That belt in 1986 when flair first debuted it was the sweetest shit I had ever seen up to that point

I got one of the first Crumrines they ever made,the leather was much worse then the current crop of belts they're making. this is the crown jewel of any collection. Congrats man!

Classics Shields is expensive but the craftsmanship is amazing

Wow, what a beautiful belt. The detail, craftsmanship; it just screams "World Champion"

@donnylovedbowling

6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@koolaid28

6 жыл бұрын

Grant Latta Just don't forget to go WHOOOOO whenever you wear the belt around your waist or when it's hanging on your shoulder 👍

That's a classic gem my friend, awesome and love it!

Thank you for posting this video, it greatly helped in my decision to place my order a month ago along with a winged eagle belt, thanks again!

@JCTheLawnCareGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Foxhound any updates? Did yours come in yet? Thanks

@foxhound9781

4 жыл бұрын

JC The Lawn Care Guy yes I got it in October and it’s pretty awesome! I recommend it!

Beautiful belt. Great video. Thanks for making it. Fun fact, when the big gold originally debuted it said “RICK FLAIR” on it.

Hey I got mine today also! Just uploaded a review as well but the camera on your phone works better than mine.

I just ordered their newest version yesterday. They now have the low budget version, the fully loaded version, & now a premium version. The difference between the fully loaded version & the premium version is the relief rope boarder is welded around the outside edge of the plates rather than being stacked on top of the front edge of the plates, which is more accurate to the original. I can't wait until I get it.

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

Way ahead of you 😉

Oh....my....goodness....the best wrestling belt EVER created.

Congrats dude.

Beautiful

I wish NWA still used this belt.

Best looking world title of all times. They did a good job whats the price.

@donnylovedbowling

6 жыл бұрын

Go ahead and send them a Facebook message for pricing.

@shortsideenterprises357

6 жыл бұрын

Grant Latta awesome

@MrNWA4Life

5 жыл бұрын

Belt not title

@musama6301

4 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling Facebook and price ???

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

m.facebook.com/classicshields/

When you get a chance look on you tube the 1st time Flair debuts the Big Gold Belt and look closely at his name 😱 it is spelled on the belt as RICK FLAIR not as a lot of people have it spelled as RIC FLAIR .

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, I'm well aware. In fact, when I ordered the belt, I debated on whether to get RICK, I thought it'd be a fun conversation piece. But I decided on the corrected version, it's the name that was on the belt for so many years and would just look odd with the other spelling. I read the "Big Gold" book, and apparently Crumrine kept the misspelled nameplate for years and years, and then when the company was sold, it was melted down for scrap. It was hard to read that, I cringed, haha. What a shame, ya know, that would be such a fun little piece of history. Who knows, I may order a second nameplate one of these days, with the misspelling :)

@operation2ndstorm876

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling hey you just gave me sum knowledge . I didn't know they melted it for scrap . That name plate was apart of wrestling history . 💪😎

@CraigKostelecky

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling I am curious to read the Big Gold book. The little bit I've seen about it has been interesting. I was looking at the history of the nameplates that were this style (before they switched to the boring flat plates in 1992 when they brought back the NWA, later WCW International championship) and the only ones I saw on the belt were RICK FLAIR, RIC FLAIR, and STINGER. They ordered DUSTY RHODES and RONNIE GARVIN plates, but those never were on the title while those two men held the title. In fact the Rhodes's plate was lost and just recently found by Cody in the last few years. Nobody seems to know what happened to the Garvin plate. I also do not know if they ever made a plate for Ricky Steamboat.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

All correct. And no, one was never made for Steamboat that I know of.

Just incredible ❗️ you mind if I ask ball park how much was it to order it?

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Aaron, I'm always hesitant to post prices, because they may have changed. I'd recommend messaging Classic Shields directly on facebook, they'll get you fixed up.

I want an Nwa belt like Dusty Rhodes had

Incredible BELT. Only thing missing is the rope border on the main plate.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@MrNWA4Life

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling Notice the rope border on the side plates? It doesn't have that on the main plate.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

5:15

@MrNWA4Life

3 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling I see it now. Wow.

Hi Grant, is there a way I can reach out to you to directly to ask a few questions regarding the history of this belt? Looking to purchase one myself but still have a lot of research to do!

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Aman, I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have right here, they may benefit others as well, you never know.

From the video I think the right side plate bottom left stone is a little off from the others on the title

@donnylovedbowling

6 жыл бұрын

Oh it definitely is. And it bugs me a little, but not enough to worry about it.

