Rumour has it Classic FM might buy another CD later this year.

@ftumschk

4 ай бұрын

... and I bet it'll be called "Adagio II"

@nickray4529

4 ай бұрын

😂

@HarryS77

3 ай бұрын

Is Classic FM run by the same guy who does userbenchmark?

@lewisedmundscomposer

3 ай бұрын

☠️☠️☠️☠️ excellent comment

@alexeykkk9557

3 ай бұрын

But that’s not for certain

The fact that none of the Chopin ballades or the Liszt Sonata in b minor is in this list, but a bunch of film score is straight up baffling

@notsorandom889

4 ай бұрын

The term “Classical Music” is quite ambiguous and people might consider those orchestral film music to be in classical style just because it is using an orchestra.

@bobmeyers186

3 ай бұрын

Funny you mention. I just learned the Scherzo 1 and part of the liszt sonata lol

@tt-ew7rx

3 ай бұрын

"Liszt is trash" - Dave Hurwitz.

@deividfost

3 ай бұрын

@@tt-ew7rx It seems like context is meaningless this day and age, sadly

@tt-ew7rx

3 ай бұрын

@@deividfost That seemed to be a non-context remark meant as a global view by the speaker of that sentence - my understanding. I watched the whole video where that remark was made and there were no ifs or buts.

I do insist on a part 2! Also, I agree with your hot takes: Rach 2 is absolutely genius (especially the counterpoint in that 3rd movement), and The Phantom Menace is epic and unfairly gets a lot of hate.

I believe the Shostakovich Jazz Suites were called that because they were written for a jazz orchestra (in the soviet sense). I’ve seen them billed as “Variety Suites for Jazz Orchestra” before and I think it’s a much better term! Unfortunately, Shostakovich wasn’t terribly jazzy. His writing for piano (for example the cadenza of his 1st piano concerto) seems to show the influence of ragtime & stride, but I’m not terribly sure, I’ll be honest.

@jacobbass6437

3 ай бұрын

It’s actually just a complete mistitle all together. A publisher incorrectly titled the work “Suite for jazz orchestra no. 2” when the actual name is “suite for variety orchestra no. 1”.

@thomasramsay8212

3 ай бұрын

@@jacobbass6437 Ah, got it. Thank you for clarifying!

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out. Apparently its correct title is 'Suite no. 1 for Variety Orchestra'. There was an editorial error in the tenth volume of the Shostakovich collected works edition published in 1984 which resulted in the Suite for Variety Orchestra No. 1 being misidentified as the "Suite for Jazz Orchestra No. 2" or "Jazz Suite No. 2". The score was first published with the correct name in 2001.

@frankwales

Ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor It's mildly irksome to me that Classic FM persist in using the wrong title for this, given how long the correct one has been known.

@jamesoliver6625

24 күн бұрын

With DS, the first criterion for evaluation is what was the personal psychological political climate under which the piece was written and has his penchant for sarcasm manifest.

I'm loving the thoughtful but endlessly polite critique of this list, and want more!

Ashokan Farewell is a fiddle tune written for a documentary. Not classical music. It’s very popular for fiddle players.

@gingercat6128

3 ай бұрын

The version Classic FM plays is too sanitised, too "tamed". Listen to the original played by Jay Ungar to hear what it should sound like.

@carbonmonoxide5052

3 ай бұрын

@@gingercat6128 it’s in the folk tradition now, everyone (myself included) plays it a little differently.

@robinhillyard6187

18 күн бұрын

Yes, it was featured in Ken Burns’ first big hit, the (American) Civil War.

imagine if the voters of this list were given the opportunity to engage with 'classical music' on a level beyond the most superficial possible?

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

What does exactly demonstrate that the voters were superficial? Actually, it looks like a quite good list to my eyes.

"I love democracy" - Palpatine

@ashleythorpe7933

3 ай бұрын

I love the Republic

Ashokan Farewell according to Wikipedia “The piece is a waltz in D major, composed in the style of a Scottish lament (e.g., Niel Gow's "Lament for His Second Wife").[3] Jay Ungar describes the song as coming out of "a sense of loss and longing" after the annual Ashokan Music & Dance Camps ended.[3] The most famous arrangement of the piece begins with a solo violin, later accompanied by guitar and upright bass. Another arrangement, featuring Ungar, Mason, and their family band, is performed with two violins, an acoustic guitar, and a banjo, with the piece beginning with a solo violin.” It was used in the Ken Burns Civil War Documentary.

