That sound is an undeniable memory! So is the prop wacking that guy on the finger LOL 😂 !

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

I was a coward that way, I used a small electric starter that got them running in a flash. From the first .010 to. 020s .049 .074 and .09. I used it. Never bothered with the spring starters, I removed them, they got in the way. When I didn't use a starter I usually wound up in bandages. And I've donated to the Cox bloodbank many times.

I think it great that these older hobbyist can still enjoy what they've been doing for years.

Nothing more nostalgic than the scream of an 0.049 Cox engine!

@rogertycholiz2218

2 жыл бұрын

Matt- They are called [FLF] fast little fellas or fast little fxxxxxs.

@gsxrsquid

2 жыл бұрын

indeed. the sound and the smell.....

@Cupra317hp

2 жыл бұрын

So True. I love them

Man, I remember that sound from when I was a kid

I remember trying to start a.049 attached to a pt-19, if memory serves me, on winter's day in New England, The motor kicked back on me and cut my knuckle to the bone. I still have the scar from that mishap 50-55 yrs ago. Nothing like nitro methene on flesh -+ 32F weather!

Very good!

35 years ago, my first airplane was a control line with a Cox 0.049. But with spring start (luxury model, ha). Then moved to a Gentle Lady with the same Cox strapped with elastic bands to the wing. First 20 or so flights lasted no more than a few seconds and each was followed by weeks of repairs. Many years, broken planes, bruised fingers and a few nasty cuts later, I mostly fly electric and a "boring" electronic ignition IC 4 stroke engine (does not stall, spit oil or smoke). But I do miss those Cox engines. Anyone over 40 flying today probably hit his oil-covered fingers with these tiny propellers more than once.

@traviscozza7177

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! I'm 45 and started my rc flying doing these string line planes and also had self flying helicopters. So much fun, but the dreaded propeller to finger I'll never forget! Good times!!

Wicked speed out of a classic / plane and engine... Impressive

Nobody, but nobody could crash a Cox airplane with a.049 baby bee engine better than I could. I went through way to many of them. Especially the P51's. Lord, that's 50 years ago!!

@EleanorPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

You're a true hero, sir! 😁

@cardinaldriver

2 жыл бұрын

I believe three that I stuffed were those ( Testors? ) one off plastic planes with the V tail. I almost didn't get into aviation at all!! Lol!!! These days I fly conventional and thermal...just fine!

Yes, Old School beginning, starting point for all Aeromodelling enthusiasts..

That brings back memories.

I have done this when I was a kid, fun!

I’m 58 and I still have my .049 in my desk . Ive had it since new from the early 70’s

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Best thing would be to build a model for it. There are many designs of many types of model and a lot of people to help.

@alt3523

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterg2yt let’s put it this way - my uncle owned a hobby shop - I always had a plane and a car when I was young - now I have other things that keep my attention . Still brings back a smile when I was a kid - the engine is a cox gold series - engine and tank .

As I remember - this was a perfect way to remove nails from fingers :-)

This video was very interesting, I would like to see more.

I had one of these when I was a little boy! Fun memories!:)

That .049 is very nice especially when they have a spring starter 🔵🔵🔵👍👍👍😀😀😀🔵🔵🔵

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

I think that the reason for not using a starter spring was because this was a (successful) attempt at a new UK speed record in this class and the spring would add a little more weight and make a little more aerodynamic drag… anyhow, as you see, Salvi got it started fine! Thanks for the comment. 🇺🇦

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

I've seen little electric starters sized for the .049 and the one I have struggles with the .074 and won't turn over the .09. Cox made a limited number of of .09s and even a .15. The .09 was the loudest engine I have ever heard and revved to scary rpms. I put a carburetor and muffler on it to tame it. It ripped the firewall off of many of my airplanes. Truly a beast.

Awesome....the plane and flying

@peterg2yt

6 ай бұрын

“Awesome”… maybe a bit over the top… but, yes, Salvi still has to be beaten in this class. Kiitos 😏

Brilliant. I've had many Cox.49s🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😀😀😀😀

Learned to fly like this back in the 50's. Still remember the sound, hand crank and smell of fuel. Part of a training class took place inside the YMCA on a basket ball court. Great fun and didn't cost you a fortune. Plastic kits came along later with a spring loaded starter on prop and held together with rubber bands. If ya crashed just needed some rubber bands and your back flying I had the PT-19.

@ChrisGurin

2 жыл бұрын

There was a “training class”?