@BenDelaney619

6 жыл бұрын

Oh ok

Is this classic shield big gold belt the actual size of the original I just found out that the fan Duval is a little bit smaller if I’m gonna spend a lot of money for a replica of Ric Flair’s bagel belt I really would like it to be the actual size or a little larger thank you for your video

@donnylovedbowling

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's spot on. I took it to Starrcast and was able to hold it literally right next to the real belt, and it's practically perfect.

How long did it take for your winged eagle to be in your hands from the time you ordered it?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

A year. I think that’s abnormal, though.

is there a video comparing the classic shields vs fandu?

@donnylovedbowling

2 жыл бұрын

No, I sold the Fandu before I got this one, sorry

Hey bud, when shields shipped your title off, did they at least provide tracking info with signature required or did it just arrive? Kinda tired of reaching out asking them questions only to be ignored considering they should be the ones being more forthcoming with information.

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

They did provide tracking, and the shipping itself was always super fast. I don’t think signature was required, but I think i was always here to receive it, so i don’t remember. Their communication does suck, I absolutely agree, but they do come through... eventually.

@kingJshawn

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks man! Watching you vids and your communication brings a sense of peace to this process.

What color leather was the backing on the original authentic Crumrine? Also, were the screws exposed on the original. I’m looking to place an order and wondering if they could accommodate. Thank you

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

The original belt did not have a backing, the screws were exposed. However, the original belt used Chicago style screws, where CS uses nuts and bolts. So it might not work great without a backing

@JCTheLawnCareGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Grant Latta thank you 😃

So this belts main plate is bigger than fandu and virtually equal to the Originals size?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

Yep

Hi. What are the measurements of the belt please? Length of belt and height of the middle? Plus the measurements of the plates?

@donnylovedbowling

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video? 🙃

what do you think of the new fandu luxe that came out recently

@donnylovedbowling

2 жыл бұрын

It’s very impressive! For a person on a budget and doesn’t want to wait, it’s a no-brainer!

@TheHelionOmega

2 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling so it this one you own now really expensive? i heard some go for $3k

I must say, beautiful belt. Top to bottom. I've got some pretty good videos and a great channel myself, check it out if you would like. Again Great video and great belt.

Can you get the belt without ric flair on it? I rather have it blank

@donnylovedbowling

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely.

How do I get my order in bro because I’m having trouble with their website???

@donnylovedbowling

2 жыл бұрын

You can message them on Facebook, or email at classic.pak@gmail.com

Want to sell it?

The original Crumrine didn't have a backing.

@donnylovedbowling

6 жыл бұрын

I know, and I actually requested no backing, but everyone I talked to including Classic Shields themselves said I definitely needed a backing. The original used Chicago-style screws to fasten the plates to the strap. They use nuts and bolts. So without a backing, it would have looked terrible.

great looking belt,however there is one flaw in it,on the crown,there is a diamond shape,on the rear belt,the diamond shape is silver,on all of the belts I have seen,they never get that right,they have it gold instead of silver.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

They actually sent me a relief crown that I was able to add myself: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nmmBy5Z-XavVYrg.html and they make them all with the silver spade now.

@jbelton1989

5 жыл бұрын

So do they send everyone a relief crown? If so that would be awesome

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

Actually I think they make them silver to begin with now, so there’s no need for a relief crown.

Is that on the tv/ring accurate burgundy colored leather belt

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

@Killjoy888

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling thank you for answering my question that burgundy color strap looks hella better than i thought it would lol

What was the turnaround sir?

@donnylovedbowling

3 жыл бұрын

9 months

How can I get a belt like this

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

Message Classic Shields on Facebook

How much for one like this

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

Their pricing could change, I’d recommend messaging them directly on Facebook.

Hi. Do you mind telling about how much it costs please thanks!

@donnylovedbowling

4 жыл бұрын

Their pricing might change, your best bet would be messaging them directly on Facebook.

@knattyman

4 жыл бұрын

flyingrhoads it’s almost $2500

60 inches? The belt Reggie made for Andre had a 60 inch strap. And it was still too small.....

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

I remember them trying to put the title around Andre’s waist during a Piper’s Pit and it STILL didn’t fit, and it was made for a giant!

@MrNWA4Life

3 жыл бұрын

@@dightonazpeitia4350 They tried to put a BELT around Andre's waist. You can't put a "title" around someone's waist.

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrNWA4LifeTechnically the title read champion of the world and it was attached to a belt so they could. And we don’t like that world belt pal. It’s either a title, or a championship.

