Would be great to see a start to finish conversion using one of these kits.

@scruffythedog

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@dougowt

2 жыл бұрын

On vintage voltage

@benglasgow

2 жыл бұрын

This also gets my vote. Either straight up conversion or a mini with lots of engine parts missing, prime for an EV conversion.

@matthewmckenzie7687

2 жыл бұрын

see kzread.info/dash/bejne/mH-Lx5OLYcW9f7A.html it's not identical though..

@PhillLongley-PhoenixDronesLtd

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mH-Lx5OLYcW9f7A.html

Creating kits, now you're talking! I watched you guys since the get go. Constantly impressed which Electric Classics. Excellent business ideas backed up by excellent technicians. To quote EEV "winner winner chicken dinner"!

Another great video and I'm really enjoying this series. The perfect level of tech and detail to get a look under the skirts but not enough to make it confusing.

I have built and driven fast Minis for 40 years and and have a massive love of the A-Series and all that goes with it. My family say that I have petrol in my veins - but I must admit, that you have done something quite special here. In terms of performance you have certainly nailed it - and your kits will doubtless help more classic Minis to stay on the road - good for you.

@matthewjenkins1161

9 ай бұрын

Later Minis that are not yet tax exempt perhaps, as they are affected by the growing number of emission zones. But the prospect of rebuilding an A series every other decade sounds far more affordable than replacing batteries, which are used to start with. With the low amount of generally summer miles done by most remaining real Minis, I don't see the use benefit case.

@neilbedford5082

9 ай бұрын

I see your point, but my assumption (perhaps flawed) is that the typical person who builds or commissions an electric Mini (or an electric version of any classic) is a lot less worried about vfm than I would be. I love the A-series and never have much cash, so my choice is sadly an easy one.🙂

Absolutely fantastic! Now when you can ready these kits for home installers, then were talking business. Keep up the good work and Cheers to you.

I love the quality and effort that you put in these kits.

It occurred to me when I was watching your conversion in a day video that you could make drop-in kits for popular conversations, and now you have! Would love to see a video of this being fitted

Very cool, fun to see all elements neatly layed out and explained likewise.

No conversion costs listed anywhere I see. Sure sign of a quality organization. XD

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Apart from the FAQ page on our website, or if you called us to discuss, or if you emailed to ask, or if you DM'd us to ask. 😆😂🤣

Love to see your Defender kit laid out!

Kudos on filling a big gap in the market. Please succeed and bring your artisan work to the masses!

An incredibly packaged conversion.

Love the quality of the videos you have done on these ⚡

@spudproductions7606

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Salman 😊

Glad you’re utilising that gearstick mechanism that the owner of the mini designed and built. What a great piece of design!

Great to see such kits become available. Hopefully won't be too many years before similar kits available for my 2004 audi a4 1.9tdi

Damn, there is no option to like it twice. I've been waiting for this!

looking to create a conversion business after university. will watch more of this! thanks guys!

Really nice video!!! Tks for sharing

Wow how good is this . Well done you for making this BIG BIG step forward .you have seen the future ,hope you sell thousands of this New idea . Hats off to you Sir .I always watch your vids in AWE 👍👍👍👍

The 70’s called and would like their sideburns back

Brilliant with the kits!!

If the cables are pre crimped, not sure why this kit couldn’t be sold to the general public, I know I’d have no trouble installing one. Looks great regardless, I’d love one some day, I’m only 30 mins away too 😄

Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant. I would love to convert my dutch mini to electric on short notice to keep it on the road. Looking forward to more information regarding availability in the eu and eventual pricepoint. Damn, this is thought out well. Driving with the tesla small motor must be fun.

@nirodha7028

Жыл бұрын

Can you inform me a little if you gathered more intel? :-) Dutch fan here as well.

Awesome thanks for the video. Now if you could make something like this for my 710 M Pinzgauer. I would be in heaven. Love your videos, still miss the show on Motortrend. Cheers for across the pond.