@c123bthunderpig

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, technology was pretty new and to help promote the fly by wire, hobby shops schedule training classes and in case of bad weather had the YMCA as backup.Those 049s really are noisy inside, but flew great.with no wind. Good pilots could do loops, but flying straight and level easier. Tons of fun.

@pedrogodoycruz

2 жыл бұрын

Training? What? Where I grew up your level of training was easily observed by the number of small cuts in your fingers. Seriously, there was no RC community where I lived. Training would have been great and would had saved me many many hours of repairs.

@alphaomega5721

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. The blue, red and yellow PT19

@c123bthunderpig

2 жыл бұрын

Roger that, it was good size, and the wings were held on by rubber bands. That was really some innovative engineering, saved me many times and I carried a pocket full of rubber bands :-) Another thing that helped me was we had curved curbs instead of standard. I could us that as a launch ramp - like the British Aircraft Carriers today and get airborne more quickly. Man I think I'm talking myself into getting back to flying again ...

good speed👌

this is awesome, old school rc

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely not 'RC'!

Great plane the speed for the size was amazing

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

British record for the class

Very speed!!!

Cool plane 👌

Nice video

I still have a couple of those .049 engines in my airplane gear. They were great to start with. I know what you mean by the old good smell of burning Nitro fuel! Lovely smell! Then I saw some one at a club doing RC and there was no going back for me! Haven't been active for awhile but I Love ❤️ the sport Hobby of building Flying and rebuild after a crash! May still get back into it again 😃. Happy Flying!

Back in the 70's my C/L models were powered by Davis Charlton diesels (my first was the Merlin 0.75cc) . Cheap and no battery needed.

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Mine were powered by Isle of Man DC diesels too (in the 60’s), but they were nowhere near as fast as this!

Memories… Light the corners of my mind Misty watercolor memories….

Nice fun👍

Just got mine running :)

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Good! Might be worth your while contacting SAM35 for assistance in flying it if you are in UK

I had one of those.... later a Webra...

Audience, I remember growing up, when my parents bought me a gas plane from Sears & Roebuck. I used a D battery, and RC fuel to start it. That finger will get nipped if you don't retract it fast. It was controlled by the same string for up and down. The fuel had to run out to stop it, and by the time I was dizzy. It was allot of fun at 9 years old. The next year after that my mother bought me my first RC electric sports car. It was really fast too. I was the ONLY kid in my neighborhood with all these crazy toys. I now own two drones, and a gas RCMAX 80cc. Being a kid never dies, because it's FOREVER memories🤜🏼🤛🏼🙌🏼.

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

A large part of why I fly these is the nostalgia. Glad you seem to have enjoyed it.

Uコンだ！懐かしいなぁ…😀

The good ole days !! 🍺 😋 👍

Werner Hertzog should do a documentary about the guys who build and fly these

Super ! Il est vraiment petit ce modèle, et il a un bruit d'abeille ! bzzz ! bzzz !

Very like

Interesting 🤩

A good one!

brilliant

Awesome! That's one pissed-off lil TeeDee! Bad...ass...

Back in the 70s I had a P-51 am I cut the strings loose and I never saw it again

@colemanbinyon7063

3 жыл бұрын

:D i want to see that as a video!! my great uncle let go let go of one of his and all thats left is an os .32 max

@rudyho3790

2 жыл бұрын

Jus' Nuts🤔

Great

my childhood

Kinda surprising just how fast that little .049 flies, I never had one fly anywhere near that fast when I was a kid.

@peterg2yt

5 жыл бұрын

may be one reason that it was a UK speed record...

@johnglendenning9392

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on the type of Cox engine' a Killer Bee engine 22,000 VS Reg Cox engine 12000. RPM) with high Nitro fuel on a balsa plane can be like greased lightning - Just an FYI.

@wahabfiles6260

4 жыл бұрын

@@peterg2yt is it powered by battery?

@tonywright8294

3 жыл бұрын

Wahab Files yes it uses 40lb 12volt car battery can’t you see it ?

@rudyho3790

2 жыл бұрын

Plane was paper mache, foam..sumthin' light

Been flying RC for ages but, I crashed every Cox and Testors U-control I ever owned before then. Within the first couple revolutions. I even cried my eyes out over one of these because I got so discouraged about flying anything. Still couldn't fly one probably! Its the toughest type of model aircraft flying there is.

dialing in that just slightly rich fuel mixture to get peak sweet spot once in the air.

@peterg2yt

6 ай бұрын

…and ‘dialled in’ so perfectly that it is still the UK class record holder in Vintage Speed!

The engine's "VOICE" cracked at 0:28, so funny!!!!

@Entity_BlackRed777

3 жыл бұрын

Then changed back to normal afterwards.

