Classic's MASS CARRIER vs Dark! StarCraft 2

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  • @alexr.138
    @alexr.1383 ай бұрын

    You know what Winter? My day did get a little... bit... better. Thank you!

  • @BatkoNashBandera774
    @BatkoNashBandera7743 ай бұрын

    "I scouted you good sir, and I see you are going for the everything bagel build."

  • @Gredddfe
    @Gredddfe3 ай бұрын

    Gold league: Offensive gg, tells their opponent to leave Dark: 17 brood lords

  • @theculturedgentleman3699
    @theculturedgentleman36993 ай бұрын

    I can never get tired of watching Dark and Serral with Winter narration. Its like the secret recipe or something

  • @zaretul98
    @zaretul983 ай бұрын

    Watching those phoenixes battle the ground army was weirdly tense. Holding the levitate ability as long as possible to get damage off while still dodging corrosive biles looked like it took so much focus

  • @michaelhunter4446

    @michaelhunter4446

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes. Phoenixes. Or as I like to call it Phoenai

  • @clanscag
    @clanscag3 ай бұрын

    "The number one ranked player in the world by Dark...it's Dark" LOL makes me laugh every time!🤣

  • @Bluzora.
    @Bluzora.3 ай бұрын

    "The devil is in the details. The details are in the zerglings, and the zerglings are in Classic's base thus the problem." This made me laughed way more than it should've.

  • @Fam0usFarm3r
    @Fam0usFarm3r3 ай бұрын

    As long as vipers are a thing, I am not sure late game toss can really stand up to zerg. It seems like protoss just aren't learning the lesson (or have decided there is nothing better). I can't say how many casts i've seen where the protoss loses not with a bang, but with a whimper, slowly bleeding their (hopefully) powerful and (definitely) expensive units. Viper pulls a carrier, a tempest, an archon, a MOTHERSHIP? Just paid for itself with one ability. MaxPax has done it well, but playing hyper aggressive and fluid, abusing Warpgates and recalls to be everywhere at once. Obviously easier said than done. Despite being known for big, flashy units, Protoss is essentially a cheese race.

  • @contentconsumer3743

    @contentconsumer3743

    3 ай бұрын

    Gouda, or Havarti?

  • @Fam0usFarm3r

    @Fam0usFarm3r

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Nulli_Di I juicy 6 supply and 300 gas. That's like hiding a stack of bills under a pile of diamonds!

  • @TritonTv69420

    @TritonTv69420

    3 ай бұрын

    tell that to 99% of everyone on the ladder. I keep getting rekt by mass carriers. It's getting old. Been like this for like 6 years now

  • @yugonostalgia8961

    @yugonostalgia8961

    3 ай бұрын

    One thing we can all agree on, is that abduct shouldn't work on the Mothership

  • @eotidiss

    @eotidiss

    3 ай бұрын

    Feedback has a range of 10 Abduct has a Range of 9 On paper, you shouldn't be getting abducted at all with perfect play. Obviously, even top players aren't perfect, but Toss can't stand up to Zerg when there's obvious counterplay seems silly.

  • @eotidiss
    @eotidiss3 ай бұрын

    Every game you post could have Dark in it and I would always watch.

  • @corynaquin1527

    @corynaquin1527

    3 ай бұрын

    80% do....

  • @griefgaming2787

    @griefgaming2787

    3 ай бұрын

    DarkCraft 2: Legacy of the Dark

  • @Fred-ju1xs
    @Fred-ju1xs3 ай бұрын

    you know, it just NOW occured to me that the Tempest is modeled after the player's ship in the old atari video game "Tempest"

  • @empese1127
    @empese11273 ай бұрын

    Imagine building a whole armada to have it fall to fungal and parasitic bomb in 5 seconds...Void Rays got so nerfed they can't even be used against mass corruptor.

  • @johnwaddles6718

    @johnwaddles6718

    3 ай бұрын

    Mass corrupter kill all air Then morph them kill all ground win game ez mode

  • @BatkoNashBandera774

    @BatkoNashBandera774

    3 ай бұрын

    this is why you won seven GSL CODE S as zerg, well done!@@johnwaddles6718

  • @Gredddfe

    @Gredddfe

    3 ай бұрын

    You literally just saw a better player having no answer to skytoss rush wtf. Archons and storm are the counter to corrupters. Build too many corrupters and the ground transition wipes Z out. Broods have been so heavily nerfed that morphing them is a huge risk.