@isaacbeen2087

3 ай бұрын

his recordings with his wife are wonderful…fab fiddler

Einaudi is 'Classical' music for people who don't like Classical music.

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I think that's probably a fair assessment (with all due respect to Einaudi lovers!)

@toruscore

19 күн бұрын

Einaudi has the slight disadvantage over watching paint dry that I can do the latter in silence

yes please release the 2nd half. I really enjoyed this reaction.

So nice to hear you pronounce "Dives and Lazarus" correctly, something you will never hear on Classic FM, even though listeners such as myself have pointed it out to them. I was a talk given by the Vaughan Williams Society a few years ago when this point was mentioned!

Looking forward to part 2!

I stopped caring when I realised the Bach Brandenburg concertos is one entry, Beethoven's nine symphonies get nine entries and that stupid Karl Jenkins crap thing got too high.

looking forward to part 2 of your responses to this list

Please I beg of you good sir, I do insist that you release the second part immediately! Having been shocked myself I am dying to see your reaction.

@themusicprofessor

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your encouragement. We are planning on releasing it after all of the insistent comments though it will have to be edited first so cannot be released immediately!

Beethoven's 'Moonlight' sonata only voted in because every ClassicFM listener knows the 1st movement, a few know the last movement and hardly any of them know the 2nd movement.

@karenbryan132

3 ай бұрын

Except those of us who have played it. Yes, you are right!

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

Can you demonstrate that they don't know the entire sonata?

@chrisperyagh

3 ай бұрын

@@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Chances are they don't know what sonata form is. I bet you a fiver if you play the 2nd movement to them in isolation and ask them what piece (or 'song' as they probably call it) is, they won't have a clue.

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisperyagh I don't see why shouldn't they know the sonata form, considering that they are fans of classical music. You treat them as if they were idiots... and why? Perhaps only because they create lists that you don't like. For me, the list I see in this video is good, and I ensure you that I'm perfectly aware of the structure of classical music.

@chrisperyagh

3 ай бұрын

@@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks You really are taking this far too seriously for your own good. You do realise Classic FM is a commercial radio station and rarely ever plays entire works in full, unless they're really short like the Baroque era symphonies by Boyce which are shorter than a Romantic era scherzo movement. Have you even heard of Classic FM?

Who on earth could dislike Rachmaninoff? I completely agree with you about the beauty of his melodies wrapped in incredible harmonic complexity, and feel that the merit of this would be immediately obvious to anyone who listens to him for more than two minutes.

I TOTALLY AGREE!! Bach should’ve been in top 3

Go for it. I'm Radio 3 more then Classic FM, but more than both my own ability to explore via KZread. No - I won't pay for a subscription service, and have collected CDs, and will continue to do so, since these days, in charity shops you can get them for 50 pence, and even complete opera sets for 2£. Classic FM are on to something though. Just one observation from me: Saint Saens Organ Symphony 1980s - RFH - tremendous. One of those pieces you have to be there for. All music is like that, but I wonder how many of the voting audience of Classic FM had actually heard it, in its concert -hall - encompassing reality. I think Radio 3 still points the listener to performances. Classic FM commodifies the marketable, the already recorded.

The prelude from Suite Bergamasque is excellent. Love it from the first bar, the grand opening Gm/F disolving into a delecate run of semiquavers. Lovely harmony. Easy enough to play the opening, though my rendition falls into shreads when you have the demi-semiquavers and the fast hand postion change - I failed my Grade 5 piano, and I have a feeling this is harder than grade 5.

Part 2 please - and with the same humour (see last sentence)!😀 I generally find these lists interesting but fundamentally depressing as they don't push the boundaries but tend to exist in their own cocoons - being harsh, the music largely described in Part 1 could be seen as 'easy listening' or 'muzak' (... or 'furniture music'??!!) That said, a genuine 'hats off' to your instantaneous improvisation ... I loved the Eric Carmen impression on the second Rach 2 ... and did you really mean to say 'Onegin' for 'Onedin' at ~2:33-2:37?! (or that's what it sounded like on this computer!) 😉 Cheers - thanks as ever!

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

Which pieces are muzak?