@OfficialBobSliwa

2 жыл бұрын

AEMEV did a 71 Pinzgauer. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKuT2rGrj8a1hrw.html

Great concept.

Great video! Thank you!

whooo, with the weight in the trunk 300 hp and fine tuned geometry this should be a beast to drive

This is a good business model.. Make a lot for most popular cars/conversions..

Nice product! Need a kit for my A-class!

A 4x4 dual motor setup for the mini would be great too... 😊 👍

A kit for something like the VW Syncro Camper would be absolutely amazing

Love the company and the whole idea of electric cars, but I have to be honest, I find the lack of candour about prices really irritating. Most people are not expecting them to be cheap, so why not just be up front about the cost? Moggy doesn’t know the cost of his company’s own kit? C’mon!!! Keep the vids coming though and let’s have more 1303 Beetle content. 👍

@NathanLatton

2 жыл бұрын

The cost changes, but the video is there (almost) forever! So would promptly be out of date

@nc3826

2 жыл бұрын

if you have to ask, you can't afford it

@whocares264

2 жыл бұрын

@@nc3826 if you dont have to ask , buy a tesla

@nc3826

2 жыл бұрын

@@whocares264 thx for proof... of what happens... when you stop asking questions, enjoy ;)

@whocares264

2 жыл бұрын

@@nc3826 thanks,i will

I would love a kit like this for a suzuki Samurai (Jimny) in north America. Great piece of engineering!

I’m really wanting to covert my Ford Fiesta ST 3 seeing that Ford isn’t going to be making any I think you guys could actually show them how it’s done ! Nice work love the show

Excellent, thank you.

I hope your electrics are better than all the other British cars I’ve had the pleasure of dealing with ⚡️Seriously though, really cool 😎

This is awesome.

Love this! Would love to go for this type of swap down the road. The under seat battery box is genius. Cutting the boot floor out for a battery box that fits between the subframe could mean you keep boot space

@ElectricClassicCars

2 жыл бұрын

That's correct regards the boot floor but the idea behind this is to not cut anything and simply have a bolt-in kit. 👍

@MiniMattTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars of course 👍

@jamespotter5729

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCarsHi Folks - nice work on the kit. I have a question: How much boot space does the rear pack consume? Is there any usable space left? Can you still slide a spare tire (maybe a compact spare) in on top of the pack? I think if I were to convert my '91 Cooper I would want to flatten out the boot floor by cutting out the basin for the spare tire and welding in a plate, but then put one of those external spare tire hangers under the boot floor in the middle of the subframe, and also convert the battery box so that it has a waterproof hatch on it so that the lithium 12V battery could be stowed away underneath to preserve boot space but still be accessible without having to remove the main pack. Anyway: how much boot space remains with your kit? And have you considered a lower voltage / lower hp motor and shorter "commuter/shopping" range setup that might omit the need for the rear pack altogether?

@jamespotter5729

2 жыл бұрын

I found a photo that Richard emailed and the boot battery box height only gets to about halfway up the taillights, so you could still get a few groceries (or possibly a spate tire) in there while preserving the 4-seater-ness that so many other Mini EV conversions don't. Here's the photo: drive.google.com/file/d/1cnHjW86QQtIuxIaaG6wnj9uxWS74VLEI/view?usp=drivesdk That's really quite good!

@MiniMattTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamespotter5729 oh wow yeah that’s not bad at all

Great idea, can't wait to fit one in my Tesla.

@deanosaur808

Жыл бұрын

Better to put the A-Series engine in the Tesla 😉🤣

I'd love to see a head-to-head performance comparison of this EV mini versus the Project Binky mini.

Love this. Thanks for sharing.

@AshleyLSmith

2 жыл бұрын

What about the vacuum break system? Does it need one? Didn't spot it.

@patrickodonnell9891

2 жыл бұрын

@@AshleyLSmith I junked the booster in my 94 mini, I put in a new dual master, no problem!

Very nice package.

Brilliant, I hope we get to see the Defender kit in a video too!