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Engine is normally started with 'rich' fuel mixture, so its turning over fairly slowly to start with and then is leaned out to get optimum fuel/air setting... quite normal.

Oho, interesting!

Thats insanely fast

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

It is the current UK class record for the category and engine size… just over 80mph, but other classes go up to over 200mph, but on longer lines.

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

I wonder how fast my airplane flew when I knocked the outboard wing off and the engine decided to break the rpm record for as long as it could. My own unreliable designs sometime surprised me. The wreckage is still in storage. Someday...

That's what the little spring is for

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Except this Cox is not fitted with a starter spring.

@matthewspry4217

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterg2yt I feel for your finger ouch 😂

Dang, I wanted to see the landing

Been yrs since i seen a cox plane fly matter of fact it 78 in my grade school playground

Big specialists

Top

I remember……

wow, what propeller do you mount? length and type of cables?

@peterg2yt

6 жыл бұрын

As I mentioned in the writ-up, the cables are 42 foot long wire. The wire is high carbon content 'spring' steel, but not heat treated. Diameter is .010". Propeller 4.5 diameter and 5" pitch.

@dgavio

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information, very kind and I apologize for not having read the length of the cables first. Congratulations again

Could never get these to start

Wow

Pretty cool but I'd get dizzy and fall down and crash the plane. Lol

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

Focusing on the airplane doesn't allow you to get as dizzy as you would think. The staggering comes after you stop spinning. Your brain keeps spinning and sometimes gravity says "uh uh". Then all spinning stops.

I have three of these since I was a kid cannot find a battery to start them with any suggestions

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

I assume that you are in the US… try brodak.com/

@rudyho3790

2 жыл бұрын

Double AA batteries in a cylindrical igniter...Brodak, Sonic, Tower hobbies, Horizon...check 'em all lad!! 🇺🇲🇬🇧😎

👍👍👍

You were not a true Cox fan unless your index finger was completely scarred from the propeller impacts trying to start the engine. Sad to know in this day an age you can’t make those engines because the lawsuits for personal injury would come as soon as the first one is sold to a customer.

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

There are actually quite a few current manufacturers of model I/c engines. Modern racing engines make a huge amount more power than vintage engines like this…

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

That's why I saved mine.

Well? How fast was it? Clock and tell!

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

85.4 mph

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

Zowie! That's fast for an .049. High pitch props do that. And high rpms.

Eats high nitro fuel !

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

I remember Mr Angeloni telling me that it was 30%, so not particularly high

Yes i like u plane toys

Yeah but where do you get the special fuel for those old Cox engines. Castor oil based I believe.

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Very easy… buy the ingredients and mix it yourself.

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

10 ай бұрын

Mix it yourself like the big boys do.

😱😱😱

How many fingers is he missing?

I had a Cox Supersport when I was a kid. it was purple. Looked badass. Too bad i sucked as a pilot and couldn't fly it worth two shits. Crashed every time.

Like

That finger looked like it was stinging at first, but then the rotations...I would be dizzy and out of control, or just numb or something. Hell, it's a new year, perhaps I should spend hundreds on a new persuit

😲😲

Sounds more like .010, .020

@peterg2yt

3 жыл бұрын

Ervin Thompson a lot of nitro in the fuel making it rev hard. I know it’s an 049.

@EleanorPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I think it's the tiny prop making it sound extra-angry. 🐝

I wonder how fast that thing is going?

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

It actually says in the description. 85.4 mph

@Ray_Piste

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterg2yt thanks mate .Thats quick

Ooooo 👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪

Balle bene e il modello dove si trova?

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Strana affermazione!

Not so much the plane but how old is the chap and how the hell can he run so fast

@rudyho3790

2 жыл бұрын

Much saner to fast walk...running??? Must be fuel retentive...😎

Why is the camera person watching the man doing circles in the middle? Let's see the plane, even if it is a blur.

@peterg2yt

3 жыл бұрын

because it would just be a blur and there is no point in it!

I had a one that you charged with a big battery, (whatever the big square battery is, I can’t remember the size), anyway I got it from k-mart, it was a pretty good size place, it was a fighting tiger, I never got it off the ground, never had enough power, I’m sure I was doing something wrong.

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

If you bought it from K-Mart as a model it was moulded (molded if you are in USA) from plastic and would have been WAY heavier than this model. Also your fuel wouldn't have been as 'hot' as Salvi was using, also your propeller would not have been as efficient as this one (which is a standard APC from USA).

03:00 AM inset:

😇

Great rc plane

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha… it is definitely NOT “rc”!