@myouatt5987

3 ай бұрын

@@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Thanks - any of the pieces which could be played in the background whilst you're going round a store or supermarket or lift or while hanging on the end of a phone - they may be (very) pleasant but not challenging - as I said, they don't push the boundaries, they exist ... the 'furniture music' is a reference to a previous video (see Erik Satie on this channel). Hope this helps. 😀

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

@@myouatt5987 I know what is muzak. I was asking which are the pieces of the list that you see as muzak.

Please release the next lot. I listened to the top 50...spent a good while in despair...

thanks for this, sir! more!!

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Your wish is granted

Thamks for this list! I just watched Gladiator a couple of days ago. Zimmer echos a bit of Don Giovani in it, which works realy well with the revenge themes

keep it up!

Didn't notice the Schopenhauer on the piano

Does anyone else hear "Stormy Weather" every time they play that Khachaturian "Spartacus" bit? (It was used to fine effect in a Coen Brothers movie I liked though nobody else did: "The Hudsucker Proxy"). And that Pachelbel Canon got popular when a fellow named Remo Giazzoto did his version back in the '60s. Nobody would have picked up on it otherwise. (I'm old--that's why I remember this.)

Their list only says what is most popular not necessarily what is best. It happens every year in the run up to Easter, and listeners are invited to submit their 3 favourite pieces of classical music, and they include film scores. I cannot narrow done a selection of only for my choices, so never take part.

I insist vehemently for a part 2!

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps a part 2 is very much in the works...

Part 2 please!

Pachelbel Canon is probably in the list as it is often played at weddings. Over the last two years, I have heard it played on the organ, played by a small quartet and even streamed from the internet and played using the church sound system.

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

Or maybe because it's a beautiful piece, and I'm speaking about the modern version released in the 20th century (the original version is not so great).

Ashoken Farewell is a wonderful Americana piece played in the series The Civil War. They read the death letter of Sullivan Ballou through it and it is touching, ethereal. Guitar, violin, bass. It's good to see a traditional American folk piece of beauty represent here.

Part 2! Part 2! Part 2! 🙏🙏🙏

Do come back to Ashakan's Farewell in part 2. I would love to hear your opinion of it. I encountered it from Burn's American Civil War Epic, as has already been pointed out here. I thought it was a traditional melody until I read up on it.

Greetings. I have been watching your videos for a while now. I have learned quite a lot from you now. I have learned quite a lot from this stupid list video. Am I a stupid watcher ?

@themusicprofessor

4 ай бұрын

No. You are an intelligent watcher!

The way I became aquainted with the Adagio from Spartacus was from the movie Caligula… I was in high school and watched it for a theater project (had to do fake movie reviews and perform them like a radio show). Let’s just say my teacher did not do a Google search on that movie before or after I presented on it because I saw things that were probably not advisable for a 16 year old, but hey, exposed me to an amazing piece by Khachaturian. Also, I agree about Handel’s works. Solomon is my favorite.

it was refreshing to hear a musical academic not just, as you put it, denegrate rachmaninoff. its only now that those in academia are starting to appreciate rachmaninoff’s genius. his harmony is a personal influence on my own compositions.

Shostakovich's jazz suite no 2 was actually originally titled Suite for Variety Orchestra! I don't know who gives it 'jazz suite' as the title, but that explains why it doesn't sound jazz at all

Please continue.

It seems that there are only two types of classical music listeners left. The ones that listen to this station and think movie scores are classical music and the ones that only listen to stuff that is at least as weird as Stravinsky. If it doesn't make your ears bleed, they don't like it. I wouldn't listen to Classic FM anyway. Radio Swiss Classic is my online radio station of choice, when it comes to classical music.

@Ploist

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t take this list to generalize all classical listeners. Boulez and penderecki pieces have 100,000+ views here on KZread.

@isaacbeen2087

3 ай бұрын

@@Ploist lol I think ur proving his point

@ajames283

3 ай бұрын

Seems like most "Classical" music listeners Only likes film scores, new age, and "Classical crossover" Only likes Romantic era, and maybe also Bach or Mozart.

@amarug

3 ай бұрын

i like it all, from beethoven to phantom menace to rach and shostakovich. i don't give a flying flip what you call it, classic, romantic, baroque, film score. most of it just sounds beautiful in different and interesting ways, made by extremely gifted and hard working people. can't stand all the snobs who first categorize everything and then look down on people who have certain "deemed inferior"- preferences among these made up categories. silly humans...

