ай бұрын

Indeed the larger Verdun could have offered the RN a cheaper alternative to the CVA-01

@livethefuture2492

3 ай бұрын

It is quite embarrassing indeed. The French are the only ones with CATOBAR aircraft carirers that have the capability to operate fixed wing aircraft like the US does. They are the only ones that can aid or relieve the US if they need to. Look at the Red sea today. Imagine if we had one of these vessels still in operation today. CGD is just one vessel, and in navy deployment terms, one is none. We should not have decomissioned these ships at the rate which we are. Especially when we have no plan of replacing them. Capital ships take over a decade to build and commision and we simply cannot afford to loose such vessels. Especially in a world of increasing threats.

@brunol-p_g8800

17 күн бұрын

Yes they are the only ones that have CATOBAR carriers interoperable with the US, but no they don’t build their carriers after US ones.

The asbestos was also deadly for the crew of these carriers when they were active.

@brunol-p_g8800

4 ай бұрын

Just like anything from the 20th century, be it a ship, your house, etc. For example I live in a building from the 60s, if a wall is slightly damaged then I get to breath it. The same goes for houses, your workplace,etc.. But as far as the crews that served in the two carriers they are fine, no sickness or health problem tied to asbestos, and that is because they were well maintained.

@kakwa

4 ай бұрын

If left alone and static, asbestos is not that deadly unless you are really unlucky. But it's an absolutely horrible material when manipulated during mining, processing, manufacturing, construction or dismantlement. One ingestion of a small fiber can potentially be stuck in your lungs for decades and give you cancer. Really nasty stuff. And side note: CVs used to have "Asbestos Men": Fire Fighters wearing an asbestos suit which were on station for all landings. These ones probably died quite young...

i did not get why brasilian mission failed cuz it was old or fleet choosen was wrong to operate on or else?

@brunol-p_g8800

4 ай бұрын

It was mostly due to political mismanagement and under funding preventing the carrier from operating and getting its maintenance which slowly made it so expensive to maintain and repair that they chose to scrap it as it had become cheaper to do it than to repair it. The problem was that the agreement they got with Turkey to scrap it fell appart when environmentalists came into to game protesting both in Turkey and Brazil so to the carrier could no longer be scraped in Turkey, nor could it be docked in Brazil resulting in the ship floating in the high seas off the Brazilian coast for a long time without any maintenance thus in the end Brazil chose to sink it as they couldn’t dock it in Brazil nor Scrap it in Turkey.

That is a cute little carrier.

Good ships, but indeed, the funniest part of their carrier was the end. Clemenceau dismantling in particular was hilariously mishandled: Initially she should have been set to Spain, but was instead ilegaly routed to Turkey, which prompted the French Navy to intercept her near the Italian coast. Then she was sold to an Indian breaker, traveled under tow, through Suez, almost reaching India, but then she was denied access by the the Indian government. So it was back to France, still under tow, but the long way around Africa this time... She was finally properly dismantled in the UK in 2009 at a cost of at least 20M euros for the French tax payer. This story was so much of a joke that some people put her up for sell on Ebay.

@fernandomarques5166

4 ай бұрын

Well it seems like resistance to being scrapped runs in the family then because almost the same thing happened to São Paulo ex-Foch

@jacqueschouette7474

3 ай бұрын

Here's my story about the Clemenceau. In September/October 2003, I was in Catania, Italy. At the time, my ex-wife was taking helicopter lessons and we had gone to her flight school to meet the owner/instructor. When we got there, he asked us if we wanted to go up with him on a helicopter ride. A photographer for Greenpeace? had contracted him to take him up and go find the Clemenceau off the coast of Sicily to document the physical status of the ship. So, we flew out into the Mediterranean and eventually found the Clemenceau being towed to Turkey. We flew around and hovered over the ship for about an hour so the photographer could take all the photos he wanted and then we left. It was interesting to say the least, but I had wished that I had brought my camera.

I remember seeing the aircraft carrier Foch in the port of Toulon in the 1980s, during a tourist trip to the south of France. It was an impressive ship almost as impressive as American aircraft carriers. During the Cold War, France really had a large army. This is no longer the case now. Although they still have excellent weapons engineers, they no longer have an army of the same size.

France only pulled out of nato 's integrated command structure but retained its obligations as a nato treaty member, France continued to train and participate in nato operations. Sarkozy led france back into the integrated command , by then nato had changed its views about the french independent nuclear arsenal.

Why doesn't France consider updating these excellent warships with modern electronics and at least 100 UAVs of various types and capabilities?