😃

now i had a cheap plane like $80 batterys died mid flight after 10 minutes could i mount one of these or even my cox.10 even with no throttle i think it would be fun fly till runs empty land and go again or quit would it work or at that speed would it crash my controlls weigh about the same as the motor

@peterg2yt

6 жыл бұрын

May be that your electric motor is more powerful than a Cox .010. Why not give it a try!? There is not usually a throttle on a C/L model aeroplane. Just fly til the fuel runs out.

@justiceforsethrichwwg1wga160

5 жыл бұрын

peterg2yt Aren’t there some that have throttle control? C/L that is. 🙏🏻

@peterg2yt

5 жыл бұрын

@@justiceforsethrichwwg1wga160 Yes, but this is a speed model... why would you want to throttle it!?

Я: сплю Комар который залетел мне в окно:

Stupendo, ma non vi gira la testa dopo un po?

@peterg2yt

5 жыл бұрын

Si potrebbe pensare così, ma dopo un paio di volte di volo uno si abitua ad esso e non è un problema.

Amca konyalı herhalde 🙃

Not old scooool rc is it?

@peterg2yt

6 жыл бұрын

It’s certainly not R/C, but glad he enjoyed it anyway.

@glennjackson3253

5 жыл бұрын

Agree Pete I fly giant scale RC and I wouldn't want anything to do with this type of flying,

@peterg2yt

5 жыл бұрын

...and I have no interest (other than admiration for construction skill) in Giant Scale... everybody to their own. Control Line speed for me!

@glennjackson3253

3 жыл бұрын

@Samuel Carrington I say we fly what we like,your flying is to tough for me I admit it.

Так и упасть можно

I used to hate that. At the end of day, the fingers struck by the propeller, the blood, the pain and the giddiness after spinning around and around like a ballerina. God, I hated all that. Imagine a size 25, 40 or even a 60 OS engines with bigger propellers, what it felt like being struck by those props. 😖😫😭

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome to your thoughts and memories. I really enjoy it and fly much faster models with much higher rotational speeds than this. Its all a matter of what you get used to... or WANT to get used to. Electric starters take away all the paina nd blood!

Супер скорость ! С полторашки выжать можно намного больше ! Такая моделька на балконе висит . с дырявой парой была ,с некрутящими подшипниками так летала а сейчас вжарит ..не позорте Cokc .

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Вы должны отремонтировать модель и полетать на ней. Этот тип моделей гораздо более популярен в вашей стране, чем в Великобритании. Правильно, никакого позора для старого Кокса. Это был национальный рекорд скорости Великобритании, установленный итальянским пилотом.

😂😂😂👏👍👌💪

Lier pak muter terus mah

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Saya tidak tahu apa yang anda cuba katakan

?

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

!

Finger chopper!

I've never seen the point of control line and I never will .

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you never tried it.. its the only form of model flight where you feel direct feedback from the model in flight… everyone to their own though…

@EleanorPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Bob! 🙂 It came from a time when the only aeromodelling options were free-flight, this, or nothing. Getting into RC was unbelievably expensive (for both kids and grown-ups) - the equivalent of buying a car today - so people took up control-line as the only affordable way to have direct contact with a model in flight. I tried it for a while, building very large, light, sluggish planes that flew slowly enough to enjoy the manoeuvrability, but I still couldn't cope with the constant turning, so I stuck with free-flight and saved up for my first radio set. Some people stay with control-line because it's the only form of model flying with direct feedback from the controls. There's always the pull, the sensation of speed, and in big models you can even feel the turbulence at the onset of the stall (just like holding the control column in a full-sized aircraft). RC is great; there's no dizziness, but... there's also no 'feel'. Compared to control-line it's like watching a video of someone else flying, rather than doing it yourself. 😁

@bobgibb2781

2 жыл бұрын

@@EleanorPeterson That's a very good explanation . I fly scaled up versions of Keil Kraft rubber models such as the Senator and Contestor with mini RC and electric power . I feel pretty connected when I'm flying figure eights at zero feet or taking them up high and riding the wind for half an hour . I did try control line with a Veron Colt and a DC Wasp but my Father was an aircraft inspector who explained the theory of flight to me at a very young age . The words brick and string still resonate to this day .

What was he showing them how to do - reinvent the wheel?

@peterg2yt

4 жыл бұрын

He was showing a few other people there how to get maximum speed from an old vintage Control Line model... what a strange comment. It WAS a speed competition!

คำเดียว เพื่อ!

@peterg2yt

2 жыл бұрын

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@armyzadid7666

2 жыл бұрын

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