  • @empese1127

    @empese1127

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Gredddfe I'm just being sarcastic.

  • @Gredddfe

    @Gredddfe

    3 ай бұрын

    @@empese1127 Ok

  • @faridmk3707
    @faridmk37073 ай бұрын

    Starcraft is the game of the unexpected. Except for when carriers are on the field. Then, you know the protoss will lose.

  • @catbert7
    @catbert73 ай бұрын

    10:15: This attack swung from extremely effective to extremely expensive in the few seconds the Nydus was killed and the Lurkers failed to evac... 12:00: Interceptors have never looked so impotent =0 14:00: The other Queens wanted to be mothers, but Brenda... she was born a hero. 33:05: Incredible battle of positioning! Dark was doing a great job, even doubling back to avoid the flank from the ground army, but fell apart when Mutas got ahead of the shield. 34:20: Daaaaamn, those forcefields! =O Absolutely pivotal. 35:35: Always painful to see someone leave themselves completely defenseless like this. Lost an entire Fing army to a half-dozen Pheonix. Jesus... 45:00: If those Lings had flanked the Stalkers instead of attacking the base, he could have held pretty well. 50:00: Lessons on anti-air still not learned it seems... Oracle was an interesting choice. I like it. 51:32: Awww man, that is just sad =( If not for ignoring anti-air, could have been a more competitive series. Still good though!

  • @Fraggii123
    @Fraggii1233 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your daily content winter !

  • @johnwaddles6718
    @johnwaddles67183 ай бұрын

    I love how the corrupter u mass it kill all the air units of toss have 30 left over corrupters then u move them away cause they “fast a f**k boy” and then if u got the gas u morph them all to broods and then come back and wipe the ground army who just beat ur ground army like The toss can’t max air army again that fast unless they got multiple buildings to build one at a time Ur ground forces Zerg just beat half the toss ground army during fight U morph come right back and finish the other half I find it Hardly fair But I digress it is StarCraft what is fair

  • @jimbalaia
    @jimbalaia3 ай бұрын

    I love the way toss waited zerg get enough units to Deal with carriers

  • @mrdrwdry
    @mrdrwdry3 ай бұрын

    Jimmy! 😂🎉

  • @bigstreetguns6619
    @bigstreetguns66193 ай бұрын

    Highest tier protoss army can't hold a candle to Zerg. Supplies after that fight in G1 were 30 for protoss and 130 for zerg (25 vs 85 army supply). That shows you how crazy underpowered protoss units are.

  • @wuschu5563

    @wuschu5563

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, i'm not saying you are wrong, but to be accurate, 2/3 of that surviving supply were red health corruptors one storm away from death.

  • @user-mv2nn6rw2w

    @user-mv2nn6rw2w

    3 ай бұрын

    Also the main defense against corruptors just jumping onto carriers is archons, which were out of position. Dark won that because classic is on a timer, and has to engage. Otherwise the archons won't be running into and dying to lurkers in the first place. If it's classic with the bank and dark without the eco, you'd be seeing a very different fight, even with the same units.

  • @ninjabreadman22

    @ninjabreadman22

    3 ай бұрын

    I do agree zerg are busted, but Classic played it wrong that first game. He should've finished his upgrades and used a prism to drop zealots for harassment

  • @UrielAngeli147

    @UrielAngeli147

    3 ай бұрын

    Carriers are like Ultralisks... you make them if you like to lose

  • @cavemantero

    @cavemantero

    3 ай бұрын

    I have a great idea...nerf terran

  • @ryanmurphy4870
    @ryanmurphy48703 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video...

  • @lahancodon
    @lahancodon3 ай бұрын

    Burrowed zerglings are truly the embodiment of a pain in the ass

  • @user-tb7ml8kz7h
    @user-tb7ml8kz7h3 ай бұрын

    35:14 - Why no spore forest? Great anti-air, doesn't cost supply, immune to phoenixes...