@wikirexmax

3 ай бұрын

too small, too old at the time and armed UAV didn't exist. Now they are either scrapped or sunked.

Named pretty close to Clouseau (as in Inspector), no? 🙂

@khaldrago911

4 ай бұрын

Did the white flag of surrender come as standard equipment? 🏳️ 🇫🇷 🏳️

@jmbig

4 ай бұрын

​@@khaldrago911yes... standard equipment directly from the American army... Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan....😂😂😂

@olivierpuyou3621

4 ай бұрын

@@khaldrago911 Ohhh another highly intelligent comment... Or not.🤔

@khaldrago911

4 ай бұрын

Lots of triggered frenchies here.. I must’ve hit too close to home. It ain’t like the word “surrender” don’t come from french. Y’all practically invented the word!

@johnappleby405

4 ай бұрын

Clemenceau was the French PM who led the country through the First World War. Educate yourselves.

This thing was a disaster in the Brazilian Navy, one of the worst purchases made by the armada. A money black hole.

@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

Além de dar prejuízo ela ainda matou marinheiros da nossa Força Armada

@gagounet83

4 ай бұрын

They worked perfectly for forty years in the French navy. An aircraft carrier requires regular maintenance performed by properly trained technicians. It's a real know-how. The Brazilian navy had simply lost it

@Pedro-qc5qd

4 ай бұрын

Sim eu trabalho por 40 anos na sua Marinha quando vê o prato Brasil tem 40 anos de uso já ou seja estava totalmente obsoleto todas as matérias até os parafusos já eram obsoletos e os acidentes ocorreram antes das tentativas de uma das milhares de tentativas de modernizá-las para poder operar junto na Marinha do Brasil mas foi bilhões de jogar no lixo aqui mesmo com as atualizações ele sofresse essas fatalidades ​@@gagounet83

@jeanvaljean9293

3 ай бұрын

Yea yea, sold to brazil for 88 millions … francs that’s not even 15 millions euro….

@desertshadowrevenge357

3 ай бұрын

@@jeanvaljean9293 15 million euros remains a considerable amount wasted that could have been applied in other areas, and it is a misconception if one believes that this was the Brazilian Navy's expense for this vessel. It arrived in Brazil old and rusted with various structural problems. According to a study from the Naval War School (CEMOS_106_MONO_CC_CA_MORAIS RAMOS), the purchase of the São Paulo is described as: 'The deal was made, and the ship was transferred to Brazil for a symbolic price. The ship was used for a short time, and when it started operating at its full capacities, it showed several deficiencies. Since we did not identify the obsolescence of the ship to assess its financial sustainability, the lack of knowledge about the peculiarities of managing the life cycle of the former NAe 'São Paulo' was crucial. This lack of insight during its acquisition regarding the complexity of updating such a sophisticated asset. Ship life cycle management is also crucial in this regard, as this method brings the ability to anticipate the need for modernization and to keep the asset up-to-date regardless of whether it was built in a different era, allowing it to keep pace with developments within its employment cycle.' In 2004, an explosion in a steam pipeline claimed the lives of 4 sailors who are invaluable, and injured 7 others. We had another accident in 2012. In 2014, the navy underwent a modernization costing 1 billion Brazilian reais, equivalent to approximately 166.6 million euros today. They replaced the boilers with diesel engines and updated some systems. Between 2014 and 2015, the ship underwent extensive maintenance. Afterward, in mid-2017, the decision was made to decommission the São Paulo as the country was in crisis, and the ship needed to be literally rebuilt. Finally, the navy spent an additional 37.2 million reais to sink it, despite having received 10 million for it, resulting in a final loss of 27.2 million, approximately 5,118 million euros. In the end São paulo cost to the brazzilian vault almost 200 milion euros.

Les commentaires sont bien entendu à charge contre les francais, coupables comme d’habitude d’avoir causé la mort d’innocents.... Brésil a acheté à très bas prix un vieux batiment ayant fait ses preuves en son temps, au prix d’un patrouilleur. Sur un vieux bateau, comme sur tout vieux materiel, une surveillance et une maintenance competente se doit d’etre en oeuvre et les crédits doivent suivre.

france thinking they could run 5 carriers is crazyy.

@brunol-p_g8800

17 күн бұрын

Well, they could back in the time. They had one of the world’s biggest navy. Now with the end of the Cold War and the budget cuts that followed, as well as the end of the military service, it is no longer a reality. Same thing happens to the UK.

Legend to who?

Overpowered Floating Baguette

The narrator needs to improve his pronnounce.

It was planned a third, larger aircraft carrier, named Verdun. Budgetary issues axed it. Pity.