@RuthvenMurgatroyd

3 ай бұрын

​@@Ploist That's the exact sort of drivel he was talking about with the Stravinsky bit 😂

I'm not against including film scores but Hans Zimmer making it into the list kind of devalues it.

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely not. The score of Gladiator is one of the best things ever written for a film. Its place in the TOP50 is really deserved.

considering its fame (but not to the point where it's overplayed) I was actually suprised that Handel's Messiah didn't place higher

I insist on a part 2! I want to see if the list continues to be as ridiculous as the list in part 1.

Why don't they have a separate 'chart' for film music? It wouldn't be so bad if they showed that they KNOW more than the same pieces that crop up every year. For an outlet called Classic FM they do seem to dilute the 'Classic' part more each year.

Basically if it's been used in a modern film then it makes the list.

Spartacus was used in the Oneidin Line (thanks to which it became one of my earliest true musical loves - along with Tubby the Tuba). This list was clearly compiled to reflect that earlier self. Whose fingers russelled the corn? Good question. If there was a scarecrowe in the field, yup, probably not his. Strange how many of the top-of-the-list film scores are ones that left zero imprint on my memory. No Morricone? From his outstanding symphonies and concertos (and preludes & fugues), the Jazz Suite is one of Shostakovich's feebler offerings. It's disappointingly staid, jazz-less and uninteresting. I would love to have heard him accompanying silent films to really capture his spontaneity, stride technique etc.

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Like all Shostakovich, it's got something! The melodies/harmonies are strong and the orchestration gives it a unique quality.

Ah, the great Hollywood pastiche top 50...

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

Pastiche of what? If the Lord of the Rings and Gladiator were ispired to already existing classical pieces, I want to know their titles!

I absolutely insist you release part 2. Now.

Even for most of the classical music on this list, I could name a film for you.

Some piece I expected some not, like I expected Mozart, And Vivaldi but not Vaugh Williams

Why no Women composers? Prokovieff influenced John Willuams "Star lWsrs" that has matchbox enlarged Space ships crashing into each other Shoshtakovich era had "purges" Soviet styles: of social.. in Music Jamming of Capitalist western music on Radio Morricone.. Rota should be on the list!

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

The absence of some amazing women composers (and also quite a few amazing male composers) is bizarre.

@karenbryan132

3 ай бұрын

EVERYBODY has influenced John Williams! Holst, especially. And it's great. If you. can, find Dmitri Tiomkin's Oscar speech, wherein he thanks all the classical composers he gleefully stole from.

I like how you still respect film scores and their composers, unlike in some of the comments. Of course one can’t put them on the same level with the all time greats as this list does, but why must people be so spiteful and negative? We definitely need part 2!

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

3 ай бұрын

I don't agree. Many film scores deserve to be placed in lists of "best music ever composed". I see Gladiator and Lord of the Rings in the list. Two examples of film scores that I consider to be masterpieces like Mozart's pieces.

To include film score, with it's ulterior requirements and subservience, indicts the whole list.

Regarding the similarity between POTC and Gladiator, I do have some information as to why it’s similar, as well as my own personal theory. So, what happened when they were making POTC is that they wanted Alan Silvestri to score it, but it wasn’t working out, so they asked Zimmer. However, Zimmer had other projects, and couldn’t commit, so apparently he wrote that main theme, and entrusted the rest of the film, plus orchestration to one of his protégés, Klaus Badelt. Badelt also worked on Gladiator, along with Lorne Balfe. And this is where my theory comes in (Don’t take it too seriously at all, as it is purely conjecture) Zimmer does seem to delegate work quite often, and I’m pretty sure he’s credited for films which he wrote little or even nothing of. I can’t say this for certain, but listening to them, it doesn’t sound like his style. I think what happens is that he maybe offers some advice on the music, and helps lesser known composers get opportunities through his production company Remote Control productions. So the composers may not get full credit, but they get the opportunity. Anyway, my belief, after watching a few of these films he’s scored is that Badelt wrote both of those scenes, and that’s why they’re similar. By the way, love the channel. Just discovered it recently, and am enjoying it so far!!

@themusicprofessor

25 күн бұрын

You're definitely right about Zimmer and delegation.