  • @peterwoitinas7130
    @peterwoitinas71303 ай бұрын

    ❤ very very nice and funny again! Thx so much! And you are not giving away the winner too early anymore! PS I love Sky-Toss! There is only 1 rival for you on earth: Lowko but he's giving away the winner too early) :( !

  • @NHGeneral
    @NHGeneral3 ай бұрын

    lovely to see protoss fight again!

  • @BigLeafyTree
    @BigLeafyTree3 ай бұрын

    Segue sufficiently smooth. Liked.

  • @Marekyong
    @Marekyong3 ай бұрын

    Very entertaining matchup to watch. In ZvP you feel like anyone get snatch the victory and the match is very dynamic. In TvP it feels like the Protoss is constantly pulling the shorter end of the stick and wins only if all the gimmicks stack in Ps favour.

  • @Jeed92
    @Jeed923 ай бұрын

    whenever I see only carrier compositions I wonder if its efficiant at all to put all your eggs in 1 basket, those mixed comps with phoenix and tempest look much scarier and stronger to me. But its so rare to see it. I wonder why because it seems to win more.

  • @Qaos2
    @Qaos23 ай бұрын

    Nothing but love Winter, stay chill

  • @PandaRizzArg
    @PandaRizzArg3 ай бұрын

    Dark in first game was playing with a little brother hitting him a little bit and running away until he got bored and grab classic arm and started the classic "why u hitting yuselve! Stop hitting yourselve" 😂 what a bully

  • @yugonostalgia8961
    @yugonostalgia89613 ай бұрын

    What an incredible game to watch. Gotta say, no other player, including Serral, uses microbial shroud as well as Dark. Hell, most of them don't use it at all!

  • @jonsolo32
    @jonsolo323 ай бұрын

    Another Protoss struggle session. 😂

  • @niklasschroder9564
    @niklasschroder95643 ай бұрын

    i'm 50% here for the great games and casting, 50% for winter voice-ascting queens :3

  • @Globalgenocide
    @Globalgenocide3 ай бұрын

    That first game victory was golden.

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn51393 ай бұрын

    Thank You Om nom nom

  • @GustavBrahe
    @GustavBrahe2 ай бұрын

    A man need a new car every now and then :) thx or wonderful commenting on, that phoenixbattle in game 2 was orgasmic to watch

  • @pnkj2213
    @pnkj22133 ай бұрын

    So a small bug called viper pull entire mothership and battlecruisers but phoenixes with advanced protoss tech cannot lift ultralisks.. hard to see justice for protoss

  • @jsonkody
    @jsonkody3 ай бұрын

    Ok .. another day, another game of the year 🤣🤣

  • @tiaranha
    @tiaranha3 ай бұрын

    "Was that you, Susan?" 😅

  • @amormundi98
    @amormundi983 ай бұрын

    Throwing unchewed gum

  • @louisdrouard9211
    @louisdrouard92113 ай бұрын

    I love watching a 3/3/3/3/3 fully upgraded 7 base zerg do pretty much everything right try to kill a 25 probes 2/2/1/2 protoss on 4 bases for like 30 min

  • @ThomasLuna1989
    @ThomasLuna19893 ай бұрын

    Corruptors are very resistent. Is that fair?

  • @berengerchristy6256
    @berengerchristy62563 ай бұрын

    How many hit points does an interceptor have? Does it have shields and HP? If it returns to the carrier does it get all its hi points back? The world needs to know

  • @shanku13
    @shanku133 ай бұрын

    noice Winter, thx!

  • @user-ni3yt1rw1x
    @user-ni3yt1rw1x3 ай бұрын

    We need a WinterSC and Uthermal collaboration.

  • @saurianwatcher4437
    @saurianwatcher44373 ай бұрын

    49:20 Trogdoracles?

  • @Abduladilosman
    @Abduladilosman3 ай бұрын

    I just want winter make a mistake one and say “ a little bit gooder”😂😂

  • @jayswizzle57
    @jayswizzle573 ай бұрын

    130 likes on this comment and I’ll comment on another video… and I’ll probably do it anyways. JIMMY!