@MrNWA4Life

3 жыл бұрын

@@dightonazpeitia4350 Who's we? You're parroting Vince McMahon. Stop parroting Vince. It's a fucking BELT.

Could you get your own last name on the name plate?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, you can get whatever you want, as long as it fits.

@foxhound9781

5 жыл бұрын

I got a fandu belt like you did and I want to sell it to upgrade to this, looks like the closest you can get!

So according to the web site, the plates are a zinc alloy. I am guessing you paid around $2k for it. I have asked CS for a quote so I will find out, but just guessing it's around $2k-$3k. Millican uses a sheet of stainless steel. These guys use zinc alloy. The Crumrine was a slab of sterling silver. A slab of solid sterling silver to make just the main plate is apparently $200,000!! That is for a 2mm thick slab 11"x13". Ok so I get why it's not silver. I guess Crumrine being a silversmithing company had loads of silver on hand to make it and probably offered a wholesale cost for silver at the time. This is probably why a 100% accurate Crumrine is impossible unless you are Elon Musk or Bill gates lol. Well once I can drop $2k or more without blinking, well do I buy this, or a screen accurate replica of the Sonic Screwdriver from Doctor Who from the company that makes them for the BBC? :-)

@donnylovedbowling

6 жыл бұрын

The Big Gold book says that Crumrine had to get two pieces of silver and roll them together to make a single piece big enough for the center plate. They estimated the full cost of just the center plate, labor and all, at between $20,000 - $25,000. And that was 32 years ago! So yes, I would imagine that much silver would be insanely expensive, haha. Gotta go with a belt over a sonic screwdriver! :-)

@MrNWA4Life

5 жыл бұрын

Dave does not use stainless steel. His plates are zinc. I know because I have enough of them.

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrNWA4Life Dave’s big gold is a joke compared to CS. The jewel couplings on the main plate look totally off, and the center plate looks smaller, and the detail doesn’t look as well done.

@MrNWA4Life

3 жыл бұрын

@@dightonazpeitia4350 You have to realize that a guy named Teddy went to Crumrine to have a copy made, Dave made a mold of his plates. The pieces that hold the stones aren't right, that's because it's a cast copy. It happens.

Do you mind me asking how much one of these goes for?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

You can message Classic Shields directly on facebook for pricing.

@nonameisthename138

5 жыл бұрын

You gotta pay to play all day....you got 2k to spare!!?

@gregallen1

5 жыл бұрын

Nonameisthename 1 not bad! And yes I do, I’ve got much more than 2k. I don’t live paycheck to paycheck, I have multiple sources of income. Just need to know where to get it.

@nonameisthename138

5 жыл бұрын

@@gregallen1 Wasn't an insult, just stating the facts....you do have to pay to play!! So do I, think I'm going to do the same thing too. So now you know where to get it, and how much it costs..😉

What do these cost?

@jumboincredible

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Yunk It varies on who you talk to

Its boootiful

I want this belt. Details on order and how to purchase please

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

You can message Classic Shields on Facebook or email them at classic.pak@gmail.com. I paid a deposit, it took about 9 months, and when they were done I paid the balance.

@josephlozada3651

5 жыл бұрын

Oh... so u can make payments?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t know about “payments,” you’d have to ask them. But my guess would be yes.

@josephlozada3651

5 жыл бұрын

So it's a 4mm crumm belt? That is what I put in the email?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

“Fully Loaded Ultimate Crumrine”

Is this the ultimate with the premium engraving?

@donnylovedbowling

2 жыл бұрын

Just the Ultimate, as far as I know, but maybe.

@sharpmoneybet

2 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling how long did yours take ? I just ordered one so preparing for the long haul...also does it comes with a curve?

@donnylovedbowling

2 жыл бұрын

This one took 9 months, but I currently have one on order for which I have already been waiting 20 months. They just get more and more popular, take on more and more orders, and therefore it just takes longer and longer.

@sharpmoneybet

2 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling well hopefully you get that one soon! I assume it was probably they got the new warehouse...thanks for the info Grant!

@mohamedalamriii9965

2 жыл бұрын

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Hi again...is it normal that I cant get in contact with classic shields in over a month?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly yes

@nashkevincash

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling sheesh. He told me it'll be ready in MAY. How much more u think I should wait before contacting him again?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

Stay after them, sometimes you have to message them several times before they respond.

@nashkevincash

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling ok

@nashkevincash

4 жыл бұрын

Hi. I got an update on my belt. Classic shields uploaded two videos yesterday of my belt and extra name plate. Can u take a look and tell me what u think?