Hans Zimmer develops the Gladiator score into a more extreme version in the score for Dune - which in context is fantastic

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Our next video is on this very topic!

@albiepalbie5040

3 ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessorFantastic It’s got amazing noises in it

One cannot help but think that had BBC Radio 3 or Radio France run such a popularity poll, the results might be somewhat different. This is, after all, merely a reflection of the tastes of Classic FM listeners and for whom these pieces resonate well. Anyway, more please. I insist!

Marvelous scene in the phantom menace? Really? You're not getting any pizza rolls. 😂😂😂

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Actually, that particular scene is rather impressive (although the film in general is a curate's egg).

I think Einaudi just took some orchestration classes with Berio, but I could be wrong…

You should do a video talking about the difference between classical music and film music. Film music has its great moments, but the quality is below classical music due to its structure and purposes. Like all great art, classical music wants to be appreciated in its development, structure and details, not just for the smoothness of a melody you can whistle and film music is only there for the mood of a film scene. Film music does use classical principles, but "behind", there is much less substance. There is a reason why one cannot put classical music and film music in the same concert (although some might do that).

@themusicprofessor

18 күн бұрын

Some older film music (Korngold for example) or Bernard Herrmann, Franz Waxman, Miklos Rosza etc. they were really superb composers, and I think there is a clear 'classical music' component with those guys. John Williams is also a composer of concert music and it would be difficult to say that he isn't worthy of comparison with other living classical composers.

@peterwimmer1259

11 күн бұрын

@@themusicprofessor absolutely! Rozsa has a concerto for orchestra and a viola concerto (etc.), both oriented at Bartok, Williams has a violin concerto (etc.) and I love a lot of Korngold's orchestral works, chamber music and operas. The film scores are great (I do love many of them) but hardly belong into the same concerts. Also mention the great film music by Danny Elfman! But nevertheless, would you mix a gastronomically composed meal with simpler cuisines? Simpler meals are lovely, but each at its times.

@peterwimmer1259

11 күн бұрын

@@themusicprofessor Btw, I am charmed by your habit to seriously and always politely replying to every reader's comment, whatever the latter's contents may be. I find that a quite rare quality in today's social media, it makes it a pleasure to follow your videos and discussions. A big thank you for that!

More!

Canon probably so interesting because of wedding music?

Rachmaninoff is insanely loved by people. I constantly hear lovers of classical music or young pianists name him as their favourite composer. James Rhodes even got a tattoo of his name on his arm. I do prefer other great composers but Rachmaninoff is great as well.

Ashoken Farewell was used as the theme for the Ken Burns documentary “The Civil War”. It’s a wonderfully evocative bluegrass tune that sounds like a 100 year old folk song, a bit like Mark Knopfler’s “Local Hero” theme. Not sure why it’s on a “classical” list though. Bring on part 2! (And big 👍 for mentioning Berio!)

Museum? I think that was just tongue in cheek mockery. A nuclear lab would be cool though.

Surely, among many others appearing with wearying frequency in the list, none of John Williams' Ennio Morricone's nor John Barry's film scores can be described as 'classical music' by any stretch? Every time I switch to Classic FM, the theme from 'Dances with Wolves', Gabriel's Oboe, or a piece from the Star Wars series never seem far away (neither do 'Spiegel im Spiegel nor Pachelbel's Canon in D major, btw). For obvious reasons, Classic FM is a no-go area for me every Easter weekend, when the entire 'Hall of Fame' has taken residence for the last 28 years!

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Insofar as pieces like Gabriel's Oboe seem to be high up on a list that excludes Beethoven's Late quartets or Bach's St. Matthew Passion or composers like Bartok altogether, it's certainly weird and mystifying, but I guess all the list demonstrates is that a certain rather odd bunch of pieces are enduringly popular among the demographic who listen to the station. Personally, i take quite a broad view. I remember Ligeti used to say that he wasn't so much interested in genre as in whether the music was good or bad, and I tend to agree. There's plenty to admire in the composers you mention above, even though a list that elevates their music above other more interesting music is a problematic one!

@williamevans9426

3 ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor All to their own tastes, I suppose!

@davecook8378

3 ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor I bet you could sneak in individual movements of the Beethoven quartets or some choruses from the St. Matthew Passion. I gather that this audience likes a good tune and for things to move on after a few minutes.