  • @Sogwali

    @Sogwali

    3 ай бұрын

    69 was yesterday

  • @lefthanded0440
    @lefthanded04403 ай бұрын

    Classic played a hell of a game 3 blink and mass oracle to fry those lings. To maximize, I would’ve held off on 8 stalkers and made 8 phoenix and steamrolled dark much quicker if I had the APM of classic

  • @Oban2006
    @Oban20063 ай бұрын

    Those eyes 👀

  • @theJollyPaleGiant
    @theJollyPaleGiant3 ай бұрын

    Game 1 hurt my head.

  • @warlocksnevereverdie
    @warlocksnevereverdie3 ай бұрын

    I really wish they would buff mutas in some fashion. I feel like every game they get played is lost in half a second

  • @HellecticMojo

    @HellecticMojo

    3 ай бұрын

    It's a harassment unit and it's fine enough for it.

  • @polygondwanaland8390
    @polygondwanaland83903 ай бұрын

    I like and sometimes even comment just to mark for myself that I've already watched a Winter video.

  • @nathanielbugay9477
    @nathanielbugay94773 ай бұрын

    😮

  • @dafewger
    @dafewger3 ай бұрын

    How does Dark continuously give us epic matches?

  • @ctrusz995
    @ctrusz9953 ай бұрын

    ❤🤘🏻

  • @MV78675
    @MV786753 ай бұрын

    What is that screaming around 9:00 mate?

  • @MV78675

    @MV78675

    3 ай бұрын

    starting around 8:55

  • @danielbrannon8371
    @danielbrannon83713 ай бұрын

    Ye olde blink all-in😅

  • @Unicron187
    @Unicron1873 ай бұрын

    ranked no. 1 in the world... ... by dark: it's dark!

  • @corynaquin1527
    @corynaquin15273 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy your videos....but like 80% of them have dark in them can you versify a bit i do love me some dark but still variety is cool

  • @suzukaiv5987
    @suzukaiv59873 ай бұрын

    if dark play seriously, he can just abduct and mind control easily

  • @jennifer_dreamzzz
    @jennifer_dreamzzz3 ай бұрын

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster3 ай бұрын

    watching carriers is the road to disappointment 99% of times

  • @madatarchives8725
    @madatarchives87253 ай бұрын

    Classic classic

  • @sawtoothgrind1981
    @sawtoothgrind19813 ай бұрын

    Is it just me or do carriers suck?

  • @AHAPPYBANNANA

    @AHAPPYBANNANA

    3 ай бұрын

    Would have been a world of a difference if he actually got his upgrades.

  • @sawtoothgrind1981

    @sawtoothgrind1981

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AHAPPYBANNANA that makes sense.

  • @barrywhite1770

    @barrywhite1770

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah it was 2/0/1 vs 3/3 wasn’t it?

  • @jeepld

    @jeepld

    3 ай бұрын

    They have been nerfed to death 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @morgenmuffel5747

    @morgenmuffel5747

    3 ай бұрын

    Even with upgrades, they are still over-nerfed. Vipers are too easy a counter

  • @screes620
    @screes6203 ай бұрын

    After watching Reynor play Protoss, watching anyone else play Protoss feels like watching platinum Protoss play.

  • @spokoman23
    @spokoman233 ай бұрын

    10:09 I mean, how stupid is this play? I give it 8/10

  • @joshstolz4653
    @joshstolz46533 ай бұрын

    If I get 271 likes on this comment, I’ll comment again on another series… and it’s statically likely I’ll do it again anyways. I hope seeing this makes your day just a *little.* *bit.* better.

  • @jayswizzle57

    @jayswizzle57

    3 ай бұрын

    At least copy me correctly. If you would have asked Jimmy you would know that the count is at 130.

  • @koolkiller35

    @koolkiller35

    3 ай бұрын

    Made me chuckle. My day just got a little. Bit. Better.

  • @WoWUndad

    @WoWUndad

    3 ай бұрын

    Thumbs down ➰️💺

  • @djkatfishbeats
    @djkatfishbeats3 ай бұрын

    The number of subscribers and likes don't lie 🤥 and they spell disaster for you

  • @joshstolz4653
    @joshstolz46533 ай бұрын

    Second

  • @gewinnste
    @gewinnste3 ай бұрын

    Why always carriers? It's just not a good unit at pro level.