@ElectricClassicCars

2 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea. We'll do a video on one of them before the next one ships out. 👍

@wizzwas

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars Yesssss

I think you should also do a competency test for individuals who want to install it themselves. I'm not an EV installer but i'd love the kit and i'm more than qualified to install it. I'm in a country that probably wont have many installers. I also wouldn't trust the install of my special vehicle to someone else. A little bit of holistic understanding of the purchaser might lead to more satisfied sales.

@Eric-qm5xw

Жыл бұрын

I’m in the Philippines and would love to convert and old classic…

Hey! Great video, I have been following your channel and company for a while (love it btw), in the future I would like to convert my own Land Rover defender. Would it be possible to show a bit more about landys’ conversions? Thanks, much love from Portugal 🇵🇹

Very nice.

What's the overall change in weight and the change in weight distribution with this kit fitted?

Hi, this looks very well done. You mentioned it's going to the States. Do you have any installers in Canada?

It looks like a really great kit, and only adds 60-70kg to the total weight? Easily overcome from the 100hp vs 60hp from the 1.3 engine. This one you say is to fit Mk2/3, would there be any plan for later MK6/7 conversions? They aren't too far different but different subframes and bigger wider wheels. The difficulty also being in the ECU and Lucas alarm system which i guess would need to be replaced? Also, how does this take account of the ancillaries like wipers, washer, radio etc?

I would love to see one of the kits for the gt turbo starlet or the 4 door starlet .... That would be awesome.... Also the Suzuki samurai and the Geo tracker

I absolutely love this. Question though - what are your subframe limitations, given the differences in mounting points used over the course of the 40 production years, and how does this kit work from a suspension POV given the variances of hydrolastic/dry suspension setups?

@joegodfrey549

2 жыл бұрын

search on KZread for '300bhp tesla mini' and you'll see something that might help you out with your question, additionally the owner of that car is in the thread of comments he might answer

Wow, brilliant, make these for VW mk1 golf fitment and please look into a partner to install your kits in South Africa, please!!!

How much does the weight increase after the conversion, and what's the f/r weight balance?

Some cars like the Honda Jazz had an AWD version available in the home Japanese market. I wonder if it would be possible to make a really small low cost conversion to add about 75hp to the rear wheels that could be switched to either be used regeneratively around town with the engine off but retaining the engine to allow very long distances away from charge points, or as a combined power alternative to the K24 swaps that some people do? EDIT: I guess you would need the engine on at all times to power the standard assisted-steering and assisted-brakes without modification, but if the throttle pedal were adjusted to give inversely proportional amounts of electric regenerative effect for the first 2cm of depression and positive power after 2cm depression, and the petrol engine only gave power after 3cm depression, there would be great saving of stop/start wastage as well as doubling the available power for standing-start acceleration without much wheelspin.

Thanks for sharing!

I take it that the battery boxes do not have heating/cooling. I am a bit vague on battery thermal management but is it not needed with the relatively low power charger?

Mini is fun All that power through the front small wheels wizzzzzz Have you thought RWD one? For me, a mini RWD or AWD pick-up Mini. Original and FUN Mini small box, new Mini is a bloated big thing mini

Those columns under the battery boxes is that for shipping,or is it part on the battery box? Thanks this looks like a awesome kit

Your video is very good and you just have every one on your side in this great idea. Please could you give a cost for VWT5 conversion.

This is a great kit, and probably very sensible only selling to approved installer partners. What I'd like to know is how is the speedometer working on this conversion? I know the motor controller has CanBus, but does the original mechanical one get replaced with an electronic 'retro' look one? Keep up the great work!

@ElectricClassicCars

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda. What we've done is kept the original facia so it looks like an original Mini gauge, but the internals are all 21st century tech talking CAN to the motor controller and BMS. 👍

I'm glad to see this direction for people who want to choose what they drive. How many cars have you put out there? Is the price attractive?

Like nice! What is the cost of the kit? What would be the estimated hours for a shop to install? Be good to know the rough estimates for cost comparison of other options.