Consider yourself insisted.

you know, M. Strakosch 'Yankee doodle concert variations' Is really hard on piano, If you play to this piece in 5:12 I mean, It's more harder than la campanella! Sorry Lisit.

To be fair, Classic FM isn't for people who appreciate good music, but for those who like a cuddle - an undemanding experience of familiar favourites. Radio 3 is there and still pretty good, despite concessions to chatty populism. I suppose I'm a bit of a snob, but I can't stand adverts, jingles, phone-ins and inane chatter. And the very idea of a "hall of fame" seems ludicrous.

You can tell Americans made that list if Ashokan Farewell is even on it, let alone that high. Its basically a short instrumental with violin playing the melody from the early 80s. It acheived fame here in the states during the 90s when it was used as the theme for Ken Burns documentary about the American Civil War. The graphic next to the song in the list showed both the Union and Confederate flags.

@andresklavierraum

3 ай бұрын

I think it's actually based on votes from the listeners of classic FM (so UK based)

Nothing from the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britian?

@karenbryan132

3 ай бұрын

How about the Osipov Balalaika Orchestra? It was a thing!

You mention Pachelbel Canon during this talk, for a very differnt take on this piece of music take a listen to this version. It's described as Canon in D - Hungarian Dance Style (Pachelbel meets Brahms) kzread.info/dash/bejne/dHqkzMScm6uTmLw.html

This list is fucking grim

Not Russell Crow's fingers but Theresa May's

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Naughty fingers!

I agree that Messiah is a mid tier Handel oratorio. My favorites are Alexander’s Feast, Israel in Egypt and Saul. 4:29 that is wheat not corn

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Yes. 'l'Allegro, Il Penseroso e Il Moderato' is one of the best. In the UK “corn” can mean either wheat or all traditional cereal crops (wheat, barley, oats, etc).

@johnmillholland6550

3 ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor well I’ll be damned, yet another funny difference with British and American English. Which oratorios have you seen w the Monteverdi Choir?

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

'l'Allegro, Il Penseroso e Il Moderato', 'Israel in Egypt' and 'Semele' (which I should have mentioned above - an amazing piece). I also saw Acis and Galataea with John Butt's ensemble quite recently. All marvellous pieces.

Where is the dog? I was expecting to see the dog. I want my money back 😑

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

He'll be back

Many of the composers mentioned are second rate. Including such grossly exaggreated ones as Mozart, Tschaikowsky, Grieg, Elgar, Sibelius, Rachmaninow etc. The greatest and most important Works in music history are: Bach: B minor Mass Beethoven: 3.Symphony Eroica Liszt: B minor Sonata Wagner: Tristan und Isolde Brahms: 4.Symphony Debussy: Prelude a‘lapres midi d‘un faune Strauss: Elektra Mahler: 9.Symphony Schönberg: Chamber Symphony Strawinsky: The Rite of the Spring That‘s the truth!!!!!!!!! :

@themusicprofessor

14 күн бұрын

I love your list but I can also think of 10 equally marvellous pieces!

Rachmaninoff was a genius 👍🏻

Anyone else think that movie scores and the likes of Einaudi should NOT be included in crap like these lists? Let's be honest - people haven't a clue what's good or not.

@Sixsmite

3 ай бұрын

What is bad on this list?

Well it is all subjective isn't it? I detest most Debussy! My list would be largely Bach, Mozart and Haydn plus a lot of piano concertos and sacred choral music, with a few other one-offs interspersed. And if someone, let alone a lot of people, likes a work, then the composer has surely won. But I'm afraid you and I fell out the moment you rated Berio above Einaudi, Professor. The grotesque above the lovely, even if somewhat simple at times, can never work. As Mozart said: "Ich möchte alles haben, was gut, ächt und schön ist" - and schön is hardly a word one could use with Berio, in my view! But at least you didn't mention S****hausen...

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

Definitions of beauty are notoriously subjective. Even Mozart's music was thought grotesque by some of his contemporaries!

Moonlight Sonata only at 44 is pure BS!

I despise lists. This is better than that or this is a masterpiece over this. Classic FM is a commercial radio station designed to do what it's mean't to do. Provide music to the masses. All of the film composers pay lip service to the classical composers, and even some of the classical composers pay lip service to other classical composers like Beethoven, Bach and Mozart, Haydn. The real masters were these four composers. Brahms, Schubert, Wagner and even Mahler all took nods from the master Beethoven. The world of music today encompasses newer works that are inspired by past masters. John Williams has Aaron Copland and Holst to thank for Star Wars and Dvorak for Jaws. Seeing that all film composers are trained by people with the knowledge of what the classical masters achived.