Wwe womens world tag team championship.

Classic Shields no thank you

Do you mind saying how much you paid for this belt?

@jumboincredible

4 жыл бұрын

Classic shield is notorious for giving different prices but typically it’s anywhere between 1,885 - 1,995

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

It all depends. CS has so many different versions of their belts ranging from SD to the far end being HD and then to the custom etching belt plates with the 24 karat gold. The base price lowest grade belts I think are around $700. The HD custom etched plated belts can easily go for $2000 and up.

@pastordomino

3 жыл бұрын

@@dightonazpeitia4350 Do u know howmuch the low budget cost?

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

@@pastordomino It’s been a while since I checked their prices. Back then, it was around $700.00. That was about a year ago. I don’t know what it is now. But the quality is excellent.

Is the nameplate removable?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

No, but you can probably request that it be.

@jeremyweekes2126

5 жыл бұрын

Grant Latta, thanks mate. If I was to order one, I would hope they can make the nameplate removable because I prefer the plan looking nameplate that is engraved with the wrestlers name they used for the Big gold in the later years of WCW.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

To each his own (: I always thought it looked strange without the equally ornamental nameplate.

@jeremyweekes2126

5 жыл бұрын

Grant Latta, yeah I know where you’re coming from, & I agree in a way. I started watching wrestling around 1997. Wrestling never really got any air time on tv here in Australia back in the day. It wasn’t until the mid 90’s (the beginning on the attitude era) when wrestling gained a lot of popularity that it started being more widely broadcasted here in Australia. By the time I started watching wrestling, the Big Gold was already using the more plan looking nameplate, so it’s just what I grew up seeing, & what I associate with the Big Gold.

@jeremyweekes2126

5 жыл бұрын

Grant Latta, it is a beautiful belt though, mate. I’ve already emailed them for a price. I currently own a Loomis (WWE style) Big Gold, but a Crumrine (WCW style) Big Gold is the one I’ve always wanted, & would love to add it to my growing collection. I currently own a real WWF Smoking Skull belt, a real WWF Big Eagle belt, a real (scratched logo) WWF (oval) Intercontinental belt, the Loomis (WWE style) Big Gold belt, a real WWE Undisputed belt, & a WWE shop replica of the Spinner & Big Logo belts (which are the only 2 replicas in my collection). I’d replace the Loomis (WWE style) Big Gold with this Crumrine (WCW style) Big Gold, & sell the Loomis. Then the only ones I’d still want to add to my collection would be a real WCW United States Championship belt, & a real WWF Winged Eagle belt.

Is the nameplate optional?

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

I guess you could get one without a nameplate, but it wouldn’t look nearly as good.

Don't you think the classic shields Crumrine could be better than the original? I know it's blasphemy to say that about the original Crumrine but your plates are probably thicker and the rope boarder might be more pronounced on your belt than on the original.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

I personally don’t think it’s nicer, but it’s pretty darn close.

I think it's a crock of shit that it takes Dave Mellican seven years to make a belt. There is no way it has to take that long.

@swerboski

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't have a factory in China pumping them out.

@1981CrueHead

3 жыл бұрын

@@swerboski it doesn't take seven years to make a belt. He should have a machine or another way of making the belts.

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

@@swerboski Hand made etching shouldn’t take 7 years even if he doesn’t have a factory in China. Reggie’s wait was approx. 16 weeks. You are telling me Dave is that bad compared to a 90 year old man?

@swerboski

3 жыл бұрын

@@dightonazpeitia4350 it does take 7 years when it's one guy with a backlog of orders. Remember, belts weren't nearly as popular to the wrestling community until they became fashionable. Reggie never had the demand that Dave has now.

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

@@swerboski You take the orders that you accept. He also out-sources his belt work. Such as having other ppl do the leather work, while he does the plates. You do the work for the money that you are given. More than 17 weeks? Fine. But 5 years? Yeah, hire some help bro.

Rope border is too high, also the plates are too thick.

@mistamaog

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's perfect

@RussianNightmare

5 жыл бұрын

@@mistamaog Everyone has an opinion.

@donnylovedbowling

5 жыл бұрын

I dunno about the plates being too think, but the rope border definitely should fit around the plate instead of on top of it. It should also be thicker with less twists. It’s not 100% accurate, but it’s close.

@dightonazpeitia4350

3 жыл бұрын

@@donnylovedbowling It’s more accurate than Dave’s imho