I wonder if they adjusted the positions of the battery weight and heights to get the best possible center of gravity, along with as close to a 50/50 weight dist. as possible. I don't know a lot about Mini's so maybe that's not the ideal set up, some cars work a little better, or improve predictability in handling with oddly offset weight.

I appreciate the work that has gone into that kit. I was wondering if a 'fast road' setting might be ideal to add to road and track?

@spudproductions7606

2 жыл бұрын

With 100 hp, the road mode is ‘fast road’ 😊

Does the battery take up all the space in the boot or is there still a normal amount of space to put things? Having a nice lockable space is pretty important some times.

Hi, could this be adapted to fit a fiat seicento? Is there a re-gen braking system available or are we trying to fit a quart into a pint pot?😁😁

I would love a classic car electrified! I've had a Zoe and now run a Kia Soul ev and love it. But a classic with that kit? Wow, yes please, but my time is running out !

That is the craziest "Jack the Ripper" mutton chop beard!! Never seen that one before.

Amazing! Could you please suggest the size of the radiator you're using with your Tesla SDU motor? Appreciate in advance.

Brilliant 👍🏆🇬🇧

Does the conversion use tesla driveshafts or does the installer have to make tesla/mini hybrids? Love watching the conversions you guys do. Keep it up.

@simullane7836

2 жыл бұрын

Hybrids as the mini one will not take 300bhp.

150 mile range? Not bad and I bet it feels like a rocket with all that power. A simple EV without all the useless junk they put in modern cars, the main car brands could learn a lot from you. Also I want one.

@gr8dvd

Жыл бұрын

💯 2003 gas car key-FOB failed, so used physical key to go shopping (+ new key-FOB battery)… only to discover my new 12v battery was defective (0.27v). First thought, new fully electric (locks, no physical key) EV would I need a brick, bust window? 😀🤷🏻😀

@dave4803

Жыл бұрын

@@gr8dvd The same with the handbrake, if you lost power and your accessory battery (12v) wasn't a 100% you would lose that safety net and if it fails when the car is parked you have to remove trim to use the back up release. All electronic toys are just more things to fail and the cheaper they make them the higher the chance they will let you down. End of the day there's nothing wrong with leaving some things machinal. I'll tell you my family has had cars with the electronic handbrake and the things have never worked right meaning the cars have always had to be left in gear to stop them rolling on hills, these were new cars as well.

@gr8dvd

Жыл бұрын

@@dave4803 Handbrake fail, aka EMERGENCY brake… that’s a hazard & under-reported! Kits/custom rebuild looking better & better perhaps one that uses manual shifter (different driving modes), never owned/wanted an automatic.

@dave4803

Жыл бұрын

@@gr8dvd I have an automatic but a classic car. I hate relaying on stuff that has a high chance to fail, machinal will always work even if you lose power.

Which other cars will soon have kits that you planning to do in the next year?

This is awesome. Just saw this and it instantly got my attention. Please explain how the brakes will be handled. Could we still get to use a brake booster/servo with your kit? It would need vacuum for this! Second question is how the infotainment display will be for speed and other values. I badly wants this... 😊 👍

@ElectricClassicCars

2 жыл бұрын

We use an electric vacuum pump and a standard Mini Speedo that has been converted to accept CAN data for speed data. 👍

Does this kit fits or do you have one for a Riley Kestrel thanks

what are your opinions on using hub motors to maximise the amount of space that can be utilised for batteries?

It would be nice to see this homologated for use in France.

Nice bit of kit. Does it require any of the cars existing parts? Could it be fitted to an Automatic?

Eu acho o seu trabalho ótimo parabéns amigo.

Thats the custom resto shop i wanna do. Order in kits for electric conversion bolt-in. I have a p1800 that i wanna do that too and use s2000 rear suspension. The whole chassis is only about 2” off than the s2000.

How do these go with compliance - either in the US, UK or other places like AU - as far as extra weight, suspension / springs, braking capacity, rollover and crash testing... do they require these things to be signed off by an engineer that the conversions are safe and secure to be on public roads?