  • @gabrielhenriques6819
    @gabrielhenriques68193 ай бұрын

    PvZ is the best match

  • @ckimsey77
    @ckimsey773 ай бұрын

    Protoss has been nerfed into the ground over time...they're upgrades take longer just cuz, carriers are not effective at all w/o upgrade to fast release interceptors, Ray's need speed upgrade and big air units of all races I feel fungal shouldnt effect them (only bio and small units...I mean whats a fungus gonna do to a large ship stain its paint???), also massive end game things like carrier, battlecruiser, thor, voids, etc...shouldnt b able to b controlled by investors. If so, it should at least take the same amt of supply to control it; carrier w 6 supply should require 3 investors to tenticle it simultaneously to gain control (maybe one slows a bit, 2 blocks it in place and 3 makes it turn on u)...its bs a few cheap units w 8 supply can from a safe distance not only remove 24 supply of 4 carriers from your army, but also add 24 supply to theirs to attack you. Instantly making a 100 supply fight go to 124/76; obvious the victor. How do u mi d control a Capitol ship anyway....its a ship not a person/living thing. Zergs book of spells is fine, but they should b altered. What if storm caused units to be paralyzed to move for its duration how would ppl cry unfair!! OP!! why'd we loose dark arching mind control but zerg got it, wtf removing carrier interceptor fast launch?? This was crucial for late game to make them actually strong somewhat (still weaker than other final air but tradeoff was range advantage and int. swarm distraction). Without this, they're completely useless late game and theres no air power without them. Considering it's also the ONLY unit that costs mins to build its attackers (why dont broods pay for b.lings? Battleships pay to reload etc) time to rebuild fair but this tradeoff of downtime if int get killed for big insta strike dmg is now only onesided since ints exit slowly AND costs so much to replace; u cant negate big losses w/o insta int release so paying mins to build then mins for ints can easily make a carriers cost 600+ minerals each when they're useless. Carrier nerf is my main complaint cuz it was massive, while baty lm ships do more dps, have more hp AND armor, AND a spell for insta 250dmg that cannot b dodged all while able to teleport out b4 dying....but just one thing for carriers is too much?? That seems fair....and I wont even start on making their upgrades take longer or I'll b here all night. No one should loose after clearly winning by destroying their bases and tech, economy gone, most all army dead with FAR superior army and obviously its gg....but 4 casters emerge w mind control, take ur most powerful expensive end game units over and kill u w them...that's stupidity. At the least, make controlling 5he unit take the same supply of Infestors to control it....1 for stalkers, vikings, etc...2 for tanks, colesseues, libs, immortal, 3 for bc's, carriers, tempests, thor's etc. U should have to use the supply ur gaining control of else u control way over 200 and that's bs

  • @Falorik
    @Falorik3 ай бұрын

    Hydralisks need + extra dmg vs Air and Parasitic Bomb needs more dmg vs shields. Zerg has an anti-air problem for sure

  • @ninjabreadman22

    @ninjabreadman22

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @eduardop2111
    @eduardop21113 ай бұрын

    First

  • @00110011001100110100

    @00110011001100110100

    3 ай бұрын

    second

  • @Whattheheck_78
    @Whattheheck_783 ай бұрын

    Protoss no match to Zerg the cap so imbalance to Zerg vs Protoss

  • @Qaos2

    @Qaos2

    3 ай бұрын

    Not building any zealots or stalkers and letting a nydus live in base doesn’t help either!

  • @anibalbarca9549

    @anibalbarca9549

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, poor protoss, they must have at least 1 apm to be functional, its so unfair.

  • @cavemantero

    @cavemantero

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Qaos2 clown...there was no 'game specific' instance that would've made the difference Zerg is OBVIOUSLY more than ever broken and they just buffed them again in the upcoming patch...the Toss player can play a perfect game and will more than likely lose.

  • @matthew4107
    @matthew41073 ай бұрын

    ill like the video if you never say 'segway' again. LTT's channel has scarred me.

  • @Ep0pteia
    @Ep0pteia3 ай бұрын

    What a mess of a series. Dark underestimated Classic, he shouldn't have won this.

  • @justincox8658
    @justincox86583 ай бұрын

    protoss air is trash

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