I insist

@themusicprofessor

Ай бұрын

Already done!

@haroldsdodge

Ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor Thanks, yes, I saw Part 2. Like most people on the internet I'm slow on the uptake and need everything spoon-fed to me so I didn't initially realise it was Part 2 because it didn't say "Part 2" and have a little red arrow pointing to it! (I thought it was just about #1 on Classic FM's list) but I got there in the end. PS I'm with you on The Lark Ascending - not necessarily Vaughn Williams' greatest work; my vote would go to the first Norfolk Rhapsody. Not sure why that's not more popular; it's a stunner. It builds to the most wonderful crescendo. But I digress. Keep up the great work!

Not a source to be taken seriously. They made a list of gay composers and everyone was gay :D chopin, schubert, handel, lully, corelli...

@karenbryan132

3 ай бұрын

Nonsense, most of it. Tchaikovsky, Barber, Copland--yes, we know for sure. Further back, we don't know, and never will, barring the unearthing of some dusty document nobody's known about before.

Don't blame Rachmaninoff for Eric Carmen.

@themusicprofessor

6 күн бұрын

I don't!

Classic FM is a joke. I stopped listening to the commercial station back in the mid 00s. The music selected by listeners is often heard in films, including classical music. The rest of the composition by the composer is best forgotten. It does no service to what classical music is all about. That Jazz Suite by Shostakovich was used in Eyes Wide Shut. It's been in the Hall of Fame for decades since the film was released in 1999, and its inclusion . I rest my case.

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

You're preaching to the converted!

@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984

3 ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor That's good then. The choir must sing louder to evoke change. But do Classic FM REALLY want to change? That is the question.....

I hate these lists, if only becuase they suggest that one piece of music is better than another. Also no top 50 Bach? They are all good in their own way - maybe the Hall of Fame should be refined by referring to what is popular with the audience at any moment in time. Sadly I don't listen to the radio for Classical music anymore - maybe I am a snob but hopefully not closed minded. Am happy to run with the odd surprise that Spotify mght have for me from time to time.

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

BBC Radio 3 can be worth turning on occasionally

@bigfan2710

3 ай бұрын

@@themusicprofessor I quite like Music Matters 🙂 Seriously, I love this channel. Keep up the great work!

What an incredibly vulgar and stupid idea such a list is. It's why I NEVER listen to music on FM radio, anymore. Back in the 1970s and 80s the approximately four different classical music U.S. "public radio" stations I could tune in did some interesting programming, none of them do that anymore due to this kind of thinking. I absolutely hate what has become of most of the "classical music" business.

@themusicprofessor

22 күн бұрын

I still have a soft spot for BBC Radio 3 although I listen to BBC Radio 4 more often!

Absolute bullshit from the classicFM. Jurassic park over Rach 3 is just nonsense. Objectively it makes absolute no sense. These deaf people gotta listen to the second movement and the finale of the this concerto, maybe it will enlighten them. Absolute shame

Classic fm just recycle the same pieces over and over again,! I listen to Scala radio now, as tired of hearing the same ones. How many times must you endure the Ruddy Grieg piano concerto for goodness sake? Play some more different masterpieces out there classic fm!

@themusicprofessor

3 ай бұрын

You're right. I don't listen to the station very often but there there seems a worrying lack of he lack of curiosity, even interest really...in music. At least BBC Radio 3, for all its faults, has always felt like a station that has some interest in the subject!

@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984

3 ай бұрын

​@themusicprofessor The BBC is no different now. Local radio stations play the same pop music over and over again each month. I went to Wiltshire just recently, and the BBC Radio Station played vertually the same pop music as BBC Radio Cornwall. We are regressing backwards with everything these days. Progression is sadly lacking.

Film scoring music? Ha ha, ludicrous. GTFO.

Same old regurgitated pieces every day and night. Shallow and manipulating the listeners with safe bets to bow to the non highbrow classical fans.

Gosh why do you spend so much time on the lord of the ring, that is the lowest grade of movie soundtrack. Annoying to listen.