I’ve long since said there is a huge market for low cost EV conversions in the future. If EVs take off like I think they will there will be plenty of people who may not be able to buy a new one and instead opt for a cheaper retrofit. I know one of the big US manufacturers were looking at selling a Crate EV kit but haven’t heard much about it since.

As the units are all built around subframe based connections to the car body, assuming the "prefferred professional installer" can fit / fabricate relevant motor mounts to chassis (old engine mounts) would that then allow the standard kit to be fitted to nearly any bodywork?

This would be a great way to upgrade the 169 Fiat Panda. That's the second version from 2004 to 2011. Not to forget the Mk2 Punto a little larger but especially cute in the boat tail two door version. Better spec cars have air conditioning which could be electric powered. Swap the fluid flow to use it for heating or cooling.

Have you thought about having a CHAdeMO connector in the second twin tank filler. I think it should fit if the type 2 connector fits. Then you could have slow (50Kw max) rapid charging. Adaptors from CHAdeMO to CCS are quite good and this would give your kit better usability for long trips or those who can't charge at home.

very interested in this for my mk3 escort project.

Do you have a 944 kit and is it available for instal in the us?

Hi Richard, what about the instrument cluster, Speedo, coolant temp, voltage /range? Great show by the way!😁

@ElectricClassicCars

2 жыл бұрын

They look like the original Mini ones, but they show Battery state of charge, motor temp and of course, speed. All talking via CAN to the BMS and Tesla motor controller. 👍

Respect 👍

When my 2014 MINI Coupe R58 JCW conks out I will go this route to keep it going.

I hope to see more and more of these bolt-in EV conversion kits for classic cars of all types from multiple companies around the world.

I was wondering, ever since I watched the Mini conversion on Vintage Voltage, why you couldn’t put a battery box in the centre of the rear subframe? Especially if you deleted the 12v battery box. I know that makes it a little less reversible but it’s easy enough to buy another battery box if you ever did want to reverse the conversion. Also, any plans to make a transfer box/final drive unit suitable for a motor like the NetGain HyPer 9, to fit Minis, 2CVs, Fiat 500s and Beetles? Similar idea to the box you made to fit front motor RWD installs. I know it’s more complicated but the weight, efficiency and space savings would be considerable. Carefully engineered, it may be possible to fit all the cars I listed, front and rear engined, therefore allowing the same main components to be used in numerous conversions? I realise gearing and direction of motor rotation will need to be considered but would love the idea if it’s economically feasible.

@highpath4776

2 жыл бұрын

Do you need a 12v battery system, part of the 12v need was for the heater drive and the spark/coil. A couple of small 6v or motor cycle batteries would do for the lights and radio cassette player ?

@dougowt

2 жыл бұрын

@@highpath4776 I believe they are using a small lithium-ion 12v to run the lights, fire up the contacts for the traction battery etc

Have you guys looked at adding an ultra capacitor set-up to prolong the life of said batteries? Look up Skelton technologies based out of Germany, originally based out of Estonia of all places.

Hey Richard, I was wondering what is running that whole operation. What controls the motor and the battery, is it original tesla hardware?

Great concept. Do you know if your kit will work in a shorty? There doesn't appear to be too much kit intended for the transmission tunnel so perhaps it would work. Would be pretty interested in letting you try as part of a refurbishment commission...

@deanosaur808

Жыл бұрын

What is a shorty?? If you mean a shortened mini, only shorter cables would be needed for the kit to fit.

Which shops carry your kits in USA (specially in Illinois)? Thanks!

Shout out to AG batteries, I had one in a BMW K1300S. :)

Love it! I would like to have one.

It's sad but I'm glad they say right at the beginning they only sell to approved installers. I'm looking for a basic kit I can buy and install myself even if I have to work out many of the problems of installing for my specific vehicle and getting it all to work myself. I can get an old forklift motor or something but I'm sure someone will provide a better solution than that, a kit which includes a modern motor, controllers, charging solutions, either a battery pack or instructions on making one, etc.

What does the range drop to in track mode? Thanks in advance.